Critical Thinking: Rhetorical Devices 1

[@GregoryBSadler]

I'm not sure how I implied that I see it as a better diet in any real sense of the term -- other than providing a bit more protein and calcium. It was certainly seen as a "better" one by those who shifted to it, until they started seeing side effects. And, it seems to have resulted in bigger kids. But, yes, meat/dairy is not necessarily better (or worse) than a traditional Japanese (or any other veg/fish strong) diet -- really depends on quality of the food, I think

[@siddhantjain6807]

15 mins into it and this is already so interesting ! Everyone should know this stuff to avoid getting manipulated by media

[@midasphrygia2425]

Love the class, for my regiment this summer, I will be re-watching every episode, every morning. Better to prepare yourself than, to be not prepared.

[@GregoryBSadler]

Well, rhetoric and philosophy can work very well together -- they do for Aristotle and for Cicero, who make some major contributions to both fields, and saw the two disciplines as able to contribute to each other.

[@angelahatfield5683]

A sincere compliment is medicine . And it makes that person see something good about themselves when they may not see the beauty of themselves at a critical moment.

[@TheVoiceOfLiberty1]

I stumbled upon this class and I am extremely glad I did so

[@AlexSage]

Lucius Vorenus try also Your Deceptive Mind by Prof. Steven Novella... people won’t be able to lie to you... you’ll identify fraud on time if you add those lenses to your thinking scope... =))

[@GregoryBSadler]

We were using Moore and Parker's "Critical Thinking"

[@jacoboribilik3253]

Milton Friedman once pointed out in a speech delivered at a ceremony that you can always find a saying both extolling and condemning the same thing. I believe this class delves deeper into that interesting aspect of language with multiple examples.

[@briankelly1817]

I watched all the Critical Thinking videos by Dr. Sadler I could find on KZbin. I even bought and perused the book he used to teach with in this video. It helped me to get a lot better at thinking more critically, that is, think smarter. Thanks Dr. Sadler!

[@fadwael3562]

What's the title of this book? tnx in advance

[@isillor529]

+Fadwa El good use of "thx in advance" to try to get him to do something he wasn't going to do before. failed anyways....but good use. ;)

[@fadwael3562]

+jim gordon Unfortunately...

[@briankelly1817]

+Fadwa El It's called "Moore and Parker's Critical Thinking" I can't remember what edition it is. PS, look at the other comments, because I previously wrote the title of the book in the comment section a while ago, which Dr. Sadler graciously had written me. Hope that helps!

[@iiwi758]

+Fada Darksmen Thank you!

[@RyanEllisBoyd]

I write plays and screenplays and love rhetoric and rhetorical devices. This lecture was a pleasure, a privilege and a joy. Dr Sadler, thank you.

[@maryliedtojoseph]

Great lecture! You can see how rhetoric is used everyday not just by friends and family, but also by government and religion.

[@GregoryBSadler]

Well, some of them at least. If you like the videos from this course, I've got Ethics and Intro to Philosophy course videos over on my own KZbin channel -- now being taught at Marist College, after I left FSU

[@GregoryBSadler]

@Areopagitican: simple answer to that one. In classical Greek, "u" is pronounced "oo," so when I'm pronouncing Greek-derived words, I tend to pronounce the "U"s that way

[@RyjinVee]

Ohh dang! Love Dr., Sadler's work - his online lectures have gotten me through 3 years of philosophy! I'm very stoked to find him talking about rhetoric - what is this, a crossover episode?

[@GregoryBSadler]

Well, the logos part of rhetoric is what it also -- from an Aristotelian perspective -- has in common with dialectic, and with logic (broadly conceived). It's not coming solely from rhetoric

[@GregoryBSadler]

Thanks very much! And, since you brought it up, I'm actually planning on developing an online course (with many improvements and additions) in Critical Thinking this coming Fall. If by the Trivium, you mean a foundation in three of the traditional liberal arts -- Grammar (which included Literature), Rhetoric (which included some Psychology) and Dialectic (not just Logic, but Inquiry) -- I'm definitely in favor of that.

[@GregoryBSadler]

Inquiry involves attention to precisely how it is we go about learning, knowing, assessing, etc -- so that takes us way beyond formal, and even most informal logic, which is a tool for inquiry, but not the only one. The history of logic, in fact, is full of attempts to understand the broader category of inquiry A now-classic example of this would be C.S. Pierce's conception of "abduction," which he suggested adding to induction and deduction -- to have a better conception of how we reason

[@truthseeker1871]

Fair deal. So far I have decided that informal reasoning is just another phrase for deception. How to deceive human beings in so many lessons. I have a professor who has taught me so. That's all the whole course came down to in spades. Deception. How to deceive your neighbor. Despicable.

[@chilly111]

@@truthseeker1871 A tool can be used for many uses. Of course it's used to deceive or manipulate. But it's also used in the arts and communication, and for protecting yourself from bad arguments, intentional or not.

[@AlexSage]

Thx. Prof. Sadler! wish you a happy & healthy life!!!!!

[@GregoryBSadler]

The coffee cup looks to be in my hands. Are you asking where it is from? Oshkosh, WI, where my sister was a student

[@GregoryBSadler]

I can get by with French or German, but my languages I mainly use for reading -- so those would include Latin and Classical Greek

[@woodlawn42069]

I think we have a difference in terms. I see rhetoric as making argument based on occasion/situation, audience, and a mix of commonplace knowledge and special knowledge. Also, in my view, language varies in value in degree and type across readings, viewings, or hearings an argument. So to say that language is neutral is approaching language from a very different intellectual position. I'm not sure what isn't based in language of some kind - whether it is a visual or auditory/textual language.

[@pauls7056]

Dr Sadler really knows his stuff; better still, he explains it clearly and in an engaging way. Lucky students. Thanks for posting.

[@Mortonc3]

As the prof pointed out, rhetoric often appeals to emotion instead of reason. This puts rhetoric at odds with philosophy because philosophy is based in reason instead of emotion.

[@manchesterfellow]

Critical thinking involves making arguments for each case - arguments are based in language - rhetoric is a way of using language to tip the favour in one way without adding (or taking away) value to an argument and so it should be studied.

[@GregoryBSadler]

Yes -- Aristotle actually says, in his own work on Rhetoric, that we ought to learn how to use it effectively, since we'll run into it nearly everywhere -- and it's shameful not to be able to defend ourselves!

[@BDZiomek]

Thank you! Hope you get an online class going on critical thinking. That would be awesome.

[@seans4893]

Dr Sadler is awesome.

[@GregoryBSadler]

We were using Moore and Parker's Critical Thinking. Not a particularly good book, and apparently the 9th and 10th editions are in certain respects inferior to previous editions. So far, I have to say, I've never found a Critical Thinking textbook I could really say I was happy with. . . might have to write my own

[@GregoryBSadler]

It was the 9th edition

[@GregoryBSadler]

I'm not sure Socrates persuaded anyone that he was physically handsome. It really depends -- for whether philosophy and rhetoric are compatible or even complementary -- what models one has for the two fields

[@GregoryBSadler]

Well, I think that will have to be something that I produce myself. The place I'm currently teaching doesn't have a CT class.

[@AlexSage]

Good thing they recorded the lectures... I learned all of these from Walter Armstrong @ Duke... but this guy teaches very easy... excellent teacher! Armstrong was easy too... Here I’m just more relaxed...

[@augustusg857]

Thank you for sharing this with us.

[@snooze1025]

watching this in passing while i contemplate how to write a rhetorical essay. very nice lecture

[@GregoryBSadler]

You're very welcome -- if you like this stuff, check out my personal channel, where I've got 25+ videos on various topics, texts, and thinkers in Philosophy

[@Cookiecutter87]

Do the prefixes ("eu" and "dys") also apply to the terms utopia and dystopia? I thought they might be, but I am not sure since it is not spelled "eutopia". I like the videos so far, by the way.

[@SavageCommentaryOriginal]

big lebowski dropping knowledge

[@GregoryBSadler]

Depends on which teacher you chose, I suspect

[@gauravparmarbliss]

can someone share the book name?

[@BDZiomek]

Yea I did mean that Trivium; I am just not sure what the additional inquiry in logic pertains to. By inquiry do you mean extending beyond formal logic and applying logic to material propositions? I was just curious because I recently read a book called "The Trivium" by Sister Miriam Joseph and found her presentation of the Trivium very illuminating. I would be interested in taking an online critical thinking course as well!

[@coreyt.rogers9376]

Books to get: The art of rhetoric by Aristotle, the trivium, De oratore by Cicero, how to win an argument. Public Speaking for success by dale Carnegie, the exceptional presenter, the secret language of influence.

[@bgmiller5]

Isn't innuendo just a form of passive-aggression? Or is that the whole point? I've never been one to be passive aggressive.

[@MrAngryman69]

I could see how rhetoric can be used to persuade a point to someone. I remember hearing of a story where Socrates "persuades" someone to think he is a handsome guy so philosophers have used rhetoric but I guess persuading a point is not always the logical way to explain something. Interesting fact: St. Augustine, an influential philosopher, taught rhetoric.

[@briankelly1817]

I know you said the book you were using was "Moore and Parker's Critical Thinking", but what edition was it? I would really really like to read it and follow along.

[@BDZiomek]

Who needs public speaking courses to fulfill GE courses when you can watch these fine lectures? Thanks for posting these videos Professor! Do you recommend studying the Trivium method to education?

[@mjb14722]

I'm studying rhetoric and stumbled upon your video. It's wonderful as usual. By the way, in the 1950's in the US, there was horse meat in the frozen food section, next to the frozen peas. Where's your coffee cup?

[@woodlawn42069]

What about the inartistic (factual) proof or logos as a rhetorical appeal?

[@alexnil1230]

you should record more classes and upload it, it would help random people as well your students who missed class or want hear them again

[@virnan]

What clear explanations he makes.

[@Kwintessential2]

He has his own channel and is very interesting.

[@reasoniocritthinking]

Thanks (from the second of my channels)

[@limitless1692]

Great lecture I love it Thanks for the upload :)

[@GregoryBSadler]

Well, like you point out, you get this for free. In order to understand why I'm going so slow with these students, in a required Core course, you might look up FSU and see what level the students it takes in are. Since you're clearly a go-getter, I'll leave that research to you. . .

[@MrAngryman69]

Well that story about Socrates persuading someone; I saw it on Empires on PBS. I would consider rhetoric a tool in that it a tool can be misused, used differently, or used in the proper manner. Basically, rhetoric could be compatible but not always and in every situation. What do you think of this?

[@MohammedAB2030]

Thank you very much for uploading. I did really enjoy the class and learned a lot from it.

[@sosscs]

dr saddler, i didn't catch the last example you said, the video ended : (

[@monsterjazzlicks]

I only wanted a quick thumbnail example of RHETORICAL and I ended up watching the entire video! ;-) Good stuff.

[@GregoryBSadler]

Well, my tone was always good in Mandarin -- unfortunately, I've never put in the kind of time to actually make much progress! I'm a bit lazy

[@WMsReligion]

What is the book being used in class?

[@amandamedellin1889]

Using KZbin to study for the Cset. This video is so helpful. I am ready! :)

[@dekitai20]

Thanks for posting that, I enjoyed. One thing though: you seem to imply that the Japanese moving towards a westernized diet is moving towards a "better" diet. More meat and more dairy will indeed increase mass and might cause acne but I certainly doubt it could be qualified as being better nutrition.

[@savvageorge]

I heard that facial recognition is partly genetic and partly developed when you are a baby. This is why it's easier to recognise the faces of people within your own racial group and why other races can look very similar to each-other.

[@JijonmajicoSC2]

There are more places where horse is eaten normally. In Slovenia you can find it in fast foods open 24/7 :) And that's just what I know of!

[@garrettpatten6312]

12 years ago when you could say common sense things like this without being crucified lol love it!

[@Stollkeer]

I love you Sadler

[@lyndonbailey3965]

can I ask what the textbook is?

[@eymendakak]

Thank you for your amazing explanations

[@TheGymfluence]

anyone have a summary, or key points of what was gone over?

[@clairebox3516]

tomorrow is the first day of this course at my college, i hope I din't go wrong in choosing this class

[@GregoryBSadler]

A valuable skill. . . .

[@willboucher9336]

The change to climate change is not a euphemism, it is a clarification of terms based on additional evidence.

[@letsgococo288]

12 years later still no evidence.

[@Topbitcoinexchanges]

What book are you using for this class? I can't seem to figure it out!

[@gguest73]

this Teacher Teaching How to Learn to Teach OneSelf How to Communicate Effectively E X C E L L E N T use of time and effort, Thank you

[@Blunttalker]

Thx for this. Got any new stuff?

[@DeathfireCaps]

Try reading "Thank you for arguing" it is a great book that goes WAYYYY in-depth

[@GregoryBSadler]

A bit. Just a bit

[@GregoryBSadler]

Thanks!

[@mr.jamesdavidrobert2115]

Chalkboard and cardigan, it’s like teaching at the end of the twentieth century.

[@ebermtheburn]

This man is Leonardo Dicaprio in "don't look up". Took me 33 seconds to realize it.

[@Jacois]

Thank you for the video.

[@ChooseAname495]

Hey Professor what's the book used for this class? Thank you

[@ChooseAname495]

Karl Ms Thank you professor, I'm on my way to buy the book "go to hell", who's the author by the way?

[@ChooseAname495]

Karl Ms hmmm let me see.....could it be by.....the illustrious world renowned professor Karl Ms?

[@woodlawn42069]

Maybe. I prefer to think that rhetoric makes critical thinking possible, or at the very least critical thinking is a function of rhetoric.

[@marrissajones5142]

my AP teacher calls it ree-tohr-ick is that incorrect?

[@reasoniocritthinking]

+Marrissa Jones If he or she has an accent, I suppose it's all right for him or her

[@GregoryBSadler]

I see. . . so, by that reasoning, I (and all my peers) can't do critical thinking, eh, since I teach it?

[@MrAngryman69]

Ah I see. Persuasive language goes against philosophy in that you don't give an explanation of the subject, you're just arguing for your case with the positive language for the subject even though you're making a positive case for a negative subject.

[@sultanbaquteba1171]

heeeeeeey guys im Sultan, everybody should listen carefully. Heather's class.

[@GregoryBSadler]

The Big Lebowski, with glasses, and sober at 8:00 in the morning

[@MilknCheeseBunnie]

It starts slow but turned out pretty informative. Thanks for the lecture!

[@ChrisGarrison72]

This video helped me a lot.

[@reasoniocritthinking]

Glad to read it. You might check out my channels. My main channel has 600+ philosophy videos. I've also recently started the new channel I'm writing this post from

[@MrYahya0101]

Specifically, from Glen Beck.

[@vince2nd]

Actually feel like i can write an essay now. My teacher is so useless, doesnt even use a book, just wings it each class and gets sidetracked

[@gguest73]

worthy of Study and the Electricity to run this computer

[@jackeroo75]

Euphemism: County Correctional Facility - Jail

[@BuddhatheBlackDog]

rhetoric certainly can derail critical thinking---that's the point.

[@KalebPace-xk3dk]

I appreciate this video, so I feel bad but I can only see him as a tube of Dijon mustard.

[@joshsteely2181]

Well, this is neat. Thanks!

[@MilknCheeseBunnie]

The Pace of conveying useful information is too slow. I have to keep skipping and fast forwarding to get to the point! It's a good thing I don't have to pay for tuition for this class.

[@SK-le1gm]

Dysphemisms !!?! Crazy man 👍🏾

[@MrAngryman69]

Philosophy and rhetoric and at odds? I thought rhetoric is a tool that philosophy can use to promote ideas in a logical way.

[@MrAngryman69]

I laughed when someone asked if its on the menu in France.

[@anonymousQ45]

makes sense

[@1annluna]

Thank you this stuff is so confusing.