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Catching up on superchats from Open Bar 102.

[@snekks7497]

Remember the 2D clone wars? That's when they made Grievous intimidating.

[@jimberjamber8540]

I still remember being 10 and watching Revenge of the Sith for the first time and thinking "Wow, why is Grevious such a bitch now?" George really screwed that pooch.

[@brotherkellymatthewbarnes8882]

The Bounty Hunter Durge was my favorite antagonist.

[@Alex_Penjamin]

RIP Jedi Shaggy 😢

[@master-dukecuthbert5061]

😔 gervious got done dirty

[@wintergreen2.073]

No kidding. Actually every Star Wars character from the prequels were 100x more badass

[@dreamerliteraryproductions9423]

MOG???? I'm picturing John Candy as "Barf" in Spaceballs. "I'm half-man and half dog...I'm my own best friend." 😆

[@Cheka__]

"Barf, puke, whatever".

[@GermanNightmare1976]

I appreciate Last Orders starting with the old Intro. It's still great and should stay!

[@WayStedYou]

19:14 Ryan was fixing their mistakes off the cuff almost every time, I think I would trust a Mauler+Ryan stars wars more than SWT

[@master-dukecuthbert5061]

Why not all three? Let Mauler and Ryan write while theory does the fights and helps with character dev

[@WillFredward7167]

“His strength in the Force is very powerful.” -The A.I. used to write the Acolyte

[@FeatherRanching]

A problem I've noticed with modern filmmaking is object permanence, including meta-objects like plot points, travel times, and character motivations. If it isn't currently on screen, it doesn't matter. "Luke blew up the death star" is the only truth they recognize, because it's all that's on screen in that moment. Even if they recall precursory events, they can't connect them in a chain of causality. They literally can't connect Han helping mere seconds earlier, so more distant contributing actions are totally lost on them. If Vader had successfully destroyed Luke's X-wing, including a reaction shot of Luke's ship exploding, and the film then cut to Luke in his cockpit firing the winning shot, these people wouldn't even notice. We keep accusing them of "key-jangling", but I think it's an incomplete metaphor. It's also like they're playing peek-a-boo.

[@jdsrcs8061]

Krull and The Sword and the sorcerer were and still are AWESOME!!!!🤘🤘🤘

[@DeanoTubes]

Krull rocks! Hawk the Slayer, The Beastmaster, Ladyhawke and Excalibur!

[@HisNameWasCrazy]

My sudden excitement at the prospect of an EFAP Movies on Krull was quickly dampened by Drinker spoiling one of the films greatest (and saddest) payoffs. Still would be worth doing though, Krull is underrated as hell, not least for James Horner's incredible soundtrack.

[@thomad4]

22:46 - I was gonna comment on my issue with "rule of cool"...but Drinker said it really well here 👍

[@seanpgallagher22ify]

Longlegs is in theaters this weekend, Nic Cage and Maika Monroe. Looks to have some Silence of the Lambs and Zodiac vibes.

[@MrsMacLover]

I'm actually excited for that movie

[@seanpgallagher22ify]

@@MrsMacLover excited as well, I’ve been trying to spread the word.

[@ghostnigh008]

Quiet place is not good, id love to watch yall cover it. For me I found it hilarious and couldn't stop laughing

[@WayStedYou]

4:06 Weapon of Choice

[@JFraser360]

Cheers, Gents! 23:43 Vinnie Jones/Deadpool 3 33:34 PATRIOTIC American Films 41:07 Angel's Conner

[@Joe45-91]

That Fatboy Slim video was just one of those things that everyone saw regardless of the musical taste. Was the first thing that came to my mind before Mauler answered

[@DM-kq9ri]

The last shot of Gallipoli is always the movie death that has stuck with me

[@Starwarslegorob]

Drinker , can you upload to Spotify??

[@jammyjamjars6995]

That’s actually a good shout

[@L1VE3V1L]

Thirds! Agree completely. And Apple Podcasts.

[@normanbarud]

Please

[@Darkstar-qb3dh]

If happily sleep to open bar on Spotify

[@McLOUD_Mouthed_Idiot]

@@L1VE3V1L or any podcast form really.

[@salad6]

I can't believe I'm writing this comment when something bad is happening somewhere.

[@MegaSpideyman]

😂

[@WesleyHill-md5cg]

Smylo Ren: "Are you going to use that sword or what?" Occupational Safety and Health Administration: "Shit, you can see that!?... I mean... What?"

[@jesspeaceful]

Guys, it's the horse that gets run through with the flag in The Patriot. Tavington just gets unhorsed with the flag, then stabbed through the neck with the end of a bayonet because he temporarily forgot how to use a sabre and decided to take a javelin-style run up with the world's biggest telegraph of what he was going to do and swing the sword at Mel like it was a damn baseball bat. Huge shame, since he was such a capable villain before that.

[@xitaris5981]

I'm gonna hard disagree with "an X-wing is the theoretically max The Force can lift". Yoda wants Luke, his new apprentice, to lift the X-wing. He uses the X-wing as an object lesson that size is irrelevant to The Force and insinuates that there's no difference between lifting the X-wing and lifting the rocks he's been practicing with. So the main limitation is the mentality of the Force user. Also, we've never seen the limits of what Yoda could lift with the Force. Who's to say the X-wing was his max? Unfortunately, The Force isn't a hard magic system (Brandon Sanderson's definition of hard and soft magic). So there's some fungibility in it's capabilities - particularly from user to user because of their individual ability to remove their preconceptions and to properly understand The Force. And their ability to concentrate.

[@thorsteinnorman7133]

About Force Powers and where to put their limit: 1) When Yoda lifted the X-Wing he didn't really struggle with it. 2) Anakin was supposed to be the strongest ever in the Force, so, given training, he really should be quite a bit stronger than Yoda (and he did Force Choke someone from the other side of the galaxy). Thinking about that I'd say the Prime Anakin we never got would be able to force pull small spaceships (nowhere near star destroyers though) and X-Wings out of the sky, at least when they're not too far away, but I'd say he's an exception, and that most Force Users should only be able to lift 2 X-Wings at the same time, in close proximity, at the most, even at the height of their powers. 3) I always saw Force Powers as something that required great concentration, and therefore was kept to simple actions, especially during combat. It could be usable to have some kind of Force Healing, etc., but that it was very weak, took a long time, and such (no goddamned reviving the dead!). I think there's a value to there being more Force Powers, much of which is undiscovered, giving different culture different powers, but not anything so powerful that it makes it hard to believe that someone with that power can struggle (like using the Force to enhance one's physical prowess/power/speed/reflexes, but only by a little, and requiring constant concentration, meaning that losing concentration causes the character to lose their advantage). 4) Force Users never really used their powers on each other, so there must be some way for Force Users to protect themselves from each others Powers. I think that must be because they all tap into the same power source, and can channel different amounts of the Force, but that doing that does away with their defense. 5) You could make incredibly powerful characters by just having them use the Force in interesting ways, like Force Pulling on walls and ceilings to stick to them, etc. 6) A way to make Lightsabers powerful, but exclusive to Force Users, could be to make Kyber crystals just the power source for light sabers, but making Jedi have to use the Force to contain it in blade form, with a "Force-Field". This could be another explanation to why Jedi and Sith rarely uses Force Powers in combat, and could even be used to vary the looks and functions of Lightsabers by altering them for different purposes (make them smaller and more daggerlike to make them stronger, or sacrificing power to make them longer, etc.). PS) I'm considering rewriting Star Wars in a more concise way, with more clear and enforced rules, in the form of a book series, comic series or animated series. Anyone got an opinion?

[@BetaRayBill32]

That's some great discussion on the "rule of cool".

[@fyrfly8768]

I mean, Grandmaster Luke Skywalker could move planets with the Force in the EU. Is that overpowered? 😂

[@tylergoodman3560]

Who's funnier: Spider-Man Iron Man Deadpool Plastic Man? 🤔🎉

[@MegaSpideyman]

Who do you think?

[@SlipdeGarcondeJour]

Nice to see the old intro scene back :)

[@Varaug231]

27:40 I'm surprised Drinker found Rey killing Palpy so satisfying :P

[@fellowkrieger457]

I think you underestimate the arrival of the Harry Potter tv show. With the proper show runners and Max platform behind it, it's gonna be probably one of the biggest hits of 2025. People from the 2000 are like yeah whatever, there are the movies. But for children today, it's gonna be their harry potter.

[@wraith1117]

Yes, the hilts are much thicker in this acolyte show. almost twice the size from the movies. I and a few were mentioning that since the first week. I guessed a lot of people didn't notice because of the other 90+ things goofy with the show.

[@BT-vj6pk]

In Jason Statham's voice, "A Star Wars fan reaction, is quite a f-ing thing."

[@jeffreyspinner5437]

Paul Simon was _ruined_ by 'princess Leia.' She didn't die in a way she should have been punished, but all those electric shock treatments was a weak substitute for the suffering Paul experienced.

[@samwallaceart288]

I resent that superchat; Lumpy Space Princess is a saint compared to Leslye. LSP befriended a pack of wolves through body language, she's one of the boys.

[@J.Hermansson]

Regarding fav villain. I don't know if Roy Batty counts as a villain, but it's my fav death scene of all time.

[@stanleykubik1778]

Mog, A Star Wars Horror Story : "In space, no one can hear you lisp "

[@toddnolastname4485]

Yoda thought Luke should be able to lift the X-wing himself. So Yoda lifting the X-Wing was no big deal. And this was when he was an old man, presumably only weeks before his death.

[@MorleyRobertson1975]

You guys need to watch The Empire Strikes Back again. Yoda specifically says lifting the X-Wing is no different than lifting a rock. He tells Luke, "It's only different in your mind".

[@xarion69]

yay you used the superior opening!

[@emuman09]

How can that comment mention still wakes the deep and miss out the fact that it's an all scottish cast lol

[@RedDeadSights56]

StarKiller (Vaders Apprentice). Star Wars The Force Unleashed 1 and 2. He's a Boss. He stops and pulls down a star destroyer to the planet. Look him up. It's games and lore that u guys would enjoy😎🤘

[@yolandabraithwaite7730]

Destroying the Death Star was a team effort.

[@jasongoodacre]

Rey joining the superchat ... The power of one, the power of two, the power of maany 😅

[@dirkbreusing1006]

just great

[@jefffan171]

23:11 The best and worst example of superficial "cool" was that ridiculous Vader ending in Rouge One. I think I was the only person to leave the theater groaning and asking WTF was that while everybody else was literally saying, "oh man, that was so cool!!!" It wasn't, it was stupid as it makes no sense as to why Vader is that powerful, and then the next day so weak in his conflict with Obi-Wan. It done, just to be cool.

[@rayneill2220]

I'm your Belfast xelt brother so keep fighting the good fight as you should of been my para brother 🙏

[@rayneill2220]

Thanks for your time as I have complex trauma PTSD and like my troops u have saved my life time after time Scottish brother. I done my degree in Dundee

[@wrylucifer]

47:29 So Superior Iron Man almost.

[@DaveTimperley]

I noticed that Apple has 'retconned' Time Bandits. I feel sorry for all those dwarf actors that don't get a chance at many pivotal parts in productions. They probably saw the announcement of the remake and thought 'brilliant, finally I can get some decent screen time' only to discover that everyone gets a job but them. That said, I think I saw a couple of type cast dwarf actors in bit parts in the bad guys retinue.

[@knottastu]

if you keep trying to one up the powers then you get Dragon Ball Z

[@dextercarrie8131]

You need to do a review and of Gladiator 2 my cool Scottish drunken virtual film critic with Highlander blood.

[@THARG67]

Bring in the troops from the video 'Stormtroopers,but They're Accurate video,every "good guy' is dead at the end.....just like disney star wars..job done

[@Itsberserkintime2024]

Its Moggin' time

[@Oetam8566]

Dog Soldiers with Neil Marshal would be great.

[@PatrickOMulligan]

The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force. Can lift an Xwing and shooting lightning...

[@brotherkellymatthewbarnes8882]

The serial killer in 10 to midnight, is my favorite villain death in a motion picture. Until something better takes its place. 2) The Big guy in the bar scene of The Evil That Men Do. Yes, those are both Charles Bronson films. So what of it?

[@chadreese9501]

Space Ice did the greatest review of all time.

[@1cachorito9]

I think pulling down a star destroyer from space is too much. But lifting up a x wing too weak. If you are going to pull something, let's say a moving LAAT. The character must be focused on that. And it is a weak point.

[@paulware4701]

Drinker, I know you love Krull but THE eighties fantasy movie is Hawk the Slayer with Jack Palance giving the performance of a lifetime. I reviewed it in my fanzine and that issue sold better than any others (even the one where I reviewed Barbarella!)

[@DM-kq9ri]

Hawk the Slayer! The greatest bad movie of all time. Every element that went into the movie was not good but comes together into a fantastic fantasy film

[@Alex_Penjamin]

7:15 spot on.

[@MickyChowMein69]

Best theme tune ever made. Cheers matey

[@brotherkellymatthewbarnes8882]

Spoiler Alert 🚨🚨🚨🚨🚨 There is no 🐻 in The 🐻!

[@Kaykath-yd1ss]

👍👏👌

[@def_not_dan]

You can't spell "starving" without "star".

[@MegaSpideyman]

Delighted to see this up now. Looking forward to hearing the various responses, especially to my superchat!

[@Karl.Jayce-DE]

You are a bot

[@MegaSpideyman]

Thanks for such a wonderfully detailed response to my superchat, lads! I really appreciate it. I couldn't ask for more.

[@emuman09]

Wait so smilo is 35 and weirdo fans out there are shipping him with a 16 year old? Wtf

[@joshearnest6742]

Does anyone think Drinker is aware of how frequently he sucks his teeth directly into the microphone? Not shaming anyone who’s into the ASMR or his attempts to do so but it’s just a tad grating, especially when the rest of the content is excellent! 😅

[@diabolicvulture2480]

Nice intro

[@KevinM491]

leave my name alone. I was happy when my boy Mohg just beat the allegations in Elden Ring but now i gotta deal with this weird jedi.

[@WayStedYou]

30:12 the first one was good, besides showing the creature in basically full light right near the start of the film which was an odd choice, the second wasn't as good.

[@MegaSpideyman]

Why was that bad to do?

[@WayStedYou]

@@MegaSpideyman your imagination filling in the gaps of an unknown threat is usually far better than showing it straight away its fairly commonly used in horror movies

[@strambino1]

Looking forward to Rogue Elements! Just starting Ryan Drake book 5!

[@TylerRobbins-mb5zp]

hi

[@tayloratchison9424]

Ssssoooooooo maulers' discord is full of furries who harrassed and kicked a couple of my friends. I dont think that mauler is who he is pretending to be.

[@Ralathar44]

What show did the panel disagree on? FALLOUT hahahahahaha.

[@grahamjackmacpherson6501]

Beverly hills cop 4 or Beverly hills cop Axel F as they've called it 🤢 is awful. I mean truly nostalgia bait awful. Weak story, poor dialogue, tries to be very funny but isn't, boring new characters, the movie looks bland, too much emphasis on silly comedy tone instead of balancing it with a darker edge like the first two had. Its just a poor pale imitation of the first 2 movies but much worse. They tried to shoehorn into the story the well worn estranged daughter set up, just like die hard 4, and it didn't work. Didnt help that the actress was given a script that asked her to be a whiny poor me type with a constipated look on her face throughout, and Kevin Bacon was way too hammy as the bad guy.

[@waynedurham3621]

Hay Jay get off your butt. Disney is going on strike. Maybe you should look into it. (why ,when ? ) Employee's had to pay for their own work cloths at one time. Had to share underwear at one time. Get off your ass Jay.(park hopping)

[@TheRedGauntlet]

I think Indepedence Day kinda lame movie

[@MegaSpideyman]

Really

[@ScorpionP2C]

Your show has become as tedious as the subject matter it covers. Constant complaining about things most of your audience already ignores. An echo chamber of things repeated ad infinitum. Talk about independent movies and shows that are done well. Critique innovative projects and argue about the merits and failures. Drinker's bar has become the very thing it rails against. A mainstream media repeat of that which we already don't care about. Your not counter culture, your show is a culture vulture.

[@lando9238]

1 min 4 views? Bros fell off

[@winterwolfsden]

lol

[@TylerRobbins-mb5zp]

first

[@HarderRer]

I watched all of Andor and I thought it was low tier. Take out Skarsgard and the imperial from GOT and the show is trash. The opening sequence is ridiculous with a man begging for his life telling the guy with the gun he will arrest him on a lesser charge. The heist is laughable and once again shows the empire as incompetent. While the rebellion squad is made up of people half of which could never pass as an imperial guard/soldier but oh well. Luckily Andor can do everything they need and he also does all the things they didn’t know they would need him to do. The prison arc starts by a criminal choosing to hide on a party planet that is occupied by the empire. They control it so much they are snatching up innocent people and forcing them into slave labor. The entire court room scene felt like a toddler wrote it. Then the idea the prisoners will simply make their escape with little to no resistance at a facility that is creating the pieces to build the Death Star and all just swim to freedom, is once again laughable. Which leads us to the final arc, which once again makes the empire look incompetent and that godawful speech from his mom like she’s braveheart rallying the troops. Basically the best thing about andor is Skarsgard and the imperial commander both of which are terribly under used. Instead we are forced to follow the plank of wood around on his “adventures” where he is never in any danger cuz we know he survives. Give me the Luthen show and I’m in but Andor is simply the best of Disney Star Wars which makes it the best piece of shit in a dumpster full of shit.

[@nathanmckerrow9059]

Start a Star Wars channel already 🤦🏻‍♂️ I just want to get back to real movies & worthy tv shows. I know what not to watch, maulers arseburgers is a bad influence.

[@highlands]

I hated Axel F. The (almost incidental) background plot of drugs smuggled in art is obviously a bad retread of the first movie as is the disappearance of a friend. I thought the casting was questionable, the daughter is pretty much a block of wood and I'm not sure why Joseph Gordon Levitt is there other than everyone else is too old to accompany Eddie Murphy. The worst part for me was the cinematography, everything from choice of shot, camera movement, blocking and scene management were off. Even the lighting and lens filters were badly done. I think the Director's previous experience was in adverts and the director of photography seems to have done small horror films. You can tell. Eddie Murphy I think tries his best but he obviously doesn't have the energy or drive of 30 years ago. Ironically, they do an establishing montage of Beverly Hills but even that seemed to be less characterful than it was in the first films, there's still excess but now it just seems sad.