Composer/Musician Reacts to Nightwish - The Phantom of the Opera (LIVE) (REACTION!!!)

[@Erikman98765432]

Just so you know, this song was not written by Nightwish. It’s a cover of the titular number from the musical “The Phantom of the Opera” composed by Andrew Lloyd Webber.

[@CriticalReactions]

That is some really important information and makes me want to check out an actual Nightwish song from this era.

[@vickypolychronou6215]

@@CriticalReactions oh please do! It was such a wonderful era, it's a shame to ignore it!

[@aenorist2431]

I'd use "rearrangement" more than "cover", because Tuomas did quite the number on that number :P But yea, the basis is the Webber song, and the words are the same.

[@iamnutty8471]

say something more obvious numbnut

[@punkjay4681]

@@iamnutty8471 didn't listen to what was said on the video, or just trolling?

[@connollyc]

He does actually do a fair amount of singing. They have a cover of Pink Floyd's High Hopes that's just him

[@TheDondoran]

Woah. I'm a big fan of Marco's singing, and also of Pink Floyd, and I didn't even know about this. Thanks!

[@randomstuffzofdoom]

As others have said, this song is from the phantom of the opera musical, but Nightwish have put enough of their own flair on it to make it sound like it´s one of their own songs.

[@thegrtone744]

actually after Tarja was gone, Tuomas restructured the band's vocal model to be more mainstream, and away from a classical approach, insisting that Tarja was not subject to duplication

[@dimitriid]

You are correct: Nightwish was initially a band pretty much largely built around Tarja's vocals and her dark, operatic style. However quick trip down history lane: by the time Tarja and Nightwish went their separate ways they had released their "Once" record which was a market switch in style. Yes, Ghost Love Score it's on this record and very much reminiscent of the older style of their songs but this is the record that also had songs like "Dark Chest of Wonders", "Romanticide" or "I Wish I had an Angel" that gave lot more space to Marco's male vocals and was decisively more metal/rock influenced sound. After Nightwish finds a new vocals Tuomas and the band decide to hire Anette Olsen which was basically a rock singer and *just* a rock singer. Don't get me wrong she is an awesome rock singer in her own right but the opera style was basically completely removed for a couple of records. This is a direction they were already moving towards but now dived into headfirst completely. Even the last 2 records with Floor do not feature the older style of portraying the almost entirely operatic vocals behind and Floor is leaning far more heavily into her rock singer style (Even though Floor is technically capable of doing just operatic style if needed be, she is no Tarja but she is still classically trained as part of her background too) So there's a tale of 3 different incarnations of Nightwish as a band so far if you ask me.

[@Idefixu]

The bassist Marko Hietala's vocals are essential part of NW. He is on vocals in Pink Floyd cover 'High Hopes' 2005 live. I love the song. 'Islander', live in Tampere 2015, his own song, is an other example of his vocal skills. One of my definite favorites is '7 days to the wolwes', at Wembley Arena 2015, Marko and Floor on vocals. 'Weak fantasy', Tampere 2015 another one, among others, showing how well their voices blend. And then there's the masterpiece of the keyboardist and mastermind behind NW, Tuomas Holopainen - 90% or so of NW material, (compositions, lyrics, arrangements) is his - 'The Poet and the Pendulum', Wembley 2015. Usually recommended to be saved for later in ones journey into NW music. Should know the story behind it before listening to it. I would recommend a video version with lyrics. One more: 'Shudder before the beautiful', the opener at Wembley, and in Tampere, if my memory serves me right. I believe so. What an opener. Love it!

[@JanneTarhanen]

I would definitely recommend The Poet and the Pendelum. I think that that song is in compsition wise best song in Nightwish cataloque. And since Brian has already reacted to other masterpieces from Dream Theater and Ne Obliviscaris, I don't think that he needs to check other NW songs before doing this.

[@thegrtone744]

Tarja's version of Ghost Love Score is also incredible but more orchestral and elaborate

[@kimberlyh.1090]

And has more emphasis on the chorus.

[@thegrtone744]

@@kimberlyh.1090 ...definitely, which offers a generous helping of her achingly beautiful voice and the blend of instrumental and her vocals making her sound as an extension of the orchestral projection...still astounds me...Floor's version is fine but it doesn't possess that magical quality, for me

[@kimberlyh.1090]

@@thegrtone744 Tarja's version gives me goosebumps every time, it's the one I keep coming back to.

[@thegrtone744]

@@kimberlyh.1090 yah..same here...need my Tarja fix everyday to keep me leveled....and her versatility is just as great as Floor's...

[@Evil_Peter]

@@thegrtone744 Tarja was great but she didn't show anywhere close to the same versatility in Nightwish that Floor does. That's not a knock on her either since the vast majority of singers don't do what Floor does in Nightwish.

[@wolverine669]

Tarja actually went back to opera after her time in Nightwish and then came back with a more "metallic" album. Also their bassist Marco Hietala has his own band Tarot since 1985, in which he sings and plays bass. He also released his first solo album a while ago. So from there, check out his song "Isäni ääni" or the english version "The voice of my father"

[@tuijakarttunen9164]

I pretty much stopped listening to Nightwish after what they did (and how) to Tarja. But I listen every day the Tarja era songs, and I am happy that they found Floor. She is awesome. And for the fans, I am happy that they can continue the journey with Nightwish with an amazing vocalist like Floor is. But I will always be Tarja -fan. Something for everyone.

[@xaraun]

The in both Jansen (Dutch surname) and Tarja (Finnish given name) sound like the letter in English, similar to German or Swedish. In fact, even the International Phonetic Alphabet lists the sound of the English letter as /j/.

[@Sandbagging]

If you're looking for something quite recent, it would be cool to see what you think of the song "Music" from their latest album. Or, if you're up for another epic-length song, I'm sure many people will recommend "The Greatest Show On Earth" - maybe another one of the live recordings. A little older, but still new enough to be written for Floor, and it's really something else.

[@Trevor21230]

The Greatest Show On Earth is definitely, as of yet, Tuomas' Magnum Opus; his Greatest Work. Although to be honest, I think Endlessness gives it a strong run for its money in the composition department; it's a legitimate masterpiece of musical engineering despite being much shorter and lacking the multiple segments. The it illustrates the neverending nature of time as an emotion evoked by a continuous build-up to a crescendo that falls apart even before it beings, only to return seconds later to the same build-up, again without a befitting crescendo until the very last few words of the song was nothing short of masterfully conceived and perfectly executed. It lets you feel a set of emotions rarely available to us short-lived humans.

[@sateentuoksu]

Latest ones you've gotta check: Romanticide, Yours is an empty hope, All the works of nature and Greatest show on earth ❤️

[@thealexdn-k9d]

In terms of more of "operatic" style of vocals in metal, you definitely check out Powerwolf. Their singer, Attila Dorn, is great. I recommend these songs to react: 1) Demons are a girl's best friend; 2) Lupus Dei; 3) Werewolves of Armenia (there are two versions of it, older one from their album Bible of the Beast, and new somewhat rearranged version they released as a single recently); 4) Where the Wild Wolves Have Gone.

[@yotambraunshtein9786]

Also ex libris has great opera like vocals

[@DrizzleWoolf]

I'm pretty sure the 'j' in Tarja is soft too, aha! If you wanna check out the 3rd singer Anette Olzon, I'd advise Amaranth or The Escapist

[@Trevor21230]

Anette was their second singer. Unless you meant third for him to have reacted to?

[@DrizzleWoolf]

@@Trevor21230 yes that's what I meant

[@abcrx32j]

I definitely prefer the older Nightwish. Not just for Tarja, but the style is more symphonic metal. With Floor, just like her main vocal style shows, it has some pop/rock style combined with the previous style, but the symphonic part tuned down significantly.

[@Zoey-K-1]

As far as Nightwish being “a band around operatic singing,” that was true of the Tarja era, as that was her specialty. After she left, Anette was the singer and she was a pop/rock vocalist who struggled when performing the Tarja era songs. Floor, the current singer, is very versatile and can sing pretty much anything. To hear songs written during the Floor era, try “Music,” from their new album, or “Shudder Before the Beautiful” live at Wembley, or “The Greatest Show On Earth” live at Tampere. Marko, the bass player, does a lot of singing with the band. “The Islander” live at Tampere is a good one that he sings lead on, while “Romanticide” live at Wacken is a good example of he and Floor trading vocals. Oh, and “Phantom of the Opera” is not an original song for them. It’s a cover of the title song from the immensely popular musical of the same name.

[@paravarium]

Old NW was always my favorite. Nemo, Kin Slayer..

[@Trevor21230]

Nemo is incredible, especially the music video, and Kinslayer was tied with The End of All Hope for my second-favorite Nightwish Song after The Greatest Show on Earth until *Human :||: Nature* came out. I'm still reformulating my list, even after picking up the album on the day of release. What I /can/ tell you is that Shoemaker, Procession, Endlessness and Ad Astra will feature in pretty high spots.

[@melicriszoe1]

AND wishmaster!

[@melicriszoe1]

Passion AND opera Is muy favorite too!

[@kimberlyh.1090]

Pharoah Sails to Orion, Fantasmic, Passion and the Opera, Ghost Love Score (End of An Era's version is the best and you won't change my mind), Planet Hell, End of All Hope...etc.

[@cypherredux2771]

I mean is Nemo really old school Nightwish though? Pharaoh sails to Orion End of all hope Dead boys poem Beauty of the beast Elvenpath Stargazers Astral romance Hell even

[@yotambraunshtein9786]

Fun fact nightwish is the most successful band from Finland really successful even with people that don't like heavy metal Also this song is a cover why it's less heavy

Damn this performance always makes me ascend to the heavens. Yeah, it's not their song but it might as well be. For older Nightwish: Devil & The Deep Dark Ocean, The Kinslayer, End of All Hope, Dark Chest, Planet Hell... From their latest songs: Music, Shoemaker, The Greatest Show on Earth, Shudder Before... Anette-era: Song of Myself, Last Ride of the Day, The Poet and the Pendulum, Ghost River, 7 Days to the Wolves (totally subjective, it's just my favourites :D) Idk I stay out of singer-wars, I love all their singers and they evolve constantly, in all kinds of directions and it's just all great. Sure they are not the same without Tarja, and I do understand the nostalgia but man. They didn't end when she left, at all!

[@riddhimanmedhi99]

Compositionally the song and the rhythm especially is not the most interesting, but The vocal combination on this one is extraordinary! Amazes me every time! Do check out their new album, compositionally much more mature and complex. The whole second half of the album is a majestic orchestral soundtrack. Try the song Shoemaker. Excellent vocals on that song, a lot of Floor’s vocal expressions are more thoroughly utilized here along with newer compositional elements. Other suggestions would be Pan or Music from the same album.

[@meshuggagah4118]

If there is a comparison to make between Tarja and Floor in Nightwish, it's rather if you prefer pure opera style or all styles of singing. I still have a slight preference for Tarja, also because I discovered NW with her but Floor was perfect with her 1st band After Forever. You should also check the band Therion if you like the mix classic/metal. The band The Gathering was probably the first to have a female singer in metal. There was also Theatre of Tragedy before Nightwish but they were the first to have opera singing.

[@adithyaprasad8586]

I'm pretty sure that Doro was the first one though with Warlock back in the 80's.

[@fioddorsuperconcentrado2492]

@@adithyaprasad8586 Along with Lita Ford, Santa, Girschool, Rock Godess, and after Joan Jett and The Runaways.

[@adithyaprasad8586]

@@fioddorsuperconcentrado2492 Yes

[@meshuggagah4118]

@@adithyaprasad8586 Okay but I considered this hard rock, not metal. Otherwise there is Phantom Blue, 100% women, 1st album in 1989

[@adithyaprasad8586]

@@meshuggagah4118 Doro is pretty much Heavy Metal. She's almost never associated with Rock music as well. Joan Jett, Lita Ford etc is Hard Rock. Not Doro. Love The Gathering though.

[@Benobot99]

For a brand new Nightwish song with Floor's vocals showcased, go for either Shoemaker (has a legendary ending), Procession (very delicate and breathy), or Tribal (grunts, rasp, lots of crazy vocals and a heavy song, the video is great). I assume you flipped this video to avoid copyright.

[@mauricefabry7488]

Good reaction, but please no comparisons between Tarja and Floor! Neither of them deserve this!

[@corneliusantonius3108]

This

[@cypherredux2771]

Why the hell not. Music is art and art should be critiqued

[@bjhellstream]

Tarja was a big reason I liked Nightwish. She's amazing in her own right.

[@josejesuscontrerassalazar9140]

Songs from the new album: "Pan" and "Shoemaker"

[@daveraven1821]

Please react to “Jillian” by Within Temptation from live dvd BlackSymphony you will enjoy it. Greetings from Mexico...🙏🤘🏻

[@thejjzz]

Please don’t ask people to compare the singers. People have done that all these years and everybody are getting sick and tired about it, even the singers themselves :D They btw are good friends.

[@jopes4855]

Iv'e been listening them pretty much since they started. It was really mindblowing, and still is. I can't say which one is better, Tarja or Floor, they both have different sound and style to sing. I love them both. And i do like Anette too, though - Floor has owned most of her songs, but Anette did leave her mark on the band for sure. We would be missing so many good songs if Anette wasn't there. From new album, like on every album, there are no two songs sounding same, and for you as composer i would recommend Shoemaker or Pan. Though, getting somekind of picture about the album you should listen at least 3 songs.

[@Trevor21230]

Endlessness is fascinating from a composition point of view. The choice to illustrate the neverending nature of time as an emotion evoked by a continuous buildup to a climax that ebbs away before it even begins, only to return seconds later to another buildup, again without a befitting crescendo until the very last few words of the song was nothing short of masterfully executed. P.S. The half-whispered interlude in the middle of Shoemaker is one of my favorite moments in all of music. *"And when he shall die..."*

[@chaosultimamage]

definitely check out some other Nightwish w/ Tarja. that's how the band was supposed to sound, from the start - and if you're like me, and heard that first, it's really difficult to really care about anything after she left. Wishmaster, The End of All Hope, and Romanticide are some of my favorite tracks.

[@theone132435]

Been watching your channel more and more lately, great stuff :) I don't know if you've heard much Gojira, but I would like to request a reaction to Where Dragons Dwell live at Hellfest 2013. It will blow your mind!

[@richardjones38]

I believe the Finns pronunce the 'j' in Tarja more like 'iy' in English - 'Tariya'

[@j.lahtinen7525]

the "i" is unnecessary in that - in English you typically pronounce Y like you pronounce J in Finnish. So for an English speaker, pronounce it Tarya. To get it exactly right, roll your "r". Think "¡Ay, caramba! " 😁

[@finmotoman75]

Nice reaction and commenting. Seen this many times, now It's like new performance from this view 😁😉

[@Rafael-qi9bt]

I love Tarja's voice! Thank you very much! ❤ After watch your video I subscribed myself on your channel. I would like to suggest some reactions. From Tarja Turunen's solo career, please, react to "underneath", the studio version (it's one of the most beautiful rock synphonic ballads I've ever heard), and "Supremacy", live version recorded in Milan (it's really amazing). From Nightwith with Tarja, the music video of "Bless the child" is wonderful. It deserves a reaction too. Thank you very much!

[@aenorist2431]

Funny you say the "Nightwish is about operatic singing" .. it actually was, in the Tarja Era of Songwriting. You might want to check out "Yours is an empty hope" for a very different sound, even as it is still clearly nightwish. Particularly the live at wembley version, it has the best mixing.

[@jannashesgbcnemophilafan4317]

Marco, the bassist does vocals. Both Tarja and Floor are so great. And Tarja and Floor are freinds. I prefer Tarja, as she has a magical feel to her. Ghost love score i there, prefer Tarja, as her vocal run over the choir, during chorus, is why i liked Nightwish. Thoumas recorded a choir for GLS, and with Tarja it is more prominent in the chorus. Nightwish are great, withall the singers, Annette also.

[@thegrtone744]

the one and only trend setter for female-fronted symphonic metal bands, the great master soprano Tarja Turunen actually, upon Tarja's departure, the emphasis is far less on the classical sound due to Tuomas's resentment of Tarja....

[@yksvaan1690]

The fill-in was Anette Olson and Nightwish "Amaranth" isn't half bad! Obviously Floor is the greatest singer on Earth. Not her fault Tarja was a certified Finnish Goddess, but there you go. Only so much you can do to follow up.

[@mix6809]

loved the reaction, tnx.

[@j.lahtinen7525]

Personally, I was aware of Nightwish in their eary days, and liked a few songs that popped up on the radio - they dropped off my radar though with Anette, the second singer, and I only stumbled onto them again with Floor - and I seriusly think Floor is the singer that suits their music the best. She is so versitile, plus she is classically trained, able to sing operatically too. If the two songs you've heard is this, and Ghost Love Score, then you haven't heard their heavier stuff. I'd recommend" Song of Myself" from the Waken 2013 show. Link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ooLYZoSgnsl7jck And/or "Romanticide" from the same show: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKvCaIJ5eLafjtU And/or "Yours Is An Empty Hope" from 2015 Live at Wembley: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKqvpIhthphmac0 That song also features Floor doing a proper fry scream in the chorus. If you are interested at their most recent material, then I'd suggest "Shoemaker" kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJvTkHecq6-co8k Floor gets to show off her classical training towards the end there. The song is about Eugene Merle Shoemaker, an American geologist and one of the fouders of planetary science, who died in 1997 in a car crash. Earlier he was a candidate to become one of the Apollo astronauts, but a health condition ruled him out - it had been a dream of his to be the first geologist on the Moon. In 199, some of his ashes were carried to the moon by the Lunar Prospector space probe, and his meorial capsule bears a quote from Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet, which also is featured in the song. Shoemaker is the only human who's remains have been placed on a celestial body outside the Earth.

[@aenorist2431]

You should have a look at their Song "Yours is an empty Hope" from Wembley, live. If the vocal interplay sold you on this, you'll love it. Beware the twist though ;)

[@kenmanley1576]

Oh, why did you do that? Asking people to tell you which they think is better, Floor or Tayja? Do you understand what you probably have started? If not, you will! (This should be "fun"........ :) )

[@krakon6565]

I like Floor better but if you like Tarja better kudos to you,.. ENJOY it's not a competition. I enjoy both.

[@mishaaleksander2782]

Please react to "10th Man Down" Tarja Era, live from "Summer Breeze Festival", memorable performance. One is not better than the other, it is just personal taste in music/vocal. My preference is Tarja, and it is not because she is better technically than the other two Nightwish singer. Her tone of voice captivating me and pleasing to my ears. Thank you for reacting to Tarja and looking forward to hear some more of her performance.

[@Dark__Thoughts]

I don't really want to compare or put her against Floor, especially since she wasn't a replacement for her, but actually their third vocalist. But as someone who grew up with Nightwish, it just was not the same anymore after she was out. I could not even enjoy the old tracks anymore after they broke up. And yes, she always was singing like this, wiki says "She is a lyric soprano and has a vocal range of three octaves.", and I think they more or less created the operatic metal genre, but the more general symphonic metal already existed with bands like Therion, and I think Within Temptation also formed around that time. After the breakup with Tarja, bands like Epica, After Forever or Xandria grew pretty rapidly, kinda filling that gap of a lot of disappointed Nightwish fans. And those crying / eye rolling girls shots are cut in I think. I am pretty sure they are from older Nightwish footage from back then, when they were infamously known for causing orgasms in teen girl filled stadiums, and I am pretty sure those shots were part of that. At least I think to remember those scenes from long before the breakup.

[@josejesuscontrerassalazar9140]

Great! Now that you listened to Tarja and Marko's duet version, you can check out the Floor Jansen and Henk Poort duet version at beste zangers.

[@melicriszoe1]

Gracias por reaccionar!! Te recomiendo de la carrera solista de Tarja: innocence, victim of ritual, supremacy, into the sun, walk alone, diva, etc etc

[@MY-se1jf]

It is a bit unfair to say Anette did not last long. She was with the band for years. But fans of course count albums. Not real time. But yeah, there is more variety in this music library. So if you think you know this band already, guess again. ;)

[@fioddorsuperconcentrado2492]

Conting albums Anette made 2, the same as Floor yet.

[@CriticalReactions]

I guess I gotta do a reaction for one of Anette's songs then. From the little bit that I read about the vocalists I had the understanding that she didn't stick around long but 2 albums is certainly a long time.

[@emelielonnberg.]

Thanks for great analyses!For new Nightwish try their just released album "Human :||: Nature". The song "Pan" is manys favorite 😊 Nightwish's official channel has released lyrics videos for the whole album.

[@AngryBob4213]

As far as the pronunciation, both J's are said like Y's. Like Tar-ya and Yohn-son :)

[@pcgaming4944]

hey, wondering if you could check out some more Alestorm? :)

[@CriticalReactions]

I definitely see that happening sometime.

[@Elapidae]

Tarja was all opera style all the time. She was good at it and gave early Nightwish a very distinct style. Floor does every style including growling although she rarely gets to show that off with Nightwish

[@lekalla]

That full on opera style on every song worked well in those Tarja era albums. But in 2020 it would not really work same way anymore. Maybe one song on the album or something. Not even a whole song but drops here and there.

[@yotambraunshtein9786]

Love opera singing chek out powerwolf and lacuna coil and ex libris

[@corneliusantonius3108]

You are pronouncing Floor Jansen perfectley 💕💕💕 Greetings from The Netherlands.

[@MY-se1jf]

Nightwish has also made cover of Gary Moore´s Over the hills. Shame it never gets any attention. I suppose music video looks too old and there is no live version? Don´t know. Still a nice cover tho.

[@crysias]

You should react to Glide and Voice of Trespass by Between the buried and me. You can pretty much consider the first one as an intro to the latter. It's sick. You'd love it.

[@Dr-Shred]

From the new album i'd recommend Music or Pan.

[@bjhellstream]

Tarja is also pronounced with a soft J. It's only in english you sort of put a D in front of a J. If she spelled it Tarya you come closer in english I think.

[@matsv201]

Its intresting how all the girls in the audience is 14 and looks really imature.. and in ghost love score they are like 25 and older.

[@mtanto1]

Love Tarja so much!!!! Perhaps u should check this Japanese bands also Liv Moon - Phantom of the opera kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHPQqZWBlpWbjNE or Unlucky Morpheus - Knight of Sword kzbin.info/www/bejne/a6CrgXaHqsigabc

[@zenayze]

I really love your reactions.. i think i saw them all. Could you please react to a Portuguese band Noidz - Estranha forma de vida. Keep going with your videos!

[@paraisoperdido4687]

Ghost love score was making whith tarja , not floor

[@wildylupous]

Why you clip is mirrored?

[@CriticalReactions]

Gotta avoid my videos being blocked somehow :)

[@tereflores1316]

I love Tarja!!

[@Idefixu]

Floor can make the older NW songs her own, so when Tuomas wrote the songs is not very important in that sense, I think. If you would like to hear songs from the newest album, released just 2 months ago, try 'How's the heart'. Tuomas wrote at least a part of the song with Floor in his mind. And you can hear how much Floor loves that song. Me too! Funny that this video is a mirror image of the original.

[@maggaw9869]

Tarja & Marko. Thank you.

[@adlicious100]

Soo onnaturel .... My opinion ....listen to a true performance.... beste zangers .... floor and Henk....phantom of the opera ....BEST version ....and trully from the heart 💜🦉👑

[@mabrhix2]

Tarja sing Ghost love score first

[@VictorOliveira-er6do]

you should really revisit tool

[@CriticalReactions]

I plan to and will probably check out some older stuff since many fans have told me their earlier works are more accessible.

[@VictorOliveira-er6do]

Critical Reactions yess i would recomend parabol/parabola or the pot both amazing songs

[@richardtomlin8704]

'around operatic singing...' well no. Keep listening.

[@gregorykenfield3134]

Are you aware that the video of the band was reversed?

[@donepearce]

The J is a Y. Floor Yansen. All Germanic European languages (Scandinavian, Dutch, German etc) pronounce Js that way. The Latin languages use the English style J. So Taja is Tar-ya. I personally find Tarja over-operatic almost to the point of caricature.

[@Forgotten_Moon]

Hmm...

[@keithteaser]

I prefer the Floor version..Although Tarja is good Marco has to pull back a bit as he overpowers Tarja a lot..to see more of Marco you can see him in the Ayreon Universe a song called magnetism..he uses more grit in his voice..

[@aegonthedragon6341]

Nightwish is not based on operatic voices, in fact, they had to adapt to it and didn't even know that Tarja began singing in operatic style because she wasn't when they met her. And this song is just a cover of an opera and not suited to categorize the bands tendencies. It just happens that the operatic voices work as well with their music. And the heavy operatic composition was reduced significantly right after the second album. Tarja kept singing operatic because that's what she can do.

[@y.a.s9198]

Actually, they they were doing a boring folk band with acoustic guitars and it was due to Tarja powerful voice that they had to incorporate electric guitars, bass and drum and turn to the metal / classical type of music.Tarja is able to sing in very different styles, sings in several languages and play instruments and write music, her solo career is super versatile, therefore it's not that she is not versatile, they didn't know how to explore her abilities or didn't care to do it in Nigthwish.

[@aegonthedragon6341]

@@y.a.s9198 Yes an none of that is related to Tarja singing opera or not. The music was going to be a mix of classical and metal regardless of Tarja being there or not. And no Tarja is not known for versatility in her vocals classic is pretty much her tool. And at the end of the day her popularity is mainly inherited from Nightwish.

[@nicholew350]

@@aegonthedragon6341 That's not true. They switched to metal because of Tarjs's voice. Tarja can do much more thsn classical, and no one gave af about Floor until she joined Nightwish.

[@aegonthedragon6341]

@@nicholew350 By that logic I can also say no one would give af about Tarja if it wasn't for Nghtwish. At least try to make sense in your arguments.

[@aegonthedragon6341]

@@nicholew350 Floor was already very well known with After Forever and by that time she was already quite a superior singer.

[@markototev]

I find Tarja to be extremely gifted... and extremely boring and one dimensional which is why I was never a fan. If you compare the same songs with Tarja and Floor you'll see the songs coming to life with Floor. Case and point - Ghost Love Score.