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Jamel_AKA_Jamal

Jamel_AKA_Jamal

3 жыл бұрын

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@jamelakajamal
@jamelakajamal 3 жыл бұрын
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@tammybrennan2040
@tammybrennan2040 3 жыл бұрын
This channel has made my day so much brighter. I’m exhausted after work & listening to great music brightens my nights. Neil Young’s awesome I seen him @ the Fox theatre in Detroit a few years ago ❤️🇺🇸👍💜❤️
@johncampbell756
@johncampbell756 3 жыл бұрын
Your source is incorrect. He wrote it after David Crosby came over and explained the situation. He played what he was writing for David, who then called Graham Nash to book a studio and get the musicians together. The song was released a month later. One victim was simply walking to class. There are conflicting reports on the actual sequence of events. The Guard claimed people threw rocks. But the response to a rock is not a rifle. That was David Crosby shouting "Why?" and "How many more?" It was spontaneous as were the tears he was crying.
@samanthaberens610
@samanthaberens610 3 жыл бұрын
Check out George Ezra - Budapest, he’s so good and love his voice!
@aldoneira416
@aldoneira416 3 жыл бұрын
Please check out “Marooned” by Pink Floyd
@glenniamilonich5996
@glenniamilonich5996 3 жыл бұрын
Great song.....can u plzzzzz react to Chicago's song Smile....plzzzzzzz
@kimberlyjenkins725
@kimberlyjenkins725 3 жыл бұрын
Students Allison Beth Krause, 19, Jeffrey Glenn Miller, 20, Sandra Lee Scheuer, 20, William Knox Schroeder, 19. Remember.
@bianchiveloce1
@bianchiveloce1 3 жыл бұрын
One day, I'd like to pay my respects at the site during the anniversary of this event and place flowers at the place these kids died at. I was a kid when this happened in 1970 and for the life of me I couldn't understand why students where being shot at.
@FloridaRocks
@FloridaRocks 3 жыл бұрын
@gailenefuller8330
@gailenefuller8330 3 жыл бұрын
And let's say the names of all the brothers and sisters that lost their lives in Vietnam. I'm listening.
@TheCybertiger9
@TheCybertiger9 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kim for the mention of names.Sad and tragic event
@sandyschroeder1231
@sandyschroeder1231 3 жыл бұрын
Bill Schroeder was our neighbor.
@cnatview
@cnatview 3 жыл бұрын
My husband (before we were together) had just returned home from a tour of duty in Vietnam. He was a medic. The higher ups decided that his company should start training for mob/riot control to help contain/control protests that were happening here in the States against the war. My husband refused. He told his captain that he wasn't going to point a weapon at a fellow citizen because they were protesting against the very hell-hole he just returned from. He spent 3 months in solitary confinement until his time was up. He had to accept a general discharge but he felt it was worth it rather than having to go up against fellow American citizens. Thanks for your reaction, Jamel. It was a dark time in our history but it's a time we shouldn't forget. Take care and be well. Peace.
@gladtobefreeagain7375
@gladtobefreeagain7375 3 жыл бұрын
Your husband served honorably & his fellow citizens owe him a debt of gratitude. A true citizen soldier. Many thanks.
@shaunkelly9860
@shaunkelly9860 3 жыл бұрын
Total respect to your husband. Principles have no price.
@iamsria
@iamsria 3 жыл бұрын
Please thank your husband for us.
@donnagonatas3155
@donnagonatas3155 3 жыл бұрын
God bless your husband for standing up for his beliefs. God bless you for fighting for our rights and freedom. Thank you sir for your service.😥🙏💔✌❤
@debraa8041
@debraa8041 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ
@lindag4484
@lindag4484 2 жыл бұрын
I was there as a freshman, between classes, crossing the commons, past the Victory Bell and up Blanket Hill, heading for Fletcher Hall (my dorm) for lunch. I am now 70, and as I think of all the living I have done since then, that Allison Krause, Jeffrey Miller, William Schroeder (in my history class), and Sandra Scheuer, were robbed of, it still brings me to tears.
@itisonlyme1
@itisonlyme1 Жыл бұрын
Very sorry.
@javajen19
@javajen19 Жыл бұрын
Oh gosh.😪
@70sfred1
@70sfred1 10 ай бұрын
My aunt and uncle were there at Kent State at the same time and I can't even imagine!
@arniezelkovitz6885
@arniezelkovitz6885 2 жыл бұрын
“What if you knew her and found her dead on the ground.” I was a neighbor, classmate and friend of Allison Krause. That line always gets me…
@carrieb5711
@carrieb5711 Жыл бұрын
☹️💜
@ilikepingpong
@ilikepingpong Жыл бұрын
...."How can you run when you know?" To me, this completes the thought. The message of solidarity there to stay with her, protect each other, stay with each other. In these situations, protestors are often heavily criticized (or even blamed) for not complying with the orders of the police/military. But honestly, how can you disperse (run) when you're seeing someone be taken and brutalized before your eyes? Or further, if you yourself are being brutalized? It is a biological response. I'm so sorry to hear that you did know her (Allison). May she rest in peace.
@Filbi
@Filbi 3 жыл бұрын
The Kent State Massacre. A dark day in American history.
@malcolmjcullen
@malcolmjcullen 3 жыл бұрын
One of many, unfortunately.
@harpomarxist4185
@harpomarxist4185 3 жыл бұрын
One that should *NEVER* be forgotten.
@andrewhawkins6754
@andrewhawkins6754 3 жыл бұрын
Followed 11 days later by the same happening at Jackson State.
@onusgumboot5565
@onusgumboot5565 3 жыл бұрын
In the near future those will be the good old days. They kind of already are.
@willcool713
@willcool713 3 жыл бұрын
Now it's Star Wars Day...
@rich56ca
@rich56ca 3 жыл бұрын
I must have heard this song a thousand times and it never loses its power.
@pedroluce726
@pedroluce726 3 жыл бұрын
Yes Rich56!! you’ve nailed the SINGLE most stunning thing bout this song. opening guitar riff an ice pick in the spine....I LOVE this song but if I’m having a bad day I can be sobbing before this song is over. This song has frightening power “.....What if you knew her ...” that line puts a hole through me every time And I thank CSN and especially Young for that. Rock n Roll + Soul = Narcotic
@peggypennington3270
@peggypennington3270 3 жыл бұрын
I remember so clearly. And I will always have tears.
@debraa8041
@debraa8041 3 жыл бұрын
You can hear each of their voices
@cookiemonstermama36936
@cookiemonstermama36936 3 жыл бұрын
This song HAD to be written.
@maf5454
@maf5454 3 жыл бұрын
@@peggypennington3270 My sister so do I. I have one more reason to truly remember that day, I turned 16. I didn't know it then but I was changed forever. I had a talk with my folk and I'm sure they saw it, I was just too young to understand it. Be well and safe, peace to you and yours.
@jwichman9
@jwichman9 2 жыл бұрын
This song conveys the anger and frustration felt by this generation at the time. This should never be forgotten lest it be repeated.
@Allagi22
@Allagi22 Жыл бұрын
It has been repeated. Armed government forces working for the state haven't stopped gunning down innocent civilians during non violent protests. Have you read the U.S. news the last 50 years?
@markpittman2521
@markpittman2521 3 жыл бұрын
The photo of the crying girl, with her arms outspread. It touches my heart 50 years later like the first time I saw it. And again I'm crying.
@michellewolf7907
@michellewolf7907 2 жыл бұрын
and she was just 14 years old
@itisonlyme1
@itisonlyme1 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing it in a Dutch newspaper
@FrogLegs313
@FrogLegs313 6 ай бұрын
@@michellewolf7907 She was also one of the few mildly bright spots of that situation. She was actually a runaway who was reunited with her family thanks to them seeing that picture.
@debbieplato5107
@debbieplato5107 3 жыл бұрын
The four that were killed weren't even in the protest. They were going to classes. I still remember the picture in the paper of a woman crying over the body of her friend that was shot
@debbieplato5107
@debbieplato5107 3 жыл бұрын
@@xeyex I live in Canada and that picture was on the front page of the paper here and I can still see it. So sad
@dbradx
@dbradx 3 жыл бұрын
And even worse, she wasn't a woman, she was just a teenaged kid and she had to witness that.
@7rays
@7rays 3 жыл бұрын
Which is why Neil Young wrote the lyrics… “What if you knew her and found her dead on the ground, how can you run when you know?”
@glenniamilonich5996
@glenniamilonich5996 3 жыл бұрын
She was actually a runaway...saw her in a documentary about this...she didn't know the man
@livingreflection5
@livingreflection5 3 жыл бұрын
There were no classes that day or for two days before. Due to the riots, all students were told to stay in their dorm rooms.
@jasonremy1627
@jasonremy1627 3 жыл бұрын
The pinnacle of protest songs. This one hits so hard.
@robertbrucer3437
@robertbrucer3437 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 68 years old and I remember this day like yesterday. Hearing this song makes me cry still to this day. This is a gut reaction that I can't describe in words. Here we are all this time gone by and the war mongers are back in power who would have our soldiers fighting for money just like back in Vietnam. So sad so sad, music is power.
@0verload
@0verload 3 жыл бұрын
It's really sad that so many still disregard and or forget history. As they say "Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it". It's both sad and kind of scary.
@williamsifton6270
@williamsifton6270 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on
@walterlippmann6292
@walterlippmann6292 2 жыл бұрын
the war mongers never left power. and probably never will.
@RustyPgh
@RustyPgh 2 жыл бұрын
I remember that day too as a kid. It was a scary time - the deaths of Bobby Kennedy, MLK, the riots and burning in the cities . . . I didn't really understand, but I knew things were very unsettled and unsafe.
@u4riahsc
@u4riahsc 2 жыл бұрын
Plenty of $$$$$$ to be made off the backs of dead and maimed service members.
@wow_horac4663
@wow_horac4663 3 жыл бұрын
I'm an alum of Kent state university where the event from the song happened. The campus to this day has a day of memorial for this event every year.
@faith8139
@faith8139 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. My daughter-in-law just graduated from Kent. I was 14 when this happened.
@austinhale2832
@austinhale2832 2 жыл бұрын
And there still is the bullet hole clean through the metal sculpture next to Taylor hall.
@ericdstraus
@ericdstraus 3 жыл бұрын
Recording this song made David Crosby break down crying. It's so sad, but such a great song.
@heidichristensen7919
@heidichristensen7919 3 жыл бұрын
Makes want to cry just thinking about it. Thank you Jamel. I think many kids don’t know about what happened in this country during the Vietnam war
@marksherrick
@marksherrick 3 жыл бұрын
in some of the released versions of this song, you can basically hear him falling apart at the end. Live was a whole new story too.
@micheleferrazzani638
@micheleferrazzani638 3 жыл бұрын
Watching and listening to this made me cry all over. I so remember this. So sad
@andrewptob
@andrewptob 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact: CSNY had a hit rising the charts, Teach Your Children, but they released this great song immediately because they felt they had to get it out right away.
@Teeveepicksures
@Teeveepicksures 3 жыл бұрын
A huge shift from such a loving, hippy dippy song to such a powerful, meaningful anthem for the anti-war movement.
@catherinelynnfraser2001
@catherinelynnfraser2001 3 жыл бұрын
Honest priorities❤️
@pedrolopez8057
@pedrolopez8057 3 жыл бұрын
@@catherinelynnfraser2001 That was Niel Young. A number of people have said he's not in it for the money.
@debbiehunt603
@debbiehunt603 3 жыл бұрын
David Crosby called Graham Nash to get everyone to the recording studio the NEXT DAY after Neil Young showed the song to him (after writing it in an hour). It was more important to them to show how America was killing it's children than to have a hit record.
@jimjim401
@jimjim401 3 жыл бұрын
And against some pressure from their record label, who could only see the commercial aspect.
@bossfan49
@bossfan49 3 жыл бұрын
One thing about Neil's lyrics, in all of his songs- they get to the point.
@thegoldennuggetyt
@thegoldennuggetyt 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna get down to it, soldiers are cutting us down
@blindriv3r
@blindriv3r 2 жыл бұрын
yep he pulls no punches, sometimes he uses allegory etc but he always is clear in his message
@BST-lm4po
@BST-lm4po 2 жыл бұрын
And now Neil pushes for government obedience! How ironic.
@carrieb5711
@carrieb5711 Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@Alwayswilling
@Alwayswilling 3 ай бұрын
His dad, Scott, was a journalist and author so most of it comes honestly.
@allDGoodNamesRtaken
@allDGoodNamesRtaken 2 жыл бұрын
Some of us old folks still remember the shock, sorrow, and rage that we felt when it happened. Neil put those feelings to music. I still shed a tear when I hear it.
@zorak1704
@zorak1704 3 жыл бұрын
Chrissie Hynde of The Pretenders was there that day. She was a student.
@aaronhiggs
@aaronhiggs 3 жыл бұрын
My brother in law’s mom was at Kent during the shootings she is in one of the pictures as a nursing student attending to a shot student. Such a sad stain on American history.
@kathybwell
@kathybwell 3 жыл бұрын
Love Chrissie Hynde, she's a great singer.
@izzonj
@izzonj 3 жыл бұрын
So was Mark Mothersbaugh.
@gizmo5925
@gizmo5925 3 жыл бұрын
Jamel, you have to listen to music by Chrissie Hynde's band, the Pretenders. How about "Brass in the Pocket," or "Middle of the Road"?
@jena6587
@jena6587 3 жыл бұрын
Oh shit! I didn’t know that!
@johnathandavis3693
@johnathandavis3693 3 жыл бұрын
I love this - "Tin soldiers and Nixon's comin'..." Always thought the guitars sounded like an angry, marching dirge....
@leomarshall4059
@leomarshall4059 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still surprised that Nixon didn't have them arrested for name-checking him.
@davidmorley1606
@davidmorley1606 3 жыл бұрын
It was Governor Rhodes that ordered the Ohio NG to Kent State.
@carlaharrington5120
@carlaharrington5120 3 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest opening lines to a song!
@malcolml309
@malcolml309 3 жыл бұрын
@@leomarshall4059 Undoubtedly, they made Nixon's enemies list.
@Accordionant
@Accordionant 3 жыл бұрын
Neil Young is the master of the warpath guitar...
@nancypertschuk501
@nancypertschuk501 3 жыл бұрын
"There's something happening here, what it is ain't exactly clear...There's a man with a gun over there telling me I got to beware....."
@josephbechtel7103
@josephbechtel7103 3 жыл бұрын
What a field day for the heat...
@marieinneo1539
@marieinneo1539 3 жыл бұрын
For What it's Worth by Buffalo Springfield. Stephen Stills and Neil Young were members of both groups.
@heidibookout3596
@heidibookout3596 3 жыл бұрын
For What It’s Worth is NOT Viet Nam protest song, It was written in response to the Watts Riots in L A
@baronfyrewhine
@baronfyrewhine 2 жыл бұрын
@@heidibookout3596 Right and wrong. It was written about protests about curfews on the Sunset Strip.
@josetrinidadtinajerotorres4741
@josetrinidadtinajerotorres4741 2 жыл бұрын
Stop hey whats that sound, everbody look whats going on.....
@four-eyedjackwarren1916
@four-eyedjackwarren1916 3 жыл бұрын
51 years later and this song still make me cry.
@davidsmith7806
@davidsmith7806 3 жыл бұрын
As Eric Straus said, Jamel, David Crosby was sobbing after the band recorded this in the studio. That is raw emotion, my friend. Period. 🙏
@gabrielford3473
@gabrielford3473 3 жыл бұрын
You can feel it in the song. Powerful
@timbruno1926
@timbruno1926 3 жыл бұрын
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
@michellerobin5461
@michellerobin5461 3 жыл бұрын
Rush ✌🏻
@kurt666morris
@kurt666morris Жыл бұрын
Shame on Ohio for over and over reelecting their Governor that ordered this. James "Rocky" Rhoades served 4 terms as Governor of Ohio! He should have been impeached and had his sorry ass thrown in jail.
@MaddogJones
@MaddogJones 3 жыл бұрын
David Crosby did an amazing interview on Howard Stern and says Neil Young took the newspaper article with him into the woods and 20 minutes later had a finished song. Stephen Stills saw the importance of the song and urged the band to record the song as soon as possible. They released the song despite already having a single (Teach Your Children) on the charts.
@surfwriter8461
@surfwriter8461 Жыл бұрын
David Crosby was interviewed by Bob Costas (posted on this site) in which he described it differently. He said that he and Neil were sitting on the porch with guitars, David was handed a copy of Life magazine with the photo of the young woman kneeling over the dead body of a girl who had been shot and with arms outstretched seemed to be screaming with grief and disbelief at what happened. He and Neil continued looking at the photo and becoming more emotional about it. Crosby says Neil immediately started composing the song, very simple at that point, and Crosby tried to get him to flesh it out. Before long, it was written and Neil felt it needed to be recorded immediately. So David called to Graham Nash, made arrangements to book a studio and they all went there to record it asap, releasing it within two weeks because of the timely and urgent quality of this.
@RussInCanada
@RussInCanada 3 жыл бұрын
Someone yelled at a guy and asked him why he was taking photos during the chaos, and he yelled back "Because no one will believe this."
@izzonj
@izzonj 3 жыл бұрын
Reminiscent of Eisenhower having film crews at the German concentration camps as they were first seeing the horrors. He said that it was so bad people would doubt it unless they saw it for themselves. And now we have people doubting both the holocaust and Kent State and a whole host of horrors
@gabrielford3473
@gabrielford3473 3 жыл бұрын
@@izzonj Very true.
@donniehagy5125
@donniehagy5125 3 жыл бұрын
@@izzonj And don't forget the insurrection on January 6, 2021...
@randallbryan717
@randallbryan717 3 жыл бұрын
@@donniehagy5125 I assume you are referring to the peaceful protest.
@donniehagy5125
@donniehagy5125 3 жыл бұрын
@@randallbryan717 Oh, I forgot how peaceful it was. Let's see: five people dead. Yeah; that's peaceful alright.
@classic-kool
@classic-kool 3 жыл бұрын
I attended Ohio State back then, and we had a large walk area called The Oval that was HUGE like a park.... it would fill up with student protesters (Thousands of students) and a couple of weeks before the Kent State massacre, we were occupied by the National Guard who were armed with live rounds of ammunition... our radical protesters were throwing rocks at the National Guard and it was really by the grace of God no one was shot and killed.... there is plenty of footage of this on KZbin.. It was like a tinder box ready to explode at any time. I remember it like it was yesterday......
@mikehenson819
@mikehenson819 3 жыл бұрын
I remembered the tumultuous 60s like a bad dream. I was never so glad to see the 1970s roll in and put an end to all the social and cultural scariness. And when we finally left Vietnam, it was like being cured from from a lengthy illness.
@Hobodeluxe960
@Hobodeluxe960 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikehenson819 yeah back in the mid 60's when they first started busing kids around to new schools trying to achieve some diversification and de-segregation in the system it was met with great resistance. I remember fighting on our street between blacks and whites. yelling and throwing things at each other. it was crazy.
@whome1299
@whome1299 3 жыл бұрын
Now those radicals are in charge.
@artislife2621
@artislife2621 3 жыл бұрын
@@whome1299 Not now.
@classic-kool
@classic-kool 3 жыл бұрын
@@artislife2621 - a lot of them are judges ...
@chereecargill355
@chereecargill355 2 жыл бұрын
I was 17 when this happened. I wasn't anywhere near Ohio, but it shocked the nation. I was a student and it could have been me. All these years, it still shocks me. Man, those were turbulent times and this song is still as powerful now as it was then.
@teller6289
@teller6289 3 жыл бұрын
After seeing the famous photo in Life magazine, Crosby, who was in staying in the mountains with Neil Young showed it to Neil. He said Neil took the magazine and his guitar and walked of into the woods. One hour later he came back with this song. Crosby called Graham Nash and said get to the studio NOW. They recorded it the next day in an hour and a half. The record company did not want them to release it because "Teach Your Children" was rising up the charts. CSNY said NO it goes out.
@nickbarber3315
@nickbarber3315 3 жыл бұрын
One of the things missing in today’s music....feeling and meaning. CSNY wrote perfectly the feeling to this tragedy.
@traceyc2576
@traceyc2576 3 жыл бұрын
Everything is missing now
@MyargonautsJason
@MyargonautsJason 3 жыл бұрын
That's a HUGE blanket statement... while depth of feeling in lyrics might be absent from most Top 40 radio these days, it certainly doesn't mean that all of today's music is bereft of feeling and meaning.. check out Kendrick Lamar's How Much Does a Dollar Cost or Childish Gambino's This is America for some stunning songs from the last couple years. I love oldies like this song, but there is still good music being made today.
@theactualbajmahal833
@theactualbajmahal833 3 жыл бұрын
Childish Gambino may want a word with you.
@jameshannagan7830
@jameshannagan7830 3 жыл бұрын
@@MyargonautsJason Try Radiohead A Moon-shaped Pool from 2016 or any of their stuff not too many love songs.
@jameshannagan7830
@jameshannagan7830 3 жыл бұрын
Try Radiohead their last album from 2016 A Moon-shaped Pool.
@UnkleJustin
@UnkleJustin 3 жыл бұрын
Marvin Gaye "What's Going On " is another great protest song.
@lesliesterling826
@lesliesterling826 3 жыл бұрын
maybe the song that sums up and closes out the 60s (even though it was released in the 70s)
@bernardsalvatore1929
@bernardsalvatore1929 3 жыл бұрын
Yes along with this song Ohio, Marvin Gaye's "what's going on" is definitely one of a few songs that brings tears to my eyes no matter how many times I listen to it!!!
@jakehamilton5502
@jakehamilton5502 3 жыл бұрын
"How many more?!" I grew up listening to the protest and rebellion music from this era. My heart is broken over and over watching history repeat itself generation after generation. Anger is a healthy response to abuse and injustice. Fight oppression.
@TheJasminereneeabbott333
@TheJasminereneeabbott333 Жыл бұрын
Sandra was my friend. We were protesting everything. We were fighting for everybody’s rights and we’re fighting against the war. I lost a friend that day in 1970 at Kent state.
@marynorris8800
@marynorris8800 5 ай бұрын
So sorry 😢
@Sotto_
@Sotto_ 3 жыл бұрын
This song still gives me chills. It's about the shooting of four individuals during student protests at Kent State University Ohio.
@michaels3067
@michaels3067 3 жыл бұрын
67 shots fired. Nine wounded - four dead. Per wiki, the closest of the four was 265ft away. The other dead were were 300-plus feet away. At least one of the dead was just walking by and not part of any protest.
@andreadeamon6419
@andreadeamon6419 3 жыл бұрын
From my understanding the 4 killed were not part of the protests.
@karireynolds4820
@karireynolds4820 3 жыл бұрын
I watched a documentary about it and it was so tragic.
@christopherdrzik6784
@christopherdrzik6784 3 жыл бұрын
This a real burr in my ass. Kent State was just down the road from where I lived. I got drafted. My Mom wanted me to go to Canada.
@rk41gator
@rk41gator 3 жыл бұрын
It is what happens when those in 'control' feel threatened and go to extremes. The Guard should never have been called in. The authorities escalated to situation to look tough. Then it got out of hand. The Natl Guard were the ones rioting that day.
@rkress9349
@rkress9349 3 жыл бұрын
@@heathcliff8624 Excuse me. Whether I served of not has NOTHING to do with understanding what happened that day and how demagogues use situations only for their own perceived benefits at the expensive of millions who suffer and DIE. Don't preach to me about baseless. Don't tell me it is "something which I know nothing about". Did you serve in Vietnam? Even then we knew it was a baseless, a useless waste of lives. I lost several friends to that stupidity. I lived through that time and know a lot more than armchair philosophers who truly yak about things THEY know nothing about. So sit down.
@lorinapetranova2607
@lorinapetranova2607 Жыл бұрын
Haven't heard this song in a very long time. Broke down tearful. Such crazy times. Love n huggss ya'll. Human rights matter. Big time.
@davidtingley9978
@davidtingley9978 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: future members of new wave pioneers Devo were students at Kent State when this happened, and the incident was influential in their philosophical development. Perhaps it's time to check out Devo. Whip It is their most famous song, Freedom of Choice is my favorite, and there's countless other great songs there.
@lucimitchell7273
@lucimitchell7273 3 жыл бұрын
Find the cost of freedom by Crosby, stills, Nash, and young is also a powerful song. I tear up every time I hear it
@georgeprice4212
@georgeprice4212 3 жыл бұрын
That was the flip side of Ohio.
@ruthschaefer3228
@ruthschaefer3228 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I almost can't listen to it. It hurts so hard
@marymargaretmoore9034
@marymargaretmoore9034 3 жыл бұрын
This song is about the shooting at Kent State University in Ohio, in 1970, during a Vietnam war protest.
@Serai3
@Serai3 3 жыл бұрын
It was Cambodia, not Vietnam.
@marymargaretmoore9034
@marymargaretmoore9034 3 жыл бұрын
@@Serai3 OK, but during the Vietnam war.
@NT-fo3me
@NT-fo3me 3 жыл бұрын
@@Serai3 Really? Even though the protest was about the expansion of the Vietnam War to include the bombing of Viet Cong and NVA supply lines through Cambodia - as well as National Guard presence on the campus, nobody referred to it as the Cambodia War. It was part and parcel of the Vietnam War. Are you being deliberately obtuse?
@collincolston8443
@collincolston8443 3 жыл бұрын
4 dead in Ohio isn't talking about a horseshoe score
@Serai3
@Serai3 3 жыл бұрын
@@NT-fo3me No, asshole. I'm being someone who was around at the time. Yeah, Cambodia came out of the Vietnam War, but the bombing there was its own side issue at the time, and many protests were SPECIFICALLY about that part of the war. So who's being fucking obtuse NOW?
@JF-kv1gm
@JF-kv1gm Жыл бұрын
This song makes the hairs stand up on the back of my neck. And it always brings a tear to the eye.
@dougallen8305
@dougallen8305 2 жыл бұрын
I was 10 then. These words haunt me still. I can't forget them. 4 killed, 10 injured. Bro you need to see the images. This song is done over many of them. Tears in my eyes again.
@debbeborders5762
@debbeborders5762 3 жыл бұрын
The comment with the names of the 4 dead The simple request by the commenter, Say their names, made this so much more emotional for me today.
@karenmandeville7116
@karenmandeville7116 3 жыл бұрын
i remember this when i was in junior high. it really shook me that our own national guard could shoot college students just for protesting the vietnam war.
@tessesmom
@tessesmom 3 жыл бұрын
Same here, it really shook me as a young teen
@gothicprincess52
@gothicprincess52 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. I was 13.
@artislife2621
@artislife2621 3 жыл бұрын
Same, it was stunning and horrifying, the propaganda the media put out was a lot different than today, we only had 3 TV stations at the time so the news was a bit slanted toward the opinion of the people in power, I remember them talking about teenagers jumping out of windows on LSD, I seriously doubt that happened to the extent that it was reported, if it happened at all. It was all a whole lot of fear mongering by the “establishment” to advance the “war on drugs” which never worked and to squash the hippie movement that was all about peace, love and flower power, it was a way to demonize all young people and destroy the movement in favor of the Vietnam War. Nixon did get us out but he told some lies, bombed Cambodia, unnecessarily. J. Edgar Hoover, head of the FBI even had a hit out on Martin Luther King Jr., that’s what I read years later. They made the black panthers out to be a terrorist group because they were the first black armed protestors. MLK believed in peaceful protests for the most part but he did once say “the riot is the voice of the unheard.” He wasn’t wrong, nobody paid much attention to the rights of African Americans until shit caught on fire, It’s just the truth, I remember like it was yesterday. I grew up in the south, right in the middle of it as a white kid.
@jennifergriswold6240
@jennifergriswold6240 3 жыл бұрын
Me, too!
@frankrappa4765
@frankrappa4765 Жыл бұрын
R.I.P. to David Crosby. This is one of my favorite songs by CSNY and I can listen to it on a loop and I have listened to it on a loop just today when I found out about Mr. Crosby.
@Scottracine68
@Scottracine68 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly it's still very real and relevant today, dare I say even more relevant half a century later, last summer showed this ugly truth. I love reaction videos because growing up with this music I naively assumed everyone was hearing it and hoped it would bring some change. Being much older and (somewhat) wiser now, I'm seeing that wasn't the case but "the times they are a changin'" again. The ability to expose such a large audience to music they never knew existed is (my opinion) something that can change how people view the world. Music is an oral history of times gone by but also meant to help recognize it happening again. Music has no borders, harmony and synchronicity is an act of nature that allows us to see beyond our own experiences, these reaction videos just reinforce that what I thought was life changing at the time still is for people 50 years later.
@erichammer2751
@erichammer2751 3 жыл бұрын
In the same vein, Dion's "Abraham, Martin and John" needs to be on your list.
@carlajenkins1990
@carlajenkins1990 3 жыл бұрын
I sobbed for two hours after hearing this for the first time. Our nation changed forever after Bobby's death. All hope just seemed to vanish.
@lisabellamy8424
@lisabellamy8424 3 жыл бұрын
One of the handful of songs I can’t listen to...
@erichammer2751
@erichammer2751 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisabellamy8424 Yeah, I get it. Especially the last verse, where he's hoping the world we get better, and then interrupts himself with "Anybody seen my old friend Bobby?"
@markmurphy558
@markmurphy558 3 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, I preferred the "Mom's" Mabley version.
@bethcrumpton476
@bethcrumpton476 3 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt the most powerful protest song ever written.
@jeffduflo8204
@jeffduflo8204 3 жыл бұрын
CCR FORTUNATE SON
@andylucas8262
@andylucas8262 3 жыл бұрын
The Rolling Stones "Gimme Shelter ".
@markmurphy558
@markmurphy558 3 жыл бұрын
How about Woody Guthrie or Pete Seeger? Protest songs did not start with the Vietnam War.
@roncarpenter7240
@roncarpenter7240 3 жыл бұрын
Eve of Destruction.
@davidruland5519
@davidruland5519 3 жыл бұрын
Masters of War - Bob Dylan
@michaellazzeri2069
@michaellazzeri2069 2 жыл бұрын
I was part of that generation. In the late 60's I was a part-time college student protesting the war-------protesting racism------advocating change. I worked for Robert Kennedy's Presidential campaign. -----------and, I remember the Kent State massacre ! and, that's what it was-----a massacre. There was NEVER any justice for those 4 killed ! NEVER. NEVER !! --------------------MJL, 75 y/o
@gemgeekgirl
@gemgeekgirl Жыл бұрын
This song makes me cry every time I hear it. I was 10 & living in Akron (about 12 miles from KSU) at the time this happened. Something I will never forget!
@chriso6719
@chriso6719 3 жыл бұрын
Chrissie Hynde of The Pretenders and a couple members of DEVO were on campus at Kent State when this happened.
@meyerweinstock9567
@meyerweinstock9567 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, The interviews with Casale since Devo's heydays shows him being very emotional about seeing someone die so close to him.
@HappyInSantaMarta
@HappyInSantaMarta 3 жыл бұрын
Joe Walsh says he was there too. I believe David Letterman was a student but not at the oval that day
@crabbit2397
@crabbit2397 3 жыл бұрын
@@HappyInSantaMarta David Letterman went to Ball State University in Muncie Indiana.
@HappyInSantaMarta
@HappyInSantaMarta 3 жыл бұрын
@@crabbit2397 you're right, my bad, i felt that didnt seem right yet did somehow
@d2d2d28
@d2d2d28 3 жыл бұрын
Devo said their band name was partly inspired by the way society was “devolving” and Kent state was a huge catalyst in the devolution they saw.
@mudbug73us
@mudbug73us 3 жыл бұрын
A tortured time. National Guard shooting students, 11 days later police did it again at Jackson State. Most people have no idea how torn up the US was during the mid Sixties to the mid Seventies. Those of us who lived thru those times can see the same hatred in today's polarized nation.
@AI-mg3hy
@AI-mg3hy 3 жыл бұрын
But is it the same hatred? This feels worse somehow. It feels like a lot of the people who lived through the 60s didn't learn anything from what happened and continue to make the same mistakes.
@shevawn1973
@shevawn1973 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! I was in 10th grade when this happened. I'll ALWAYS remember Walter Cronkite reporting this tragedy. He was so sad and disgusted. t seems like not much has really changed.
@jo-ellenschlademan5309
@jo-ellenschlademan5309 Жыл бұрын
Same time, several students in Mississippi at Jackson state were killed, in the same manner - both peaceful protests against Vietnam. The National guard were young people untrained to handle, again, a peaceful protest by students, as was happening all over the world. It's strange to me that so many young people don't know about the history of that war at home, glad someone is reminding us. A truly great song.
@rogerscollier7424
@rogerscollier7424 3 жыл бұрын
Tragic memories. Youthful lives taken for no reason. Memories are still there when ever I hear this song. I was only 17 but as anyone who was old enough to remember will tell you. 1960-70 changed America in a way that we as a country are still suffering from the effects.As you can tell from the comments the pain is still there. Also the division.
@donlawson3330
@donlawson3330 3 жыл бұрын
Check out “Wooden Ships” by them also.
@tubularap
@tubularap 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Wooden Ships, such a wonderful song.
@PHDWhom
@PHDWhom 3 жыл бұрын
I would suggest the Airplane version, which is now my favorite version, but they are both great.
@tubularap
@tubularap 3 жыл бұрын
@@PHDWhom - I did not know that Jefferson Airplane had a cover of Wooden Ships. Thanks for the tip, and I just listened to it. My preference is still the CSNY version, as that is the one I grew up with. Usually the version you heard first (and or most) is the one that will stick with you.
@lisarainbow9703
@lisarainbow9703 3 жыл бұрын
@@tubularap airplane didnt actually "cover" the song, they helped to write it. The credit is shared. Airplane's version is a bit different, it adds piano, but I find it to be equally powerful.
@tubularap
@tubularap 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisarainbow9703 - Thanks for that interesting info. I'm going to look further into the backstory of the song. Never did, I always just assumed it was by Stephen Stills, because of the style.
@myownchannel247
@myownchannel247 3 жыл бұрын
This song is about the Kent state murders of four innocent students, some weren't even involved in the protest but that shouldn't matter, they were murdered in cold blood not "accidently shot"
@Elizabeth-yp8re
@Elizabeth-yp8re 3 жыл бұрын
They were “supposed to be “rubber bullets that day....
@barrycohen311
@barrycohen311 3 жыл бұрын
"Should've been done long ago"
@artislife2621
@artislife2621 3 жыл бұрын
Nixon called his goons on the protesters, college kids mind you! He was such a freak!!!
@Elizabeth-yp8re
@Elizabeth-yp8re 3 жыл бұрын
@@artislife2621 Gov. of Ohio
@dexterjankaren
@dexterjankaren 3 жыл бұрын
@@artislife2621 Remember that the soldiers were kids too, doing what they were ordered to do and likely scarred for it.
@katsujinkin60
@katsujinkin60 3 жыл бұрын
I can still see the cover of all the newspapers the day after. The dead boy lying on the ground and the hysterical girl kneeling over him. In another column of the front page of The New York Times that day was the announcement that my uncle, Charles Gordone, had become the first Black man to win a Pulitzer Prize for his play "No Place To Be Somebody"! Is it really so long ago?
@1234uz
@1234uz 2 жыл бұрын
This happened at Kent State University near Kent , Ohio just up the road from me in the Upper Ohio Valley in MAY , 1970. The students were trying to stop the war in Vietnam . Later that year I would be drafted into the Army and go on to serve in that damn war . Those poor kids 4 dead and 10 wounded simply because they were Against WAR . HATE has always been with us and sadly it doesn't appear to be going away .
@weezerptooie926
@weezerptooie926 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who attended Kent State in the latter part of the 70's, I've learned a bit about this tragedy. The protest began because of the covert expansion of the Viet Nam War into Cambodia. The protests were not entirely peaceful as they had burned down the ROTC building a few days before, prompting Ohio Governor Rhodes to send in the National Guard. A couple of problems with this is that the Guard were not trained in crowd control (the State Police would have been a better choice due to their training) and they were also fatigued since they were just deployed to (The) Ohio State University the previous week. In trying to disperse the crowd they marched themselves into a corner. When trying to march back, they turned toward the crowd and raised their weapons. No one has positively determined who or if an order to fire was made and who fired the first shot, as far as I know. Sadly, four were killed and nine were injured. The four that died, Jeffrey Miller, Allison Krause, William Schroeder, and Sandra Scheuer, were basically bystanders, observing the protesters between classes. Three of the thirteen casualties, including Schroeder, were shot in the back. It was a truly dark day. Neil Young has said that this incident was one of the biggest lessons learned of a generation. As a side note, the famous picture of the girl screaming over the body of Jeffery Miller was taken by a student photographer named John Filo, which won him a Pulitzer Prize. The girl was a 14 y/o runaway from Florida who had befriended a couple of the the students that were hit that day: Sandra Scheuer who was killed, and Alan Canfora who was wounded. I hope this helps you understand the song a bit more
@pitapanda8319
@pitapanda8319 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing more of the entire story. The protests had been far from peaceful and the National Guard was having rocks hurled at them. Still tragic, no matter what - but there is more to the story than "peaceful" protesting.
@gailenefuller8330
@gailenefuller8330 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the truth.
@thomvogan3397
@thomvogan3397 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was following the events on the news back then. This was a tragic result to an escalation of violence. As well as burning down the R.O.T.C. building as you stated, the protesters had also been throwing rocks at the National Guard for days before they fired. Although this in no way justifies the shootings, to call the protesters totally peaceful isn't an accurate representation
@gailenefuller8330
@gailenefuller8330 3 жыл бұрын
None of it was justified. All around heartbreaking. Some people just don't get it. They just didn't walk up and shoot.
@weezerptooie926
@weezerptooie926 3 жыл бұрын
They had broken windows downtown a few days earlier, but I never heard of the protesters throwing rocks at the Guard for days previous, just the day of the shootings. And walking around the area when I was there back then, I was hard pressed to find any, let alone enough, rocks to pose a threat to Guard. Additionally, none of the students even believed the guns were loaded with live ammunition. That was an ignorant assumption on their part. Personally, if I ever see a gun I assume it's loaded.
@mikefannon6994
@mikefannon6994 3 жыл бұрын
The protest was about Nixon's expansion of the Vietnam War into Cambodia. There were protests at colleges all around the country. I was a student at UT Knoxville and took part. To learn the facts about Kent State read Michener's book "Kent State."
@dawnjensen5615
@dawnjensen5615 3 жыл бұрын
My dad was wounded in Cambodia the day after the Kent State incident.
@mikefannon6994
@mikefannon6994 3 жыл бұрын
Hope your dad made it home Dawn.
@dawnjensen5615
@dawnjensen5615 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikefannon6994 he did. But, he passed away from Agent Orange related lung and brain cancer on March 20 2008. Age 57.
@crashoverride4881
@crashoverride4881 Жыл бұрын
I was 20 when this happened, in the military and overseas. Such turbulent times. A song for the ages. It's a great song to this day.
@kennethkauzlaric8948
@kennethkauzlaric8948 3 жыл бұрын
I was a little boy when this happened at Kent State. Growing up with the Vietnam War in your livingroom every night and then this, was traumatizing. I remember saying my prayers ever night, wishing the war would end so that I wouldn't be drafted when I turned 18.
@JackCerro
@JackCerro 3 жыл бұрын
Joni Mitchell painted the album cover.
@karlsmith2570
@karlsmith2570 3 жыл бұрын
And Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young did a cover of one of Joni's songs
@justaguy2365
@justaguy2365 3 жыл бұрын
Those folks were all friends in the Laurel canyon era. They all lived near one another
@matthewdrake4385
@matthewdrake4385 3 жыл бұрын
CSN&Y covered Woodstock written by Joni, who also dated either Graham Nash or Stephen Stills.
@karlsmith2570
@karlsmith2570 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewdrake4385 I thought the song's title was "Stardust"
@matthewdrake4385
@matthewdrake4385 3 жыл бұрын
Karl, the line " we are Stardust, we are golden" comes from Woodstock. Interesting fact, Joni didn't play the festival, but saw footage of it at a hotel and wrote it a few days later.
@AI-mg3hy
@AI-mg3hy 3 жыл бұрын
Jamel if you are interested in that time in history you should check out the Vietnam documentary Ken Burns made. There was so much going on back then, it's a lot more complicated than soldiers following orders killed innocent people. That's what happened, but knowing why it happened I think helps us understand why we are the way we are today.
@gailenefuller8330
@gailenefuller8330 3 жыл бұрын
Great documentary
@ginaheller333
@ginaheller333 3 жыл бұрын
Soooo good! And a great education from the great Ken Burns!
@julieharden2433
@julieharden2433 3 жыл бұрын
The most surprising thing I learned from that documentary is that the Vietnam occupation actually started in the 40s when the US let support to the French who were trying to re-conquer Vietnam. I was truly stunned about the timing, because up until then, I always associated the Vietnam War with the 60s and 70s.
@SAVikingSA
@SAVikingSA 3 жыл бұрын
@@julieharden2433 It's one of the longest wars in human history, certainly the longest in post-Napoleonic modern warfare. The Vietnamese also resisted Japanese occupation through force. Over 30 years of constant warfare. 6 years after the US withdrew, in 1979, China invaded them and retreated after heavy losses.
@dickhurtz1862
@dickhurtz1862 2 жыл бұрын
My Mother witnessed this tragedy every year we remembered. Even today I still remember her telling us children about it.
@edcpike
@edcpike Жыл бұрын
Just love your reactions to the oldies. I remember when Ohio state happened and this song soon came out. It was the start of my protesting the war. 65 and still protesting.
@tcskeels2744
@tcskeels2744 3 жыл бұрын
So much has changed while so much has not. Events like Kent State and My Lai caused the military to empathize obeying lawful orders and how the ‘just following orders defense’ doesn’t apply. But the militarization of the police with their ‘qualified immunity’ has negated some of this. I’ll encourage everyone to watch “The Trial of the Chicago Seven” on Netflix for another example.
@glenndespres5317
@glenndespres5317 3 жыл бұрын
I remember reading Tales of Hoffman about the trial of the Chicago 7. Nobody reading it today would believe it. Bobby Seale bound and gagged, which CSN&Y sang about on 4 Way Street - Chicago
@billmaier9314
@billmaier9314 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the day artists would dive right into politically charged issues without worrying about ruining their brand, this happened on campus at Kent State. If you like this one check out the Doors Five to One
@meyerweinstock9567
@meyerweinstock9567 3 жыл бұрын
Although not as emotional, Steve Miller's "Jackson-Kent Blues" also covers this sort of thing.
@jena6587
@jena6587 3 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna have to check these out. If there was another one. Why don’t we know about it? I’m from an hour away from Kent.
@mikeljones4673
@mikeljones4673 3 жыл бұрын
We need more music like this. Now. Today. The tyranny going on makes Kent State look like nothing. We are in a war. And most don't even realize it.
@danwagner1702
@danwagner1702 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Ohio and remember this all too well. There were 9 others wounded. A couple of years later, a band wanted to play this song in my highschool's talent show but were not permitted to..."too controversial".
@ralphfiligenzi6180
@ralphfiligenzi6180 3 жыл бұрын
If I heard a song with this much undeniable feel, melody and great lyrics now a days I would probably faint.
@serpounce6531
@serpounce6531 3 жыл бұрын
Neil Young wrote this song after seeing photos in Life magazine. A very sad day in American history, National Guard troops fired 67 shots in 13 seconds. Two of those killed were hundreds of feet from the protest and not even participating in it.
@Vonolshish
@Vonolshish 3 жыл бұрын
Graham Nash was on Howard Stern a few years ago and said that Neil went out in the woods and wrote it in about an hour.
@bwana-ma-coo-bah425
@bwana-ma-coo-bah425 3 жыл бұрын
Pity he couldn't write any thing about the watts riots.
@stshnie
@stshnie 3 жыл бұрын
@@bwana-ma-coo-bah425 Not sure it was his job to chronicle every single American state killing of its own people in song. In any case, in 1965 he was touring Canada (his home country) as a solo singer and wasn’t well known. For songs about Watts: see Frank Zappa, Phil Ochs and Cypress Hill.
@stshnie
@stshnie 3 жыл бұрын
@@bwana-ma-coo-bah425 Ironically, thanks to another comment, I see that another Canadian, Gordon Lightfoot, wrote Black Day in July about the Detroit riots of 1967. It was banned on the radio in 30 states. The problem ain’t the songwriters - the problem is the folks doing the killing.
@bwana-ma-coo-bah425
@bwana-ma-coo-bah425 3 жыл бұрын
@@stshnie yes he did. 100 million points to you. However the problem I have is why does a white guy write a song about 4 white dead in Ohio get recognition and radio air play, and when a white guy writes a song about killings in Chicago of many blacks it gets banned. Is this white still America at it again? The problem isn't the people doing the killings. The problem is America allows new born babies to have access to a gun. Here is the difference between Americans and Canadians. Canadians see a kill kill movie and see it as just that. A movie. Americans see the same movie and see it as reality. The reason Americans are nice in the hospitality industry has 2 reasons. 1. you work on tips 2. you fear that the person might pull a gun out and shoot you. Seems to me white America ha a lot to answer to.
@kmwwrench
@kmwwrench Жыл бұрын
I was a senior in college when Kent State happened in 1970. It was a very tense week on campus after that - even though we were halfway across the country from there. Such a senseless tragedy. This song was everywhere as soon as it came out.
@paulbewlay4527
@paulbewlay4527 3 жыл бұрын
I was 9 years old, and lived in Kenmore Ohio, not far from Kent State, and I remember hearing the initial reports on the radio at home with my family; nobody really believed it was happening. There are many reports out on the why and how of it all, simply put: a true American tragedy. Thanks for revisiting it, and hopefully we all learned something, though these days it doesn't seem like people paid any more serious attention then than they do now.
@schrader21
@schrader21 3 жыл бұрын
I was only 12 this song came out but I had an older brother who was hit hard by this an explained the meaning to me. Still brings tears 50 years later. RIP bro, and to the all the YOUNG people involved in this tragedy.
@timp8843
@timp8843 3 жыл бұрын
The Vietnam War documentary by Ken Burns is a Good watch for understanding.
@sheilathailand1903
@sheilathailand1903 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't that an incredible series? Love his stuff.
@timp8843
@timp8843 3 жыл бұрын
@@sheilathailand1903 It sure was . I’m a son a Vietnam vet and my father lost his younger brother there in 71. My mother is quite liberal. I feel so much from all sides. Pride and sorrow for our servicemen and women who cared for them, disdain for politicians and respect for dissenters.
@juliettespain7994
@juliettespain7994 3 жыл бұрын
Chrissie Hyndes from the Pretenders went to Ohio State and one of ppl died was her friend. Her song depicts this. "My city was gone".
@LaurelsPeace
@LaurelsPeace 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for playing this song Jamel AKA Jamal. My sister Allison was one of the four student protesters killed at Kent State on May 4, 1970. She was a 19 year old Kent State Univ honor student protesting the Cambodian Invasion of the Vietnam War, just announced by President Nixon. The Ohio National Guardsmen at the command of the State of Ohio and federal government shot Allison dead around noon on campus. She faced a firing squad with M1 rifles yet she was unarmed. Neil Young's song Ohio set the record of being the fastest record to the public ever. Nonetheless it was censored on AM radio and in Vietnam. Sorry for your confusion about the details. You're unaware of the facts because the US government has never wanted you to know what happened at Kent State. Instead, they are still busy rewriting what occurred on May 4, 1970. On the other hand, Neil Young like so many still, want the truth to be known. Digging deep into this I found it was cointelpro at work at Kent State, just like Fred Hampton's murder five months earlier. It was a covert war and domestic battle against young people who resisted ... and who wanted peace. Four dead, nine wounded at Kent State University. Ten days later, two were killed, 12 wounded at Jackson State. In 2010 we formed the Kent State Truth Tribunal and in 2014 we took Kent State before the United Nations where we continue our work for Kent State peace and healing.
@anneboban2002
@anneboban2002 Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry about your sister. I'll never forget that day.
@zacknicley8150
@zacknicley8150 3 жыл бұрын
When all you’ve got is a hammer everything looks like a nail.
@Elizabeth-yp8re
@Elizabeth-yp8re 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Our young and middle aged men and women have just spent the last 20 years, and counting in combat zones with little more than that hammer you speak of, at least I think. Profound, and I am hugely critical. Succinct. Whether you meant it to be or not. T Y!☮️❤️
@zacknicley8150
@zacknicley8150 3 жыл бұрын
@@Elizabeth-yp8re Oh, I meant it to be.
@mikehenson819
@mikehenson819 3 жыл бұрын
And I think you just hit it square on the head with that comment.
@meyerweinstock9567
@meyerweinstock9567 3 жыл бұрын
Rocket: Scrolling down, this was the one that made me shiver. Very appropriate. -from a retired college professor
@Elizabeth-yp8re
@Elizabeth-yp8re 3 жыл бұрын
@@zacknicley8150 Well said.☮️
@cyndybensema7189
@cyndybensema7189 3 жыл бұрын
This happened when I was a freshman in high school. Crazy times, but great music. My friends were wearing bracelets of POW or MIA soldiers with their info on it and they were supposed to wear them until they were found. It was tense. Friends had older brothers in Viet Nam. I never understood war and I still don't.
@pennynuttall2150
@pennynuttall2150 3 жыл бұрын
I still have my bracelet
@cyndybuiniskis1486
@cyndybuiniskis1486 3 жыл бұрын
I was just a year older than you. I'll never forget the shock and horror of that news. That and watching my mom scan the faces of boys in Vietnam shown on the evening news are embedded in my brain. Mom was searching for my brother John. I think she barely slept the 13 months he was gone. And then we saw the Kent State coverage. Incredible music, tough times.
@welshwitch2126
@welshwitch2126 3 жыл бұрын
I was a sophomore in high school and my brother was in a field hospital in Vietnam in 1970. He rode in the helicopters picking up dead/wounded from battlefield. He has never talked about it in front of me. I think he probably confided in our dad, but definitely not our mother. I still have my POW bracelet. I did a google search for the name on my bracelet a few years ago. He survived the war, but has since passed away.
@Brighid45
@Brighid45 3 жыл бұрын
We have an MIA bracelet sitting on our bookshelf. It still gets worn to protests.
@marionrose2669
@marionrose2669 3 жыл бұрын
My cousin still wear her MIA bracelet.😢
@guido5355
@guido5355 Жыл бұрын
It was a student protest at Kent State University. National guard opened fire on students from a distance. No one was ever held accountable.
@mbowerman2018
@mbowerman2018 3 жыл бұрын
With all that has happened in the last 5 years, heck the last two, where are the bands and songs like this today? Was a peaceful protest. They did get close to the guard, flowers in gun barrels type of close. There was a disturbance near the ROTC building, but nothing near the shots fired. Sad day. Love CSNY, and later CSN. One of my favorite groups. Love your work Jamel, glad I found your feed!
@michaelbuhl4250
@michaelbuhl4250 3 жыл бұрын
The shooting this song is about also inspired the band DEVO to form. They were Kent State students and were there when the National Guard opened fire. The incident also inspired Chrissie Hynde to move from Ohio to London, where she eventually formed The Pretenders.
@kathybwell
@kathybwell 3 жыл бұрын
DEVO!
@Cifer77
@Cifer77 3 жыл бұрын
OOooooooooo man, so much history behind this song. The Kent State Massacre, the U.S. looked a hell of a lot like it was going to repeat that mistake in 2020.
@lindawilliams2211
@lindawilliams2211 3 жыл бұрын
No, 1/6/21. That is how we felt then too. All for F'ing power.
@dawnadriana1764
@dawnadriana1764 3 жыл бұрын
Vietnam. Boys in my senior class being drafted out of high school if they couldn't afford college. Nixon, a truly despicable, corrupt president. Many that came home were so damaged it was heartbreaking. Our music, our sorrow... Kent State personified the insanity of the time. And I still weep when I think about my best friend's brother, who returned from Vietnam a shadow of his former self. Our music was our comfort, our identity, and our solace. Thanks Jamel... xo
@Ishie1013
@Ishie1013 3 жыл бұрын
I was chatting with one of my college professors back when I was in college in California. He refused to fail male students during the Vietnam war because he said "I'm not going to hand out a death sentence because a kid doesn't go to class."
@carrieb5711
@carrieb5711 Жыл бұрын
You speak the truth 💯
@surfwriter8461
@surfwriter8461 Жыл бұрын
The song remains powerful to this day--like an anthem or a protest song taken to the limit. The situation portrayed was at Kent State Univ where soldiers had been sent to quell protests of the Vietnam war and its expansion. Protestors were not armed but were sometimes throwing stuff at the troops who seemed massing against them and stood for the corrupt Nixon govt and its immoral war policy. David Crosby described the origin of the song in an interview with Bob Costas in 1991: He said that he and Neil Young were sitting on the porch with guitars, David was handed a copy of Life magazine with the photo of the young woman kneeling over the dead body of a girl who had been shot and with arms outstretched seemed to be screaming with grief and disbelief at what happened. He and Neil continued looking at the photo and becoming more emotional about it. Crosby says Neil immediately started composing the song, very simple at that point, and Crosby tried to get him to flesh it out. Before long, it was written and Neil felt it needed to be recorded immediately. So David called to Graham Nash, made arrangements to book a studio and they all went there to record it asap, releasing it within two weeks because of the timely and urgent quality of this.
@timothymunger3186
@timothymunger3186 3 жыл бұрын
The way I remember it, it was a tense standoff and the protesters were peacefully moving toward the national Guard line, and one of the National guard troops panicked and opened fire. Such a tragedy. When you review these songs, please remember the context of the times. The struggle for racial equality was going on at the same time as the escalation in Vietnam. Southern Democrats were opposed to the civil rights amendment of 1964, that the Republicans helped pass. Lyndon Johnson sent more and more troops into Vietnam. By the time Nixon was elected, the US was heavily invested. Then Martin Luther King was was killed and Bobby Kennedy was killed a few months later. Back then young men were being drafted into the military. it was not a voluntary military like it was today. Young people could not vote until the age of 21 back then. We were also in the midst of the cold war and the fear of nuclear war. We had duck and cover drills in grade school. The tension of all these things had been building for nearly a decade. These protest songs had an incredible impact. Before all the computer stuff and cell phones, music was a lot of our voice, our way to express what we were feeling. And yet so much creativity and beauty as we thought our world was falling apart. I think "What About Me" by Quicksilver Messenger Service encapsulates those times better than most songs.
@lovetocheerx0x0
@lovetocheerx0x0 3 жыл бұрын
Crosby, Stills, and. Nash were great by themselves, but when Young joined they were phenomenal! What a great song!! Soundtracks of my life ❤️❤️❤️!
@tripgreat
@tripgreat Жыл бұрын
I lived not terribly far from Kent State. I was 10 years old. I remember the headlines. The protesters apparently threw bottles and bricks. Why the National Guard had real bullets, instead of rubber bullets, I don't know. I don't know if that was an option. Joe Walsh was a local musician, and Allison was a friend of his. I heard him interviewed by Steve and Garry on WLUP(Chicago) in the 80's about it. He was trying to get a memorial made at Kent State. "All in The Family" was a comedy, but showed the culture war going on. Young people against the Vietnam War vs. their parents, who still trusted the government(before Watergate), and had fought in WW2, and thought it was patriotic to fight against communism. They had seen the worst of Mao and Stalin. Nobody was wrong, they just had very different perspectives. Apparently, the National Guard panicked at Kent State and opened fire. The song still makes me cry.
@sharondavid-melly1498
@sharondavid-melly1498 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for caring. They were just kids protesting against the Vietnam War.☮️
@billstigliano5700
@billstigliano5700 3 жыл бұрын
Neil Young read the headline in the paper while hanging out with Dave Crosby. Left the room, wrote this and came back in 45 minutes. was a single the next week
@Doggeslife
@Doggeslife 3 жыл бұрын
Even though it's a CSN&Y song, Neil wrote this one himself.
@hubertharvey2820
@hubertharvey2820 2 жыл бұрын
In 20 minutes.
@judypadgett6256
@judypadgett6256 3 жыл бұрын
My senior year in high school, I picked up a magazine and on the cover a dead Kent State student. My eyes have been open since then.
@briandenny5820
@briandenny5820 Жыл бұрын
It’s an anthem to our generation! It was an anti war protest. And the national guard opened fire on a big group of college students. The guard members should of been charged for the students murders! My oldest brother was murdered in Nam on 1/29/1968. He didn’t want to go but he put his big boy boots on and did his time. It cost him his 21 year old life. It was yesterday to me! Godspeed to all that served!
@brainsareus
@brainsareus 3 жыл бұрын
There was also a similar tragedy at Jackson State College, which was a black college, so it got a lot less press; and, no famous song was written about it.
@danduntz9112
@danduntz9112 3 жыл бұрын
No arrests, nothing, even though it was said that the barrage of bullets was completely unwarranted and shouldn’t of happened. Those in the 35+ officers should’ve been held responsible for killing those students. They didn’t stand a chance.
@EdwardGregoryNYC
@EdwardGregoryNYC 3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to look this up. Thank you.
@michaelpdawson
@michaelpdawson 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe not a really famous song, but the Steve Miller Band did an absolutely killer track called "Jackson-Kent Blues."
@andythrush3341
@andythrush3341 3 жыл бұрын
I've been suggesting Jackson-Kent to Jamal for awhile!!
@leemurray4158
@leemurray4158 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, just read about it for the first time. Only 11 days after Kent State
@kirpalite
@kirpalite 3 жыл бұрын
It was an absolutely horrible thing that happened. I was on a nearby campus the next day, and armed men on horses were riding us down and yelling at us that school was closed for the school year, and we were not even protesting. It was like that all over the country. What's going on now is a really different thing, not better or worse, just different.
@rshrsh5420
@rshrsh5420 3 жыл бұрын
I had an aunt that attended Kent State University at the time and being born and raised here can tell you the state was really divided at that time. A total of four uncles fought in Vietnam, luckily they all came back. One interesting fact is that Neil Young actually wrote this song out in the woods with his guitar in one hour
@donh432
@donh432 3 жыл бұрын
Check out "What About Me" by Quicksilver Messenger Service. And "Get Together" by The Youngbloods. Great songs, from the same era, about much needed Peace and Love!!
@itzel1735
@itzel1735 3 жыл бұрын
This is a better song. But a similar song is “Black Day in July” by Gordon Lightfoot. Kent State was shocking. But there were more tragic occurrences with worse outcomes that have been forgotten.
@kenstanley2567
@kenstanley2567 3 жыл бұрын
I have been requesting Black Day In July for almost a year now. Fingers crossed he gets to it soon lol
@MsBenlane
@MsBenlane 3 жыл бұрын
students were shot at a black college around this time
@itzel1735
@itzel1735 3 жыл бұрын
@@MsBenlane it was all so sad.
@mikefannon6994
@mikefannon6994 3 жыл бұрын
MsBenlane - that was Jackson State College. I still have a t-shirt stenciled "Remember Kent and Jackson State."
@jena6587
@jena6587 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikefannon6994 Shirts? Why was this the only one talked about? ( I know I get it) but why don’t they talk about this now??
@jcartwrt
@jcartwrt 3 жыл бұрын
The girl referred to in the song was not even in the protest. She was some distance away and killed by a bullet from the National Guard probably fired over the heads of the actual protesters.
@chrishowell199
@chrishowell199 3 жыл бұрын
Friendly fire?
@kiplambel4052
@kiplambel4052 3 жыл бұрын
As I recall, she was 15, and just visiting the campus. Had nothing to do with the protest, but wasn't very far away.
@JimiBurleigh
@JimiBurleigh 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that was Sandra Scheuer who was just walking between classes when she was killed.
@kurtsaxton9665
@kurtsaxton9665 3 жыл бұрын
None of the 4 killed were part of the protest that day.
@weezerptooie926
@weezerptooie926 3 жыл бұрын
@@kiplambel4052 If you're referring to the girl in the famous photo, she was a 14 y/o runaway from Florida who had befriended some of the students, including two that had been killed. When she was returned home, the Florida governor labeled her a Commie. Such were the times.
@neilphelan145
@neilphelan145 3 жыл бұрын
May 4th 1970. Kent State University in Ohio. This event shook the nation. It shouldn't have happened but it did. It changed the way many Americans thought about the President and the government in general.
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