Cross-Table CUE BALL CONTROL System ... A Powerful Technique

[@trailerwookie]

I don't know if I have enough room in my brain for this extra pool knowledge. Amazing explanation as always!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

The most important simple thing to remember is: a 1/2-ball hit on a corner-pocket hanger goes to the side. Most of the rest can be figured out from that.

[@godjhaka7376]

That's just how Dave and some folk brains work. They make what is very easy things for many others very difficult but again, that's just how their brain works lol. Pool is an easy game but you'd never know by the length of every Dave video and all the mathematical equations he uses 🤣

[@DrDaveBilliards]

@@godjhaka7376 If pool were easy, everybody would be awesome. This game is so fun because it is very difficult to master, and there is always something new to learn.

[@Regoriroger]

​@@DrDaveBilliards if an object ball is frozen to a rail, is it a legal shot to lag the cue ball onto it, having the cue ball contact that same rail, and nothing else, or does there need to be another rail contact?

[@DrDaveBilliards]

@@Regoriroger Under the WPA “official rules of pool,” all that is required is that something be driven to a cushion after OB contact. If the OB is frozen to the cushion, the CB (or some other ball ) needs to contact a cushion (any cushion) after hitting the OB.

[@raferb]

IMO, learning how to predict cue ball path after contact with object ball is the best way to improve your game. Thanks for revealing more secrets of the universe Dave!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Agreed, assuming good potting success. For those interested, I have lots of good videos and info on this topic here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue-ball-control/

[@jasonnieuwenhuis7995]

More gold from Dr. Dave! Thanks coach!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thank you, and you're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)

[@HillbillyIslandLife]

Hail to the King! Dr. Dave, The King of Online Pool Lessons!!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thanks!

[@poolhustlersinc]

I'm glad you put the 3-cushion example in there too. It's one of my favorite games for practice.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I wish I had convenient access to a table. I am sure I would enjoy it.

[@poolhustlersinc]

@@DrDaveBilliards I'm very fortunate. I have a pool hall 5 minutes from my house. They have many pool, snooker, and carom tables.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

@@poolhustlersinc That is fortunate. I hope you full take advantage of it.

[@RelentlessSun]

@@DrDaveBilliards Mile High Billiards has a Gabriel's table. If you ever make it down to Arvada, I'd love to play with you.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

@@RelentlessSun Thanks for the invite.

[@OGDailylama]

Great work Dave. This one is going in my “save for later” so I can watch it from time to time. Having the donuts on the table while going through these drills actually helps warm up the old eyes & angles.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I hope you find it useful.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

*Contents:* 0:00 - Intro 1:39 - Basic System 3:10 - Speed Effects 3:48 - System Shifts 5:15 - Distance Effects 6:32 - Approach Angle Effects 7:26 - Sidespin Effects 8:47 - Cut Effects 9:43 - Combined Effects 10:36 - Wrap Up *CORRECTION:* - at 3m3s, that is not an "effective safety" in 9-ball because I would need to shoot at the 6-ball next (since I pocketed the 5); although, it would be a good called safety in 8-ball, where my opponent would need to shoot at the stripe next. *Supporting Resources:* - pocket hanger resource page: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue-ball-control/hanger/ - CB control resource page: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue-ball-control/ - Video Encyclopedia of Pool Shots (VEPS): drdavebilliards.com/videos/veps/ - 3-cushion shot-example and formula videos: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYiTi4qsocSag8U, kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGS6nWOrrdR4ask, kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2LYfJmjh6-bq5o *Subscribe to Dr. Dave's KZbin Channel:* kzbin.info

[@hardcoregamer4031]

I've had stayed up all night before watching his vids I've learned so much thank you Dr.Dave

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I’m glad you’ve found my stuff helpful.

[@str8up_15]

Finally 🙌🏽this is a video I was begging you to make for a long time now .Now I’m going to try to carom a hanging 9 using a cushion. Thank u

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I’m glad I finally delivered. Have fun practicing the shots.

[@Crazywaffle5150]

I keep watching pool videos to improve. However, I come back to you and get the best information. I love your more "scientific" analytical approach to billiard's.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thanks for the comment. I'm glad you like my stuff.

[@dvd_real]

Another great video, Dave. Your channel is invaluable for the lovers of the game. My brother started playing recently and he loves them. Keep up the good work!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thanks! I hope your brother learns enough to give you some competition soon.

[@StunDan]

"Memory" is a huge asset in anything you do - in anything.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

To use this system effectively, it does help to remember a few things.

[@deathshead357]

Thank you so much. This is the video I've been waiting for. I've been playing for 5 years now, every day and I have watched over a hundred videos on pool (a lot of them yours), but this is just what I need....to be able to control the cue ball coming off the cushion. I am going to throw myself into studying this system on my table and getting it zeroed in. Thanks again.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I hope it helps your game. FYI, other useful CB control videos and techniques can be found here: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/cue-ball-control/ billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue-ball-control/ Enjoy!

[@ap3xmath123]

Hey dr dave with this video you have really enhance my knowledge more. I was always corcerned but aware of how this system works but i often make a mistake because this type of practice is not is my repetoire of shots i mainly use feel and hope but thank you much heading on yhe table to really work on this. I saw the post on my feed a few days ago and promise that i will watch in full atleast three times. Thanks again dr love from jamaica

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I’m glad you like the video. I hope you can put the info to good use.

[@ezekiel763]

Love this video. It turns a shot which ends runs for most players into a strength.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Well stated.

[@thebreak4081]

Just when you think that you know enough Billiards, Dr Dave drops another masterclass lesson

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I hope you find it useful.

[@thebreak4081]

@@DrDaveBilliards definitely, sir. Thank you very much

[@henma1]

Dr. Dave, you're the best! Thank you for sharing your pool knowledge!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thank you, and you’re welcome.

[@apexpredatorbilliardstraining]

This is so unbelievable dr Dave I went on the table today and practice what you explain and I feel so good! Finally I can play more pin 📌 point position and break out! I even watch the billiards link you put in the description and oh my oh my it’s was incredible thank you sooooo much dr Dave

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I’m glad you found everything helpful.

[@apexpredatorbilliardstraining]

@@DrDaveBilliards I don’t know how much anybody else feel but I have this secret that will hurt my opponents in the future

[@elBandi89]

Probably the best video up to this date! Keep up the good work!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thank you. I plan to try. FYI, what I consider all my best videos to date are listed in my order in this playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLH9d4KFY28XtWHkg5DKDUfpbI0ry48bsr Check them out. I think quite a few of them are better (more useful to more people) than my latest video. I would be curious to know which you think is best after viewing some of the top ones.

[@YassirFarid]

The best tutorial for cue ball control ❤

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thanks. FYI, this one is very helpful also: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIG0dnWul6esepY

[@klzhan2478]

OMG ! What a lesson. It's really a game changed for me.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

@@klzhan2478 I’m glad you liked it. I hope it helps you win some games.

[@IOnianStreams]

Very useful follow up to the reference lines in the Pocket Hangers video. Thanks, Dr. Dave!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thank you, and you're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)

[@SpartX7]

Love all of your video explanations. Applying this knowledge on the table made me a better player. Thanks a ton.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I’m glad to hear it. You’re welcome.

[@MikeyAlan]

Hi Dave you're an awesome individual. I've watched some of your videos in the past and came back to your channel again. I've always enjoyed playing pool and feel like you could definitely give me a better insight on any areas that I lack in knowledge. I never realized, just how in depth you go with your intelligence and knowledge on the subject. Thanks for the videos and everything else. If you have a way to somehow talk direct that would be amazing.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thank you, and you’re welcome. I’m glad you like my stuff. FYI, anytime you have questions about any pool topic, you can almost always find the answer here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/

[@breeze1536]

Quite useful for safeties shots as well. Great lesson as always !

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Agreed. I should have done more safety examples. Thanks. I’m glad you liked the video.

[@jamesnewcomer5963]

Physics brain buzzing!!!! Such a great system from the GOAT!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thanks. Don't try to learn it all in one viewing. Practice one thing at a time.

[@2869may]

Thank you for this great information...! I can clearly see how much this can improve position play.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

You’re welcome. I’m glad you found it helpful.

[@hanspw]

WOW, just wow. Wot a tremendous great vid and explanation. Huge help for calculation the CB path. BIG thx Dr 👌👌👊💪👑

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thank you, and you're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)

[@hanspw]

🧀​@@DrDaveBilliards👍👍👍

[@zanethind]

Thank god you made this video. Because I usually under hit the hanger half ball hit type of shot or over hit it. I ever rarely hit it at the right speed

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Yep. The speed is critical.

[@zanethind]

@@DrDaveBilliards yeah

[@hardtimesbbq5265]

Brilliant, maybe now I can stop being surprised by scratching in that side pocket, the number of times I’ve lost games because of that exact scratch! Hopefully never scratch again on that shot

[@DrDaveBilliards]

@@hardtimesbbq5265 Agreed. If you scratch in the side now, it is all on you. :)

[@jesleysnipes3758]

Dave, great video! Thanks for sharing

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thanks for the comment. I'm glad you liked it.

[@andrijabujosevic1295]

Great one! Thanks for this. This for sure have to be practiced.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thank you, and you’re welcome. Definitely worth practicing (like everything else).

[@luisgonzalez-ot9mm]

Excellent video Dr Dave. Thank-you very much for your great job. P, S: could you do a detailed video on swerve? Short, medium, long distance and different speeds and different amount of side spin. With your magic high speed camera? I know it's a lot of job but it would be precious. Thank-you soooo much.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thanks. I already have lots of videos dealing with swerve here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/effects/ and massé shots here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/masse/ And the whole purpose for my System for Aiming With Sidespin (SAWS) is to compensate one's aim when using any amount of sidespin for shots of any speeds and distances. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/sidespin/aim/saws/ Check out everything. There is a lot there.

[@erickort1987]

dave,your the best,i love your pool tutorials,they help me out greatly

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I'm glad to hear it. Thanks for the comment.

[@erickort1987]

@@DrDaveBilliards the cue im using now is a duffiren buttend with jacoby kielwood shaft,technicaly its a sneaky pete cue,im looking to buy a buttend same color tone as the shaft,the Jacoby shaft is nice,i still have my jacoby pro ultra 11.75 shaft with kamui SS tip,i get nice english with it

[@ap3xmath123]

I cant st commenting on how good this video is this is my third time watching

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I’m glad to hear it. It must mean the video contains lots of useful info.

[@CocoboloCowboy]

More good info from Dave.🏆

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thanks again, CC.

[@naonao76]

Awesome knowledge! Dr. Dave, I have an unrelated question regarding nine ball rules I am hoping you can help me clarify. When a player breaks a nine ball rack, legally pockets a ball, AND another object ball flies out of the table, is that a foul (loss of turn)?

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Jumping a ball off the table is a foul on any shot. The opponent gets ball in hand. FYI, all detailed rules like this can be found via the videos, links, and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/

[@elmomo52]

Bon matin. Le Québec francophone apprécie le partage de votre savoir.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

You're welcome. Thank you for the French greeting.

[@MPL_14.1]

Very cool!! Thanks Dr. Dave!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I’m glad you liked it. You’re welcome.

[@terrythomas4407]

Great info and visuals. Thanks

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thank you, and you’re welcome.

[@robertkerr229]

This is super. But can't get it to work unless I hit thinner 1/16 or 1/8 as you suggest. Exact half-ball hit with a tip of top, maybe I'm hitting to hard, the CB freezes coming off the hit with ball and rail. If I slow it down it does this effect less, but doesn't have enough speed to come back across the table towards the long corner (or side on the side-side shots). Then a friend tries it and hits it nearly perfect. He watched me hit a lot and can't figure out what's different. Something in my stroke or speed. Anyway, good reference system. I'll adjust it to my actual results for usefulness in game.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

You are probably using too much speed. Also make sure your tip is high enough to get full-roll topspin.

[@srw6046]

great video; in playing on 9,8,7' tables; what, if any little differences our you experiencing?

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thanks. See: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/strategy/bar-box/

[@stephenborrill4231]

Nice video as always DrDaveBilliards but I was confused at the end of 'Basic Systems' about the 9 ball safety.. Am I missing something or did you snooker yourself?

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thanks. Yep. I made an oopsie with that “9-ball safety.” See the correction in the video description or pinned comment or during replay.

[@CosminIvan]

I have a question... At 3:04 when you play an "effective 9 ball safety", is that really a safety, or did you just snookered yourself? I know that in 8 ball you can call a safe shot and pass the turn to the opponent even if you've potted a ball. Is there such rule in 9 ball as well?

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I made an oopsy. See the "CORRECTION" in the video description or pinned comment.

[@logic368]

Thank you for the lesson Dr. Dave! Can you explain why the 30° rule doesn’t seem to work as well for these hangers? Like, why do they go roughly 45° instead?

[@DrDaveBilliards]

… because the CB doesn’t have time to curve forward before hitting the cushion.

[@logic368]

@@DrDaveBilliards oh man, thank you. I always suspected this was the case but couldn’t confirm until now. You are a savior for pool.

[@puboh]

did you use a new shaft Dr.Dave?

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Good observation Pubo. I have two 12.4 Revos. I switch between them when I am waiting to get a tip replaced. This one has the white vault plate. I don't really notice the difference.

[@MJ18883]

Great video!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thanks!

[@StunDan]

hey. I left many comments in the past under "a not limit person": so, video idea: but that will take several tables to film or it has to be done over a period of one year or so. it could actually be a series now that I think about it. so, obviously the balls, especially the cue ball since it is always the main focus, reacts differently depending on cloth condition. you can't play the same way, or have the same shot selection or shot execution selection on different cloth condition. you adjust accordingly because you know the balls and especially the cue ball reacts differently. You get where this is going. pick 50 or so different shots and execute them on different cloth conditions. see where the cue ball ends up on each shot. banks (object ball). kicks, 2 rail kicks, 3-rail kicks, draws, and whatever else you can think of to show the difference between different conditions. maybe you can narrow it down to three. 1. brand new (this could be let's say up to 20 hours of table time). 2. somewhat used (20 - 60 hours). and 3,(60+ hours). note, I randomly chose the "hours" it basically is 1, brand new. 2. somewhat used. 3. used a lot. must test them with same cleanliness of balls and same levels of humidity and temperature. you already know that just worth throwing it out there. peace out.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Good idea. I’ll add it to my list.

[@9livespool]

Great stuff!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thanks! This one was fun to work on (and excellent practice).

[@christang9406]

Hi, do you think the ball quality matters? im using replica one, r u using original fullset? whatever the brand is

[@DrDaveBilliards]

It shouldn't matter much, assuming the ball sizes and weights are close.

[@jackslover107]

Dr Dave, I have a major problem pocketing object balls frozen to the rail. I used to be able to pocket most when the cut angle was maybe 15 degrees, but now I have issues with the cut angle being more than 25 degrees no matter the spin or lack of intentional spin. Another issue I have is with my new Cuetec cue with an 11.8 tip, I have issues hitting center ball. Should I get a 12.5 shaft? As always I appreciate any suggestions or recommendations you give.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

For help aiming rail cut shots, see the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/rail-cut/aiming/ Concerning the cue, I wouldn't change the shaft. The size should not affect center-ball alignment. Although, tip shape could be a factor per the video and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/cue-tip/size-and-shape/

[@jackslover107]

@@DrDaveBilliards Thank you Dr Dave. The shape on Cuetec is a dime.

[@theznooker]

hi, how to hold the grip on line of aim? while standing should the grip hand be already on line of aim above the right leg? seems that as i am getting down and my body turns my grip hand goes offline ??? tnx

[@DrDaveBilliards]

It can be helpful to keep the grip hand on the line of aim during the entire pre-shot routine, but as long as you end up in the right place, it doesn't really matter. For more info, see the videos and info here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/stance/advice/ billiards.colostate.edu/faq/pre-shot-routine/best-practices/

[@BabbittdaWabbitt]

Thanks!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thank you! I appreciate the support.

[@indianastoned8234]

Absolute legend

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thanks!

[@tackywacky99]

Wow. Ive been scratching in that middle pocket way too much and i had no idea why. So i hit more thick and the cue ball control is horrible. Now i know why

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I’m glad you got something useful from the video.

[@wdiddy1]

3:08 how is that a safety? Looks like you hooked yourself, isn't the 6 beside the 9 ball?

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I made an oopsy. See the "CORRECTION" in the video description or pinned comment.

[@tomburns890]

Where were all these great videos 40 years ago. Younger players have all these tips and visual videos to help them learn a lot fast than grinding out 10’s of thousands of hours on different tables.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I also wish I had access to all this info 40 years ago. But sometimes, when things seem easy, people don’t bother putting in the work.

[@williamwest7313]

All that grinding pays off when you play matches in different rooms and situations. What works with one set of equipment may be completely useless when conditions change. To say that an X hit with a certain spin will do Y is ballparking in the broadest way

[@tomburns890]

@@williamwest7313 exactly 1000%. nothing can take the place of 1000’s of hours of grinding it out on 100’s of different tables & conditions & all that experiance. When I play against others the difference in experiance is so obvious. Cheers

[@Mhmd_Amin33]

3:04 Safety!😂 It seems a good move to use when you got locked in, just say to your opponent that was a safety and let them take your turn.

[@jonathangoff8005]

I’m guessing he meant it could be used if the balls were in a different spot than they were when he shot them? You can’t play that safety in 9 ball. You just played safe on yourself! In certain 8 ball rules you can call “defense down” to make your ball and surrender your turn at the table, but that’s not a 9 ball option I’ve ever heard of.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I made an oopsy. See the "CORRECTION" in the video description or pinned comment.

[@SamuL147]

If you linked Kaci this video like a week earlier, he would have saved 150k and a trophy 😬

[@DrDaveBilliards]

That’s funny.

[@cameronhale5875]

@3:05 arent you hooking yourself and nor playing safe?

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Yep. See the "CORRECTION" in the video description or pinned comment.

[@judybradshaw9340]

Unfortunately in Australia we do not have the diamonds on our tables

[@DrDaveBilliards]

@@judybradshaw9340 You can still visualize them. The distance between pockets is 4 diamonds. It is easy to see half of this (2 diamonds) and half again (1 diamond).

[@zanethind]

My friend told me to get mid table even with this type of shot that's the most ideal place you want to be he said

[@DrDaveBilliards]

The middle of the table is good when there are balls to shoot from there. It is not so good when there is no shot from there.

[@zanethind]

@@DrDaveBilliards yeah that's what he was coaching me on

[@taqli]

3:05 effective nine ball safty, on yourself ?????🤯🤯🤯

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Oops.

[@Andrew-df9kt]

Looool. The comment was funny… the response was hilarious haha

[@jmmyjimmy106]

Maybe I'm an idiot, only been playing for a year but wouldn't you just be safeing yourself and not your opponent at 3:03 ?

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Yep. See the correction in the video description or pinned comment (or during replay on a PC).

[@stephensiler3854]

The real lesson starts at 7:26.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

The sidespin effects are important, but so are the other effects covered. There is a lot you can do without sidespin.

[@stephensiler3854]

@@DrDaveBilliards - poor wording on my part. Not disputing the value of the entire video. I simply found that portion the most enlightening.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

@@stephensiler3854 I’m glad to hear it.

[@patriciajrs46]

I like it better when the cue ball doesn't scratch.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Me too. That’s why it is important to be able to predict when a scratch is on … so you can do something to prevent it.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Regardless, the scratch shot drills in the video are useful to practice CB-direction consistency.

[@dougrobertson5907]

@@DrDaveBilliards Absolutely, you can do something to prevent it, or perhaps your opponent has a hanger/blocker in that pocket where you scratched, and so in the actual game situation you can use this new knowledge to remove your opponent's ball from the table. Thanks for all the great info, Dave, and keep it coming!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

@@dougrobertson5907 Good point. Thank you, and you’re welcome.

[@StunDan]

note to not-self: best way to watch this video is to take notes.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

… or just remember that a 1/2-ball hit on a pocket hanger goes to the side. Much of the system can be figured out from that.

[@__moose__]

👌

[@Sam-di8nm]

🔝

[@GGGenom]

3:03 Not the most effective nine-ball safety when you pot a ball to get there. You hooked yourself, mate

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Yep. See the CORRECTION in the video description or pinned comment.