Crowned Before Birth

[@areiaaphrodite]

And my first proclamation as King shall be a fresh nappie change followed by some light breastfeeding and then a very long nap. You are dismissed, Council.

[@chunellemariavictoriaespan8752]

This made my ice cream go up my nose🤦😅😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Areyousayingidontknowmyname]

Or Goo Goo Gah Gah 😂

[@cinna_sultan]

Imagine the baby talking and being like "Give me milk or die." 😳

[@thomaskeil1437]

Lindsey, Who were the Catholic relatives who were excluded from the line of succession before naming Sophia, Electress of Hanover and subsequently her son who became George I? The Act of Settlement (1701) guaranteed the line of succession of Britain. As a granddaughter of James I, Sophia was the choice to succeed after the death of Queen Anne. No doubt Sophia had Catholic relations between James I and herself who were excluded from succession.

[@LittleMissLounge]

It would be on par with that episode of the Twilight Zone where the little boy with god-like powers sends people who irritate him to "the cornfield."

[@knockeledup]

“He was intellectually disabled, but he was male.” You just summed up history in one great sentence.

[@jillydoom7921]

Ikr?! 😂

[@loricarter2394]

Could possibly also say that it is every man ever to be born, EVER lol

[@neopeter2998]

@@loricarter2394 not to be like a "sensitive snowflake" but this feels ableist

[@emilybarclay8831]

@@loricarter2394 haha sexism is so funny

[@banditman1986]

Imagine how a man would be attacked

[@ClashOftheSea]

Imagine marrying someone after you were warned that their family has a history of a horrible genetic disease and then blaming said spouse when the child is born with it.

[@jamellfoster6029]

That was selfish & just CRAZY...

[@januarysson5633]

That’s the level of privilege someone called “Your Majesty” at five years old must feel entitled to have.

[@diananoonen2262]

I guess he thought he was above it.

[@riverfrostwarriorcat9668]

Most of these people didn't get a choice as daughters were mostly seen as 'political tools'

[@jamellfoster6029]

@@riverfrostwarriorcat9668 True. In some countries, parents still arrange their kids' marriages which is sad...

[@DaughterofHebe]

I remember not believing an unborn baby can ever be crowned a monarch. I once asked my English teacher who taught us about the English royal family if a foetus can be considered a monarch and my entire class being shocked when she said yes, apparently they can I was just sharing a personal story and now the replies are having arguments about abortion. Beware if you want to read them

[@Summertimeislife]

*fetus

[@magesalmanac6424]

Summer, it has different spellings depending on where you live. Like color/colour

[@Lampebruder]

Yet women cannot have rights over their own body here in the US

[@mushroomfrog2100]

@@Summertimeislife foetus is still right, it’s mostly used in europe though

[@beefstew4698]

Then the Brits/Europeans should be adamantly pro-Life💪

[@rilianelucifen876]

It drives me a little nuts when people suggest that William and Mary didn't have children because William was gay. Whether or not he was attracted to men is up for debate, but both him and Mary desperately wanted children and the real reason they didn't have any was because Mary had a traumatic miscarriage early into their marriage that damaged her reproductive system and left her infertile. It's part of the reason they grew so close to their nephew even though they were feuding with Anne: they both adored children and would've wanted to be parents, regardless of what their sexual preferences were.

[@Emma88178]

And he could have been bi. People never bring that up.

[@theashwoodfaerie2]

I believe they both are bisexual. As Mary II definitely seemed to fall in love with a very close friend of hers. And Anne was definitely bisexual herself

[@HKduane]

I 100% agree with you

[@leahgraham1294]

“Though some may argue that a baby may make a better head of state that a politician” if that isn’t the truth

[@joycelynbrandon755]

Donald Trump was both a baby and a head of state who longed to become our dictator while destroying democracy. When will he finally be prosecuted?

[@januarysson5633]

Or just pick a name out of a hat. 🎩

[@Pandasu28]

"Time for bed sweetie" "You can't me what to do, I'm the King!"

[@n.e.barton1299]

Don't forget the Emperor Augustus' original heir was named Marcus Agrippa Postumus, meaning that he was born after his father died. You were named Postumus if your Parent died before you were born. Agrippa wasn't such a nice guy, and his Grandfather Caesar banished him and made Tiberius his heir.

[@Annie_Annie__]

That makes sense how “posthumous” has now come to mean “awarded after one’s death”. It started off that the baby came after the father’s death, then the word evolved to mean almost anything that comes after one’s death (that’s related to that person). It did make me blink the first time I heard of a historical figure being named that. Especially a king. It makes it sound like he was crowned king after he died, lol.

[@cinna_sultan]

You mean the youngest son of Marcus Vipsanius Agrippa and Julia the Elder? Postumus was ultimately executed by his own guards shortly after Augustus' death in AD 14. Postumus was known for being brutish, insolent, stubborn, and potentially violent. He possessed great physical strength and reportedly showed little interest in anything other than fishing. He resisted all efforts to improve his behavior, forcing Augustus to "abdicate" him from the Julii in AD 6 and banish him to a villa at Surrentum, near Pompeii. Augustus didn't like Julia the Elder either, she died of starvation after her own exile.

[@Colinop]

my favorite thing about john the posthumous is that he's not just "the posthumous", he's also "the first", because i guess john the second thought his legacy was so inspiring that he ought to be john too

[@beth7935]

That explains a LOT about John II! 🤣

[@toric6005]

Yay! So glad to see this video! I love how dead pan she can be. Totally straight while saying a pastry chef tried to assassinate the king of Spain 🤣

[@n.e.barton1299]

They were so rough back then, but Spanish pastries are so sweet and delicious.

[@rynthorn1551]

Love how Lindsay opened this video with a vicious dunk on babies.

[@delreybaby]

i feel like if anybody was crowned that young they would either lose their mind or be killed by courtiers

[@chrisgeenadriver1631]

Henry vi case in point.

[@jamellfoster6029]

True...

[@lilymarinovic1644]

Or evil uncles (Edward V). Then again, James VI and I became King of Scots very young and did OK.

[@anubratabit3027]

Shapur (described in this video) & Holy Roman Emperors Henry IV & Frederick II are the exceptions. They became strong autocrats who succesfully dominated the people around them.

[@p232830]

As a history lover, I love these videos. I'm wondering if you'll do any videos on the daily life of a Queen, King, Princess, Prince.

[@Rudero3]

Wait wait wait, King Alfonso XIII blamed his wife for the hemophilia? His mother warned him! This was common knowledge by then! That decision was on him lol. I mean, yes it came from her family, and everyone knew this. Like, I'm laughing at King Alfonso's indignation here, but like, that's also terrible because imagine how she felt, getting cheated on constantly and having sick children.

[@caitlinmarie8261]

As a mother of a newborn....I can definitely say that she is the queen of our kingdom 😅

[@AureusYoutube]

Congrats!

[@kevinloving3141]

Congratulations

[@clairefordzetterstrom9973]

Haha congrats!

[@alicianelson1252]

She just passed the diaper changing act didn’t she

[@samiam2003]

true

[@bloss6277]

ig this is worse than charles waiting for his turn lol

[@jennytimelord9689]

That's his karma. He wants to be king, and he wanted to have affairs on his wife like a king. He is very selfish and I believe the queen will hang on longer than him out of spite, since his selfish ways lead to Princess Diana's death

[@bloss6277]

@@jennytimelord9689 i hear she wants to skip him-

[@olliedwards8069]

He’s now king

[@gelbug1991]

Mary Queen of Scots missed making this list by 6 days.

[@saranemcova5448]

Unrelated, but why is it Scots and not Scotland? Forgive me if it is obvious, English is not my native language.

[@hellsjamfleas]

​@@saranemcova5448Arguably it's because the title predates the kingdom of Scotland. It's also just a different way of looking at it. The first king of England was "king of the English" and the Welsh refer to themselves as a people rather than land. It's the English who changed, possibly in an assertion to contested land or reflecting how important landownership was to their society.

[@t.wcharles2171]

The title of a Scottish monarch was generally King of Scots rather than King of Scotland

[@pedanticradiator]

​@@t.wcharles2171 the style "of Scotland" was also used by some monarchs

[@t.wcharles2171]

@@pedanticradiator , sometimes though I believe of Scots predominated.

[@kermit_fan5059]

this brings a whole new meaning to 'the head is crowning'

[@rabbithaver]

another excellent video from one of the best history educators on KZbin! you've done it again, Ms Holiday!

[@nevercatchwind]

I heard about baby king Jean of France from reading The Cursed Kings by Maurice Druion where the theory that baby king survived. I didn't know though that his sister became queen of Navarre and her descendant was the first Bourbon king of France

[@rukminikrishna1938]

Alfonso XIII was also King from the moment he was born

[@Annie_Annie__]

I also wasn’t aware that apparently their names were Jean and Jeanne? Who names siblings that? I guess it would be easy to know who you’re talking about since he was always “King Jean” and she was “Princess Jeanne” but it still seems like the names are needlessly similar.

[@cinna_sultan]

@@Annie_Annie__ It was France, the aristocracy did use female versions of male names often. They had similar names, some examples: Joseph - Josephine Gabriel - Gabrielle Jean - Jeanne Surprise for you, Anne was both a male and female name in France.

[@Annie_Annie__]

@@cinna_sultan I get that, it was more that siblings had names that sound virtually identical. So, like in a normal household, how would the kids know who is being called for when mom yells for them if their names sound the same? Seems like it would get confusing. But I guess in their houses it doesn’t get confusing because the boy is always called “Le Roi Jean” (I’m guessing, I don’t speak French) and the girl was probably called “La Princesse Jeanne”.

[@cinna_sultan]

@@Annie_Annie__ There are definitely distinctions and nicknames used to address them. But because France was very much revolved around etiquette etc people didn't call each other by their names. French princesses were addressed as 'Madame' and princes 'Monsieur.' The same style of address applied to other nobles as well. Madame Royale is the French title of Princess royal. France did have the title of Princess (Princesse du sang) and Madame la Princess but they used 'Madame' regardless.

[@Kerriangel]

I’ve been waiting for this one since your video on the longest reigning monarchs and I was so happy to see this notification on my phone.

[@Nikki-tx6kh]

As a Spanish person, I hear that the King was out there talking like the people of my neighbourhood in the 90s is really funny. Also, you should check Maria de las Mercedes, she was Princess of Asturias and heir to the throne for her whole life, as she died before Alfonso XIII married. Her husband married again and one of his second batch of children, another Maria de las Mercedes, married one of Alfonso's children, Juan, and the current King descends from them. I've always found that detail quite funny, you know, the second wife's daughter marrying the first wife's nephew.

[@ARedMagicMarker]

It's so wild that the regent killing off Alexander's son altered history so much because he was so vain and didn't want to give up the big chair. But his actions were expected with what he had done previously. Some princess couldn't keep it in her pants, and some regnant kept women off the throne for all time in France after maybe killing a baby. Yet another regent who made a huge change to better himself and only himself, but affected so many people and families centuries later, and could have very well been the small and gradually large-sized butterfly/domino effect that had a hand in ending the French monarchy entirely in the future. Who knows? And isn't it so funny that when people were waiting for a boy, they mostly got just that? So many wars, lost opportunities, and drama because nobody wanted girl-cooties on the throne. A stockpile of vintage royal porn. Crazy world.

[@chunellemariavictoriaespan8752]

At least that stock pillage of p*rn didn't reach our country's ears or the Rizalistas and propagandists would have a field day with that😂😂😂

[@ARedMagicMarker]

@@chunellemariavictoriaespan8752 Oh, I would imagine. XD But hey, it would have gone down in legend that's for sure. And we would probably have a few sayings, proverbs, and jokes about it now.

[@anadd6195]

26:12 he INSISTED in marrying her knowing that!

[@BeveC21E]

Amazing how many ambitious nobles would be willing to murder, for the most hazardous seat in country or land! A great and very interesting video, Lindsey. Thank you

[@Staren01]

Just like today most people who are actually good for the job are smart enough to not want it. On the other side of the coin most of the people who want the job aren't going to be great at it.

[@BeveC21E]

@@Staren01THAT seems to be the way of it. Very unfortunately!

[@cinna_sultan]

Life was disregarded back then. It was either kill or be killed. And nobles just wanted wealth, power and success just like humans do nowadays when it comes to careers.

[@afnanamo2284]

Always love the music choices for your videos! They always match the theme

[@eraldamurataj2605]

Thanks for the interesting takes on history! I really enjoy your videos and narration style!🤗

[@davidringmann3395]

After Ladislaus' death, Madeleine of Valois married into the navarrese royal family and therefore also became an ancestor to Henry Iv of France (he was her great-great-grandson by her daughter Queen Catherine I of Navarre).

[@tburrrg2502]

I had a hard day at work today and I needed this- your videos always helps me disconnect from my work day and I appreciate you Lindsay 💙

[@danysanerd2383]

Hey voice is so soothing 😌 ✨ 💕

[@ezekielbertrand809]

@@danysanerd2383 She’s the historical version of David Attenborough

[@PhDrSeuss]

You make history fun I love your videos. Please keep up the great work. One never knows what they're ever gonna learn here (and I'm always learning something new). I always lose track of time. It's like going to class and loving it.

[@chrisgeenadriver1631]

I have been recently reading about Henry vi. He was only 9 months old when he was crowned.

[@jamellfoster6029]

Mary Queen of Scots was 1 week old when she became Queen... She was put to death tragically young (44 years old)...

[@rukminikrishna1938]

@@jamellfoster6029 she was less than that

[@jamellfoster6029]

@@rukminikrishna1938 I saw that she was 44 when she was beheaded..

[@anubratabit3027]

The entire Tour de Nestle affair proved that begetting more than 1 sons can't secure the future of dynasty always.

[@FishBoneD14]

That and Catherine de Medici’s kids.

[@cinna_sultan]

The Ottomans and Chinese had harems out of luck due to high child mortality.

[@PerfectlyImperfect93]

Thank you Lindsay! You’re videos are the only thing I look forward too on Tuesdays!🫶🏼💕

[@mediocremaiden8883]

ME TOO!

[@theresaschoonover5782]

Same here I love watching these videos

[@maryqueenofscots1030]

I love your videos, I’ve been watching you for a little over 2 years ❤!

[@rukminikrishna1938]

Hi Mary!

[@PhDrSeuss]

You're a true follower.

[@ayaselmani932]

You were Queen at a Young Age to

[@maryqueenofscots1030]

@@ayaselmani932 yes, was crowned at 6 months old! 🥰

[@maryqueenofscots1030]

@@PhDrSeuss yes!

[@LittleMissLounge]

There is something about hearing about eye-gouging and castration while Brahms' "Lullaby" plays softly in the background on loop.

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

Lmaooooooo

[@samiam2003]

Lol

[@maximusdork3336]

I'm just imagining a three month old king being crowned, screaming the whole time. 'Yep, that's our king. He screams, shits himself, has absolutely no understanding of anything, but he's the son of the last one'.

[@emilybarclay8831]

Especially when the old king’s adult daughter who’s been given the best education is just stood there like ‘you chose the shit machine over me?’ Lol

[@mediocremaiden8883]

Such beautiful little dresses toddler Prince Alfonso wore

[@witabif]

this video has my favorite ad read of yours

[@lilliedoubleyou3865]

Just realized that the "Jean I" section sounded so familiar because it's straight out of LES ROI MAUDITS (sp?). Sure would be fun to get a profile of all the French monarchs!

[@quietreflections18]

This was really interesting! Thank you for creating this video! Have a great day!

[@swazeyprice9023]

do you think you could do a video on some of the former royal families of the balkans? there were quite a few monarchies in that area during a time and i find not many people talk about those former kingdoms

[@caitlinallen8400]

17:46 - that highlighter be popping tho ✨😄

[@Haunted.Cottage]

The song on loop this episode is killing me I wish it was softer or gone or something else

[@shrekswife2687]

Please do a video on Naverre and their queens!

[@leesakrall6592]

Thanks so much. I love history in general and your channel fits right into my life.

[@leannengle7534]

I love watching ur KZbin channel. I learned a lot from u. Thank u for making this KZbin channel. I love my history and learning about other history

[@e.nataliareyeshdez.3557]

23:50 Did-did you just say he told her wife "guarda el coñ0"? Idk why but that seems so funny to me, being a native spanish speaker 🤣

[@chrisgeenadriver1631]

I had a home birth and that baby was not going to be born on nice sheets. That baby was born on sheets I didn't mind getting trashed. I think the queens would want their back up sheets.

[@ladyjanegrey1671]

I mean, they are queens. It probably wouldn't really matter if nice sheets got messed up, because they most likely had like hundreds of good quality sheets.

[@anadd6195]

Women are so smart and strong. And they didn't want us rulling.

[@angelera27]

you make history so easy to remember

[@Scraggledust]

Always learn something new or interesting! Ty for your dedication!

[@andromeda331]

Great video! I always thought Alexander IV was killed a lot earlier then fourteen.

[@pedilustig4630]

11:38 After the "sudden" death of his wife on 30th of April, Louis married the Sekunden time on the 19th of August - more than 5 days. But the failure to observe the one-year mourning period was scandalous enough as it was.

[@littlestarandtheoandayly5591]

You should do a video on Queen Marie of Romania learning a lot about her

[@johannakylene1678]

Been watching your videos lately! I love your videos 😍. Thank you for sharing facts! 😄

[@lilenwasnothere6867]

and i used to believe mary queen of scots was the youngest queen

[@MiguelRecovery]

the random crown folling on the baby

[@brother_cone]

Love hearing your voice

[@liamnevard1591]

I’ve been waiting for this one!!!

[@emmanone621]

Thanks for the vid!

[@keithallen5795]

You get great details. Love your videos.

[@Cecilpedia]

King Jean has issued his first decree! His Majesty said the following: "goo goo 🤷"

[@jherlenecargill4081]

When you said what King Alfonso had said: “guarda el coño” I nearly died 😨💀🤣🤣🤣

[@katherinemassey7165]

This is exactly the topic I have been wondering about.

[@williamrufatobotura2545]

Oh Lindsay, you know a lot of history !

[@TheCierra1020]

What a nice surprise to see you in the video 💕you are amazing

[@vanitycamille9610]

I subscribe to alot of channels but yours is the only one I really do enjoy. Are you a professer or just love history like me ?

[@bloodrunsdeep3014]

love your videos

[@kriscook2423]

I can't help but wonder if some queens / consorts / other noble women may have arranged for another baby (male) to be available in case she did give birth to a girl. Like in secret they and their ladies would find a commoner either pregnant or already having birthed a male very recently. I mean if they did they would have taken that secret to the grave because it would have been a death sentence if the secret was discovered. It's an interesting thought and there were many crafty women in history.

[@hl6994]

To stop this from happening, a lot of the time queens would give birth in front of a group of nobles who could vouch the baby was indeed the queens

[@emilybarclay8831]

Like another commenter said, it was the tradition to have the prime minister and other important government officials literally witness the baby coming out of the queens vagina to verify no swap occurred. And while I’m sure that was very effective, it doesn’t exactly prevent anyone from swapping the baby at a later date if the baby seemed sickly (obviously it would be impossible to swap a baby’s gender at that point but if a prince seemed likely to die surely they could replace him with a healthier one)

[@fabulouschild2005]

8:30 this makes me feel like Lindsay is gonna give birth to a King

[@jamellfoster6029]

Alonso XIII looked a lot older than 54... 54 isn't much older than I am now...

[@vhoughton3153]

Fantastic video!! Thank you!!

[@MCKevin289]

It’s ironic that William of Orange promoted religious tolerance given what his image came to represent in Ireland, especially in the North of Ireland.

[@itsmeleslieg8]

Love your videos thank you!

[@lianefehrle9921]

I like the looking and blinking

[@marniehohepa886]

You should spill some tea on all the different curtseys from around the world... that would be cool as I havnt seen a video on the different types and styles of curtseys. I'm the series Victoria Idleheid curtseys to the side with one hand up at her cheat. It was cool to see.

[@cat55_ar3_sup3rior]

Love your vids 😊

[@atticusgrace277]

Some of these kids have been rulers before they were even born! 😂🖐️

[@daniellacatherineelizabeth8699]

Lol but they r kinda unlucky tho

[@dammar117]

Great videos. Love history.

[@sheenleng4096]

Monarch by birth

[@epcotethan9557]

Great video! Some very interesting monarchs!

[@autumnmosier1715]

i'd like to see more videos on the history of the spanish monarchy

[@-xxMelissaxx-]

10:52 Thank you for this nightmare fuel 😄

[@naomiskilling1093]

I'm surprised Henry VI isn't here. He was only 9 months old when he became King of England.

[@aimemontanari]

His father was alive when Henry was born. This video is about posthumous children.

[@happypeache4929]

Very nice video 👍

[@MrWertheron]

The (third) House of Bourbon was not founded by Henri IV but by Robert de Clermont (1256-1317) the 10th child of Saint Louis. In the video, this is a bit hasty and one could think that Henri IV became king because he was a descendant of Jeanne, but in 1589 he became king through his male line (he is indeed the eldest male of the Capetians after the death of Henri III and the extinction of the Valois). It so happens that his father Antoine de Bourbon married Queen Jeanne III of Navarre, but this had no bearing on his claim to the French crown.

[@Arcokevi]

The Spanish frase “guardar el co*o” OMG. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@briarhamrick]

can you do a segment on joan of arc?

[@kellyriddell5014]

The line, "Chicken meat is cheap," after hearing 13,000 soldiers died in battle fighting while he was in France vacationing... I can't remember the last time something angered me so much to hear. Wow.

[@michellel564]

How the heck did cold wine cause pneumonia??🤔🤨

[@Catseye189]

If you inhale it?

[@JauntyCrepe]

@@Catseye189 that's what I thought. Maybe he chugged it and accidentally aspirated it. Who knows

[@lemoncreme847]

you know whenever someone makes you laugh when ur drinking something and the drink gets in ur airways? i think it to be smth like that

[@athena5954]

So happy to see you😘

[@rowanmorgan457]

Fantastic episode. Really enjoyed it

[@landenr2466]

I was wondering if you could tell me how you research. I wanna become as good as u

[@chrisgeenadriver1631]

Is one of your next videos going to be on Elizabeth 2nd as it's her jubilee on the 2nd of June😁

[@tanithjohnson2802]

Lindsey Holiday what do you know about the Kings of Scotland? are you able to do a video on them ? please there are Scottish novels I know nothing staring from the 932 I love your videos they are very informative

[@johnvinals7423]

Imagine how much trouble could have been avoided if Alfonso XIII had just kept his mouth shut.

[@ruthstevens8805]

Thank you, thats the first time i understood about Spain and Franco.

[@brettlarch8050]

The song 😂

[@bradleyadams4496]

When everyone does everything wrong, it will never be right. I don't have to worry about anyone getting it right, they are all doing things the wrong way and taking the wrong approach when trying to address the real issues that are going to result in something terrible in time.

[@VersieKilgannon]

This is a slight tangent, but still somewhat related. I just watched a video yesterday about William of Orange (married to Mary Stewart, older sister of Anne Stewart- the last member of the Stewart dynasty) having a long standing affair with a woman named Elizabeth. In that video, there was no mention of him having any same sex attraction. I'm not arguing your statement about him. I just want to know your source of information so I can read up on it myself. Please and thank you 💚