Royal Pretenders

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History Tea Time with Lindsay Holiday

History Tea Time with Lindsay Holiday

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@Kerriangel
@Kerriangel 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a historical version of Maury with the various pretenders. Maury: The DNA test proves… you are NOT the true king! Pretender: *flips chair and is restrained by guards*
@adxre0
@adxre0 2 жыл бұрын
Cant forget the cameraman running fast asf behind them
@goldenrosie
@goldenrosie 2 жыл бұрын
I could see that being a Horrible Histories skit. That would be funny.
@aleeyahgriffith7696
@aleeyahgriffith7696 2 жыл бұрын
Painters chasing the pretender like the cameraman trying to get some paint strokes in 💀
@captainwartburger2571
@captainwartburger2571 2 жыл бұрын
@@aleeyahgriffith7696 LMAOO
@aestheticslowed1750
@aestheticslowed1750 2 жыл бұрын
That would have been so entertaining😭
@womerine
@womerine 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard these stories so many times, the boys in the tower, the Romanov girls enduring bullets ricocheting off their hidden jewels, the dauphin dying in squalid darkness. It still fills me with sadness for them.
@AHunt2024
@AHunt2024 2 жыл бұрын
honestly same. especially because at the end of the day, a lot of these victims in the conflicts were just children, innocent or didn't want anything to do with it. it makes me so sad
@challengestars944
@challengestars944 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. The children were young and innocent. Their only crime was being "in the way" of people who wanted the power for themselves.
@timofejs8283
@timofejs8283 2 жыл бұрын
womerine I’m sorry but Romanoff isn’t spelt like that it’s Romanov
@womerine
@womerine 2 жыл бұрын
@@timofejs8283 I apologize, didn't think to check my spelling there.
@timofejs8283
@timofejs8283 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry
@Spyro1000Fan
@Spyro1000Fan 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so sad that murdering children in line for the throne was something that happened so often
@clairefordzetterstrom9973
@clairefordzetterstrom9973 2 жыл бұрын
True😔💔
@deborahmitchell3299
@deborahmitchell3299 Жыл бұрын
Yes true that & king richard got what he deserved in the end by King Henry 7th. Goes to show that greed does not pay! 😊
@elizabethiiqueenofu.k.head9009
@elizabethiiqueenofu.k.head9009 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so funny that there were so many Anastasia Pretenders and yet so many people believed them all.
@queenelizabethwoodville8285
@queenelizabethwoodville8285 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was hope. Everyone was so stunned by her death, they stayed in denial for so long and when an opportunity to prove one at least survived, they were willing to ignore any doubt.
@queenelizabethiofengland7338
@queenelizabethiofengland7338 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Elizabeth!
@elizabethiiqueenofu.k.head9009
@elizabethiiqueenofu.k.head9009 2 жыл бұрын
@@queenelizabethwoodville8285 I agree! Lord Mountbatten, Philips uncle, had a crush on her sister, Maria
@elizabethiiqueenofu.k.head9009
@elizabethiiqueenofu.k.head9009 2 жыл бұрын
@@queenelizabethiofengland7338 Hey Bess! Your so iconic
@queenelizabethiofengland7338
@queenelizabethiofengland7338 2 жыл бұрын
@@elizabethiiqueenofu.k.head9009 tyty
@benbankss
@benbankss 2 жыл бұрын
The Romanov childrens’ death is probably the most heartbreaking thing I’ve ever heard. I always bothered me ever since I was a kid
@jaybee9269
@jaybee9269 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t look up what happened the Goebbels children.
@AS-yz2iz
@AS-yz2iz 2 жыл бұрын
Have you read the history of the Ottoman Empire? One sultan had his 19 brothers strangled when he took the throne. They killed their brothers, uncles, nephews, and even their parents and children. Quite disturbing.
@charlietbarnes4842
@charlietbarnes4842 2 жыл бұрын
I know especially after watching the Disney movie I was convinced she was alive theirs a thing on Netflix about the romanovs last days its so sad x
@Zeldafan1ify
@Zeldafan1ify 2 жыл бұрын
Very sad indeed, but imagine that poor 3 yr old boy who was publicly hanged. All because of politics. It can't get anymore hesrtbreaking than that
@etorresrodz
@etorresrodz 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlietbarnes4842 never will I understand the decision to make a CHILDREN'S MOVIE about the Russian revolution glorifying the abusive Romanov dinasty... it's known the whole thing was bloddy and gruesome
@Daughterofminerva
@Daughterofminerva 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Marie Therese. Her family was killed and she also had to bear all these men claiming that they were her brother.
@queenelizabethiofengland7338
@queenelizabethiofengland7338 2 жыл бұрын
Catholicism and the Pope accused me of this because I was the daughter of Anne Boleyn…
@kinghenryviiiofengland4376
@kinghenryviiiofengland4376 2 жыл бұрын
That would rather be my fault dear
@Hello-yq8kk
@Hello-yq8kk 2 жыл бұрын
Poor you
@areiaaphrodite
@areiaaphrodite 2 жыл бұрын
Weeeeeeell....
@jonirnmomba4130
@jonirnmomba4130 2 жыл бұрын
@@kinghenryviiiofengland4376 it’s nice to see you two opening up dialogue after all these years. Just remember, your emotions are your own and validated. Speak in love and really dig together to rectify and redeem and move forward!
@mediocremaiden8883
@mediocremaiden8883 2 жыл бұрын
Anne Boleyn was my daddy
@CheeseOnTop2007
@CheeseOnTop2007 2 жыл бұрын
The romanovs execution always haunted me as a child. The children shouldn’t suffer for what the adults did
@angr3819
@angr3819 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was their close enough forebears who executed by hanging the 6 year old heir to the throne when they took it by force. The Romanovs were extremely cruel to the people of Russia. The revolution was merely a change of dictatorship though.
@CheeseOnTop2007
@CheeseOnTop2007 2 жыл бұрын
@@angr3819 That’s literally my point. It was the ADULTS that were cruel to Russia. The kids were clueless to what happened outside their palace.And even if they did, what power do they have against their parents and the monarchy
@angr3819
@angr3819 2 жыл бұрын
@@CheeseOnTop2007 People seem to excel at being either very good or very bad. Here, it was the prince's in the tower and the young Prince who may have suffered autism being put out of sight in the country with his Nanny, and they weren't even sent enough to exist. Locals gave them food. That is only the royals. The lower ranks could also be cruel. The youngest child executed here (for murder of another child) was only 6. Did he comprehend enough to have deliberately ended a life? Other children also jailed and executed here and abroad. Also stolen for slavery in the Caribbean and what is now the USA. Animals also. A pig. As well as on another occasion a monkey found on a Spanish ship taken in warfare. Taken to court and found guilty of spying. Yet other times there have been occasions of extraordinary bravery, kindness and self sacrifice for people and even other animals. Go figure. Because I can't 🤔😒😏🙂 we are a strange bunch.
@IAmWBeard
@IAmWBeard 2 жыл бұрын
They didn’t. They suffered for what they represented and the threat they posed once they became adults. When u weed a garden, you don’t just pull the mature weeds, u get all of them, root and stem. Not trying to sound like i support what happened, i don’t, obvs, but i do understand it.
@arvinroidoatienza7082
@arvinroidoatienza7082 2 жыл бұрын
A wise man had said, why is it when men play their game of thrones, it is the children who suffer?
@areiaaphrodite
@areiaaphrodite 2 жыл бұрын
1st False Dimitri: Fear not Russia, I have come back from the dead to save you! Russia: Hooray! 2nd False Dimitri; Psych! I'm the real Dimitri, I got this. Russia: oh... um, okay, cool! 3rd False Dimitri: Did someone say my name- Russia: -Nope. * walks away *
@joshuawells835
@joshuawells835 2 жыл бұрын
There's also the tale of Mary Baker a.k.a. Princess Caraboo, a 19th century imposter who pretended to be the princess of an island nation in the Indian Ocean. She fooled the British aristocracy for months and is said to have had an audience with Napoleon at St. Helena.
@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 2 жыл бұрын
Saw the movie a few months ago starring Kevin Kline and his wife Phoebe Cates -it was her last substantial role before she retired from acting to raise her family.John Sessions,English actor and comedian was also in it as the Prince-Regent(later George IV) who was taken in by the deception big time.
@immagical7036
@immagical7036 2 жыл бұрын
IVE HEARD OF HER OMG, I thought it was fake omg
@imonherenow3673
@imonherenow3673 2 жыл бұрын
The Princes in the Tower has to be one of the saddest stories in history. Nobody was spared during those times.
@janamihalova4058
@janamihalova4058 Жыл бұрын
There is no evidence they were murdered.
@janamihalova4058
@janamihalova4058 Жыл бұрын
@@jamielauren6282 your comment sounds very stupid and rude especially when you obviously dont care about this topic enough to read anything more recent and scientific but I will answer anyway. there have been a few theories from real historians that the boys either stayed in Tower and died much later, or they were actually relocated to another place, not a prison, and there they lived. There are many hints showing that the princes were still alive when Richard III died in 1485. For example after Richard died nobody of a rank accused him of killing the boys. Not even the boys' mother, of their sister who became queen nor Henry VII who couluse this accusation as his advantage...
@Lulu-ut9pv
@Lulu-ut9pv 2 жыл бұрын
It's so sad how the children suffered because of their relatives/ links to the throne
@katsy0c0
@katsy0c0 2 жыл бұрын
The story of little Louis-Charles always breaks my heart. :(
@dashson7560
@dashson7560 2 жыл бұрын
Same. He was no older than five and I can only dread to think of how he was treated 😢. Such a sad sad story.
@clairefordzetterstrom9973
@clairefordzetterstrom9973 2 жыл бұрын
Same imagine if the executioners didn't beat him up and he became a king and have children,we would still have a monarchy of France today😔💔
@nicoleackerman205
@nicoleackerman205 2 жыл бұрын
It was straight up child abuse and disgusting. I don't care that is parents were selfish it was so mess up what happened to him.
@anglfail
@anglfail 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicoleackerman205 his parents weren't even that bad. his mother cared for him and all children in general deeply.
@ChibiPanda8888
@ChibiPanda8888 Жыл бұрын
At the risk of sounding calloused, I'd say it was a mercy that he died. If he had lived after that torment, he would be so seriously messed up both physically and mentally that he may not have lived long anyway. Poor kid. Such a heartbreaking story.
@Colinop
@Colinop 2 жыл бұрын
not only does, by legend, Marina's curse state "you begun with a Tsarevich, you will end with a Tsarevich!" but she also says "in Ipatiev's you started, in Ipatiev's you will end!" Ipatiev's Monastery was where Tsar Michael I was when the Sobor announced he would be Tsar. Ipatiev's House was the merchant's home where Tsar Nicholas II, his wife, his daughters, and Tsarevich Alexei were when they were executed
@esteralee4749
@esteralee4749 Жыл бұрын
😮😮😮
@JonManProductions
@JonManProductions 2 жыл бұрын
In spite of current events, I'm at least happy to know that the mystery of the Romanovs was resolved far more conclusively than any other of the pretenders in this video :D I'm happy to have discovered this channel recently through my royal family binges across the youtube :)
@jennklein1917
@jennklein1917 2 жыл бұрын
Good old DNA, didn't know the Queen's hubby was the Tsar's closest living relative.Wow they are a bunch of inbreds🤪🤪
@jamig.7254
@jamig.7254 2 жыл бұрын
You might want to ask yourself, who declared all the Romanovs dead? Then research Anna Anderson through her American lawyer's notes and case, which is in the Harvard University's archives. Then wonder why the Germans gave her a fortified house to live in- could not dismiss her identity in court, and later buried her in their cemetery for Nobility.
@avaglennon9873
@avaglennon9873 2 жыл бұрын
A three-year-old was publicly hanged?! That’s so gruesome
@pseudonymous9153
@pseudonymous9153 2 жыл бұрын
@Luboman411 does your mother know you promote child murder on the internet
@thesunsetshere
@thesunsetshere 2 жыл бұрын
Disgusting
@laurieb3703
@laurieb3703 2 жыл бұрын
@Luboman411 so he became what had tortured him for so long. To a tiny little boy who had no idea what was going on. Disgusting!
@angr3819
@angr3819 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently the original Romanov dynasty who stole the throne hung the 6 year old heir.
@clairefordzetterstrom9973
@clairefordzetterstrom9973 2 жыл бұрын
@@angr3819 Ikr he seems like a quiet and gentle kid
@luisjaviercarrasquillo6342
@luisjaviercarrasquillo6342 2 жыл бұрын
I look forward to these every Tuesday - keep them coming, Lindsay!
@lyndanickerson1373
@lyndanickerson1373 2 жыл бұрын
I agree I look forward to Tuesday's for her KZbin videos and podcasts
@michaelraby7440
@michaelraby7440 2 жыл бұрын
Me too!!
@courtneyjohnston7233
@courtneyjohnston7233 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@areiaaphrodite
@areiaaphrodite 2 жыл бұрын
Sigh... I love when good old DNA tests prove pretenders to be frauds... now can we please test the bones of the Princes in the Tower???
@royaltyfandomx
@royaltyfandomx 2 жыл бұрын
There is no need it’s obvious it’s the princes!
@areiaaphrodite
@areiaaphrodite 2 жыл бұрын
@@royaltyfandomx it would still be nice though just to put it to rest once and for all
@emilybreidenbach7865
@emilybreidenbach7865 2 жыл бұрын
@@royaltyfandomx I’m not so sure
@Asri_
@Asri_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@royaltyfandomx A lot of people have died in the tower. It may not be the two princes.
@mariavi33
@mariavi33 2 жыл бұрын
@@royaltyfandomx Several remains have been found that could have been them throughout the centuries, so it's impossible to know if the official ones are right. I highly recommend watching the video History Calling has done about them.
@zuziagalant6761
@zuziagalant6761 2 жыл бұрын
Poles trying to put three different Dmitris on the Russian throne is actually a funny story… I have learned about it at school (I am Polish) and it is ridiculous how they were so obsesssd with getting Russia for themselves and then when Vasa prince was able to claim it basically as a Polish puppet state they were like nO, thanks
@HassanZargari
@HassanZargari 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine not having to worry about Moscow's influence in the region, nor worrying about Russia at all.
@Nepetita69696
@Nepetita69696 2 жыл бұрын
@@HassanZargari Literally like who wouldn't want that.
@alecmiller6066
@alecmiller6066 2 жыл бұрын
It was extremely tragic actually, country suffered a lot because of that manipulations, Russian royalty decided to create a new dynasty
@farhanatashiga3721
@farhanatashiga3721 2 жыл бұрын
@@HassanZargari all that would do is made Poland replace Russia's place
@cosmopolitanwonder9675
@cosmopolitanwonder9675 2 жыл бұрын
@@HassanZargari Then you would have to worry about the poles, whoever has a massive country. Will always worry about their neighbours
@DoubleMrE
@DoubleMrE 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically, the two people directly referred to as “pretenders” (James and Charles Stuart) in British history, were the legitimate heirs.
@royaltyfandomx
@royaltyfandomx 2 жыл бұрын
Anna: I’m Anastasia Soviets: How is she in France? Anna: *lies
@geofftab6224
@geofftab6224 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jewlz9095
@jewlz9095 2 жыл бұрын
My roommate and I met someone who swore she was a descendant of princess Anastacia. I wish I could of seen her face when they actually found the remains and were dna tested
@phoney4387
@phoney4387 2 жыл бұрын
uhmmmmmmmm..........there are people alive today who are descendants of Anastasia.....the Romanovs were a family of more than 7 people 🤦🏿‍♀️
@jessilynallendilla5014
@jessilynallendilla5014 Жыл бұрын
@@phoney4387 yeah and they all were murdered before the five children could have children
@phoney4387
@phoney4387 Жыл бұрын
Thank god for that @@jessilynallendilla5014 🙌🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
@MegCazalet
@MegCazalet Жыл бұрын
@@phoney4387 Just to make sure this is clear, as it’s a matter of understanding the meaning of “descendants” vs “ancestors”, etc: As established, there were no survivors from the immediate Imperial Family. For there to be descendants of Anastasia she would need to have had a child in the first place. And even if one of her sisters had a child who could’ve continued the family line, Olga for example, the ensuing generations wouldn’t be “descendants” of Anastasia; they’d share earlier *ancestors* with Anastasia but they’d be *descended* from Olga. And as stated, none of the Imperial children had children of their own before they were murdered. There are no living descendants of Nicolas and Alexandra, let alone Anastasia.
@DemiB5030
@DemiB5030 7 ай бұрын
Celebrating children being murdered is sick you🤡
@sirwelch9991
@sirwelch9991 2 жыл бұрын
There are two kinds of Pretenders: Heirs that lost their thrones and Impostors. You covered them both. Good job!
@simplyselina
@simplyselina 2 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I’ve seen colorized photos of the Romanov family. Thank you for this!!
@Alex-ms9em
@Alex-ms9em 2 жыл бұрын
Currently moving into my dorm room, this is just what I needed to listen to while I unpack! :D
@2krenegade323
@2krenegade323 2 жыл бұрын
Okay I’m not gonna lie- that curse about the Romanovs is just a little bit spooky. Great video as always!
@chykim1
@chykim1 2 жыл бұрын
Even if I were the real such and such, I'd probably deny it. Being a Royal doesn't seem all that safe.
@farhanatashiga3721
@farhanatashiga3721 2 жыл бұрын
Back then it wasn't, today's royals are protected by their bureaucracy.
@LotusStitchandSketch
@LotusStitchandSketch Жыл бұрын
I'm inclined to agree. As wonderful as that life sounds to many of us looking in so to speak I don't think I'd want to actually live that life. Even when you're not the immediate/direct heir there are so many people who would still be rather willing to do you in if only given the chance
@Falling2311
@Falling2311 Жыл бұрын
Actually, the family isn't buried together. The Russian Orthodox Church is "unconvinced" the remains are really Maria and Alexei - just like they were when DNA initially proved the first set of remains were the Romanovs. They won't allow Maria and Alexei to be buried with them. I can't find too many articles on it but the most current ones I found are from 2022 and they state Maria and Alexei haven't been laid to rest yet. I hope you'll add some sort of correction somewhere so people will know this still isn't over - the family is still not together laid to rest.
@MarshalltonUMC792
@MarshalltonUMC792 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lindsay. Another fascinating piece of history!
@MegCazalet
@MegCazalet Жыл бұрын
The book “Resurrection of the Romanovs” is divided into two parts, the real Anastasia’s life, then Franziska Schanzkowska’s life after she began her enigmatic metamorphosis into Anna Anderson. I think it’s amazing that the police had identified Franzisca within days, but she managed to fool so many people for decades. Of course, those who believed her were already inclined to, and had an incentive to, as well. So long as they kept the possibility of her being Anastasia alive in the minds of enough people, those who could get close to her would receive respect, fame, power, and influence among some exiled Russian nobles as well as the attention of a general populace fascinated by a good “fairytale come true”. And yet, the woman was so unpleasant to deal with, most of her supporters passed her on to the next rube after living with her; she just wasn’t worth it. She was still one of the luckiest woman imaginable, to have such unique physical characteristics of the real Anastasia. And, bless little Anastasia; without all these Pretenders, the youngest daughter and least significant of the Romanov children would’ve been a mostly forgotten teenage girl. But at the same time, to the real Anastasia’s detriment, her memory has been overtaken by myth. Either way, the real Anastasia gets lost.
@ak9989
@ak9989 2 жыл бұрын
Love the videos! I enjoy history and especially royal history. I have 110 Victorian Campaign medals that have her portrait on them made of silver. It's amazing history. I even visited and toured the UK for over 2 months driving all over the country. I even out I am a Deveraux descendant.
@aceofspades8634
@aceofspades8634 2 жыл бұрын
Having just finished watching, I’m now interested to know if there has ever been a successful Royal imposter who managed to hold on to power and secure the throne for themselves and their descendants… 🤔 Does anybody know? P.S. Great video as always! You make Tuesday’s my favourite day of the week! 🤗
@maverickhuntersyd
@maverickhuntersyd 2 жыл бұрын
how would we know if they covered their tracks so well? lmao
@aceofspades8634
@aceofspades8634 2 жыл бұрын
@@maverickhuntersyd Well surely, if an imposter claimed to be the rightful heir to a throne, the monarch at the time wouldn’t just hand it to them lol. There would be records of conspiracy, support, rebellions, invasions, and if it got that far, then coronations and most likely executions as well…
@emilybenton6890
@emilybenton6890 2 жыл бұрын
@@maverickhuntersyd dna!
@aceofspades8634
@aceofspades8634 2 жыл бұрын
@Luboman411 Oh wow, thanks for the info! I’m definitely going to look that up!
@yakkityyak9336
@yakkityyak9336 2 жыл бұрын
yes, Henry Tudor
@Start.a.curvolution
@Start.a.curvolution 2 жыл бұрын
Well, the Anastasia story came straight to my mind bc it was my fav animation film when I was 8 yrs old and my grandpa was a history teacher bought me a book about the story of the real fake Anastasia
@etorresrodz
@etorresrodz 2 жыл бұрын
I loved that movie too when I was little but after growing up and learning about the Romanovs I cannot comprehend why would they make a movie about that and for children
@dsmplify3627
@dsmplify3627 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Marie Thérèse, She was haunted by pretenders pretending to be her brother.
@barbarak2836
@barbarak2836 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was something of a mixed blessing that she survived. She had to live with the memories of so much horror, not to mention all these imposters claiming to be her brother, some even threatening her.
@simplyselina
@simplyselina 2 жыл бұрын
When I went to the Tower of London in 2018 they told us the story of the princes and where the bones were found in the staircase. Rip poor babies.
@raphaelemartinat
@raphaelemartinat 2 жыл бұрын
Lambert Simnel was first declared to be one of the Princes in the Tower before he was recognized as being the earl of Warwick (who was in Henry's custody and another Yorkist pretender)
@jessicamorton6081
@jessicamorton6081 2 жыл бұрын
Man, there were so many pretenders and some of them were just sick individuals trying to take money Nice video Lindsay
@mariavi33
@mariavi33 2 жыл бұрын
If anyone wants to know more about the princes in the tower, I highly recommend the video History Calling made about it. She goes through all the sources and debunks many of the myths (for example, that they were illegitimate, and that Henry VII or Margaret Beaufort could have done it). She also has a video about if Edward IV was illegitimate or not if anyone wants to know about that. And she made a video about the deaths of the Romanovs.
@The5Lotus
@The5Lotus 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best history channels🎉 Please do a video on final resting grounds for royals
@tuikkur.5655
@tuikkur.5655 2 жыл бұрын
Lambert Simnel was actually a pretender of Edward Plantagenet, earl of Warwick, who was the son of Edward IV's younger brother George and his wife Isabel Neville. The real Edward, earl of Warwick happened to be in the Tower of London under custody of Henry VII at the time, so Henry of course immediately knew, that Lambert Simnel was just a pretender. This was not the case with Perkin Warbeck, because there was no living Richard of York and no one knew what had happened to him.
@Jennifer_Lewis_Beach_Living
@Jennifer_Lewis_Beach_Living 11 ай бұрын
I’m glad you mentioned that about Lambert Simnel. That is correct. He was the pretender of the Earl of Warwick, a child that Henry VII had locked in the tower because he had a stronger claim to the throne than Henry did.
@areiaaphrodite
@areiaaphrodite 2 жыл бұрын
Edward IV's brothers were snakes 🐍 First there was George who kept betraying and conspiring against Edward for the crown until Edward had to execute him, and then Richard (allegedly) murdered Edward's sons and disinherited his surviving daughters. That's cold.
@LotusStitchandSketch
@LotusStitchandSketch 2 жыл бұрын
well TECHNICALLY if they WERE illegitimate as that one priest claimed Richard WOULD have been the rightful heir, regardless of how many children Edward IV had with his queen.
@areiaaphrodite
@areiaaphrodite 2 жыл бұрын
@@LotusStitchandSketch but they WEREN'T illegitimate. Richard just produced rather FLIMSY "evidence" that states that Edward had already been married to someone else... which was a LIE. Therefore, Edward's children were ALWAYS LEGITIMATE.
@LotusStitchandSketch
@LotusStitchandSketch 2 жыл бұрын
@@areiaaphrodite wasn't there a priest (BIshop Stillington I think his name was?) claiming that he'd made a contract with Eleanor Butler prior to marrying Elizabeth? AS I understand it according to the law of the time if a man or woman has a pre-contract of marriage to someone and then they marry someone else the second marriage is invalid because of the earlier precontract of marriage to the first person? So after having George executed that same priest was arrested and sent to the tower for a year and then kept his mouth until Edward was dead. if that's true then wouldn't they have illegitimate based on their father's precontract to marry Eleanor Butler? Seems odd that this priest would be locked up like that and Eleanor herself forced into convent if that were not true but I don't know for sure how that all worked back then I just had heard that in another video and that was supposedly why Richard was crowned King
@mariavi33
@mariavi33 2 жыл бұрын
@@LotusStitchandSketch Eleanor died before Edward V and his brother were born, and the only requirements for a lawful marriage back then were that the couple announced that they were married and slept together. So even if Edward was married to Eleanor, only the first 2 of Edward IV and Elizabeth's children could be illegitimate (Edward V was their 4th and Richard duke of York was their 6th).
@hellsjamfleas
@hellsjamfleas Жыл бұрын
​@@LotusStitchandSketchIt's worth barring in mind this was announced after the boys were locked in the tower, with their uncle in power. Just as this is one source claiming they were illegitimate (and he could be lying) there is a source claiming that the people saw this as an obvious lie. The fact that the also illegitemised Elizabeth of York was still seen as heir and marriage candidate even for foreign princes suggests that this was seen as a slander rather than truth.
@tanekalewis6872
@tanekalewis6872 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear the story of an actual royal that was presumed dead and at some point was found later... please
@nicoleackerman205
@nicoleackerman205 2 жыл бұрын
That would be extremely interesting.
@_Unoffical_Norahhh_
@_Unoffical_Norahhh_ Жыл бұрын
Real
@queenelizabethwoodville8285
@queenelizabethwoodville8285 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my poor Princes in the tower.
@queenelizabethiofengland7338
@queenelizabethiofengland7338 2 жыл бұрын
Poor souls…
@kinghenryviiiofengland4376
@kinghenryviiiofengland4376 2 жыл бұрын
😭
@edwardviofengland8048
@edwardviofengland8048 2 жыл бұрын
I genuinely feel sorry for what happened to them
@kinghenryviiiofengland4376
@kinghenryviiiofengland4376 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardviofengland8048 Good child! Loving the fact you are sympathising :)
@edwardviofengland8048
@edwardviofengland8048 2 жыл бұрын
@@kinghenryviiiofengland4376 Its the least we can do, after all there's a very high chance, King Henry VII, the progenitor of our dynasty was responsible for the murder
@Itzduhhistorygirl
@Itzduhhistorygirl 2 жыл бұрын
Hey lindsay can you do royal scandals next since you are doing royal imposters That would be a great video 😃😃
@ruyfernandez
@ruyfernandez 2 жыл бұрын
You killed me with "Anastasia"! 🤣🤣🤣
@kinghenryviiiofengland4376
@kinghenryviiiofengland4376 2 жыл бұрын
My father loved to deal with these pretenders…
@queenelizabethiofengland7338
@queenelizabethiofengland7338 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Father!
@kinghenryviiiofengland4376
@kinghenryviiiofengland4376 2 жыл бұрын
@@queenelizabethiofengland7338 hey Elizabeth
@edwardviofengland8048
@edwardviofengland8048 2 жыл бұрын
Long Live the King! ( preferably long enough so I don't have to ascend the throne at 9)
@kinghenryviiiofengland4376
@kinghenryviiiofengland4376 2 жыл бұрын
@Ella Amos Hi subject!
@kinghenryviiiofengland4376
@kinghenryviiiofengland4376 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardviofengland8048 I wish I didn’t cause anything bad for you, well I had a really messed up childhood and yours was ok until my death. In the afterlife, I want to fight Thomas Seymour. It’s obvious I will win
@roberthossen8354
@roberthossen8354 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, never knew there were so many claimants to the various thrones. However, the last picture you showed is not the cathedral of St. Peter and St. Paul in Saint Petersburg, the Romanov Imperial mausoleum. That cathedral has a huge gilded spire.
@technojunkie123
@technojunkie123 2 жыл бұрын
Wow what a coincidence this video winds up in my inbox while I’m watching the Crowned Clown - a Korean drama about a lowly clown trying to hold on to power by pretending to be the real king!
@frankchan4272
@frankchan4272 2 жыл бұрын
I always joked that there something had very remote chance of happening that I had same chance of me becoming the king of England but I’m Chinese 😂
@nikkishaaustin1731
@nikkishaaustin1731 Жыл бұрын
Your voice is so unique it makes the blogs come alive. Anastasia i always believed she survived.
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 8 ай бұрын
Her body was found at the location and DNA testing confirmed she read killed with the rest of her family
@oneminuteofmyday
@oneminuteofmyday 2 жыл бұрын
6:22 I just now got the Rocky and Bullwinkle joke. 😂 Edited to add: My mother was very much into the whole Anastasia thing and read pretty much any book she found by and about people claiming to be her. I don’t think she truly believed that Anastasia had survived, but she thought Anna Anderson was very interesting and would be the one if it were found to be true. It was sort of a sad day when they identified Anastasia’s remains; no more mystery to wonder.
@HistoryandHeadlines
@HistoryandHeadlines 2 жыл бұрын
Which currently royal pretender would you most like to see ascend a throne?
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 2 жыл бұрын
None of them, people who lie about being royals aren’t doing it out of philanthropy, they’re by definition power hungry and that’s never a good trait in a ruler. That, or they’re severely delusional, which, again, isn’t a good trait in a ruler
@lilymarinovic1644
@lilymarinovic1644 2 жыл бұрын
It would be kinda cool to see the Romanovs back on the Russian throne and giving Putin the royal boot.
@ofeliasantoshistory
@ofeliasantoshistory 2 жыл бұрын
You’re my comfort KZbinr. 🥺💕 I love binging your videos 💕💕💕💕
@Anna-mq4qr
@Anna-mq4qr 2 жыл бұрын
These video’s are so informative and shed a different light on the perception of royalty now and in the past. Thank you so much. Keep them coming!
@justianowski
@justianowski 2 жыл бұрын
I was and still am obsessed with the story of Anastasia romanov. RIP
@mikebowman4692
@mikebowman4692 2 жыл бұрын
There's still a Lost Dauphin road in Wisconsin for Eleazor.
@jennyyuhasey2550
@jennyyuhasey2550 2 жыл бұрын
There is also the Lost Dauphin State Park in De Pere, WI which is right on Lost Dauphin Road. The park is where Williams' house was.
@PerfectlyImperfect93
@PerfectlyImperfect93 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lindsay!💜
@Sattva468
@Sattva468 Жыл бұрын
“They put his ashes in a cannon and shot him back home to Poland” 💀💀
@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 2 жыл бұрын
The affair of the false Dmitri is the subject of one of the most spectacular of Russian operas -"Boris Godunov" by Mussourgsky -one of the great 19th Century Russian composers.
@ChibiProwl
@ChibiProwl 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. 😌I love The Hut on Chicken Legs and The Night on Bald Mountain, both by him.😌
@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChibiProwl Night on Bald Mountain became very well known when it was given very vivid cartoon treatment in Disney's "Fantasia I" and Mussorgsky also wrote "Pictures at an Exhibition" and also the opera "Khovantschina" also on Russian history : the Old Believers and their mass self immolation
@ChibiProwl
@ChibiProwl 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaloarepo288 Yep. I love Fantasia. His Pictures at an Exhibition are excellent as well.😌
@MarvelEnt5
@MarvelEnt5 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't pretend not to be excited.. NEW LINDSAY LET'S GOOOOO
@3frenchhens818
@3frenchhens818 2 жыл бұрын
I would be embarrassed as all get out to do something like that.
@monical.r13
@monical.r13 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do Usurpers next?????? I love the videos that span across multiple royal families
@whatsaryn
@whatsaryn 2 жыл бұрын
My comfort channel is back at it again with another BANGER.
@frankiebelle
@frankiebelle 2 жыл бұрын
Such a fascinating video. Nice work
@marofontaine3913
@marofontaine3913 2 жыл бұрын
This was fascinating! Wow 🤩. Great job , lady👍👍👏👏👏
@nataliapanfichi9933
@nataliapanfichi9933 10 ай бұрын
@Historytea timewith LindsayHoliday your info make a mistake, Lampert didn't pretend to be one of the princes, he was posing Edward teddy of york , a cousin of the princes.
@lokalnawrozka
@lokalnawrozka Жыл бұрын
Oh my... killing the pronunciation of name Jerzy and saying Jersey 😂😂😂 it hurts
@timpancakes2011
@timpancakes2011 2 жыл бұрын
Such an interesting topic. Great video!
@areiaaphrodite
@areiaaphrodite 2 жыл бұрын
Yay! I was waiting for a Royal Pretenders video!
@3frenchhens818
@3frenchhens818 2 жыл бұрын
What I get a kick out of is how, when ordinary people think they're royalty, they suddenly puff up and start swanning around being regal. That's embarrassing to watch. If you Google for pictures of Delores Costello and Prince Mdvani you can see some hilarious photos of this.
@valery5360
@valery5360 2 жыл бұрын
"so for now the myster of the princes in the tower will remain..." me: "...unsolved???" "unsolved." if you get the reference you're cool
@ChibiProwl
@ChibiProwl 2 жыл бұрын
I got it.😌
@olyamereacre3326
@olyamereacre3326 Жыл бұрын
Bonnie prince Charlie and Mary queen of Scots were pretenders too
@matthewmacpherson5071
@matthewmacpherson5071 20 күн бұрын
Mary, Queen of Scots was not a pretender. She was crowned Queen of Scotland on September 9th, 1543.
@khanhkhanh1060
@khanhkhanh1060 Ай бұрын
5:18 Why?!!! I want to know the true!
@2007VolkswagenJetta
@2007VolkswagenJetta Жыл бұрын
The guards in charge of the Romanovs had become close to the family and didn’t even want to kill then. Nikolai even laughed and said “what?” When the guard read out their sentence. It truly shocked everyone involved
@shirleytrenche7852
@shirleytrenche7852 2 жыл бұрын
Me whenever a notification that Lindsay posted: AHHHH! 🤗
@calvinsparrow9829
@calvinsparrow9829 2 жыл бұрын
In the restroom right now and the only statement that comes to mind is what Benny Hill once said: "on the throne is he right", lol 😆😂
@Voronochka262
@Voronochka262 2 жыл бұрын
So both Alexei and the last daughter have been placed to rest with the rest of their family now? Last I heard, they hadn't yet
@dandygirl6
@dandygirl6 2 жыл бұрын
Lindsay you are an internet icon, I’d be lost without you legit
@Ekaterina7
@Ekaterina7 Жыл бұрын
Any guesses as to why the two Romanov children where separated?
@emmarichardson965
@emmarichardson965 Жыл бұрын
I can't remember where I heard it, but I think it might have been to further obscure that the mass grave was the Romanovs? The killers already did a lot to make them hard to identify if someone did stumble on them, and removing two identifiable bodies (the young tsarevich and one of the younger girls) would help with that.
@Lia_goes
@Lia_goes 2 жыл бұрын
whenever I'm bored, I watch these history videos-
@chrisgeenadriver1631
@chrisgeenadriver1631 2 жыл бұрын
Surely I am not the only one disappointed that Bonnie Prince Charlie isn't in this video. That's who I think of when I hear Royal Pretender.
@emilybarclay8831
@emilybarclay8831 2 жыл бұрын
He wasn’t really a pretender in the modern sense, he was a claimant. He wasn’t ‘pretending’ to be anyone other than who he was, there was no fake identity
@SymphonyBrahms
@SymphonyBrahms 2 жыл бұрын
Or as he was referred to by some of the Scottish Highland chiefs, "That damned Italian".
@olyamereacre3326
@olyamereacre3326 Жыл бұрын
Bonie prince Charlie and Mary queen of Scots were pretenders too
@ladysamxoxo
@ladysamxoxo 2 жыл бұрын
In regards to The Three False Dmitri's, if you haven't checked out Jack Rackam's video on the topic (or any of Jack's video's really), you should. It's hilarious.
@manyagaver1946
@manyagaver1946 2 жыл бұрын
There is a great opera based on the story of Boris Godunov
@boyinblue.
@boyinblue. 2 жыл бұрын
I always feel bad for the children, they did not deserve what befell them.
@CherokeeBird
@CherokeeBird Жыл бұрын
It blows my mind that there are still "Royalty "
@hallievonscheele5531
@hallievonscheele5531 Жыл бұрын
It is truly sick to pretend to be dead children.
@sfernando04
@sfernando04 2 жыл бұрын
I totally love these videos ❤️⚜️
@craigrm74
@craigrm74 2 жыл бұрын
The Church of England has no say over requests to open the urn reputed to contain the Princes in the Tower. Westminster Abbey is a 'Royal Peculiar,' under the jurisidiction of the Sovereign not the Church, so the monarch has the sole right to decide.
@isabelgarrido6910
@isabelgarrido6910 2 жыл бұрын
Do more of this videos, please! 😁 Every royal family has pretenders, so I guess there's space to do at least 1 more.
@veronicazazueta6755
@veronicazazueta6755 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I very, very much enjoyed this video. 😊
@arvinroidoatienza7082
@arvinroidoatienza7082 2 жыл бұрын
"Why is it when men play their game of thrones, it is the children who suffer?"
@earlrobbiepalomar278
@earlrobbiepalomar278 2 жыл бұрын
POV: When You Fined a Romanov Imposter: AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WEE WOO WEE WOO WEE WOO WEE!
@jeraldbaxter3532
@jeraldbaxter3532 2 жыл бұрын
Great-grandmother Anastasia promised me that throne, that and her favorite casserole dish!
@tinas_hotdog_sophie
@tinas_hotdog_sophie 2 жыл бұрын
I always love this ONE portrait of Edward and Richard, and the other creeps me out the door. 🤣 The thrid one of them "sleeping" in bed is really cute but aren't historians unsure if it is meant to be them?
@AshleyMartin-f3x
@AshleyMartin-f3x Жыл бұрын
The princes in the tower werent pretending king richard 111 is a murderer he was the pretender
@00700A
@00700A Жыл бұрын
I have Dimitri for sell. Dimitri is in good condition after many fake daths. Price is low only all of Russia and few gold bars.
@justkeyslowed7876
@justkeyslowed7876 2 жыл бұрын
Fake it till you make it! Or not make it after all…
@mysticdragonwolf89
@mysticdragonwolf89 2 жыл бұрын
My parents have told me I allegedly kept had nightmares as a kid (4-6) of a white basement, chairs, red paint, dust, and ceiling I had no clue, I vaguely remember the dream Till I saw a documentary of the Czar’s family and execution and the pictures of the basement almost 10 years later and the memory of the dream came back I’m not claiming to be anyone, but the vivid dream and seeing a place I had never seen before plus my absolute fear of guns (age 4-13 till I saw Lord of the Rings and my fear of weaponry flipped and I collect history weaponry as a hobby) to the point my mom gave up Star Trek and Star gate for my sake
@clairefordzetterstrom9973
@clairefordzetterstrom9973 2 жыл бұрын
That's pretty interesting
@foIkIore13
@foIkIore13 2 жыл бұрын
I love these videos Lindsay ❤️ Keep it up! 🙂
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