CRYING YET AGAIN - Buffy the Vampire Slayer Reaction - 5x20 - Spiral

[@meio_feio]

"This shit is devastating." *laughs in season 6*

[@MrDWinter]

“Buffy” is generally a tremendously fun show. But it’s never *just* fun. “Prophecy Girl”, “Innocence”, “Passion”, “Becoming”, “Bad Girls”, “Graduation Day”, “The Harsh Light of Day” … it’s a show about growing up, and no matter how much we sell ourselves on that being “the best time of our lives”, it’s very often horrible. I’m a huge fan of S5 because it is so well-crafted, and the story (though often very dark and painful) is just so good, so right for “Buffy”. I hope you’ll come to appreciate it, but if not - well, it’s a big world with plenty of room for other opinions. I enjoy your reactions, and I hope you keep watching.

[@RunicMike]

Watching you descend into madness with each episode is oddly satisfying

[@Teeklin]

Your opening edits are so good. Just never want you to forget how appreciated the extra effort is for a quick gag that never fails to make me laugh. Keep up the great content!

[@faithvictoria9014]

I love that underrated moment with Xander giving Spike a light too! To me it really seemed like the situation was so bad Xander just gave up on hating Spike for a while in order to have some company. I always laugh when he tries to tell him cigarettes are bad: "you know those things will kill you" and Spike gives the look of someone who's died and come back to life already 🤣

[@enicole1203]

I think people love Season 5 so much because the writing and storyline and everything are just 😘🤌🏾💜 but that also means there are a lot of emotional hits. Because that's what great writing tends to do. But two things need to also be recognized. 1: Glory is fabulousness incarnate, and is absolutely delightful as the Big Baddie. 2: Buffy is a hero. So chin up! We're gonna get through this! 😊🥰🥰

[@painlord2k]

Glory is the best baddie all them all. But season 6 baddie is the most loved.

[@LaLunaRossa90]

my fav season is 6, can't imagine what you gonna think about me after watching it...

[@TerryNutkins3]

I love the opening rants 😂 but look at this way it can’t get any worse right? …Right??

[@crystalfire5564]

You know it’s your fault if something happens right?

[@jp3813]

I think we a can see a pattern about characters gaining happiness in this show by this point.

[@invadertifxiii]

now do we suspect there may be some kind of connection between ben and glory

[@chelsjones]

are you saying that ben is…. subletting from glory??

[@Theomite]

Like, a modem connection? Are they on the same Wi-fi network?

[@franckberanger3179]

Thank you for the « wake up you bitch » about Giles 😂

[@anomalykru8552]

I came to the comments for this I laughed so hard 😂

[@adamworld8823]

It's worth it just keep going

[@whitneytincher6016]

That’s the beauty of this season. It’s horrific. And it’s the first time we (the audience) have long term exposure to the true pain and struggle of the characters. The writing and plot makes you feel what they feel: struggling to get through, crying from grief and loss, fighting a battle that seems lost and impossible, wanting to quit and run away, but trying to push through for love. You become part of the gang and their story.

[@valentinogal781]

Poor Buffy.. 😢 She has been through so much! Being the Slayer is a lonely path. No one can relate to her except for Faith. Everyone depends so much on her that they forget she is only human.

[@DaDunge]

Not keep her promise? You underestimate Buffy. She is the thing monsters have nightmares about and death is her gift.

[@painlord2k]

And we knows Glory is not the smartest God of Heaven

[@DaDunge]

@@painlord2k Glory is not dumb her problem is she overestimates how smart she is and especially how dumb everyone else is.

[@painlord2k]

@@DaDunge She is so overpowered, she don't really fear anyone or anything. You start becoming dumb when every obstacle can be overcome with physical violence alone.

[@3dflux]

11:53 - Lexi, if you ever get a bout of imposter syndrome or doubt, just remember there is a reason you have so many followers. You are clever, hikarious, charming, and make such engaging content. You rock.

[@domie]

the title that describes the entirety of s5 really 😂😂

[@TheLexiCrowd]

Oh yeah haha just keep laughing through the pain

[@Nicamon]

@@TheLexiCrowd Oh,my sweet summer children...🌸🌸☀☀

[@ronfehr7899]

My guess is that Ben was born at the same time that Glory was imprisoned in his body, and that it took 25 years for her to finally find a way to escape her prison for brief periods. Hence her only showing up earlier this season. She must have already been in her human form when she was chasing the monks.

[@jesseclark3697]

It made for a funny contrast where you said here you were worried Dawn might die, then going back and watching your reaction to 5x2 again.

[@dutchkel]

Yes, the accomplishment of making us annoyed/hating Dawn to being upset at the thought if her death is quite amazing

[@DavidWright1138]

Look at the bright side! Before you know it, you'll reach the finale, and then you'll be just as invested in all this heartache in the new batch of reactors.

[@ferrisulf]

The knights are the weakest plot point of the season. I love the lightheartedness of Season 4, as you were mentioning loving. But Season 5 is just so well done. Very little seems out of place. The plotline is sublime. It has a lot of heartbreak, true, but it also has so many uplifting and moving episodes like Fool for Love and Family. So much amazing character development. It's okay if it's not as much your liking--as you said, fans are all over the place with their favs.

[@920215Gurra]

The knights just feels stupid, have they never heard about guns?? if they had magic swords or somthing it would have made more sense

[@Theomite]

@@920215Gurra The outfits definitely make the least sense. There is no way they could navigate the real modern world in those clothes.

[@AnatoleVGC]

"This show used to be so much fun". And that's how they break us .-. I honestly couldn't care less for the mass murderer in game of thrones, but buffy cry I cry. Starting slow is such an advantage for the heartbreak. I once saw a meme that said buffy season 1 to 4 fun(...) - season 5 (...)eral

[@cbe1737]

In case it hasn’t already been said, the writers acknowledge that Buffy becoming a cold blooded murdered in this episode was an oversight. So it’s canon to pretend that never happened 😅

[@dutchkel]

I call it self defense rather than murder.

[@cbe1737]

@@dutchkel lol good point. It never happened, but if it did…

[@TigerNightmare]

Buffy has killed humans before. She killed one of the Order of Taraka assassins, Octarus, by slashing his throat with an ice skate kick. She indirectly killed Gwendolyn Post by chopping off her Power Glove, which fried her with lightning.

[@Figgy5119]

And the hyena power harnessing zoo keeper. She tossed him into the hyena enclosure.

[@Talisguy]

It's ambiguous whether or not the Taraka guy was human - he seemed to be strong enough to give Angel and Buffy a run for their money and they both have super-strength - she didn't know that cutting Gwen Post's gloved arm off would kill her and it's uncertain whether the zookeeper's death was deliberate. She has killed humans by accident before, and deliberately killed people who may or may not have been human, but think this was the first time she intentionally killed someone who was definitely human.

[@TigerNightmare]

@@Talisguy He was strong, but he was human. He didn't do anything supernatural or superhuman. There was also the time Buffy planted the trackers on the two gunmen on prom night.

[@Talisguy]

@@TigerNightmare I still have my doubts about the Taraka guy, but, fair, the gunmen count. I forgot about them and she definitely got them both killed.

[@Girl4Music]

There was also Patti. You’ll remember her right? BUFFY: “Do you want to see my mom?” PATTI: “Please.” BUFFY: “MOM!”

[@rfresa]

I just read a crazy fanfic where instead of driving, they decided to run away to another dimension, and Anya just happened to have a book that would let them open a portal... to Pylea! They ended up meeting the Angel crew there, Cordelia made Xander her court jester, and it was extremely fun, but also scary.

[@andreduarte8372]

Link, please!

[@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502]

I'm interested also

[@andreduarte8372]

@@rfresa Thank you!

[@schloodie1942]

Can you please post the link, that sounds awesome!

[@chelsjones]

i posted the link to it but i think yt might have taken it down. it’s called: two roads diverged (and that has made all the difference) by RoseyPoseyPie on ao3 :))

[@Buffy8Fan]

I loved the opening joke with Spike. Xander and Giles were just wasting precious time and Buffy has every right to put any one of them in their places at any time in the series for the exact reason that she explained to Xander in _The Harvest._ "She is the slayer and [they aren't]," but concerning this situation specifically, Dawn is officially her responsibility in a legal manner on top of Buffy also being the slayer. If Xander and Giles want to argue until Glory appears in front of them, they are welcome to not come along. As Buffy said "He stays. Get over it" [and lets move out while we still have the advantage of running.] was what she the part she was telling them without blatantly saying it.

[@hardybryan]

Poor Lexi. This is only season 5.

[@Nicamon]

😂😂😂😭😭😭💥💥💥

[@CvSp22]

She retreated in 4x1 from Sunday and from Adam (where Forrest 'died'). Your Intro increases by one Minute every episode since The Body, so assuming a linear progressing we will be close to one hour in the shows finale😁.

[@menachemsalomon]

Giles is the original leaf in the wind. Giles pulled through, so the other fellow couldn't.

[@Fantasyfairy123]

I LOVED THE START, IT MADE ME LUAGH SO HARD 😂

[@killianlpc]

The show is now reaching boiling point. In Spiral, Glory now knows Dawn is The Key. Spike turning up in the RV is funny with the slit in the front window. The scenes with The Knights chasing the RV and the ensuing fight is great. The mistake of getting Ben to come to treat Giles with of course the Scoobies not aware he is also Glory. The General explains to Buffy why it is all happening, and that there is no way to stop Glory unless The Key is destroyed. When Glory takes Dawn we can see Buffy becoming catatonic with stress. The build up to the finale is superb, and it does not disappoint.

[@67Daidalos]

Yes, this thing about Glory being expelled then trapped in a human new born male for eventually dying at the end is a bit odd with the fact we were told there were calls for the meteorite thingy back to the Middle Age. My take is either the writers just shot themselves a bullet in the foot or voluntarily kept it blurry for having it bite us in the ass in a future season that never existed. My take to make it work is that, whenever Glory feels that the human body she's in is about to die (whether it's from illness or age) she can perform a kind of ritual that allows her to reincarnate, but as she's still under the curse, she can only do it in another newborn male, not her own body. The Key (and being back in her original dimension) being the only way for her to gain enough power to retrieve her own body and true immortality.

[@painlord2k]

A lance like that throw against a truck at that speed , it is better to be a very big scratch or he would be dead already.

[@sirmoonslosthismind]

ben only summoned the quellar that once. the quellar has been summoned in the past, but not by ben, who wasn't alive then.

[@blackkatt777]

If Buffy were to kill Ben for Dawn, after everything with what she went through with Faith and the mayor's minion, that would be hypocritical of her. It would also make the writers look bad at fixing a story arc problem with a contradiction that big. Ben is an innocent trapped in Glory's problem of a curse, just like Dawn is an innocent from what the Monks did to create her and force her into Buffy and gang's lives. I still don't care for her, though. Buffy protected lives in the van from death by killing those who would kill all of them.

[@Pathfinder197]

The appropriately named “Spiral” - such a great ep. Season 5 really was incredible, but oh the pain. Honestly when I just randomly rewatch isolated eps I’m more likely to return to season 4. Whatever issues people had with the overall arc and big bad, there are so many amazing stand alone episodes that don’t require therapy after watching.“Restless” and “Hush” remain in my top 5 favorite and best episodes list. Even the pain of “Wild at Heart” seems quaint now.

[@12chapin]

Keys are not use to separate, but to open. 🔑 🚪 Hello 👋🏻.

[@Nexusofgeek]

Is it the most stressful one you ask? LOL you know there are two more left.

[@painlord2k]

Let's say it is difficult to raise the stakes after you defeat a god.

[@Midna78]

Don't give up. I watched all 7 seasons a couple times, and I can tell you that season 6 is worth being watched.

[@frugalseverin2282]

You're full of criticisms for this season but there's been plenty of fun episodes. We had Dracula, a Xander clone, the comedic Dawn episode, Family, Fool for Love, Crush, Triangle, Checkpoint, a robot and Intervention. And yes there's a lot of drama too but the big bad could not be bigger or the stakes higher.

[@sebastianwittmeier1274]

Nice eyelid color! Well applied.

[@CaptNondescript]

'WAKE UP YOU BITCH!' 😂😂😂 As a Giles fan i also hated this episode!

[@spaceshiplewis]

Humans (and chosen ones) can still kill in self defence or in the defence of the innocent. It is in in the spirit of spite, convenience, pleasure, or revenge that murder becomes a problem for the immortal soul. But even then in true remorse and proper penance, you still have a chance of redemption. For if redemption is truly unattainable, there is no point in truly trying to live life at all. We shall all be condemned to survive in a box until our soul is released from the body.

[@Girl4Music]

Well that was cheerful. Thanks.

[@MartinGonzalez-ke9uy]

Great reaction as usual, cant wait for next 2 eps.

[@PJAvenger]

Crying yet again It's a song that may not end do you sense something else? You might save yourself? It might be German, I can't say, aber I might be Ben

[@AnatoleVGC]

Im considering becoming a patreon cause I feel responsable for the therapy you need caused by season 5

[@walkbyfaith2013]

I know this sucks so much right now but just keep watching.

[@steffanixoom]

season 5 is truly the season of Emotional Damage

[@Scarygothgirl]

Are you allergic to your mascara? I've never found it hurts to cry wearing mascara, I don't think it should hurt. Perhaps try a different brand?

[@allocat5867]

I always bounced off those knight guys really hard. So random so weird. Why wouldn't knights start using guns like all other soldiers did? Maybe they would make more sense if we knew more about Glory's origins, but oh well.

[@MrDWinter]

Same. I mean, it felt weird for them to even exist. If Glory just arrived in this dimension a few years ago when Ben was born specifically to be her prison … why is there an ancient order of knights to fight her? For that matter, why were there a bunch of monks who knew what she was about and happened to have the one thing she wanted and must not get? And why did neither of these groups write anything down about her and her deal, or reach out to the Watchers Council and the Slayer for some help?

[@TigerNightmare]

@@MrDWinter Glory wants the Key, but it is just a means to her end, it did not come into existence at the time of her banishment to Earth. The Key is ancient. The Order of Dagon, AKA the monks, were charged with protecting the Key because they believed it was sacred and held a greater purpose, something that wasn't really explored until the comics. If you didn't catch why the monks opposed Glory, it was because she sought the Key and she killed most of them before they made the Key become Dawn, and the last one died telling Buffy the truth. The Knights of Byzantium we don't know too much about, only that they were dedicated to fighting Glory and preventing her from using the Key because of the aforementioned apocalyptic interdimensional destruction, and destroying the Key regardless of its current form is the most obvious way to protect everyone. They use medieval equipment because they're a cult with devout traditions that include a forehead tattoo. Knight life 24/7, they don't put on khakis and work at Best Buy during the day.

[@JoeSmith-dh6se]

The commentary early in the video regarding magic vs natural health issues, and the ability or inability of magic to address them hits a bit hard. 😭 If you revisit this video in the future, you may be surprised at how prophetic you are.

[@Girl4Music]

Well don’t forget that one of the knights that died was killed by another knight. You know because he was insane and it was “mercy”. So that’s 9 dead. Yeah, let’s not do that to Tara as well. Killing your own is not cool.

[@Talisguy]

£10 says that the writers came up with the sequence where medieval knights besiege an RV first, then worked backwards from there to work out why there would be knights in this story at all. It's a great set piece, but to me, the knights are by far the weakest part of a generally stellar season. So much about them just doesn't make sense to me. Why do they still use medieval weaponry? It's implied that they've been trying to destroy the Key since at least the middle ages, and they kept their gear out of tradition, and one of the knights called the group "an ancient order." OK, sure, I can roll with that. It's stupid, but I can roll with it. ... Except the Key has only been human for a few months. Were they going to stab it to death when it was a blob of energy? Glory mentioned the Key could have been anything from a log to a bike pump - what if the monks had turned it into a stone? Were they gonna kill the stone? And why would there even be a millennia-old order of knights dedicated to destroying the Key to prevent Glory from using it, when we learn in this episode that Glory has only existed in this dimension for 25 years?

[@MrDWinter]

Exactly! Apart from the set pieces and a little exposition, we could have done without the Knights altogether. It would have made more sense for the Watchers’ Council to send in a covert team to try and kill or capture Dawn, and for Buffy to have to deal with that.

[@TigerNightmare]

I wrote about this in a reply to someone else, but the Knights of Byzantium's main thing seems to be fighting Glory and preventing her from causing the apocalypse with the Key. We don't know what they were up to before Glory was trapped within Ben. Probably burning witches.

[@sirmoonslosthismind]

you credit the writers with putting much more thought into the knights than i do. i think they just realized too late that it was a huge mistake not to give glory any minions who can put up a fight and came up with the knights to try to fill that gap.

[@Girl4Music]

I’ve been thinking about for awhile now if there was anything in this season at all that is a weak link. Anything I could take issue with. And I think I’ve finally found it. The Knights.

[@thesaferoom6968]

why does she keep mentioning ben? like him and glory have a connection? are you saying they are working together??

[@allocat5867]

S6 spoilers me: dreading season 6 if this season is depressing her

[@Girl4Music]

It’s a different kind of depressing though.

[@Girl4Music]

Posting my BUFFY REWATCH recap of ‘Spiral’. May contain spoilers. In the previous episode, Glory caught up to the Gang and because she brain-sucked Tara, Tara unintentionally revealed that the Key was Dawn to her. Now they’re on the run from her with the added complication that Tara doesn’t know what she’s doing, and so Willow has to take care of her at the same time of protecting everyone from Glory. She plays a huge part in the run from her. Both her magical powers and computer technology skills are sorely needed. She is very necessary to the predicament they are all in and is very effective at keeping everyone safe. Proving that she’s the only one really capable of doing so, while Buffy is scrambling about trying whatever she can and feeling like she’s failing because she’s ‘The Slayer’, and her duty is to defend them from Big Bads the likes of Glory. So the fact that she has to run away to do that really bothers her. She’s never had to choose flight over fight before. Her Slayer powers are practically useless compared to Willow’s magical powers in this situation. So Willow’s proving that she’s on the same level as Buffy as a warrior, if not above her, at this point in the show. And although Glory is insurmountably physically stronger than the both of them combined, it says a lot that only Willow can seem to keep her at bay. And the fact that she can do it all the while looking after Tara? That’s quite the astonishing feat for a girl who once upon a time was the damsel-in-distress and couldn’t even protect herself from a soulless vampire. Willow has grew into her innate power, for the better or for the worse, and is not someone to be messed with anymore.

[@natbatlightwood5288]

11:33 honestly me too. Every single time i see this Season i forget about the Knights. As good as the rest of the Season is the Knights always felt a bit pointless at worst and under-developed at best. I really wish they'd done more with them, like they are dangerous in this episode but i feel like they needed at least one or two additional episodes of build-up as i'm pretty sure this only the third episode they ever appear in.

[@Nicamon]

00:18 - 00:41 Me,but with"Once Upon a Time"expecially from S4B on.X-[ #OnceUponaWastedPotential 05:01 - 05:53 ❤🤍 09:02 - 09:11 Anya...!!😂🧡 *Me:* 11:18 - 11:19 *The Writers:* 11:19 - 11:23 (And this applies to both Spike and Hook&Hood from"Once Upon a Time"!X-PPP) 13:33 - 13:39 "You KNOW this is your fault for saying that!;-P"

[@heather9857]

I could make an argument to support Season 5 is the best season, but Season 6 is my favorite ;)

[@youcantleavethisempty]

There were too many actors in this show, they had a kill a few off now and then to reduce the payroll. Of course they save the most money by killing off the big stars, which is why season seven is mostly about the adventures of Amy the rat and that guy from that episode you don't really remember.

[@MicukoFelton]

Giles. ;_;

[@TriciaAnn86]

There's more better things coming up... no way this is the worst season 7th was good

[@Girl4Music]

There’s some information you just don’t need to know. Ben/Glory lore it that. Just make it up. That’s what I do. Canon means nothing to me.

[@erichunter7649]

S5 is outstanding, but it is significantly less fun than S4 was.

[@J7nty]

Nah I would say season 5 was pretty fun

[@proflcr8779]

So sick of all the complaining. If you don't like the show, stop watching it. Unsubscribing.

[@Nicamon]

You're being ironic...right?

[@TigerNightmare]

Good, fuck off with your irony.

[@FourTilSunday]

I think some of it is sarcasm, but she also might not like deeply emotional plotlines, and that's fine too. I personally think that season 5, from an artistic standpoint, is the best of the series. It's incredibly well done as far as the writing and performances goes. With that said, it falls toward the bottom of my favorite Buffy seasons as far as re-watch/fun factor goes because it's just so emotionally intense.

[@Nicamon]

@@FourTilSunday Personally I'd divide"Buffy"in 2 major arcs:Highschool Arc and Adult Arc.I'd make the Adult Arc start with S5 and,among the seasons of the Adult Arc,S5 is definitely my favorite and the one I've rewatched more often.S7 I think I've watched it only twice in my whole life(apart from 1 specific episode) and S6...there are _some_ episodes I've rewatched multiple times,but overall that's not a season I enjoy rewatching either.S5,on the other hand,has many enjoyable things for me...1st of all *Tara* 🤍 and 2nd of all my favorite Big Bad of the whole Buffyverse. 💗 Seriously,S5 is the only season of the Adult Arc that I'm *truly* able to enjoy.

[@ernesthakey3396]

Bye then...

[@dinosaurfan55789]

We're sorry lots of us in the Buffy fandom are sadistic and i don't know why we're like that 😭😭😭. But there are going to be SOME happy episodes in season 6 and 7

[@TheMrsWatcher]

It's almost like we think that love has to go hand in hand with pain and suffering... I wonder where we get that?

[@dinosaurfan55789]

@@TheMrsWatcher I wonder that as Well. 🤔

[@dutchkel]

@@TheMrsWatcher lol, nice

[@jp3813]

Happiness in this show comes w/ a price.

[@jp3813]

@@TheMrsWatcher BDSM?