CRYO NERFS! New class map changes

[@LumiereInfinity]

moving it to Central wont fix the issue. Used to have 80ms in the SA server. Guess im staying in dark and darker u.u

[@ttvgoober3367]

Still nothing regarding time gated legendaries and uniques. If anything, this might be a push for more rmt tbh. Sure they were overtuned, but its not as much of a problem if they werent specifically designed for no life or gold farmers to get on reset. Honestly, im not touching the game again if they change the legendaries drastically and keep the same system that they had.

[@vortraz2054]

"Reworking fundamentals of how the game is played" With this devs record of doing stupid useles sweeping changes that break and ruin everything they touch because they have not a fucking clue what theyre doing? Im going to assume they dont know what the fuck theyre saying either and that this means FUCKING NOTHING

[@viperstar6229]

Hellhammer doesn’t write at all in discord

[@richardpagel6959]

Oh no, they force more pvp on players and make pve runs not a thing anymore so I guess I am out of this game. I think this is a very bad idea from the devs. The game is struggling so hard to keep players and they simply tell one part of the community that they are not meant to be there. That is sad and as written in my opinion a very bad idea as this pushes beginners away who simply stand no chance against tryhards (the only part of the community allowed in this game it seems) and for whom pve loot runs are the only way to ever get any gold/items etc.

[@granddaddylurch9178]

I'm not trying to be mean but the game is a PvP game. Please don't cry about PvP in a game designed to be just that. Not to mention this game was designed to be an easier version of dark and darker. If you still struggle in this game PvP games just might not be for you. Don't blame the game for your shortcomings. Perhaps learning the game and how to PvP is the intention of the changes, but half the reviews of this game are people crying there is PvP and they cant just loot. Like the whole point of getting loot is to fight other players.

[@richardpagel6959]

@@granddaddylurch9178 Yes I know it is a primarily PvP game but still such games simply have to enable newcomers to even get into the game because there is no point for beginners to invest time (or even money) into such games if they will just get steamrolled over and over again by tryhards. You obviously did not got my point at all because you just think I am against PvP at all even thou that is not the case but that is the typical answer to such criticism. People just claim the other one does not want PvP at all while the real criticism is that the game is not balanced for good and fair PvP fights and because matchmaking simply does not work properly in DB (compared to DaD). I heard same stories about Chivalry and/or Mordhau, also PvP games, that almost died out because of that. Some tryhards killing entire lobbies of noobs all the time just leads to noobs stoping to play, i.e. never becoming better and thus the playerbase of such games is more and more shrinking until only the tryhards are left. If this is really what you, the community, devs want, go for it but than be happy with just 2000 players globalwide playing the game. Also you do not seem to understand at all that noobs do not learn the game by getting steamrolled over and over again by tryhards. This being said, such games simply lack game modes for beginners to really get better. And even thou it is the easier, arcade like, Dark and Darker, it is the much more unbalanced game because there simply cannot be balance when you unlock perks via stats. I mean DB fans really try to make DaD look bad and call it a "stat check" while ignoring that DB is also a "stat check" and even worse because of the perk unlocking system. But at least you are right about one point, most PvP games are not for me because I am depressive and thus have concentration issues that simply reduce my reaction time so I will never stand a chance against 12 year old kids or some ubernerd tryhards with XXXX hours in such games. The reason why I mostly avoid multiplayer games in general if they are focused on PvP but nevertheless I like the extraction part of DB and DaD but when people like you are the community that obviously do not want to have a big playerbase and thus want to push people like me away from such games, well, go for it and have fun fighting the same 10 guys in your lobbies because the game sooner or later will be dead or at least not attract more players with such an approach.

[@carterfn5939]

I’m glad they are focusing on pvp dark and darker has enough pve only runs. Perfect option for you

[@musaxsepplord7016]

People who dont want to PvP or can't learn in PvP don't Stick around to do that If they have to do PvE Farm Work for every try. Don't pretend that safefarm/stormfarming is in any way good longterm for the Game. That's just dishonest

[@richardpagel6959]

@@carterfn5939 Maybe not the perfect option but at least the better one, that is true. I started with Dark and Darker, tried Dungeonborne and at the moment I am playing Dark and Darker and spend no time in Dungeonborne anymore and I think it will stay like this.

[@kaihoukin2422]

dead game already and still thinking how to pretend pve player and let poor players bring there gear to pvp as soon as they reach the map. Joker dev cant see how much top gears spend in only one game. 2$ for 200k gold in one round and nothing remain if u dead, and try to 'hard pill to swallow'? Okay 7k players each day still too much, it should be 700 left next month.

[@notsoanonymousmemes9455]

They say that they are going to listen more to player feedback, which I hope they hold to it, reason people liked Dungeonborne back when was a Beta was mainly because back then devs did listen to player feedback in QoL features and mechanics much more, they need to listen more to player feedback and suggestions, it is the main reason people are leaving, because it feels like devs aren't listening, so some of these new changes sound good and they are now being more transparent, which is what we want, the community being listened to in their feedback, they are finally addressing our complaints so let us hope they turn the ship around, the game is genuinely better than Dark and Darker in several things, QoL features and combat is more enjoyable than Dark and Darker, flea market is more streamlined and combat can be more enjoyable compared to Dark and Darker Warlock kiting and Ranger landmine meta, but it is troubled in some of their implementations ehich leave much to be desired, it does not have fundamental issues, the game itself is good, the issue is in certain mechanics not being well implemented.

[@Sekker0]

Deadborn is a shit 😂😂😂😂 its a dead game