Crysis 2 Revisited: Did Consoles Kill The PC Magic?

The sequel to one of PC's most celebrated exclusives went multi-platform, with a huge impact to CryEngine technology and the core make-up of the game. Join Alex and John for an extended chat about what the title meant to them, how the console versions stacked up and how CryEngine evolved for multi-platform development.
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[@philscomputerlab]

Man I really like this look-back type videos!

[@EscapeVelo]

So say we all!

[@gvi341984]

I still want to see power consumption in videos

[@dazza2350]

Same

[@rainman3577]

I'm still waiting for that Crysis 3 video : (. I really want to hear your thoughts about it.

[@Saturn2888]

Now they've done videos on the remastered versions.

[@pravinbhorge7]

Music for Crysis 2 was simply amazing...

[@lostalx]

Hans Zimmer :)

[@TheBig451]

@@lostalx Only for the main theme. Every other track in the game was done by someone else.

[@DarthZombie12]

@@TheBig451 That other guy is [one of his many] proteges. This also explains why the whole soundtrack sounds so Hans Zimmer-esque.

[@hectormaciasayala1852]

All 4 titles were awesome in this regard. I had the menu songs in my mind during the shower.

[@UnchainedEruption]

It was the most lame, annoying, generic music that this lame, annoying, generic CGI action movie could ask for. Hans Zimmer did like *two* tracks that get stuck in your head because they always play every time you pause the game or start it up and go to the main menu.

[@lordjuhca]

Hans Zimmer only wrote the Insertion and the Epilogue pieces. All the other were written by Borislav Slavov and Tilman Sillescu ;)

[@Dictator93]

Yeah my bad for not giving proper credit there. THeir pieces are my favourite in the game!

[@MrInuhanyou123]

The RAM requirements of 360 and PS3(512MB) was just killer last gen. Its impossible to overstate how limited that could be to devs like Crytek who were used to PC. If they were to have made a Crysis 2 or 3 this gen, it would have turned out differently, as open spaces are much easier owning to the PS4 and XB1's ram capacity

[@cash_banooca17]

MrInuhanyou123 Their cpu's are still shit tho. Crysis 3 shreds modern CPUs.

[@MrInuhanyou123]

The jaguars are weak, but far more capable than Xenon or Cell in normal tasks. base PS4 and XB1 could pull off a Crysis 2 or 3 remaster at a solid 30fps with high graphical settings if optimized properly. But yeah, 60fps would likely be off table with those physics intensive rendering features.

[@cash_banooca17]

Yeah, you're right. But 30fps would be less than preferable. Especially with how fast paced Crysis is.

[@MrInuhanyou123]

eh, i think it would be "fine". Console limitations and all that, console users are used to FPS at 30fps in many cases(every FPS was basically 30 last gen outside of COD), although this gen more franchises have gone the uncapped FPS route instead to hit closer to 60fps since they have a bit more headroom CPU wise

[@cash_banooca17]

It would be tolerable yeah, as long as they wouldn't uncap the fps. I get horrible frame times in Crysis 3 when I lower settings because my CPU is dogshit alongside my 1070 in any CPU dependent game.

[@skypris974]

Being a console kid until, like, 7 years ago, I thought this game was the best looking game for quite some time and still think it is quite good looking. It holds up quite well, same as Blur.

[@raresmacovei8382]

Crysis 2 (on PC anyway) was IMO the best looking game on the market in 2011 (especially after the DX11 patch), even above Battlefield 3 and Uncharted 3. Blur though? It barely looked good enough for the average standard at the same. Dirt 2 for example or Need for Speed Shift were heads and bounds above visually.

[@ldjg-wb4mt]

I really enjoyed crysis 2, surprised i seem to be in minority.

[@duxnihilo]

ldjg2002 I enjoyed it, but the first one was much better.

[@ClayMann]

I'm with ya. Its a great game that totally deserves a remaster

[@bes5164]

i enjoyed it too :)

[@CYCLEGAMER1]

I thought it was an awesome game too, but I never owned part 1

[@claylomax]

My favourite of the series.

[@dominick951]

If they remastered the crysis games and actually optimized them. That would be amazing

[@sanji663]

remaster? even todays console cant play this games in 4k 60

[@glorious720p_2]

I’m curious to see how systems like the Nintendo Switch and Xbox one x could handle it

[@lauta_ro9580]

the nintendo would explode

[@Sceptonic]

lautaro I'm assuming youre joking, but if the Switch can handle DOOM 2016 then it can definitely handle a remaster of Crysis 2.

[@lauta_ro9580]

yeah but i mean 60 fps and everything on ultra

[@bartdierickx5150]

Crysis 1 was so underrated. All my friends just said that it was a technical benchmark not a game. They even didn't give it a chance. I loved it's freedom of playstyle and options to tackle missions. I loved Crysis 2 but not at first 1st. I missed the freedom so so much. But when I accepted that crysis 2 just wasn't crysis but it's own game, I also learned to love it in a different way.

[@superkingarmaan9875]

Bart Dierickx it is, including every other Crysis game.

[@syro2412]

Depends which game you play first tbh Crysis 2 was the first i played in the series and crysis 1 couldn't amount to crysis 2's level of badassery, and the aliens were so much scarier. Crysis 1 takes the crown away on the amount of freedom tho.

[@cypher7031]

SYRØ that’s something i see so few people talk about. C2’s idea played so much on the creepy and morbid that no alien presence in any entertainment ever came close to it for me. If they ever pulled a trilogy rework of sorts i’d love to see them play even more on that aspects. You can see the concept very well in the wall trailer. You turn your head and there’s hive of mechanical slimy squids lurking in the wreckage of the skyscrapers. Watching you with their LED eyes while tilting their heads in a sadistic way. Then a metallic stalker’s growl, who jumps at you with the fierceness of a terminator and the agility of a leopard, and your throat is gone. Just wow.

[@djmccullough9233]

Um.. "under rated"? Its known to have been the very last time there was a noticible and dramatic improvement in rendering technologies and game design. Id think the only person who would under rate Crysis, is someone who just does not understand what crysis is and was when it came out. Crysis was the birth of the modern shooter as all shooters itterated on Crysis's formula

[@AshtarSheran1]

I dream a new crysis on pc with last technologies.

[@stormyandcold]

It'd be cool, but, too many devs gone. Many of them are now working on Star Citizen.

[@xfx69xilly51]

Yeah like crysis 3 but crysis 4 would be something worth waiting for.

[@paul1979uk2000]

Star Citizen when it gets released could be another Crysis game, a lot of the fans of that game want PC hardware to bleed and beg for mercy before blowing up, so another Crysis in the marking lol, still should be something impressive once out.

[@stormyandcold]

+paul Aiello It better be impressive, especially when they're cheeky enough to charge $27000 for complete ships collection lol. Star Citizen is definitely no console game. Everything they're trying to do makes it a very premium proposition.

[@paul1979uk2000]

I've always looked at the money they asked for as support for making the game better but you don't have to pay that much, if you wanted, you can pay a low price and just get the game which I think is at a lower price point then what most games are on release, people spending more are doing it because they want a better game. In my case, I got Star Citizen and Squardon 42 at a low price of something like $30 very early on but I bought 2 other modest ships so spent about $100 on this game to support the development effort, I didn't want to go wild and spend a ton like some did but I don't see a problem with people doing that if it helps make a better game. In any case, if CIG gets this right, this game could blow away all the others we've seen in scale and the tech department and because gamers are getting to play it as it's being made, there is constant feedback from the developers and the fans so it's likely the game will be pretty good if not great as well.

[@austinkiernan0000]

Now this is one that needs a re-release. Edit: Console versions is what I was getting at. I know the PC release is still phenomenal.

[@dlbutters7164]

Why?

[@issamthemorrocanjackass2403]

Agree maybe remaster trioligy i love crysis series cry engine looks amazing

[@Kinoksis]

Maybe for consoles, but the PC version still looks amazing.

[@austinkiernan0000]

Rick Sanchez For consoles. Specifically the Pro and X.

[@austinkiernan0000]

Kinoksis Yep consoles is what I was getting at. At the very least backwards compatible with XboneX enhancements.

[@lain1129]

To be honest, Crysis 2 is my favorite of the series. I loved the city setting, and the desperate feeling the game started to have toward the end. It's also one of the only games I've ever played where the friendly AI was actually helpful. Those Marines during the city evacuation were amazing.

[@Kennykazey]

I remember running this on a laptop with an i5 and GT 620M 2GB. It was impressive in terms of how well it scaled to less powerful PC's. I got 720p @ 30fps with medium-low settings. And it looked good for what it was!

[@EposVox]

LOVE these discussion videos. Can't get enough of them.

[@konczdavid]

I'm a big Crysis fan. Crysis and Crysis 3 are among my favorite FPS games of all time (along with the Metro series, Bioshock games, Doom, etc.). I also very-very liked Crysis: Warhead that was made in my country, Hungary. However I can't help but feel disappointed every time I think about Crysis 2. There are many problems with this game. To start off, the first game's unique alien-design was completely got scrapped and got replaced with something much more generic. Something that you can see in low-budget sci-fi series or something. As for the characters, the writers killed off Nomad abruptly and off-screen (there's a comic about this, but still) and they replaced the main character for no real reason at all. It was huge negative for me, because in my eyes Nomad was just as iconic to Crysis as Master Chief to Halo or Gordon Freeman to Half-Life. I know it's very subjective, but it was a bad idea in my opinion. The location/setting also changed (and it had a huge effect on the gameplay too, but more about that later). The jungle setting was one of the reasons behind Crysis' charm. It gave the game a very unique atmosphere. In the second game we got f*cking New York. Really? A city that I've seen thousands of times in another video games already? Just to name a few: Grand Theft Auto III and IV, Prototype I-II. Crysis 2 felt like just another generic shooter in terms of atmosphere and mood because of that. But as I said, this new setting (and possibly the limitations of the consoles) had an effect on the core gameplay of Crysis as well. The first Crysis had a great wide-linear level design. There was always a set goal that you needed to reach, there was always a sense of progression. However you were able to approach given situations/sites/objectives very differently, there were multiple routes to take and there were enviromental destruction (among other things) that enhanced immersion and elevated the game to another level. In Crysis 2 everything is extremely linear. The game is much harder than the first Crysis because small places are packed with tons of enemies, but the game doesn't give you the proper tools to play the game effectively / stealthly, etc (even if it has a stealth kill animation now). The explorable areas are simply not wide and open enough. In the end, Crysis 2 most of the time just frustrated me rather than giving me fun. However I love Crysis 3. It perfected the gameplay loop of the first game and it blended the good ideas from the first game (wide-linear level design, heavy emphasis on stealth, many options) with the good ideas from the second one (vertical gunfights... well, that's all). It also blended the enviroments from the two games (jungle and city).

[@kplem]

agreed 100%, especially the "only human" mission in crysis 3, now that was a massive level with heaps of exploring, different pathways, sound, immersion and side objectives. playing that level on a 1080 Ti Ultra 4k with amazing sound just amazing.

[@nomercy8989]

But Crysis 3 was the worst game Crytek ever made

[@Tomiply]

I just replayed the trilogy, and I now think Crysis 3 is worse than 2. Sure, it's more open, but the AI is so stupid. I like the playful arenas of 2 more now. Crysis 1 is the best for sure, though.

[@Jonen560ti]

I also feel Crysis 3 is underrated, i played the demo of crysis 1 first, then Crysis 3 and then completed the original after that. The poor performance of the original really kills the experience for me, but maybe i can't blame them too much for that. however i also felt Crysis 3 was genuinely better in many other areas. The music definitely better in 3. Prophet was far more interesting than Nomad, it felt like there was more variety in the gunplay and the story over all was far better.

[@EldritchAugur]

I see this all the time and it doesn't make any sense to me. How is New York an overdone setting for video games? For Open World crime games like GTA? Maybe. But for Shooters? I literally can not think of one game besides Max Payne which was 20 years ago that takes place in New York. You name all these open world games but that is a completely different interpretation of New York. For GTA 3 and Prototype it's really like a cereal box interpretation of New York seen at a distance while diving around. In a shooter you actually get to see the city up close and personal and the step by step journey of Crysis 2, Half-Life style taking you through an entire day and night is intimate in a way that no other game in New York really has been. Jungle settings are not unique, Far Cry already did it earlier and since then Far Cry 3 and 4 did the same kind of motif along with 10 million survival games. Meanwhile I can not think of a single game that takes place in contemporary New York. This argument makes no sense to me.

[@Luke.]

The Crysis series is just perfect: - Amazing soundtracks - Breathtaking graphics - Awesome gameplay style. it only needed just a little bit more of love.

[@precelmusicandgames8667]

Indeed.

[@Legion849]

Truly it was an amazing series. Crysis 2 a game I will never forget and the day when I had to keep my PC open to stop overheating.

[@jimmyju76]

I've played and beat all three but honestly was not impressed, enter area, tag targets, silent kill, enter next area, repeat

[@UnchainedEruption]

Crysis 1 was the only good one, and even then I prefer Far Cry 1. I don't know how Crytek f**ked up so badly with the sequels.

[@markss367]

@@UnchainedEruption no it isnt c2-3 great games even better than c1 in some instances

[@TrevCCook]

I secretly love Crysis 2. Wasn't perfect, but man, I have some awesome memories from that game. And that music!

[@cypher7031]

This game holds a special place in my heart. Was introduced to it on Ps3, and there was something magical about it. Gameplay, atmosphere and soundtrack, and if you really get the story you can appreciate its complexity. Looking back clearly ps3 version wasn't optimal to play, enjoy it way more now. Will never forget the impact this game had on my life. Praying that one day this titan may resurface from the dust. Love the franchise and everything that made it what it is. P.s. Alex the OST was mainly made by Borislav Slavov and Tilman Sillescu! Hans only made a couple of contributions.

[@SteamPunk96]

this and other recent videos are EXACTLY what I've wanted regularly from this channel for years, along with DF Retro you guys have really hit a nice stride and I'm excited to keep watching.

[@Spinnekk]

Great video, guys - please do more of these.

[@Coypop]

Do a tech showcase on Killzone 2 & 3, still gorgeous to this day.

[@AppleTaco]

x2

[@mindphaserxy]

If you ignore Sony's blatant bullshots and HUD overlay on a cinematic trailer at E5 2005 lol. Yes both games look great but just like that 8 Days trailer it was ambition packaged in a CGI trailer

[@supermysticsonic2]

Ew

[@brajuhani]

They run like dogshit, why bother?

[@dlbutters7164]

It had the best music, to me, even after i beat it, i went to the menu and listend to the soundtrack... I freaking loved it

[@TUB3T3CH]

Crysis 2 menu theme still randomly pops up in my general playlist where I don't keep game music at all. It was that good that I had to immediately download that track and put it in my general playlist when I tried the multiplayer demo back in like..2009/10? Not sure when C2 actually came out.

[@jvani]

Wonderful series guys! Awesome job once again!

[@HueyTheDoctor]

You guys cranked out three great videos in less than 24 hours. I'm loving this new fast pace of uploads. Keep up the excellent work.

[@MrCaerbannog]

I remember the massive ****storm that erupted over the release version of this game being DX9-only, even though the last game had DX10 support out of the box. Of course, things got all better once the patch came out, but damn if it didn't cause some flamewars!

[@mrratchet]

I remember the Crysis 2 Beta. Alex do you remember the infamous "Press Start" for the PC build? Yeah, that was disappointing.

[@HadesTimer]

This is a great video. Really helping people remember how things were and what the circumstances were around those occurrences. Thank you. Wonderful work.

[@earthnugs]

Wow, I never noticed the different reload animations playing through this back in the day. What a brilliant detail.

[@darkchild130]

Having played the whole series through multiple times over the years, I can say Crysis 2 is definitely my favourite.

[@TheLegendarySchmidt]

Consoles have held back the gaming industry, but they also have revolutionized it. A good amount of games probably wouldn't have been made if it weren't consoles, but the games that are released now on PC would be more impressive, especially physics.

[@postscriptum8142]

Give an example, then MAYBE someone buys your bullshit. In 2003 - 2004 we got Doom 3, Half Life 2 while you still used the Ps2.

[@retrosoul8770]

Post you've got a point. I'd like to stress that graphics certainly aren't everything in a game as I dearly love the ancient 16-bit consoles to this day, but I'd be lying out of my teeth if I said that I didn't appreciate the evolution of graphics & and physics in games over the years and would like it to continue...

[@TheLegendarySchmidt]

Retro Soul Yeah. Sadly visuals are in the spotlight while AI, simulation, and physics are taking the back seat.

[@arisart22]

TLSPanthers Poor people held back the gaming industry which is the majority of players and not neccessarily the consoles themselves. If people actually got money, most of them would buy a high end pc. Just like the video suggest even pc gamers back then couldn't even run crysis properly as not every pc gamer owns a high end pc even today. Tech was always ahead of us.

[@Spaced92]

I can't really imagine some games being built from the ground up for PC, a lot of great fighting games, racing games, Silent Hill, Resident Evil 1-4, Devil May Cry, Souls games, every Nintendo game ever, MGS, some of these series/games have come out later on for PC but the reality is you rarely see anyone build great games like these as PC exclusives, they inevitably take on a different shape or flavour. Which is good for the industry, last game I played was MechWarrior 3, not exactly possible on console without it's own controller Steel Battalion style (which should have been a PC game). Don't blame consoles for Crysis 2 being shit, I don't even think Crysis 1 was that great.

[@Taeki]

Man those throwback videos are awesome!

[@philipdumas4435]

First, Digital Foundry is one of the very few channels I actually get excited about when posting new videos. Your content is phenomenal. Right up my niche alley. Second, being someone who owns a high end desktop, I would still love to see new versions of these titles, be ported to modern consoles. Possibly even a new title be announced for the franchise as well. It's one of the very last AAA shooter franchises I played almost exclusively for the campaign (Titanfall 2 being the last one)

[@PugLifeJM]

Man, I can't wait for Crysis 3 in next video.

[@Tomiply]

Good to hear you talk positively about motion blur. People seem to think games use the same, shitty motion blur as forever ago, but it can really help smooth out frames and give games the sense of motion these days.

[@Yellowswift3]

Great video, thanks. Looking forward to the next one. :)

[@arcticridge]

that's right, watching from 2020, *CRYSIS REMASTERED IS COMING!*

[@RiccardoTheBeAst]

I doubt it will be that good, i mean, i played Crysis maxed out in early 2008, made with Cryengine 2 (PC only engine), you can't imagine how impressive that was. Now i just think that the remake will use present day multi-platform engine, so it will be good, but not stunning, because you need a PC only engine 10 years ahead of other game engines, to make it GREAT again.

[@irenesilvadeaquino5621]

@@RiccardoTheBeAst remastered ain´t looking great...

[@rampage_sl]

Doesn't have high hopes for the crysis remastered ☹️

[@tonimaunde]

Aaaaand they screwed up

[@EVOXSNES]

That's the exact CPU GPU combo I used for Crysis, with a Striker Extreme motherboard :D

[@Oldschool_Gamer_]

11-30 Marco Corbetta and Steve Bender!

[@k1ngk4gl3]

21:13 Smooth, DF. Real quality.👍

[@LonkiGames]

Digital Foundry on a roll with amazing videos!

[@GriffinX81]

Crysis 2 was a miracle on consoles. I would love to see the Trilogy on PS4

[@dazza2350]

It's happening :D

[@Tcflohr]

I couldn't run crysis when it launched, my athlon 3400+ wasn't up to the task. I upgraded to the phenom x4 9850 and could barely run crysis, I think I had a GeForce 8600gt with it.

[@egoborder3203]

awesome work guys

[@KvnOrdnz]

Amazing video guys. What are the chances of a Dauntless Open Beta Analysis? Keep up the great work!

[@ludothorn]

the fist time i've play crysis I had a 9800gt!

[@suli559]

9800 or 980?

[@IgnacioGonOroz]

@@suli559 9800gt, gtx 980 is pretty modern, and crysis isn't

[@Schnyger]

Same! And honestly, it ran it fairly well...on a 720p monitor.

[@TheGabrielfaro]

I had a 7600 gt lol I don't remember exactly how it ran... But it was "playable"

[@hanselthecaretaker]

8600GT here

[@WNDRGaming]

Great video, guys - love it! Speaking of Cryengine... u guys planning to take a look at Hunt: Showdown? It’s another very interesting game with outstanding audio technology from Crytek.

[@r0ne85]

Did you make the follow up video to this for Crysis 3?

[@gatraidris]

Love the content of this channel.

[@user-qe7bt9dz1l]

"I'm a big motion blur fan." FINALLY someone who can see why motion blur is great! I've always loved motion blur when done right and I can't understand why so many people hate on motion blur...it looks great!

[@TyrannoWright]

Motion blur only works if it's implemented or used correctly. It benefits people who have have a fairly low framerate average and works on it's own if it's *not* used in a cinematic sense for others with high framerates. Source Engine games like Half-Life 2 have great motion blur compared to most games today that smother your screen to an obnoxious amount.

[@TheDownloader86]

pls make a video about Crysis 3 :)

[@unrealdevon]

These videos that look back are awsome.

[@DerBro117]

The reloads changing with the suit mode is so cool 💯

[@OrdinaryBastard]

I don't remember whether I played it first on PC or Console, but one thing I'm certain is funny achievement you get on Xbox360 after completion the intro mission, it says "Can it run Crysis?"

[@NativeWarrior081]

I always imagined what it would be like to take my PC and my 4K monitor and go back to the past with it like 20years. People would be so amazed by the graphics and frame rate, there mouths would be stucked open with a WOW impression on their face...

[@AshMcFarlane]

That opening theme is so good. Brings back so many memories

[@peterfox6159]

I totally love that you two are big Crysis fans :) Great video. Thank you so much!

[@DodderingOldMan]

Good to see some real appreciation of Crysis. It really was so much more than the graphics that made it a great game. For me it actually did stealth better than any other game, including the ones that are ostensibly in the stealth genre. There was nothing quite like creeping around, utilising all the suit's powers, and then striking from the shadows.

[@AdolfHitler-xp1nx]

for stealth C1 can't be beat if you actually use your brain with stealthing you can sneak by right up to objectives and finish missions without being spotted

[@alex.starostin]

I vividly remember first time playing Crysis 2 on Xbox 360 and being in total awe of the quality graphics on display. It's a miracle they even somehow managed to cramp it into Xbox/PS3

[@jerry64181]

Good optimization and care by developers can do that lol

[@imo098765]

@@jerry64181 do you know that game didnt run well on the 360, it dipped far too many times into the 20's

[@mattlandry]

Loving this mini series!

[@brybrycrivello]

Great work guys. Awaiting the crysis 3 breakdown.

[@A7ZATRU]

Played this game on 360. Was SO much fun.

[@killertruth186]

AZZATRU Same.

[@funployee]

Legitimately my favorite FPS ever. So good.

[@Tomiply]

funployee I guess you haven't played games like Half-Life 2, DOOM 2016 and the first Crysis?

[@funployee]

Tomiply am I not allowed to enjoy what I want to enjoy? Jesus.

[@GugureSux]

Played on PC. Got sick and tired it before finishing the first level. Uninstalled and sold the discs forward next day.

[@lilstalvi]

I would love to see a remastered trilogy released on current consoles. It’d be even better if they could port the three games to the latest engine, even if they retained original assets.

[@Saturn2888]

And now they exist :P.

[@tobsmonster2]

Warms my heart to hear talk of punishing P4 CPU’s with this thing. For me Crysis started on a 2.3Ghz Celeron D (a cut down P4, with no hyper-threading, less cache etc) and a nvidia 7600 GT. Even the menu’s were a slideshow.

[@Casomyro1983]

Damn, the tune at the beginning

[@leonthesleepy]

Crysis 2 is actually my favorite of the series

[@Zockopa]

Crytek suffocated intentional the "modding scene" with their community management after the release of Crysis 2. So today its easier to dl a fanmade half-life 1 or unreal map than one for Crysis 2 - and only very few good ones were made.

[@GameMasterpg]

2 vids in one day Digialfoundry is in very rare form today.

[@bingobongo1615]

Crysis 2 was the final nail ob the coffin of PC exclusive graphical showcase games. Graphic blockbusters for PC alone just commercially didnt make sense. Even today according to Steam only few % of gamers actually have a high end graphic card. So it doesn’t make sense to make games for that crowd

[@tydendurler9574]

Short answer: Yes! Next Video please. Hate topics like these. Just reminds me, how we are devolving since Millenium.

[@realchris4882]

Crysis Franchise was suppose to be on PC, and was amazing for the time and still is, now however, once you play the Original Crysis and warhead, and come back to this, you will be amazed just how terrible it really is., consoles destroyed the Franchise, created by Developers that just got too greedy, and underestimated the PC fan Base. Alienate your Fan base and abandon them, and they abandon you. You clearly see the difference in PC made versus Console Port. Two is NOTHING like the Original. Felt 110 percent like a console and optimized for console.

[@CellarDoorAU]

Digital Foundry, when will you be uploading your retrospective on Crysis 3 aka 'Part 3' of your series discussing the franchise?

[@leo-tg7350]

That Hans zimmer and the amazing gameplay and stunning graphics ....just wow

[@AntiSouless]

This makes me sad Crytek died and never did another game like Crysis one.

[@AdolfHitler-xp1nx]

there is a solution though :o crysis 1 + crazy mods + weed and hash bongs :0

[@wabachi]

actually is not because crytek but because EA got the IP and seen it didnt make money with crysis 3 and killed it...

[@RichtersShadow]

I loved Crysis 2 a lot when it came out. It'd be nice to get a release of the trilogy for modern consoles.

[@joeygreathouse3029]

True

[@mattdhargett]

When covering Crysis 3, you have to mention the stereo 3D support on PS3. The HUD showing enemy locations allowed you to see not only what direction, but get a very accurate idea of how far away they were as well.

[@nicolaiby1846]

This is an awesome breakdown of the graphical fidelity of the series. You guys are the shit.

[@SaadKidwai]

The Crysis 2 and 3 soundtrack hits me so hard. Will never forget the memories.

[@Anita028]

When Crysis 2 came out I hate the huge downgrade they had to do to the engine in order to get Crysis 2 running on console... we lost the volumetric clouds we had back in to 2007 and instead of that we've got the traditional dome with a nice texture on it... we lost the famous procedural destruction I remember myself chopping all the trees and foliage in the first Crysis and they had to cut it and also the water physics ocean had to be removed for a more traditional mesh animation with a procedural texture on it... it's sad... I will love to see a similar video talking about Doom 3... I know John covered Doom on all consoles on an amazing DF Retro episode but when Doom 3 came out we didn't have PC tu run the game properly my first experience with Doom 3 was 3fps with all the settings off and 640x480 years after I was able to play the game finally and years after to modded and even today the modded version of Doom 3 can look better than the new Doom also they had to cut so many features when they ported the game to console for the Doom 3 BFG version of the game and they re-release the BFG version of the game on PC but if you compare the vanilla/original version of Doom 3 on PC with Max Settings and the BFG version of the game you can see as well al the cuts they had to do because the console version of the game... so at the end... the BFG version of the Game on PC is worse than the original version of the game because the console version again.

[@detmer87]

Anita028 I can anyone recommend to install the MaldoHD mod for Crysis 2. This mod stays very close to the original intended look but the graphics will look much closer to Crysis 3. It's one of the best mods!

[@cosmocalypse3708]

Detmer CryEngine 3 was in no way a downgrade from the first engine. At all. You've obviously never used CryEngine before.

[@AdolfHitler-xp1nx]

modded doom 3 looks better than 2016 doom? links or laughter

[@Simonsavvi]

Hey does this channel upload on a schedule? at least sort of? How many videos should I expect per day is what I'm getting at :D Keep up the good work!

[@dreammfyre]

Hehe. It's funny hearing John talk about his plasma IRL. That TV is legendary if you've been part of a certain gaming forum...

[@adidas1984x]

Crysis 3 was my fav

[@sanhitasharma2853]

Nice way to say ‘Did console peasants ruined it?’

[@psipheryanalkamut2470]

What program are they using to modify the maps on Crysis 2?

[@MarshMellowChronic]

well done again guys, looking forward to Crysis 3 revisited.

[@ryanstorrs4026]

Still waiting for the Crysis 3 video...

[@nayyabmughal2619]

One of the best multiplayer experience 😁

[@ArabianFreedom]

I never played the MP mode sadly... it's dead!

[@hadarmosh2266]

So sad ea shut it down

[@TvojaStara1]

its a Call of duty copy, whats so good about it? mp in crysis 1 and crysis wars was much better

[@normanmapson1459]

One of my favourite ever series, Crysis 1, 2 and 3 allowed so much variation in gameplay ( stealth, speed, out and out assault, etc ) that is lacking in many games. Would love to see a sequel.

[@VargVikernes1488]

I love Digital Foundry. You guys are producing the best video games-related content on the internet, both PC and console-specific too.

[@shehrozkhan9563]

Crysis 2 still has one of the best game soundtracks

[@Krisztian5HUN]

Thx Hans Zimmer

[@kittyrules]

Hans Zimmer gets WAY too much credit for the score of this game the other composers did most of the work he helped create ONE motif that was it

[@shehrozkhan9563]

I don't care who composed it. I still love it.

[@Dictator93]

Indeed! My favourite track is not even from him! Rather, from Borislav Slavov

[@adroharv9213]

Crysis 2 is still absolutely bloody gorgeous at times and that's on just the 360 version. Very much enjoyed the game too. Crysis 3 similarly. Crysis is also rather good of course but I'm despite still being a lot of fun, I don't tend to play it that much these days I've got to wonder what the deal is with people thinking a game like Crysis 2 on the 360 somehow having an atrocious frame rate. The dips that are there are hardly game breaking and in no way reduced my experience. Fair enough that it bothers some that require absolute perfection but it's not game breaking like people bang on about The way Digital foundry are waffling on about here I'm guessing they can't go near an N64 then or PSX and Saturn for fear of passing out with disgust

[@Mozts1]

"never stop tearing" sounds like a great metal album.

[@jamesb7205]

did u try seeing the fps on xbox one? and if it was any different

[@Highlaw]

I think you're looking at it wrong: Crysis2 wasn't a sacrifice to make it run on consoles. It's Crysis1 that wasn't a viable product in the first place, yes it was more advanced than its sequels in many aspects, but there was no market that could actually support a game of that scope,(ONLY ultra-high-end PCs) and definitely not sequel after sequel. I don't think creating a "future proof" game is all that impressive, any AAA dev can cram in all sorts of simulations, advanced physics, attention to detail and amazing graphics without a care in the world about costs, how well it'll run (they can even make it so that no PC in the next 5 years can run it if they wish), and absolutely no care for optimization, etc. The REAL challenge comes from pushing the boundaries of what could be considered impressive while at the same time making a product that can sell (AKA recoup its costs) in a timely manner, and is viable for at least mid-tier PC's, without sacrificing their game design goals.

[@mrratchet]

Yep. Crysis 2 was linear and nothing like the original Crysis. Was utterly disappointed with it. Crysis 3 apparently is somewhat better but by that point, the damage was done for me.

[@V-Jes]

Nothing like the original? Have you played crysis 1 past the half way point?

[@mrratchet]

Yes I have. It was still a far different and better experience than Crysis 2.

[@mrratchet]

Nowhere near to the degree of Crysis 2.

[@V-Jes]

You know like the bad aircraft mission nobody likes that got even cut from console versions, the very linear alien invasion mission where they just swarm you with aliens at times with little to no cover or the final level where you mostly just walk in a very linear ship until aliens show up for a bad boss battle what all just screams open level design -_-

[@mrratchet]

You named 3 levels vs an entire game, not to mention the ending level of a game. What's your point?

[@lazaromartinez4097]

Wow! I built almost the same kind of rig for Crysis as John did! A Core 2 Quad q6600 with a 8800 GTX! As John said, those two are legendary!

[@aschraub9897]

Had some serious nostalgia when i heard that intro music

[@madfinntech]

I build a new PC for Far Cry and then I build a new PC for Crysis. Too bad we don't have that in PC gaming anymore. A benchmark titles like these that you want to upgrade just for that one game.

[@awesome9174]

MadFinnTech Star Citizen might be that game if it ever releases

[@Nick930]

...Battlefield 3 was a huge gaming benchmark everyone went out and bought new PC's to play it. Then it was Battlefield 4. Witcher 3... newer Far Crys... what are you going on about? There's a crap ton of truly demanding games that push the graphical prowess of video gaming forward, long after "Crysis"

[@Imgema]

FarCry 1 and Crysis 1 were some of my favorites as well. Both Crysis 2 and FarCry 2 made me lose any interest i had for these series,

[@AdolfHitler-xp1nx]

FC1 was dope........but FC2 on PC on hardest difficulty and using strategy was a terrific game....... ill agree on crysis 2 though made me shoot snot and laugh

[@dreamtreater]

I enjoyed this video. It's interesting to see your point of view coming from a visual and gamimg tech background. I never knew all that stuff when I played it, I just played C2 and never knew about console sacrifice gate. I can't remember if I liked it better or worse than 1 or 3. I just really liked it, and I played all three because I usually look for the best graphics. All three look awesome. Thanks for your insights.

[@dreamtreater]

o I did miss shooting up trees and all that physics stuff.

[@ThiccBoi711]

I’m amazed how good this looks 7 years later

[@raresmacovei8382]

RoyalRaptor Crysis 2 still looks good almost a decade later.