CTA - Gates of Hell: Ostfront - worth it in 2022? A review.

[@twiglets2]

Good news - it looks like you no longer need to own the original Call To Arms to be able to play Call to Arms Gates of Hell Ostfront. It used to be you couldn't play the game without the original Call to Arms which is why I mentioned it in the video but I'm glad to report that is no longer the case!

[@Gweb52]

lol I literally just put a comment about this an hour ago asking if I needed to get call to arms to play it . (I just started the video and wanted to know that before I made myself want it )

[@twiglets2]

@@Gweb52 You are the reason I looked into it! I vaguely recall someone else mentioning it and from what I can see you no longer need it. I'm not sure when that changed, presumably recently!

[@ursamajor7468]

@@Gweb52 My hero !! Thanks for that question. At 34 seconds into the video I looked into the comments and found the pinned replay. You sir, rock.

[@David-w3l3o]

I have a question I never played this game or call to arms or the others but i seem interested it is it really worth 34:99

[@twiglets2]

@@David-w3l3o that is difficult to answer if you have not played a game like this before. If you are curious my advice is to purchase men of war assault squad 2. The game is very similar to gates of hell Ostfront but can be purchased much much cheaper. If you enjoy men of war assault squad 2 then it is almost certain you will also enjoy gates of hell Ostfront. I hope that helps

[@johnclement189]

One of the most coolest and immersive WW2 Strategy game ive played soo far. i got a 15 hours gameplay after the first release and I'm loving it ever since. The game is also mod supported which made it better. I love this game.

[@twiglets2]

When I first played the game what struck me most was how detailed the units were. You can really tell they put a lot of effort into authenticity which I appreciate!

[@michaelhawkins7389]

@@twiglets2 I prefer Men of war Assault Squad 2 better but GATES OF HELL SEEMS COOL

[@ThrobRoss]

@@michaelhawkins7389how can you prefer MoW better, yet this seems cool? Saying this game seems cool implies you have never played it? Just curious because I’m shopping between the 2.

[@michaelhawkins7389]

@@ThrobRoss Because Men of war as2 has more maps , missions and mods from the steam workshop , its not all about graphics , and Men of war AS2 still holds up you have sirhinkels missions and Robz Realism mod just to mention a couple of mods for example that are great

[@michaelhawkins7389]

@@ThrobRoss I played a demo when it first released and watched my friend play the game a year later

[@dart6731]

Worth it? Lmao. This game worth every penny. Matter of fact I’d overpay to play this. True masterpiece

[@twiglets2]

I struggled with the multiplayer, mostly because I suck, but the campaign is genuinely genuinely amazing, really clicked for me!

[@dart6731]

@@twiglets2 multiplayer is challenging because it’s like playing chess against someone who tries to tactically outplay you. But once you get a good game going, it’s a new experience every time

[@twiglets2]

@@dart6731 So what you're saying is, this game is basically perfect haha The developers did a great job.

[@simonbirch5726]

Fun Fact when Downloading this game initially my external fell of my desk and broke, so I had to shell out another 150 for a new one (and a case this time) before actually getting to play ostfront. Still super worth it.

[@dart6731]

@@twiglets2 i would assume about 85% perfect. They need to tweak it little more towards realism and bugs here and there.

[@Flan17]

Great review! Didn't even mention the editor or the new factions maps DLC coming in the future. Truly an amazing game.

[@twiglets2]

Thank you! I kick myself every time for forgetting the editor, but even so, brilliant game! I need to check out the future DLC's...

[@aaronngonga3134]

@@twiglets2 xdr

[@ItsShane79]

I bought this game the day it came out on Steam (aswel as Call to Arms) I also have CoH and CoH2 and all its dlc's (and often play the Blitzkrieg mod). However I find it strange you compare this game to CoH and not even mention Men of War. The game that comes closest to Gates of Hell is Men of War: Assault Squad 2. It has the same mechanics, micro managing and logistical challenges. Personally I see Gates of Hell as a sequal to MoW:AS2, and I can't wait to get my hands on the upcoming Men of War 2. Looks very promising! :)

[@twiglets2]

Yes I agree re Men of War not being mentioned, it was basically an unintended omission on my part to not mention Men of War. A face palm moment for me, rather than intentional! I'm looking forward to Men of War 2 also - seeing as you've played many of the WW2 RTS big hitters I'm curious, have you played Foxhole? It's not strictly an RTS but it's caught my eye recently. A very interesting concept!

[@ItsShane79]

@@twiglets2 Thanks for your kind reply. And don't worry about it, making a mistake is only human. To answer your question: I haven't played Foxhole, but I knew of it, and its indeed a very interesting concept. I might get into Foxhole and try it out for myself at some point. I like the concept of prolonged drawn out engagements, fighting (virtual) wars of atrition. Also I think you deserve alot more subs for the effort you put in your high quality reviews. You deff. earned a sub from me. :) Can't wait for you to do a indepth review of Men of War 2. And would most certainly watch a: "Foxhole, is it still worth it in 2022?" video ;) I think that game deserves praise.

[@twiglets2]

@@ItsShane79 Thank you for getting back to me, it's interesting to hear your thoughts - and you're too kind about my sub count! I'll certainly be looking at Men of War 2 when it eventually comes out and you've persuaded me Foxhole is a good idea. I like the thought of spending an evening trying to progress a battle, then coming back a week later and finding it's still the same war!

[@zkkzuk]

Yeah its honestly just Assault Squad 3: Eastern Front lol

[@twiglets2]

@@zkkzuk haha pretty much, and it's awesome!

[@twiglets2]

Are you considering purchasing Ostfront? This may well be the next WW2 experience you're looking for! If you enjoy Steel Division 2 you'll enjoy the depth and detail of the various units.

[@BenTrem42]

A bit by bit comparison would probably be of interest to the gung.ho type!

[@nubtube7313]

I was late to the MOWAS2 party, but really love the game play it supports. Just got Call to Arms GOHO and have to say I am very impressed. Highly recommend this game to RTS fans.

[@twiglets2]

@@nubtube7313 I'm doing it the other way round, I have MOWAS2 on my wishlist but fell in love with Ostfront first! Do you ever find there are too many games with too little time? Oh and money, that's the main problem!

[@nubtube7313]

@@twiglets2 I still enjoy playing MOWAS2 because of the different factions, but Ostfront ushers in some pretty big improvements in realism like gun armor mechanics as well as the ability to use first person. I am sure you are well aware, but for any of your viewers that don't have the game yet, reading the development updates on Steam, or following the Developer is really worthwhile for anyone interested.

[@twiglets2]

@@nubtube7313 Thanks for the heads up! I'm looking forward to MOWAS2, hopefully there's a sale in the coming weeks

[@cesarmonaco7093]

Your videos in this in-depth review style are excellent! I hope you follow this path, congratulations on the quality work!

[@twiglets2]

Thank you for the kind words my friend, its comments like this that make it all worth while! Do you have any suggestions on which game I could look at next?? Suggestions are always welcome!

[@cesarmonaco7093]

@@twiglets2 This year will be very special for RTS games due to the great releases expected: Warno, Broken Arrow, Men of War II, Homeworld 3... So I think that due to the expectation that will be created around them it would be a good idea to make videos of the Homeworld franchises , Wargame, Men of War, etc... But be sure to cover the new games mentioned at the beginning of my message. As I said, this year is sure to be an intense year for RTS games and the like. Good luck!

[@twiglets2]

@@cesarmonaco7093 Thank you for the advice, I shall do that!

[@jmstudios5294]

Mowas 2 was the first wver pc game I bought, very similar to gates of hell, and I slowly learned and loved it. Over 800 hrs in like 3 years. The editor and mods are my favorite

[@twiglets2]

800 hours! Are you looking forward to Men of War 2?

[@johnnytopside9745]

Have you played the first Men of War? It has a great campaign that can be played co-op!

[@twiglets2]

@@johnnytopside9745 Yes I have! I actually played Ostfront first but played Men of War more recently. I'm looking forward to Men of War 2 next year!

[@axpa2771]

You deserve more subscribers. Amazing quality videos this one was amazing. The editing as well as the content make for some of the best reviews on youtube. You missed out Men of War but I see that was a mistake as you have said in response to other comments. Fabulous Review!

[@twiglets2]

Thank you for your kind words Axpa, it's comments like this that keep me making videos so thank you for taking the time! I'm glad you found this video useful and I hope you enjoy the future ones too! Next up is Frostpunk :)

[@michaelhawkins7389]

@@twiglets2 ITS MORE like Men of war Assault Squad 2 then company of heros

[@twiglets2]

@@michaelhawkins7389 Absolutely! I had originally intended to mention MoWAS2 but forgot to include it in the final script! Although I'm still happy to use Company of Heroes for comparison as I believe more players will relate to that game, even though it's not as close as Men of War

[@michaelhawkins7389]

@@twiglets2 I am sure its the same team who made men of war games :) and wow that is awesome

[@bigjimmyenglish]

I watch a fair few review channels, but this one is constructed and structured the best I’ve seen. Subbed.

[@twiglets2]

@bigjimmyenglish Appreciate it!

[@SymeonPhronema]

Wow, .. this review! This is probably the most thorough review of a game I've ever encountered on KZbin. Well done! You deserve way more subs.

[@twiglets2]

Thank you for your kind words! I hope it was useful and I'm always open to suggestions on new games to review :)

[@jimijimo3289]

Great video! been looking forward to picking up CTA for awhile but fortunately there was a sale making the bundle with Ostfront way cheaper than the base game full price. Great video looking forward to trying it out after the base game.

[@twiglets2]

Thank you, I'm glad you found it useful! Honestly Ostfront has a great immersive story - enjoy!

[@STiNkYh]

This video was amazing in quality, both from the presentation to the way you have divided up all the sections of it. Thank you for letting us enjoy such a good review. +1 Subscriber!

[@twiglets2]

@STiNkYh Thank you! I hope it was useful

[@haft0004]

Glad to have come across this video. Been waiting for something like this, but with tunnel vision on old CoH and not thrilled for newer versions, just getting various mods to fill that strategy game crave. This game and sleet division, for its bigger picture and scale and also Ostfront's FPS action blended in there. Will have to give both a try once a sale comes. Any recommendation for a the next game Ill be waiting for: A game slighter further on the FPS side of the RTS-FPS spectrum, same concept of this game but experience is of any one unit at a time in the middle of a bigger battle, but still hold that spirit of Strategy. Few games out there in a more traditional FPS like BF/HLL/Enlisted, but much slower with a RTS feel of scale and micro/macro elements like this game.

[@ursamajor7468]

The new COH version has gone away from what I loved about it. Men of War was my favorite of all, but CTA is essentially a better version of MOA, so hell yeah, finally going to pick it up.

[@gunhojput]

I have been a fan of this series of games since soldiers heroes of ww2 back in 2006 this game is the best yet, i am really enjoying the level of detail i like the fact i can slow the game right down and issue orders then speed it up for normal play fantastic feature fantastic game supported by fantastic developers, i look forward to other nations of ww2 being included eventually, thanks for the great review and making things clear to new and old players. much love to all.

[@twiglets2]

Thanks for the comment John it's great to hear from experienced players and those who are long time fans of the series, it's nice to get your blessing so I know the video is a fair one for potential new players.

[@donge9589]

I've just get a pc a week back mainly for this game as I also loved Soldiers heroes of WW2, and it's exactly what I wanted and more, I was blown away by the sight of a naval bombardment whilst my camera was right in the midst of it, the sheer detail is awesome plus I was in the slowest slow mo at the time issuing orders so I seen the shells arcing down, the sheer destruction is truly awesome. Do you have any suggestions for good mods that you recommend? I have downloaded Valor already as I noticed many mods need that.

[@twiglets2]

@@donge9589 Great to hear you're enjoying the game so much! I haven't tried many mods but I'm hoping someone else will be able to make some suggestions for you. But thank you for asking the question, it's given me an idea for a video which is always helpful!

[@donge9589]

@@twiglets2 great I'm always glad to provide some Inspiration even when I don't mean to. Great channel btw, I actually watched this video before buying GOH.

[@Kruppt808]

i love this game so much. This is what i thought the first Call To Arms i bought was promising me. Worth the wait and they have given me a WW2 RTS that i can play for the next 5 years. No other can give me that clang of the 88 shell burning up a T-34 or below or the massive bomb crater of rail way gun that i can run an infantry with a panzershrek into while getting shot at by multiple tanks and machine guns. Looting of bodies for gear, laying mines down, taking trenches with infantry by throwing 10 different exploding explosives...... easily the best game i bought in a few years. Since..... MB 2 Bannerlord.

[@twiglets2]

I'm curious what you would say to those who say this is just the same as MoW Assault Squad 2? Are there enough differences?

[@gustav8502]

Great video, definitely deserving of more subscribers!

[@twiglets2]

Thank you Gustav! I hope you found the video useful and please let me know if there are any other games that need looking at.

[@Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section]

I find it really amazing that the series still exists in the form it does. The very first game in the series, also based on the same engine, was "Soldiers: Heroes of World War II", released in 2004. This was not a CoH imitation, but rather a more accessible "Commandos". Because in this first part you only controlled a small squad of soldiers, it didn't yet stand out so negatively that you had to manage each soldier's inventory individually and babysit them all the time. But as you can imagine, such an overly complicated and micro-intensive system doesn't scale very well. And yet, since then, numerous developers based on the same engine have released plenty of CoH imitations without implementing the essential improvements COH has had since Part 1. Even the animations of the soldiers are sometimes just as unintentionally funny as they were almost 20 years ago. How the series could still be successful enough for so long is a mystery to me. I, for one, would like to play something else than the first CoH over and over again. Even if there are some great and interesting mods for this one, you get tired of it at some point. But the numerous CoH imitations based on the GEM engine are simply not a worthy alternative.

[@twiglets2]

Thank you for sharing. I'm not technical, but I have heard the engine on this game is very limiting, and is very noticeable when you play skirmish with several players, it just can't handle it. I hope Men of War 2 improves on this.

[@Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section]

@@twiglets2 I am not a "technician" either. I got my information from the PCGamingWiki. The problem isn't so much that they've been using the same engine for all these years, but that they've never used the money they've taken to significantly improve the engine on a technical level. A big improvement would be if, as a kind of "workaround", you could disable the inventory system.

[@ReviveHF]

They haven't finish the Modern Warfare themed Call to Arms, that game was the closest thing to the original Men of War gameplay experience but sets in present day instead of WW2 . Futhermore, it combines hardcore realism and fun into RTS game. The developers should finish that game instead of leaving it to Men of War modders to do it.

[@dropshot77]

Thanks! Great review. I was wondering to buy it after getting really disappointed with the original call to arms. Playing the men of war series over and over really got me bored. Long live the modders for keeping those games fun for so long!

[@Secunder]

Awesome review. Good voice, good montage. Actually fun to watch, especially as a fan of that series of games

[@twiglets2]

Thank you, I hope you found it useful! I haven't picked the game up for a few weeks actually, I know what I'm doing tonight now, thanks!

[@Secunder]

@@twiglets2 Good choice! Im already finished Faces of War and Men of War. After Call to Arms gonna buy Gates of Hell, thanks to your review. Have fun! And man, hope for more views and subs for you, quality content!

[@twiglets2]

@@Secunder Thank you my friend that means a lot! If you ever think of a game that could do with a review please let me know, I'm always looking for suggestions :)

[@vrlc9233]

I'll second "This is a very informative and helpful review", well done.

[@twiglets2]

@vrlc9233 Thank you, I'm glad you found it useful

[@dennisgordon7767]

wow awesome breakdown and choice of topics to cover. good luck to your channel

[@twiglets2]

@dennisgordon7767 Thank you my friend, I hope it was useful!

[@VIDE0G4M3Enj0YER]

Perfecr review. Ypu talked about evwry aspect and helped me on the purchase decision

[@twiglets2]

@@VIDE0G4M3Enj0YER I'm glad to hear that!

[@VIDE0G4M3Enj0YER]

@@twiglets2 you showed that hakf the gameplay is menu micromanagement. I am looking for an rts mixed with xcom where you only play 1 or 2 squads max. I tried the game out and everything you sad was true. It was to much for me.

[@koopanique]

Great video! However I'm surprised you didn't talk about the editor, it being one of the most fun aspects of the previous games in the Men of War series

[@twiglets2]

Thank you! I must admit the editor totally passed me by, I'm going to check that out, thanks for mentioning it

[@craurd]

Some quality review, I'm sold!

[@twiglets2]

I'm glad it was useful and hope you enjoy your purchase!

[@John-mf6ky]

Man, I wish I had a PC right now, this looks like my cup of tea. I've had the itch for some RTS strategy lately.

[@twiglets2]

It's a decent game, and there are others that are available or several on the horizon, it's a good time to have the RTS itch! Not so much without the PC though unfortunately :(

[@SimDeck]

Great stuff. Perfectly pitched. Thanks for putting this together.

[@twiglets2]

@SimDeck Thanks, I'm glad it was useful!

[@Icien1]

I really liked the original Soldiers: Heroes of WW2. This game is AWESOME. Kinda surprised it doesnt have better reviews.

[@jwilliams5256]

Best Men of War game yet. Would have checked it out a lot sooner than last week if I was aware it's a Men of War game. Nice review.

[@twiglets2]

Thank you! I hope you found it useful

[@jordanasparadoxproductions8401]

It's not it's a whole diffrent company who made this game but men of war 2 is coming out pretty soon in 2023

[@jwilliams5256]

The gameplay is almost the same. MoW clone then : D

[@m_zbrv3967]

This game probably deserve another review since they constantly update it one year after

[@twiglets2]

@m_zbrv3967 Agreed! Although I've been hoping they would improve the performance but as far as I'm aware there are still issues when you play multiplayer, it's a shame.

[@thegamehoarder6887]

well done review mate! first time I say this to a creator. Well done! Love your style!

[@twiglets2]

Thank you my friend, that means a lot! If you think of other games tht require this treatment, please let me know :)

[@MattStevens9824]

Thank you! I was looking into this because it's looks fun with a ton of depth and IT IS!!! Those sub-menus though... they seriously need some upscaling especially for players on a 24" monitor.

[@twiglets2]

@mattsims8281 I hope you found it useful! Yeah, the game feels a bit "early access" on some respects. But it's improving all the time!

[@MattStevens9824]

@@twiglets2 Much thanks for playing it and using accessible commentary that's friendly even to non-regular RTS fans. The ability to go 1st person was a nice touch. Could really make an impact in the grand scheme of a mission.

[@neandertal121]

The Liberation missions are some of the most immersive games I’ve ever played…maps are amazing.

[@BarbedwireGamedevStudios]

Excellent video. Thanks!

[@twiglets2]

Thank you! And thanks for making such an awesome game! Is there new content on the way? Would love to make a follow up video later this year as the game progresses.

[@HotRossBuns]

@@twiglets2 The only content Poor Barbedwire Studios is going to release is the content they are allowed to release/ told to release by the boardroom of 'Digitalmindsoft' If the community is lucky, they might see support in the form of patches and updates like they have over the last year. But only for so much longer. "As of recently, the Men of War series developed some bad reputation with greedy, copy-paste releases and whatnot. Yeah its a new developer handling the game this time around but they aren't out of the clear yet and I feel they are deemed to follow in the same footsteps. Stripping a game of content to profit later as DLC is terrible. Not only is it anti-consumer, but it ruins the gaming industry and is something that NOBODY wants in their games. I greatly fear that is what we will see with future content from these developers."

[@pyrobytee]

@@HotRossBuns atleast the game is fun

[@Myterriers]

Nice review. I recently came across this game on Steam special $AU12 for Osfront and $AU27 for the DLC Liberation. I have played Company of Heroes in the past but I like this one even though I get a bit overwhelmed with the action at times.

[@twiglets2]

@@Myterriers I get overwhelmed too. I think that is a part of the appeal as there's so much going on. How is the liberation dlc? I haven't tried it yet

[@Myterriers]

@@twiglets2 It’s great I like some of the comments when in first person view as a soldier ie throwing a hand grenade he say “ Greetings from Uncle Sam”.

[@officialGinemo]

Bought it this week and already got 19 hours in it. It is surprisingly detailed and the destruction is great as well.

[@twiglets2]

@officialnonas5448 Hopefully you have even more hours in it now! I'm curious if you've also played Men of War Assault Squad 2 and how you think the two games compare?

[@officialGinemo]

@marshalrommel2385 it’s standalone.

[@theonefrancis696]

I was sold at "you can control any unit individually".

[@twiglets2]

@theonefrancis696 it's a great feature!

[@dillonrock4528]

Thank you for the very informative video, What about Graphics requirements,shamefully I have the old Nivida GTX970M,and I’m concerned on its handling. I’m really interested in the game,but worried about extremely low FPS to the point of being unplayable

[@sharkquark6252]

Thank you for this great review, I’m considering to buy it

[@twiglets2]

Not a problem, I hope you found it useful and if you do purchase the game - enjoy!

[@sharkquark6252]

@@twiglets2 thank you!

[@The_Caledonian]

Brilliant review mate, you've convinced me.

[@twiglets2]

I'm glad you found it useful - hope you enjoy the game! Let me know how you get on, always interested to hear what people think after they've had a while to give it a try.

[@TheTryingDutchman]

00:42 you already convinced me to buy it at this point lol. Turnes out it is on sale, got it for 7.49 euro at Steam!

[@twiglets2]

@TheTryingDutchman Glad you found it useful! Come back and let us know what you think when you get a chance

[@peternilvarn3134]

Bought this game a week ago and I love it! 😃

[@twiglets2]

@peternilvarn3134 Glad you're enjoying it! Did you get any of the DLCs?

[@rubiepie]

Need help with the U.I it basically Abstract The Mini Map. And the Unit selection. Trying to fix it using the ingame Option doesn't work. And when I download mods that Change the UI it just crashes

[@JD-dm1uj]

Superb review, exceptional job!

[@twiglets2]

Thank you J D, I hope you found it useful!

[@flappy3635]

Looking forward to pick it up during the sales as I’m building a pc maybe I’ll get a dlc too if I really enjoy it

[@twiglets2]

@flappy3635 I hope you enjoy your purchase!

[@FiremanPC]

Great video, I really just wanted to know if there was basebuilding and found it immediately ;)

[@twiglets2]

@FiremanPC thank you, glad it was useful!

[@edzahrin7283]

Terrific review. Thanks.

[@twiglets2]

Thank you - I hope you found it useful!

[@mikes9781]

I've been trying to play this game for 4 months. I just downloaded GoH/OF, after trying to play the initial download. I can't find a "training manual", per se. A training manual word be ideal, as I could "word search". This video was extremely helpful, it's done very well. When Twiglets2 says "there could be some helpful hints", that is too true. It took about 30 minutes to get kitted out. On to the rifle range and I can't find a way for my private to shoot.

[@twiglets2]

@mikes9781 It's as if they're trying to keep it a secret!

[@rc59191]

Are there any games that let you play as the Polish and use Polish tanks such as the 7TP? They rarely ever get any attention.

[@tiagomoreira8742]

Great quality review , thanks alot, I like your work! Keep it up!

[@twiglets2]

Thank you my friend! I hope you found it useful, happy gaming!

[@tiagomoreira8742]

@@twiglets2 already in my wishlist :) I like to play multiplayer co op vs AI , not alot of people ?

[@twiglets2]

@@tiagomoreira8742 I find it stressful to play against other people against the ai and with friends is best!

[@tiagomoreira8742]

@@twiglets2 yeah PvP I used to play on coh2 but nota just co op vs Ai its l'ESS stress and more fun

[@mastercheif878]

A bit surprised you didn't mention men of war... feels like an exact "sequel" to that series

[@twiglets2]

I totally agree, several comments have mentioned that and I really should have included it! I had originally intended to but it re-writing the script several times it got missed out (very silly!)

[@mastercheif878]

@@twiglets2 nah it's nothing against you, I just found the game to be exactly like mowas2 when I played like a demo or something lol Kind of why I didnt really like it, since I found mowas2 a bit too tedious and detailed(in the sense that you had to literally inventory manage each individual troop but I guess that was the point: squad based rts. I'm more into Eugen rts imo tho)

[@twiglets2]

@@mastercheif878 Ah I see! Steel Division 2 or Wargame???

[@mastercheif878]

@@twiglets2 started out with wargame red drag then got into Normandy 44 but SD2 is a beloved lol currently just waiting for development in warno

[@twiglets2]

@@mastercheif878 Yes same with Warno, I've been tempted but keep holding off pushing the button to purchase. It just needs a bit longer!

[@ThrobRoss]

Is this a DLC? Can you buy the osfront as a standalone? Trying to research buying this and I can’t figure out if I need to buy three games and add DLC or just one?

[@joseesteves1309]

Good review. Thank you for this

[@twiglets2]

@josseesteves1309 You're welcome, I hope it was useful

[@scotchwhisky6094]

It's a great game. Also can't wait for Men of War 2 which is coming this year.

[@twiglets2]

Same it's going to be interesting to see what they do with it. Will it just be better graphics or some interesting changes to the mechanics...

[@Ramash440]

Have yet to watch the video but I went straight into the comments section and the mention of SD2 on the pinned comment pleases me because, indeed, I love SD2 (And MoWAS2, if it counts) and I'm looking to get GoH because hot damn is today's sale juicy. Hope I come out of this video with a yes, I should buy it. If not, oh well, still plenty of SD2, MoW and HoI4 to play in this lifetime.

[@twiglets2]

I look forward to hearing whether you make a purchase or not! I'm glad to hear you mention HoI4, I've got serious love for that game and just so happen to be listening to the soundtrack right now. Might need to make a video on that one too!

[@Ramash440]

@@twiglets2 Indeed I made the purchase. Filesizes were larger than I expected and it I had to leave it downloading overnight but I'll soon give it a try. But before that, I got an urge to play MoWAS2 since I mentioned it.

[@twiglets2]

@@Ramash440 I would be interested to know if you recommend MoWAS2 to somebody who enjoys Ostfront, once you've had a chance to try it of course!

[@Ramash440]

@@twiglets2 Having just tried the bootcamp and Trial By Fire missions of GoH, I can tell you that this game is basically MoWAS2 except it looks cooler and shinier, so I definitely recommend you get the other one. Some things to mention though, MoWAS2 can be a bit dated : all of the in-game tutorial videos stopped working and the devs never fixed it, but you can still find them fairly easily through KZbin or Steam forums. The first mission of every nation is basically a very cinematic tutorial on tactics, but not about mechanics. Also you don't get the over-the-shoulder/3rd person view on direct control, it's all played through bird's eye RTS camera. And finally, the menus are from 10 years ago and it shows. Other than that, they're both the same game with the added bonus that the modding community for MoWAS2 is pretty damn solid by now so you can find entire campaigns more easily.

[@twiglets2]

@@Ramash440 You sold me with the mods, I'll take a rummage through the Steam Workshop and see what they have!

[@gecko-v]

Awesome vide, keep up the good work.

[@twiglets2]

Thank you! I hope you found it useful

[@TokyoDan0]

Great review! Compared to the base game, and besides the theater, Is there anything new as far as game mechanics, game modes, etc. I don't care about the location, time period, or different units. I just want to know if Ostfront offers any new features, or QoL improvements.

[@noahjilderda9503]

Awesome video my man. im subbed!

[@twiglets2]

Thank you! I hope you found it useful, and enjoy the future videos! Suggestions are always welcome :)

[@BenTrem42]

Great review! thanks for the effort. Buy my question: okay, so you can control troopers individually. But when you assign a platoon or section to a mission, do they respond reasonably? or like brain-damaged lemmings? *--Dawks **_[PIR]_*

[@twiglets2]

Haha thank you for your kind words! In my opinion the AI is pretty decent, but not perfect (it never is!) There are definitely times when the troops do stupid things, like they won't all line up in a trench, one of them will stand next to the trench and die which is frustrating. But on the whole I think they respond well and I can't think of a strategy game where the ai is 100% perfect. Hope that helps! There's also a new DLC which I need to check out, exciting times!

[@BenTrem42]

@@twiglets2 That's really interesting. The way I described my experience: sometime FTL commands which way to go around a tree or bolder or whatever. But usually, not. Up to the grunt. Likewise SL usually leaves all that to FTL and below. But not always. Platoon leader almost *_always_*_ sees what the FTL does not._ So? the "little things" are actually kinda complicated and really do make a big difference! ^5

[@eurobeat5332]

what do you think of the dlc? Talvisota and Scorched Earth

[@LewisB3217]

With possible mods and conquest, it’s really nice

[@twiglets2]

I struggle with conquest, but I will get there, a lot of depth to the game!

[@123hskk]

I like the Dynamic Conquest since I can have my own Beutewaffe, I’m playing as Germany and have multiple KV-2s I killed and repaired to keep as my own. Hehehe

[@twiglets2]

Such a great mechanic, that's my tank now!

[@brankomilicevic6904]

Good video you've gained a subscriber.

[@twiglets2]

Thank you, I'm glad you found it useful and hope you enjoy future videos!

[@nickkozak4763]

what’s irritating is going around a corner actively looking but the enemy shoots you way before you even see them

[@discoverynorthcarolina9824]

I’ve enjoyed it immensely myself

[@WolverineMKD]

Oh you done this already... well i need to explore what you dont have to suggest more. ( Risk is a fun old game to review. )

[@twiglets2]

Haha yeah did this little gem a while ago, one of my favourite RTS campaigns!

[@David-w3l3o]

Does this game have custom game play like u can create ur own game match ?

[@nubtube7313]

Great review!

[@twiglets2]

Thank you my friend, I hope you found it useful!

[@ijabbs143]

IS it much better than the first Call to Arms game which seems to be missing something?

[@Kebabje]

I have only played Wargame Red Dragon, anything I should know? Is it also worth full price?

[@twiglets2]

@Kebabje This is very different to wargame red dragon. You might want to consider Warno if you are looking for something similar. Gates of hell Ostfront is one of the best ww2 rts games ever though. It's often on sale so I suggest waiting for a discount

[@Kebabje]

@@twiglets2 I have played steel division 2 which I disliked since so went so slow, Sudden strike 4 feels very locked. A tiny map with very locked objectives. I will probably play something like skirmish the most. The fps side of the game is also very appealing to me.

[@Kebabje]

@@twiglets2 Its literally on sale right now, thank you I would have bought it 2 days ago.

[@twiglets2]

@@Kebabje you're welcome!

[@Klotsuki]

Great video! very detailed nwn. Now, The only game i play like this is Company of Heroes, and I love it, but lacks realism and individual unit select for my taste, hehe. This game looks exactly what i want, but i have a couple of doubts. Can you name the soldiers?? And the carry over next mission? I just love to be emotionally invested, hehe. Also, how this compare with Men of War Assault Squad 2? And can you play as USA, British Army or Japan? Hope someone can help me decide ^w^

[@Arkolob]

nope just ussr and germany, mods can “fix it” but nothing base game personally i prefer mowas2, i think? i’m qualified since i have like 800 hours in mowas2 and abt 150 on goh, personally i don’t really mess with base game campaign, mow has much much better custom campaigns where as you say i find myself invested in a single squad as normally ammo is scarce and i have to scavenge and by the end i have a super veteranized well equipped squad, goh just doesn’t have the mod support dispite having better animations and graphics and much much better control i still prefer mow.

[@esteban4463]

​@@Arkolob Tienes problemas de fps con mowas2? Dicen que está mal optmizado

[@xjuliussx]

good review - but you missed to add the observation on how slow and animation for the plane is a bit ridiculous, instead of been a fast plane bombing / strafe objective or so on. Also the edge of map, is empty, not field of view, they could set some hills or more sky quality. Also you didn't mention about the size of the map, which feels small after a while. They need to increase the size of the map for the modding community to produce good maps.

[@twiglets2]

Thanks for those additional points, very interesting to read.

[@V0x_unaosvsn]

Do I need the base game to play it?

[@twiglets2]

You no longer need the original call to arms, you can purchase gates of hell separately

[@PossumMedic]

Thanks for the review!

[@twiglets2]

Thank you for watching - I hope it helped! If there are any other games you'd like a video on, please let me know :)

[@PossumMedic]

@@twiglets2 have you tried "The Troop" looks like a mix of RTS and table top war game. I'm trying to decide between the two but they both look good!

[@twiglets2]

@@PossumMedic No I haven't, thanks for the heads up - The Troop looks interesting! Only released a couple of months ago too which makes a nice change, I usually find myself playing older games. Whichever you choose, I hope you enjoy!

[@ordinalgaming102]

i have only like couple hours on ostfront, its basicly like men of war, mixed with warthunder, and steeldivision.

[@HansAlRachid]

I've been curious about this game for ages now, but it never seems to go on sale - or have I just missed every single sale this game has been in over the past year or so?

[@twiglets2]

@HansAIRachid I'm pretty sure it goes on sale every few months

[@HansAlRachid]

@@twiglets2 Sometimes I think I must be cursed when it comes to these things. Well, I'll keep on keeping an eye on it in that case! Thought it might be a case like... Kenshi, was it? Or Factorio? There's a couple Indies at least that have stated they don't plan to participate in sales or the like so as to remain at a price point that sustains further development if memory serves.

[@noahdegraaf8625]

Rely good vid, good arguments why you should or shouldnt buy it This game is also comparatable with men of war assault squad 2

[@twiglets2]

Thank you I'm glad you liked it! I kick myself that I didn't mention MoWAS2 when I made this video (more of a forgetful error than anything) but having made a separate video on that game recently I can see why people say it, they're basically the same game - big fan of both now

[@noahdegraaf8625]

@@twiglets2 yeah its fine, mowas 2 does have lower framrate tho and is off course from 2014 so the textures are off les quality.

[@hcohic9884]

back in the day i can imagine wasting my life on a game like this its too good to be true but now i dont think i have enough patience for a masterpiece like this with all its details

[@twiglets2]

@hcohic9884 Its true, I feel your pain! It can be fun to have a quick battle with hundreds of units slogging it out but to play the game properly is quite a commitment with the level of detail and stealth missions

[@hcohic9884]

@@twiglets2 its one of those games you need to really learn it in all its aspects to get the real experience its not a 1 or 1.5 hours sitting everyday after work .. its a vacation type of game where you need to sit for 3 or 4 hours

[@mattybizz788]

Great review 👍

[@twiglets2]

Cheers mate, I hope you found it useful

[@mateegri78]

Why didn't you say it's much more like Men of War, than the games you mentioned?

[@twiglets2]

It's a fair question, and one I don't really have an answer to. I can see on my original notes I was going to mention Men of War but didn't include it in the final video for some reason, a silly omission I guess. I've been planning to play Assault Squad 2 but haven't gotten round to it yet.

[@mateegri78]

@@twiglets2 Not sure, but I think this game even started as a MoW mod. Thanks for the answer. Great video btw!

[@twiglets2]

@@mateegri78 Thank you! - I wasn't sure if you disliked the video haha Any recommendations on which game I could look at next? Any advice is always appreciated!

[@mateegri78]

@@twiglets2 I liked it ;)

[@mateegri78]

@@twiglets2 Graviteam Tactics: Mius-Front comes to my mind first.

[@somenerd1182]

Just one thing, Ostfront isn't a DLC. It was released like that due to publishing issues.

[@twiglets2]

@somenerd1183 yes thank you for raising this issue. It's often brought up as the main criticism that Ostfront is simply a dlc of mowas2. I assume those saying it aren't being literal, but are saying it because they think that the game doesn't add much to mowas2, and in many ways has less content. But surely that view becomes less valid as Ostfront adds more and more content and refines itself even further. Such a great game, I hope potential new players read your comment to clear up any confusion on this!

[@ConradFiat]

Current day its somewhat worth it, don't do it for the mods as the devs ruined it. (Or so i've read.) Although, it has one of the most unique gamemodes it has to offer. From conquest to other fun playstyles. And if mods are properly made, you can have various amounts of replayability

[@twiglets2]

That's interesting, what have you heard about the devs ruining the mods? That's the first I've heard of this!

[@ConradFiat]

@@twiglets2 I've read all kinds of familiar things regarding bigger workshop mods. From zombie mods. Warhammer mods leaving for assualt squad 2 due to the code being "horrible to work with."

[@twiglets2]

@@ConradFiat That's a shame, mods bring so much to a community.

[@ConradFiat]

@@twiglets2 They sure do!

[@upshifttj8412]

Does the developer of Men of War series also the developer on this game? Cause the mechanics are almost all similar.

[@twiglets2]

I believe the developers are different but Gates of Hell Ostfront is based on the Men of War engine, so it makes sense that they feel the same as they started out the same!

[@tophmcgoph9229]

Dude this game has more features and options than all COH games together

[@twiglets2]

@topmcgoph9229 It seems underrated to me, I'm not sure why but it seems to go under the radar when it's such a cool game!

[@tophmcgoph9229]

@@twiglets2 honestly I think the complexity puts alot of people off...something like COH that's essentially a dumb down version of CTA, but for those who play CTA it's amazing

[@texastwostepgaming]

You sir earned a like and sub! See you at 100K subs!

[@twiglets2]

Thank you my friend, and for taking the time to leave a comment! I hope you enjoy the future videos too, let me know if a specific game needs covering!

[@Rozukosa]

geat video, but i still got an question, can i play with my friend against 2 bots?

[@twiglets2]

Thank you! That is a good question that I'm not too sure about. I think that you can, but I haven't tried it for myself I'm afraid. Sorry!

[@Rozukosa]

@@twiglets2 No worries, thank you :)

[@nickkozak4763]

just recently got it but i guess a mod with the maus.. it’s so fucking hard to win against at all even more when the enemy spams AA guns at the start

[@Ty-fs9tp]

Men at war assault squad 2 how you didn't mention it I have no idea considering it is literally that game with improved engine

[@twiglets2]

I originally intended to (it was in my original script) but somehow glazed over it when recording the video (duh) I haven't actually played that one (it's on the wishlist) but it could've at least been mentioned!

[@n0ne761]

I love RTS games but this game would be huge if it didnt have 2005 graphics

[@twiglets2]

Yeah the graphics are unfortunate, they look more and more out of date and I believe there's a technical issue where the game will only use one CPU core so a lot of your CPU just isn't used which is unfortunate. Don't get me wrong, graphics aren't everything, but I don't see how they can improve it significantly without a complete engine overhaul, so looks like they're here to stay as they are

[@n0ne761]

@@michelcivey4887 well compared to a game like Squad or Battlefield or Call of duty or any modern shooter you'll see what I mean by 2005 graphics

[@Aknayelth]

It's like men of war as2, kinda the same actually, but more it's a newer game so i guess i will buy it

[@twiglets2]

It's very very VERY similar to MoW AS2, in many ways it's the same game so if you enjoyed MoW you'll enjoy Ostfront!

[@m_r_lue]

Do you need call to arms to play gates of hell ostfront?

[@justin_case2067]

Who remembers the old blitzkreig games?

[@JeffAM1986]

This game definitely ranks number 1 for me and definitely blows our beloved Company of Heroes out of the water. I love playing with Valour mod. Adds many allied and Axis nations.

[@twiglets2]

I keep hearing about the valour mod, and it's positive things every time! I need to give it a try.

[@karlhungus545]

Well, it's $22 CAD right now for both (CtO and Ostfront) so I may get it. I just hope the AI isn't terrible as it looks like they just stand around a lot and don't even shoot back. I'm not interested in a 'turkey shoot' without a challenge...

[@twiglets2]

Be warned, the ai isn't amazing. But then again I can't think of an RTS that has GOOD ai so perhaps compared to other games not so bad - it depends what you've played before!

[@karlhungus545]

@@twiglets2 I bought it, but I'm really having trouble coming to grips with selecting and moving infantry, and using grenades and such in battle. Seems like an insane amount of micro. I got my as$ handed to me on easy, but I'm sort of determined to figure it out now...

[@twiglets2]

@@karlhungus545 I remember that feeling very very well, it is difficult! Everything is hidden away in the bottom right menu. Once you have some short cuts it becomes a lot easier and when you crawl you don't get spotted very much. Personally I ended up watching some videos on KZbin of players completing that same mission. Once I did a couple of those along with the video it really helped me figure out how everything works so I could try the other missions on my own. Let us know how it goes!

[@majormikhail1530]

Wish that the game would have better sales because the game may be good but price for it it's pretty huge even with sale on.

[@twiglets2]

@majormikhail1530 and also the dlcs are rather expensive

[@grugbug4313]

Solid! Top KEK!

[@twiglets2]

Cheers buddeh!

[@jordanasparadoxproductions8401]

i'm suprised he didn't even mention Mowas 2 while he was explaining the game in a nutshell

[@twiglets2]

Haha yes this was an unfortunate mistake that has been mentioned a few times (of course). I was meant to mention the game, but then ended up not doing so for some reason. Oops!

[@jordanasparadoxproductions8401]

@@twiglets2 its alright i was just a bit suprised since men of war was basicaly the start of these type of games. Either way loved the video

[@somethingtoputonpizza6667]

as a men of war fan I can say this is just men of war with more death animations and tanks/vehicles

[@twiglets2]

Does that make you tempted to buy it as you enjoy Men of War or do you think not worth it?

[@somethingtoputonpizza6667]

@@twiglets2 maybe if my computer can run it

[@raidermaxx2324]

LOOKING FORWARD TO THE YANKEE NORMANDY DLC FOR THIS DLC THATS ABOUT TO DROP!!!