Cummins Diesel Engine First Start

[@Etorresdeltoro]

@GinoJerry86 This is a boat engine. Marine engines use water to cool the exhaust gasses. Raw water is taken from the outside and pumped directly to an exhaust elbow and mixed with it to cool and to dampen the noise. That is why you see the water in the exhaust.

[@andr3i68]

I'm 22 now but diesels still sound just like when i was a kid....nice song for my ears:)

[@campate6237]

The sound of those takes me back to my teen years when out family had a Silverton with 2 Cummins. Great vid!

[@unheavenlyangel]

The water in the exhaust is the waste from a heat exchanger. The water is sucked from under the boat and taken to a heat exchanger which is like the radiator on your car but instead of air rushing through it to cool the antifreeze, it uses water. There is a closed cooling system filled with antifreeze on the engine like in a car and it runs through the heat exchanger and transfers the engine heat to the seawater that runs through the other side of the exchanger.

[@douro20]

@urbex2007 It doesn't have huge holes in it- it's a cotton gauze filter. It's designed for this type of application and as long as the media isn't damaged it can be cleaned and reused indefinitely.

[@thedominionx]

Ahh okay. I've only ever heard of cummins in trucks and transport trucks. Thanks for the help!

[@kananswamy8033]

Always nice to hear the great 12 valve 5.9L straight block million mile cummins engine. there no another to compare.!

[@sixmagpies]

FYI - 1) Diesel engine (high) main bearing pressures on starting are unaffected by installation, and only increase by less than a singular factor under full load. 2) The correct start procedure for a new (or rebuilt) h.s. diesel engine is to have first greased the mains etc. with pre-lube (maybe you did) and then ENSURE the engine starts immediately and evenly by doing a fully pressurised (forced) bleed. Piece of cake with the Bosch style pump. Larger engines pressure pre-lube.

[@ashcrags]

I plan to repower my Sea Ray 340 Sundancer with Diesel when the time comes. Thanks for the vid. Was very interesting.

[@fontheking5]

Cranking is just good , i love it . Rebuild engines always takes forever to start the first times

[@stevenbatley8666]

love the sound of a Cummins👌

[@pepsi71ocean]

because on marine engines the header is cooled by a water jacket, otherwise it would glow orange. So typically the seawater runs through a heat exchanger, and then passes through an exhaust manifold, which is called a riser, then is dumped in to the same exhaust pipe where it return to the ocean.

[@REXONATER70]

I like what u did. I have several marine cummins layin in my garage. After watchin your vid I got fired up and emptied the two car shop so I could get to my motors. I wil fire them up and respond in two weeks after p7100 pumps are cleaned and bench tested.

[@JasonWaterfalls13]

Nice! I see a good number if Bertrams here on Lake Michigan. Their quality built.

[@fgpriceinc]

I'm the father in question so maybe I can answer . The engines were marine engines , both had been overheated and were cores. They needed many new parts,like turbos , manifolds, wiring harnesses, most internals etc. ,not to mention the machine work. It was fun but didn't save much money really.

[@pt68picaso]

Glad you didn't doctor the video, and then us gear heads can follow the progression and cycle timing. The others are right, there ought to be a way to bled out the air from the fuel lines before running the starter so long. Had a Dodge Dakota 5.2L v8, obviously Chrysler. Changed the fuel filter routinely running the vehicle from age 12-16, the last 80K of the 220K life - gasoline engine. There was a way to depressurize the fuel rails. If I recall correctly, it was removing the starter relay. Then cycling the ignition which bleed the fuel out of the rails/line and I wouldn't get soak with gas when removing the filter. I think there's a pre-start phase where the fuel rail / lines are pressurized before turning over all those cylinders to otherwise the injectors are shooting blanks blasts of air rather than diesel fuel. So, otherwise the A/F ratio is sky high and you don't have sufficient fuel for combustion. Which in a diesel engine, it's an explosion, rather than a rapid burn in the gasoline (Otto cycle) engine. Within the gasoline engine there is a flame front that propagates from a point of ignition to the furthest extent the fuel resides. Imagine being in a coal mine where the air is saturated with coal dust because the ventilation system failed or is undersized. At a certain coal to air ratio the density is potent enough for a point of ignition, from flipping a defective switch. Then watch out. In your case, you're cooling cylinders that aren't firing. In your initial 179 seconds, you're running a large air compressor than leaks.

[@jmitc1]

I am a diesel fitter, used to work on the big leyland and gardner engines, after rebuild it was quite normal to sit there with the throttles wide open until you got the fuel up then they would pick up one cylinder at a time etc often a couple of mins tho even with that.

[@smiffy1071]

@Superiorpakfan It's a Cummins 6BT, better known as a B series. Where I work, we have several small buses with this engine.

[@robg182]

Miss building these, although i never built a 6bt for marine app, Used to build 6btaa with side mount turbo. In addition to the colour questions white was marnie, red or tan for automotive and also they did green reconditioned engines.

[@adensity]

you have to be proud of your dad !! - that some cool boat and engines.

[@BlackMasterRoshi]

No, they actually need to be painted in layers of different colors with varying protection values. Red has to go on first, followed by white and then finally all the paint must be stripped off and left to nice shiny bare metal.

[@mrcubcadet]

Great running Cummins! Sounds great!

[@pepsi71ocean]

the 12v's use a throttle control valve, the 24v's use an , and its electrical, the newer QSB's are also electronic, and don't have a "throttle", but that model year if i remember was throttle cable driven.

[@fgpriceinc]

The startup rig was made from an engine shipping pallet that I added wood blocks to , to lag screw the mounds to. Not really sturdy but with no real load on the engine it worked OK. That's one of the reasons I didn't open the throttle to bleed it, I was a little afraid it would rev quickly and come loose

[@hasturhasturhastur]

That's a beaut rebuild. No surprise if the first start is a bit cranky. I want a bigger diesel now, I miss our Cat D8 with donkey engine starter. Sounds great!

[@fourOHtwo]

its a 5.9 5.7 cummins c series i think a great engine ive had the pleasure of buildin a few simple and bullet proof as with any mechanical engines

[@MatthewWRealtor]

Nice engine great sound. Took a bit to get her going but it sound like she will purr for a very long time.

[@joaopizza93]

I know nothing about marine engines but it's impressing, there's a lot of water :S

[@spencerblocher4320]

Its a 12v Cummins Marine, so its water cooled. Hence the water hose connected to it.

[@pepsi71ocean]

All inboards typically are freshwater cooled, using exchangers to cool off the coolant, then the seawater is run through the headers, and then through the riser where its then dumped into the exhaust pipe, this is the only way to drop the pyro temps, ANY mechanic who works on marine engines knows that, the exception are stacked ships, where the seawater isn't mixed, but rater sent overboard, when the exhaust pyro temps drops to a safe level.

[@JTyler52]

man I love the sound of deisel in the morning. I cant wait to work on highway and off road deisels.

[@killer2600]

You have to prime the fuel system and injectors if they are dry (ran out of fuel, never been filled with fuel, or opened to air), all other times it's just turn key and go.

[@Lalann]

@ilovegoatsecks It's supposed to since it's a marine engine. Water is run through the exhaust to keep them cool.

[@uscar17]

that starter took a beating

[@fgpriceinc]

It's a marine engine. The cooling water, after going through the heat exchanger etc. , exits with the exhaust , mixes downstream. of the turbo, in the elbow.

[@yamahonkawazuki]

even if your a seasoned engine builder you still do a lil happy dance when she fires

[@emergingit]

I don't see how Cummins can be the worst boat engines.? They are one of the most popular marine engines used. Thats a fact. If they were that bad that wouldn't be the case. The Cummins B series engines have an incredible record of reliability and durability. I agree on the Cats.

[@douro20]

@jac70j No glow plugs in a 6BT. It has a grid heater.

[@MRSketch09]

Appreciate the response.. but it's kind of hard to believe it would take that long for the fuel to get to the injectors. Anyways, thank you.

[@jordan9594]

cummins 6bt...best engine ever freakin built

[@wolfc70]

It is a Marine Diesel. Water is used to cool the exhaust manifolds.

[@pepsi71ocean]

in the US we tend to use a wet exhaust system, because it works very well, it is the only way to cool down exhaust, especially coming from diesel engines, where pyro temps are usually 500 degrees hotter then in a gasser. Cummins Mercruiser, like Crusader use freshwater cooling, with a heat exchanger, like i said earlier, maybe i didn't make my self clear enough?? I am a diesel mechanic, i work on diesels, and ive been around enough CAT and QSB's, Detroit's to draw circles on most people.

[@feesh89]

@GinoJerry86 it is a engine for a boat, its cooled with water

[@wmk1975]

that is a nice set up for a 33'

[@REXONATER70]

275hp RV injectors reduced the ETC engine's 0-60 time from 17 sec. to 14.5 sec. Available from TST. Available from Cummins - BOSCH part# is 0 432 193 635, cost is $80 each plus shipping, instructions are not included. Installation time: aproximately 1 to 4 hrs. depending on experience (it's not difficul

[@HeresJamesPrice]

Thanks. You should hear it in person.

[@HeresJamesPrice]

Marine engines draw water (for cooling) from the body of water they are in (in this case, a hose). Once it is circulated, it gets dumped out of separate channels along the exhaust.

[@todornicolov1]

Thanks for the comment! History is the kinematic mechanism of existing structures. Our engines are smaller but more powerful and more efficient. Live is life, and develop internal combustion engines. Also change and fuel - would rather use hydrogen. The future is coming with us! Kolev Motors Varna / Bulgaria

[@BiggRob1221]

damn that sounded nice when u put the camera by the exhaust pipe, great job

[@thadutchguy]

I love that sound, I've been on a transportship that has a Cummins V12 (size was about 2 times bigger than this engine) but that sound was really great! also electric started:)

[@victorpinilla]

@ GinoJerry86 estemotor es posible que sea utili8sado para una planta de energia ...el diseño del turbo de este motor es de refrigerasion por agua de ahi dela carcasa de escape del turbo debe ir una mangera asia un radiador mas grande que evite el recalentamiento.

[@davidblalock9945]

Can't say I like the Martha Stewart white paint job you got going on there.

[@HeresJamesPrice]

Both engines were installed last year and have been working flawlessly. Thank you for your interesting comments.

[@HeresJamesPrice]

@RocketRodder Yes, normally both engines are used at the same time.

[@briancraig81]

Ben folds five, I think the song is "Brick".

[@HeresJamesPrice]

@scott93257 Thank you for the compliments. I appreciate all technology.

[@emergingit]

This is a marine engine so yes it uses a heat exchanger and then raw water to cool the system.

[@sillysid123]

this is the engine that the dennis dart pointer has

[@yamahonkawazuki]

Youand your father did quite well my friend. a job well done. 5 stars

[@N8-T]

@GinoJerry86, the reason water is coming out the exhaust is because its a marine engine, they pull water from the lake, river, or ocean and after the water passes through the block to cool it, it exits out the exhaust back into the water. i dont know were this other guy got his info, either he has no idea what he is talking about or he is screwing with you.

[@215alessio]

Sounds super

[@HeresJamesPrice]

We checked it several times and it remained cool. The rest periods are also edited out of the video.

[@MooseBaker]

Starts like a Cummins !

[@fredriktaaje]

Very nice sound on that Cummins :-)

[@Spieler1991]

I can say just 3 words: BIG, loud, powerful. :) Nice work!

[@sandblech]

we rebuilt the thame engine 6BT5.9-n best regards from germany

[@fgpriceinc]

And your video is , where? BTW, the starter never got hot, had lots of time to cool off but was edited out of the video. Not so sure I agree about the main bearings...Did you notice it's not actually installed in the boat in the video?

[@PremiumFuelOnly]

@crazydiesellover yes, its got a marine cooling package on it.

[@jac70j]

@caddy52 Diseal engines dont have spark plugs .They Have Glow Plugs

[@snickerdoodle1361]

Where can I find a heavy duty starter like that?

[@MuscatelTom]

for a while i thought it wasnt going to start

[@needlenitz18]

fuel wasnt reaching the injectors yet, it takes a while for the air to pass through and suck the fuel through.

[@TAbronco78]

he was priming the fuel , did you see him turning the injectors has to be done on every first start if its a diesel

[@sunfm]

@HeresJamesPrice dont know where you got your information from but you are incorrect sir. the water in the exhaust is because the engine is cooled using raw water (ocean or sea water) from a pickup in th boat and it goes out the exahust to cool the exhaust and the exaust sometimes goes into the ocean water to disperse.

[@HeresJamesPrice]

These are now in a Bertram 33.

[@HeresJamesPrice]

@D13fledermause To my knowledge they are not sold white.

[@Theorelo]

Very nice .. would love to see the boats they where in stalled in ... and do you use a smaller diesel engine for a generator?

[@JasonWaterfalls13]

Nice sound! But why use a Cummins in a marine application? What size vessel are yo putting it in?

[@NFreund]

I would love to, but i'm over 4000 miles away :D I have to say, i am a cummins lover. And even if they rev high, those are very reliable engines (for what i have read^^)

[@fgpriceinc]

Thanks, Yes.

[@jblsound13]

sounds and looks really nice!

[@organicmuscle1]

There are no glow plugs on a Cummins B series engine, instead it has a intake grid heater.

[@pinoyeh]

Hey, prime the fuel pump, ensure the glow plugs are heating up then crank the engine in 3 seconds interval. You might burn up the starter and costly repair.

[@NFreund]

thats such an amazing sound...!

[@dave194315]

The water is pumped in to cool the engine and the waste water is pumped through the exaust

[@thedominionx]

I'm curious to why so much liquid (water?) is coming out of the exhaust. Is that because of perfect combustion? It's obviously a diesel so most likely perfect combustion, I'm just amazed I've never noticed a truck disposing of so much liquid.

[@spinaway]

I love all the comments regarding the engine leaking, its a marine engine, its supposed to have water exiting from the exhaust you dummies.

[@pal05pmajor3]

Very nice. Whats this engine's governed speed just out of interest?

[@Mikesky10]

some knows if there is a video about PT Cummins Injection Sistem, or where I can find some information about it?

[@pvcarmon1]

Was that built out of a 5.9 L found in dodge trucks. Your dad most likely used preium rebuild kit parts for a marine application. That looks like a mechanical fuel system right?

[@pepsi71ocean]

did you bleed the system? it sounds like this guy didn't bleed the system, and instead is just running the starter until the air cycles out of the system. But that ain't a VP44, it looks like an older 12v P7100IP pump on that engine, so it doesn't as much damage to run it dry like it does in the VP44's

[@pepsi71ocean]

I also work on gas engines, i have a thousand photos on my facebook and myspace showing all of the work ive done to my Cummins powered pickup.

[@JimTurnerTech]

Nothing beats a hummin' Cummins! Love that sound. What are the horsepower and torque ratings of this particular power plant?

[@REXONATER70]

It is a 330b diamond series. The hp rating is only 315 hp. If u need advice on injectors just tell me what u got or buy diesel power magazine.

[@MuscatelTom]

im pretty sure it was built for marine applications and those have to be water cooled through the exhaust to keep it from overheating... yet i could be wrong... can anyone confirm this?

[@ProAce50]

no i mean CO2. the CO in the raw emmissions is, together with the remaining Oxygen, transformed to CO2 in the cytalyzer. In words: carbondioxide. And that is not toxic

[@pepsi71ocean]

ALL inboards, and io systems use wet exhaust, its more then just noise reductions, could you imagine the heat that manifold or header would put off it if wasn't cooled by water...

[@cobradude0102]

very nice job can i put that in my dodge. if they are twin screws does one turn backwards . ford did that with there fe motors (427 marine).

[@yamahonkawazuki]

@rthom86 aye, tehn after that, the engines compression takes over the ignition duties. these engines are gems my friend, never thought id like engines in whie. btu you know what. tehse thigns look, AND RUN great

[@HeWhoCarts13]

I'm not sure why there is water being expelled from the exhaust pipe. Is it condensation? Other wise five stars!