Curing Chronic Pain: A Whole Person Approach

[@Rajan-t4e]

You atleast knew when it started. I am suffering since 1989 and I have no idea but you and Howard make pure sense.

[@bp0ppa-]

For anyone having trouble understanding because it seems like poor quality audio: use headphones or a good speaker. The audio mix here is heavy on the low frequencies and most laptop or phone speakers will have a hard time reproducing them. Most headphones or bluetooth speakers should have no problem and the audio should become much clearer for you.

[@MigthyDucksz24]

It's not the audio that's the problem, the audio is good, it's the fact that he talks way to fast and doesn't enunciate words properly, that makes it difficult listening to.

[@clearconsciencepet680]

Life changing. Watch it and read the book.

[@reactivatedforever]

Thank you for sharing your experiences and for the enlightenment surrounding the effects of chronic stress. Profound findings.

[@starsoulsandi]

AMAZING testimonial

[@enerjeffic]

So how far does this go? I see dental surgery with a 5-13% chronic pain rate. Almost 5 years ago I had a "Toothgate", where after an extraction the tooth next to the extracted one felt weird and numb, then over the months started to hurt. I had it pulled even though they said there was no problem with it because I was desperate to "get my life back". It didn't help. I've been to pain clinics (like Rush U. in Chicago) with no help. Then 16 months ago I had "Toothgate 2", where on the other side of my mouth I felt a snap when I got distracted while biting an apple and was sure I had broken a tooth. For a few days it didn't hurt, just felt out of place, then I felt a snap when running my tongue by the area and could feel the pain just starting to flow. Since then 9 appointments by 7 different doctors have yielded no diagnosis and I have been told I "definitely" did not crack a tooth, even though my pain is debilitating. Been on 15mg/day hydrocodone for a few years now and am guessing hyperalgesia might be a factor. Have been able to reduce my dose on my own several times, all the way down to half (7.5mg/day) then something happens to irritate my "pinched nerve" (my best guess) and I lose my progress. Finally got someone to agree to pull it tomorrow (and do I ever wish I'd seen this talk sooner!!!!). I'm obviously scared, but seeing this talk begs the question about can even things like cracked teeth and other dental pain be treated this way w/o surgical intervention. Any thoughts? Success stories?

[@YinTeing1]

I wish there are more doctors like you. It is sad that most surgeons would be more interested to recommend back and spine surgery as the solution to pain. Just two days back, one of my mom's friend passed away. She underwent a spine surgery for her pain which failed and it resulted in her being bedridden. She was a person who fiercely value her independance, active and was driving around well into her 70s. The failed surgery destroyed her quality of life resulting in eventual deterioration. Despiite being a free spirit, she also had a lot of unresolved anger issues. I wished she had addressed her inner issues which may cause the pain instead of opting for the high risk surgery. The rigidity and black and white thinking you have described also fit the profile of people who may develop Alzheimhers. These are from cases I have observed of those I know. So it is either pain or Alzheimher's, both which result in total loss of quality of life for suppressed emotions and childhood trauma.

[@rls4072]

🎉WOW🎉 I've had depressing PAIN for no apparent reason since 2003. I managed without medication until 2009. The medication I take is a four hour fix, this is the current situation. I'm Quite willing to do ANYTHING to escape this strange situation with PAIN. I feel this is the answer. I'm Grateful for an open mind. 💫💫💫💫💫

[@nurtureulifecoaching3226]

Wow! This is amazing

[@peggyharris3815]

Glad to see something new from you! Wish you had a pain clinic in Skagit Valley.

[@DrDavidHanscom]

Hi Peggy, Thanks. We may be holding one on the West Coast in a few months. Best regards, David Hanscom

[@rvnmedic1968]

Is this method applicable to me? I have L4-L5 Spondylisthesis, HNP (surgeon said the disk was "squashed"), stenosis. I watched GMA this AM and it was noted that patients with structural problems (like mine) are not good candidates. Is this true?

[@crh251]

Yes, this method is applicable to you! Many people have what you have but have no pain at all. Chronic pain is like digging a trench in the soil. Those trenches get deeper and deeper as you dig. You want to change that pattern within your own brain. Nicole Sachs had the same thing as you and got over her chronic pain by expressive writing just like Dr. Hanscom believes in. You can find her also on KZbin. Also get Dr. Hanscom’s book. Good luck!

[@rvnmedic1968]

@@crh251 Thanks.

[@gabytemp7408]

Wish you were in Australia.

[@djmoorephx]

Darn. Another one that has poor audio. Can barely hear it.

[@DrDavidHanscom]

Hi Diane, I just listened to it on my computer and the audio was OK. It was professionally recorded in England. I am sorry that you are having trouble hearing it and sorry that I don't know how to help out on this one. Best regards, David Hanscom

[@djmoorephx]

I just tried it again. I have the volume all the way up but can barely hear it. I've listened to others and they come through OK? Weird.

[@DrDavidHanscom]

Hi Dianne, I am really sorry. It is one of the better talks I have been able to present. Let me know if you find the issue. Best wishes, David Hanscom

[@djmoorephx]

I sat close to my computer and listened (like to lie back, relax but the sound is low). You mentioned that people who have fusions not only do bad but much worse. That is my case. The surgeon missed a fracture on the MRI at L3, decided that my back was horrendously degenerated, started a fusion from L1-L5 and found the fracture at L3! Couldn't put rod/screw at L3 and continued on. Couldn't do rehab. Another MRI showed screws lying loose in my back so surgeon did the 2nd fusion, removing hardware and putting in larger rods/screws. He ruined me. I haven't been able to walk since. I have no balance. I'm a mess. My back has broken down above and below for which I had kyphoplasty in thoracic area but that, too, was unsuccessful. It fell so I have fractures on top of fractures. It feels like the nerves are twisting around the spine since 2016 when L5-S1 fell (deteriorated). This past spring a Catscan showed I have developed scoliosis. The back incision is so deep now, I can put my finger to the first knuckle into the incision due to the twisting of my spine. I listened to the idea that pain is mental pain (anxiety) but I'm still unclear what you do about it? Is it merely a process of following DOC? How does that resolve the horrendous destruction of my back from two unsuccessful and unnecessary surgeries? I agree that I have not forgiven the surgeon who ruined me. I used to walk alone or with a cane. After he got through with me, I can't get off a walker. I'm bent over like a horseshoe and have little balance and horrendous pain. I was on opioids, then went off them for two weeks but couldn't stand the pain/anxiety and for the past yr have been taking a reduced amount (overflow from ones that were Rx'd before). But they will be running out soon, and that creates anxiety like you explained when drugs are restricted. Question: How do you change the anxiety if you can't change anxiety? Are you saying journaling will calm the nervous system? I have a hard time believing this as I've journaled all my life. I've had 10 yrs of therapy throughout my lifetime. I've analyzed everything in my life. Journaling doesn't seem to click anymore. It doesn't do anything? It's like putting words to paper without any result. How do I overcome two surgeries that ruined my frame? How do I sleep when the nerve/muscle pain keeps waking me? An EMG/NVE test in Nov showed nerve damage at L5 both R & L. I'm lost. My PCP refused to "sign off" on medical marijuana but I found out I don't need her blessing and have an appointment this month...but I don't have much hope because the nerve pain and the muscles that feel like bamboo that will break is there 24/7 and I don't want to sleep my life away (how marijuana reacted on me in my 20s). I'm writing because I'm desperate. What do you recommend? I tried to find an email address for you but couldn't so I'm posting all this online in desperation. Thank you.

[@DrDavidHanscom]

Hi Dianne, I am really sorry that you are having so much trouble and I don't know your situation well enough to comment in detail. I would have to see you and I am retiring. I can only say that the book is just a book and the writing is not the solution. It is only a starting point. The key is to learn the strategies that change your body's chemistry and pain does decreases as well as your sense of well-being. Probably still not going to be what you want from what you are describing but often much better that you are. Your scenario is one of the main reasons I am stopping spine surgery and doing what I can to decrease the number of ineffective surgeries. Again, I am sorry about all of this and best wishes. David Hanscom

[@mixi1141]

I cannot believe that. Seems to me like another marketing stuff for selling a book. Sorry. How can I change the physics of my spinal bones simply by some kind of meditation...that is impossible.

[@lukeskywalker7461]

You obviously don't get it if you think he's saying meditation changes physics. You need to read his book.

[@crh251]

Mixi, you’re not changing the physics of your bones. That’s impossible. You are changing the neural pathways in your brain causing the pain. He was making more money doing spinal surgeries than writing a book. Besides Dr. Hanscom, look up Dr. John Sarno, Dr. Howard Schubiner, Steve Ozanich, and Nicole Sachs.

[@lukeskywalker7461]

@@crh251Despite the similarities and blessing from Sarno, I wouldn't put Ozanich in that group. He's almost verbatim Sarno, the others (I don't know about Sachs) have added to and progressed the work.

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