Why the Deep Sea Frightens Us

[@Tyrexthecreaturedesigner]

Even though I have Thalassophobia, I’m kind of obsessed with gigantic sea monsters hiding within the watery abyss

[@madtechnocrat9234]

Have you heard of a game barotrauma?

[@Tyrexthecreaturedesigner]

@@madtechnocrat9234 sadly not

[@Tyrexthecreaturedesigner]

@@madtechnocrat9234 please tell me more

[@madtechnocrat9234]

@@Tyrexthecreaturedesigner kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXWWk2SgepZsd5I&ab_channel=BiffTheBear

[@cocoschannel2668]

Same

[@GrayMajik]

I like how you are expanding the scope of the channel recently. Speculative biology projects are cool, but I think your recent videos on broader concepts are what has really been standing out. It allows you to insert your own creativity and style without solely focusing on someone else’s work, and they have just seemed more unique and worth watching.

[@Coolproko]

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[@Lumberjack_king]

Exactly 😊

[@Coolproko]

nah

[@AlexandrePereira-cr6hx]

Its cool seeing them expand but I kinda hope CA still does videos about spec projects

[@alexpaleale]

This channel has introduced me to a whole bunch of incredible projects so I hope to see more of that. A genre is like an ecosystem; it requires others of its species to survive. We need more videos about other people’s projects

[@mailleweaver]

For me, Subnautica was not just about fear, but about overcoming fear through understanding. The more I learned about what was in the depths, the less scary they became. And the more I learned of the dangerous creatures, the less scary they became. It gave me deeper insight into myself. I now know more about the mechanisms of my own fears and how to face them, appreciate them, and work through them.

[@Kligor2]

I wish I could say the same lol its not so much the fear of those creatures that scares me but the imaginary ceatures my brain says "what if?" like I know theres no gargantuan leviathan alive in the game without mods.... but what if? Also god help me if I get bit Ill throw something in fear lol

[@patrickflesner526]

Kind I’d like a type of Exposure Therapy

[@peabrain6872]

I wasnt very scared in Subnautica personally, cause it wasn’t meant to be

[@lgamradt]

That’s called fear of the unknown. Fear starts to vanish as soon people get to understand what they are looking at.

[@RoamingSimp]

I want to say the same if it’s not that I almost broke my computer when I first found Reaper

[@nextcaesargaming5469]

This video reminds me of a tale my Father (a Marine Corps veteran and, more recently, a retired police officer) sometimes recounts from when he was active duty in the 80s. Dad was scuba diving in Okinawa, Japan, in the year 1985, nearby Camp Courtney. He and three other guys were in the water for about thirty minutes, two to three hundred yards from shore, before they came back to shore. While standing on the docks, unloading the gear from the boat, his buddy gestured with a "hey, look at that" and Dad looked up to see a fairly long flatbed truck on a nearby roadway, driving right to left up an incline, and on the flatbed was what looked to be a very, *very* large fish that was partially covered in what looked like a tarp, it's tail-end long enough that it was hanging off the back of the truck. There were two locals riding on the top of the strapped down fish as the truck went along as if they were riding a horse. The next day, the guy who had said "hey, look at that" walked in at where Dad was working on the Marine Corps base, and the buddy tossed down a local Japanese newspaper on the desk. Once again, he said "look at that", and what was on the paper was a photograph of a Great White Shark on the back of a truck, with it's mouth winched open and one guy sitting on the back of the shark with the rope holding the mouth open and another man standing next to the mouth. The mouth was so large he could have stepped into it. The newspaper had the date on it, which showed that the picture was from the day before. His buddy said, "That was the 'fish' from yesterday. It was in the same bay as us while we were in the water." Suffice to say, my Father has NOT been scuba diving since.

[@Blksammy4488]

Yup and that right there is why I do not fuck around in deep water. 😂

[@fisherfoster6032]

Yeaaaaah i completely understand why he stopped 😂

[@Johnboy33545]

@@Blksammy4488 I won't trouble you with where most shark attacks happen.

[@jaymevosburgh3660]

I'm pretty sure you can just tickle the shark and they'll stop. I remember reading that somewhere.

[@coopachew]

@@jaymevosburgh3660sthat’s thats reassuring ahh crap they don’t even have exposed testicles to shamelessly attack might as well be super man or an elephant that you battling

[@samuelhawksworth1923]

I was once swimming in Greece checking out the awesome fish when at some point I became aware of how deep I was. I looked out away from the shore and it was absolutely giant. The blue went on for what seemed like forever, like anything could come out at any second. This is probably what introduced me to the intensity the ocean holds

[@MrVibriocholerae]

Next time you are in Greece, rent an underwater ROV 😊

[@samuelhawksworth1923]

Sounds fun!

[@greystash1750]

And think that’s only the med which is relatively shallow… Imagine the Atlantic, or even the Pacific

[@oceanexplorers1441]

I get it, @samuelhawksworth1923! I had a similar moment. The deep blue expanse made me realize how small I was compared to the ocean's vastness.

[@FatManWithNoPlans]

Personally, I think fear of the ocean isn't just fear of the unknown, but call of the void as well. Imagine gazing into a black abyss, with unimaginable monsters likely lurking within. What's scarier, the creatures that hunger for an easy meal, or the voice in your head screaming for you to go meet the monster in the dark?

[@jakkank]

Swimming in the sea at dusk really gives this call of the abyss/void feeling.

[@Lumberjack_king]

Exactly

[@alexterieur8813]

The call for void transposes to the call for death that all humans somewhat feel in some form or another. Maybe only because of our insatiable curiosity!

[@jacobfoss7783]

What's scarier, the monsters in the void, or the void itself, cold, unfeeling and hungry? Both will put the fear of God into you.

[@SaltyCrabOfficial]

@@jacobfoss7783 or will put the god of fear on you

[@theinternetsightseer2935]

I remember being fascinated by deep sea life as a child. The creatures there were so monstrous and alien. My mother on the other hand was terrified of them as she had thalassophobia. When I asked her why they had ugly and horrific appearances, she responded," The closer they are to hell, the more demonic they become." It's a quote that sticks with me even now.

[@headwreak1768]

she has a point, with Pressure high enough to crush a man and salinity so strong that it kills top-dwelling fish, the creatures must adapt in weird but cool ways.

[@johnnynunez1843]

I love the idea of the deep sea and the abyss. It literally trumps what we know about biology and evolution. Understand there are some things humans are NOT meant to see. We are quite literally aliens in an environment designed to kill us despite our best efforts. Who knows what’s truly down there?

[@headwreak1768]

@@johnnynunez1843 it's truely in Human nature to persevere and overcome places.

[@Retro-Future-Land]

Inner secrets and insights indeed Seer of Sights!

[@justinmcgough3958]

Dam, that line goes so hard

[@AkuTenshiiZero]

Subnautica is like a roller coaster of emotions. One moment I'm terrified and trying to avoid the notice of the Ghost Leviathan, and then moments later I find what looks like an underwater tree holding a giant egg and surrounded by blue tide pools and angelic neon blue rays. I remember I was so stunned by that area that I had to go tear down my base and rebuild it there.

[@maksphoto78]

Tree Cove. it's so pretty, and a very safe zone to build a base in. Lots of resources around. ^_^

[@mr_ekshun]

I did the same!!! And then later discovered that apparently that egg is actually a Ghost Leviathan egg hahaha

[@z54964380]

Don’t forget the sense of godlike power when you’re in the Prawn, come catch these drill hands Reaper!

[@sib315]

also the turning of the screams of fauna from scary to annoying

[@GogiRegion]

@@z54964380Even the prawn suit has some horror aspects, though. In the lore, several people went insane thinking they were immortal when they very much weren’t, which reminds you that you need to be careful.

[@FearMyLvl]

Note for anyone that's curious as to why SCP-3000 is so popular - the reason is because the -000 entries are chosen by competition, with multiple submissions being voted on by the community to determine which one gets to occupy the slot. The reason 3000 won is not just because of that it's a giant eel, but because it's forms a major part of the Foundation, namely it's ability to produce a substance, Y-909, that allows the creation of extremely effective amnestics (the drugs used to give people selective amnesia so the Foundation can uphold the masquerade of normalcy despite all the crazy shit that goes on). The way it does this, at least given the information shared, is through the ingestion of people. It doesn't digest them, but instead seems to absorb their sapience and secrete the 'leftovers' in the form of a jelly through its skin that's then collected by the Foundation for the production of their amnestics. And yes, the Foundation does regularly feed D-class to 3000 so it keeps producing Y-909. The eel also has the effect of making people slowly lose their memories (and at times replace them with the memories of others) by being near it for extended periods of time. A better example for fear of the deep sea might have been SCP-169, which is titled 'Leviathan', as it is estimated to be between 2000-8000 KM long and is located in the southern Atlantic Ocean, possibly stretching around the tip of South America; or SCP-1128, which is aquatic predator that, if a person is given a full description of the being's appearance through either spoken/written descriptions or visual depictions of the being, will pull any person that is submerged into a body of water (even a bath tub or a kiddy pool) into a large stretch of ocean to be devoured attacked by it.

[@themineguy1234]

i was gonna say something about 3000 but i forgot. also 1128 doesnt have a limit of minimum water it can emerge from. it can even even come from a glass of water, or even a drop.

[@ghost-facedhindu4275]

When you're on land, you're in society. When you're in the water, you're in the food chain.

[@RobloxianFourth]

Hol up!!! Is this writing fire? 🔥🔥🔥

[@thatguycolor]

you can also be in wyoming when you're on land and i wouldn't call that society

[@Epsilon-18]

Sometimes society makes me want to choose the food chain

[@sven6277]

goddamn this is underrated

[@cherrysalmon5108]

as someone who loves the ocean, oceanic horror is definitely my favorite kind of horror. partially cause it doesn’t keep me up at night but also because the ocean is just. so scary. even if you know about what’s down there, it’s still really spooky to think about the depths

[@PokidotGamerX]

It's even more horrifying when the ocean is pitch black underneath.

[@Hen3349]

same here I love the ocean and it doesnt scare me at all id be a bit panicked if I found myself in the middle of it or deep in it but not scared the ocean is just amazing to me

[@leighness1988]

Same here, I feel like people who love the ocean are drawn to even it’s dark side. I’ve always said, I will never live in a landlocked state ever again. I need to be right next to the ocean or I feel anxious 😂

[@C.G.Gaster]

I love the ocean, it's great. Swimming with sharks was fun. But something about when it's super deep and dark scares me. It's why I will refuse to go in at night.

[@oceanexplorers1441]

I feel the same way, @cherrysalmon5108! Oceanic horror is intriguing because it blends fascination with the eerie unknown of the deep sea. It's captivating how something so beautiful can also be so mysterious and unsettling.

[@maxdean9205]

"The true terror of any sailor is not sailing the seas nor the raging tides but forgetting how deep the water you float on really is. How ancient the tides truly are, and when you gaze into that deep abyss as water fills your lungs, every sailor knows that something is with you good or bad, never forget that."

[@peabrain6872]

The plankton in my lungs:

[@c.istopmotionstudio1900]

@@peabrain6872 The plankton:👁👄👁

[@jeweltorkelson]

Thanks I hate it

[@matthewparker5277]

No matter how deep the water is, when you drown it feels endless and time starts to stretch farther and farther until every second feels like an eternity, experiencing that will give anyone a fear of the water

[@demilung]

No. The abyss is just there. Waves, rocks and currents are what will break your boat and doom you to die. Sailing always was a job, and a pretty tough, being all poetic.on "hoe ancient is the water around us" makes poor sailors.

[@cee_ves]

I love that the barrel eyed fish, instead of doing the rational thing and growing eyes on top of its head, decided that evolving to have a clear skull was just far more practical

[@CofiBeenz]

A body of water with nothing in it, is just as scary as one filled with creatures. Because you’re so small, you still feel uncomfortable alone, and an empty body of water is just as dangerous as one that isn’t.

[@kamawesomer5744]

cap! is a pool dangerous?

[@CofiBeenz]

@@kamawesomer5744 It can definitely still kill you.

[@JohnJacob-cz8dc]

Especially when you can’t see or touch the bottom. Even if the pool says it’s 16 ft deep, it feels like a void.

[@CofiBeenz]

@@JohnJacob-cz8dc It does, and even shallow pools are still dangerous. It also definitely stems from a fear that even when nothing is there you FEEL like there is. Which is why so many people are afraid of water regardless. It’s doesn’t even need to be a pool, it could be a small bathtub or shower.

[@USSFFRU]

Water is a majestic thing to watch and see. It's beautiful. But if there's one thing Mother Nature has taught humanity, the more beautiful, the more violent it is.

[@scpWyatt]

“Giant sea noodle, leaks fear juice. Do not touch.”

[@kushagrachaudhary8140]

Didn't expect you here

[@MotionlessKnight]

I have mild thalassophobia I think. Thinking about deep places in the ocean and stuff really freaks me out. I have a love/hate relationship with it, because I like watching documentaries and stuff that explore it, but then again, I have sort of a deep fear of imagining being in it myself. I've had nightmares about it. It's still estimated that there's a ridiculous amount of creatures down there that we haven't discovered, and I'm sure some of them are absolutely horrifying and God knows when they could just kinda show up out of the woodwork. It's spooky.

[@mishacochran2825]

Thats just anyone with common sense

[@alexterieur8813]

I think we have plenty of horrifying creatures on earth or shallow waters, i would be surprised if an animal of a greater scale of terrifyingness existed

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

@@alexterieur8813 Consider for a moment that we now "officially" know that the Architeuthis actually exists... That's the "legit" name for a Giant Squid (aka "Architeuthidae")... Other than one "plausible candidate" that's spent nearly a century in the Smithsonian Institute, we have exactly 2 video clips (a few seconds each) of it, and both were "captured" after 2000... BOTH were caught off the coast of Japan, not far from the famous Marianna Trench... and were estimated, likely about 90% "dumb luck". We also know more about the moons over Mars than we do about the bottom of the ocean... to the degree that we haven't yet even mapped more than 5% of the territory down there! Frankly, I'd be surprised if we did NOT find something more interesting, fascinating, and remarkably disturbing or outright horrific in the depths... Hell, we didn't have confirmation of the Iceland sharks OR the Six-gill until around 20-ish years ago, and we (humans generally) like to believe that we know A LOT about sharks... as much as we've studied since the mass slaughter fiasco over "Jaws" sent Benchley to admit his regret for ever writing the book... I'm not even sure how recent discoveries like the cookie-cutter, goblin, or the megamouth are... As a (usually) "dry caver" I've been tasked with accompanying biologists and zoologists into caves ON LAND to discover new species... and you might not consider insects and relatively small fish all that significant, but they're more than "germs"... AND "complex species" are being discovered all the time... It's almost a point of foolish to assume we've already discovered all the creatures in the sea... The pacific alone is deep enough to STACK Mt. Everest several times over and not break the surface... Think about that. ;o)

[@gloomyallo1830]

@@gnarthdarkanen7464 To be fair, we have reason not to fear what else might live down there, because we'd know if there were another giant predator. Extremely stagnant animals like Iceland or Six-gill sharks, who live in both extremely isolated regions that coincide with being on the seabed, make sense in that they aren't active enough and too distant to make their presence known like giant squids are (Who are still subtle enough that we barely have any film of them), and even then we know giant or colossal squids are the biggest you get with deep sea predators because they're still devoured by sperm whales. I feel like we'd know if there were another giant marine organism because it would reflect upon the behavior of all other animals in the surrounding environment and beyond, sperm whales deep-sea dive daily to access giant squid without a care, a behavior that reflects no pressure from predators. So, we probably won't have to worry about finding an eldritch abomination.

[@alexterieur8813]

@@gnarthdarkanen7464 pretty sure the 5% of ocean floors maps isnt a real thing

[@adamdubin1276]

A common thread in the SCP community is the use of Amnestics, a chemical that can make people completely forget recent events and memories and is usually used to cover up things like newly discovered SCP's and containment breaches. It is believed that the Amnestics are either made from the secretions of SCP-3000 or that they were inspired by and based off of the effect SCP-3000 seems to have on those who encounter it.

[@randomgeneration7781]

I recall that Amnestics was perhaps the only known way to save someone from SCP-1128: if the subject could not remember what 1128 looked like, 1128 would not be able to track them. So in another way of looking at it, the only way to save the life of a select group of test subjects from being eaten by a giant aquatic monster, is for another select group of test subjects to get eaten by another giant aquatic monster so the staff can collect its after-dinner secretions. (I hated 1128 so much, did my already crippling thalassophobia no favors; I disliked 3000 less because at least 3000 wasn't as actively intent on hunting its prey down.)

[@paulkanja]

Plot twist, they are actually from 85, but we can't remember or know for sure because, well, 85

[@MrQuantumInc]

To be more precise, the foundation has several kinds of Amnestic drugs, but the most powerful drugs come from SCP-3000 when they feed it a person. They are usually reserved for dealing with other SCPs that not only affect the mind but causes those affected minds to have their own anomalous effects (ex. reading a forbidden book gives you telekinesis).

[@IzeecClarke]

Amnestics existed way before SCP-3000's Y-909 was discovered by the Foundation, the SCP-3000 entry explicitly stated that the Y-909 excreted by SCP-3000 stabilized all previous existing amnestics and just made it better.

[@peabrain6872]

Stfu about god damned scp shit, this is childish absolute first grader imagination you tiny tots

[@titan_o7]

I think that almost all of humanity has some level of thalassophobia, myself included. As someone who lives in a landlocked state thousands of miles from the nearest coastline, the ocean (and even just pictures of deep sea creatures) has always made me physically shudder. Despite that though, I’ve been scuba diving in the ocean once before, and while it was very scary at first, the fear gradually faded and I began to enjoy it. Hopefully I’ll be able to dive again sometime in the future, it was an amazing and unique experience.

[@nargacuga05]

I feel like the opportunity to bring up “soma” was missed, it’s legitimately one of the scariest games I’ve ever played and the mission of navigating between outposts in the deep sea totally fits with everything described here

[@SrValeriolete]

The level of your writting never ceases to impress me "the ocean is deep space in our backyard" is so clever and impactfull and summarizes so well the idea of the video.

[@2009samiy]

This is God as he tells us about himself . Quran . Surah Al-Ikhlas (Sincerity) / In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him. Say, “He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent.” youtube mary and jesus in the quran and mohmmad in the bible and the Torah and the scientific miracles of the quran and mohmmad in hindu scripture … according the bible that you have (Matthew 4:1) Jesus was tempted (James 1:13) God doesn't get tempted (John 1:29) Jesus was seen (1 John 4:12) No man has ever seen God (Acts 2:22) Jesus was and is a man, sent by God (Numbers 23:19, Hosea11:9) God is not a man (Hebrews 5:8-9) Jesus had to grow and learn (Isaiah 40:28) God doesn't ever need to learn (1 Corinthians 15:3-4) Jesus dies (1 Timothy 1:17) God doesn't die (Hebrews 5:7) Jesus needed salvation (Luke 1:37) God doesn't need salvation (John 4:6) Jesus grew weary (Isaiah 40:28) God Doesn't grow weary (Mark 4:38) Jesus slept (Psalm 121:2-4) God doesn't sleep (John 5:19) Jesus isn't all powerful (Isaiah 45:5-7) God is all powerful (Mark 13:32) Jesus isn't all knowing (Isaiah 46:9) God is all knowing ...................

[@Jimera0]

Watching this video made me realize I've had a bit of an odd reaction to the deep compared to most people. When I was a young kid I was scared of deep water, yes. Terrified even. But what scared me was the very real threat of drowning, not the thought of a monster lurking below. I knew I couldn't swim, and the thought of water deep enough I couldn't touch the bottom was literally enough to give me nightmares. But when I learned what awesome creatures lived down there, rather than frighten me it only fascinated me. My favorite animal growing up was the giant squid, and I wanted nothing more than to see it and creatures like it in person. Once I learned to swim my fear of the deep dissipated, and only wonder remained. Maybe this is why I both loved Subnautica and was never very frightened of it, while my friends would have to play in short bursts to give themselves chances to rest from all the anxiety it was causing them.

[@potato2367]

It’s a good 20 minutes and 4 seconds when Curious Archive uploads

[@tylnozcn27]

🙏

[@jonnyhasabonny2891]

It's a good 20 mins and 4 seconds that I'm not gonna watch cuz I'm gonna shit myself lol

[@potato2367]

@@jonnyhasabonny2891 LMAO

[@noirangel6416]

One of the most terrifying iterations of the fear of deep sea life came from Junji Ito's "The thing that drifted ashore". I wont spoil it, but much of it ask what other horrors could be seen within the deep dark sea. Ps: I kiss the dry land that keeps me safe from the horrors of the abyss.

[@jennifervan75]

That one is one of my favourite stories because it's so scary

[@darrelsam419]

The imagery of that manga was horrifying, as with most of Ito's work. Still the idea of the story scares me more because the thought of humans being twisted in that way is terrifying.

[@azneter]

I pray to whatever elder thing Junji worships that this story gets made into an episode of Maniac 😭

[@peabrain6872]

There are no horrors of the deep

[@azneter]

@@peabrain6872 Do you know what a Tusoteuthis was?

[@heather9130]

You can also get this experience by doing a night swim in the ocean. I went on a night dive. Outside of the beam of your flashlight is pitch darkness. It was amazing seeing these glowing worm creatures, squid, and octopi. Feeling like a shark could loom out of the darkness as any moment. And I've never done it since lol, absolutely terrifying. This was a really interesting video (I subbed), I picked up Iron Lung immediately. What a great concept for a game.

[@heather9130]

@keepitsecret-dl1pr I had a panic attack at one point on the dive. Not sure if I was brave or just stupid. I'm glad to have that experience, and I never want to experience it again.

[@Lyuda556]

You have one of my most favorite storytelling voices of all time. Thank you for your narration.

[@Carlisho]

Playing Subnautica is one of the most memorable gaming experiences I have ever had, what a masterpiece of a game. Its scarier than an actual horror game without even trying to scare you lol

[@solluxcaptor6823]

I have a love for the ocean and all it’s creatures but the entire thing terrifies me. It’s so deep and unimaginably old it almost feels sacred. It holds so much information and so many secrets it feels like it’s another planet.

[@rae-rae8005]

I like how you mentioned that fear of a shark in the swimming pool. I ALWAYS imagined that. Still do. And I hate it because I love to swim

[@paulymorphous9958]

Yeah, I always imagined that one too. No idea how common it was.

[@rae-rae8005]

@@paulymorphous9958 I wish more people talked about it. sure it feels embarrassing but still, more people need to talk about it.

[@AGULL]

Omg yes, i was sometimes scared while having swimlessons. That melodi didnt help either😅

[@cosmicdistortion4350]

for me it's when i take a cold shower i get reminded of sharks. hence i hate taking cold showers lol

[@peabrain6872]

Sharks shouldn’t be feared

[@macromondo8026]

It took this video for me to realize I have Thalassophobia, just...the isolation, the fear of drowning at shallow depths, the fear of being crushed in the total darkness of abyssal depths, the fear of being surrounded by bizarre organisms, nope, no thanks, imma stay right here in land thank you very much (this video scared me more than any horror movie and I loved every minute of it lol.)

[@Jeyblox]

I think thalassophobia is as much a natural reaction as being afraid of the dark, some experience it more strongly than others. I realised I had it when our family got this large poster of dolphins under the sea, compared to others I wasn’t looking at the cute dolphins, but at the large body of empty darkness behind them that was distracting and disturbing to me, lmao.

[@chattycatty3336]

​@@Jeyblox I feel this 😂 I can barely watch finding nemo because the vast empty backgrounds low-key terrify me 💀

[@DarkModeIndonesiaEdition]

I think you have some phobia of void cuz all of the fear you have is related to them

[@Real_Iron_Smith]

Oh my gosh, I remember watching the "Mermaids: The Body Found" as a kid, they really tried to present it as fact, though my dad and Uncle both laughed it off.

[@sb792079]

One of my favorite childhood mangas had the line “idolization/fascination is the farthest emotion from understanding” And i would say, so is fear. Fear and fascination both share a similar place extremely far from understanding, And this kind of sums up my weird mixture of being intensely shaken by the deep sea, but also allured by it

[@rga1605]

To be honest, I really like to think Iron Lung as a dream or dream-like experience, because it doesn't make it less scary, because the premise itself is nightmarish enough (especially if you interpret the blood ocean as the blood of all mankind that was raptured).

[@ianp.1617]

Hey, recently the game "Evolve" seemed to be revived. I don't know if you know about it(though it wouldn't surprise me if you did), but basically is a hunting game where 4 players hunt down a fifth player that controls a creature able to evolve within minutes (but only after completing a couple of requirements ofc). I think it would be fascinating to get into the biology of the planets where those creatures developed, and theorizing about how they could have been possible. I don't know, just putting the idea out there. p.s. I love your videos, hope you're able to continue this project as long as you can, and enjoy it ofc; great day, and thanks for reading if you did (Whoever read this really, not necessarily the Archivist)

[@troysbuilds.3896]

I got like 200 hours on this game and have every monster and hunter in the game I love it

[@Pumkin5000]

Can someone tell me the name of the movie where some ppl went to an is land which has gold and i think the Dwayne the rock was in it and the ending was where they were fighting an eel

[@thehowlingjoker]

@@Pumkin5000 Journey 2: The Mysterious Island

[@Pumkin5000]

@@thehowlingjoker thx bro imma watch it tonight

[@thehowlingjoker]

@@Pumkin5000 np

[@GandalfTheTsaagan]

I'm super glad that you dedicated a section to "In Other Waters", it's one of my favorite games of all time and probably one of the best portrayals of science in videogames Another favorite game of mine that's also about deep sea exploration with a stellar presentation is "Shinsekai: Into The Depths" This one is a metroidvania, and you play as a diver who still depends on his submarine to explore a postapocalyptic flooded Earth covered in ice that has to reach the deepest depth in order to find out what happened to the world, and you get to catalogue the fauna in the process

[@mzjalic324]

I really like these videos on horror adjacent concepts that can be tied to speculative biology. They've been honestly fantastic looks into things that are scary, and why they might be so. With a great helping of atmosphere and great narration, of course!

[@hrs66]

The Meg movie was based off a series of books, the first published in the late 90's.

[@carolynallisee2463]

Thank you, CA, for clearing up a mystery that's been hovering about for a few years now. It started when I encountered a video clip purporting to show migrating mermaids running afoul of a Megalodon. Try as I might, I just couldn't find the programme this clip had come from. I kept getting bounced back to the 'Bloop' recording and all the conspiracy theories surrounding it. I gave up searching after a while, and had all but forgotten about it, especially as, despite what some conspiracy hold outs would have you believe, it now seems almost certain the 'Bloop' was caused by melting and moving ice. So it turns out that the clip came from this 'mockumentary'. I think I'd kind of realised it wasn't real at the time, but it did seem highly intriguing at the time. I guess its one of those TV shows like 'The Last Dragon', a kind of speculative evolution documentary, like you say, trying to make mythological creatures seem plausible.

[@tacos3341]

The ocean is fascinating and frightening at the same time

[@einienj3281]

It's not our element..

[@tijanamilenkovic9442]

@@einienj3281 if you really want to really shit your pants there is a wide array of athletic sea creatures ***(I am saying creatures because one of these are not fish)*** and these include larger sharks, tarpons, mahi mahi, billfishes, tunas, mackerels and dolphins. All of them have very low body fat percentage, most of their fat is polyunsaturated fat and conjugated linoleic acid, making them all of them super ripped and showing humans what 2% body fat looks like. For the record, dolphins are the leanest and the most muscular of the cetaceans and one of the leanest, most muscular marine mammals, being surprisingly lean for whales; in fact, most of the whales have up to 50% body fat, but dolphins have 4 -5% body fat. Unsurprisingly, up to 50% of all of these sea creatures' overall body mass is pure muscles; in fact, that would translate to sharks having anywhere from 25 kg to 1 t of pure muscle, depending on the species, tarpons having up to 161 kg of pure muscle, mahi mahi having up to 18 kg of pure muscle, billfishes having 58 kg to 650 kg of pure muscle, depending on the species, tunas having 60.3 kg to 200 kg of pure muscles, mackerels having 0.75 kg to 3.4 kg of pure muscle and dolphins having anywhere from 25 kg to 6 t of pure muscle, depending on the species. With that much muscle mass, dolphins are definitely the marine mammals that deserve the title ''Herculean", and you know, sharks, tunas and billfishes are truly the bodybuilders of the ocean, along with dolphins

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

@@einienj3281 Speak for yourself

[@einienj3281]

@@whynottalklikeapirat You can live underwater or something? I like diving and swimming, but I don't live in the sea.. as a kid my dream was to be a mermaid, but no such luck..

[@whynottalklikeapirat]

@@einienj3281 Can you live outside in the snow unassisted? Is a persons only true element a house at room temperature? Just because something can’t be sustained indefinitely doesn’t mean it’s all alien and uninhabitable and non-elementy the rest of the time. Pretty sure a fair amount of professional seamen, fishermen or commercial divers consider it their element. The Bayou people of SE Asia sure do living on and in the ocean more or less their entire lives. Anyway being a mermaid is a good dream. I believe it’s even a real job in some aquariums. Every summer I spend a couple of months outside in the arctic living off spearfishing. I’ll be off for like 4 hours a day hunting and exploring, that’s about as far as my wetsuit will carry me. I’d starve or have to go home if I didn’t so I feel like, that makes it my element in a rather down to earth (or down to the beach and into the briney) kind of way, for the time that I am there. In the tropics I could stay out all day, more or less. But if I were to go out on my balcony as I am now, here in the city and stay there I most likely would not survive the night. Is the balcony my element? Only if I dress for the occasion :D

[@thisischrys]

Recently found your channel thanks to your Subnautica documentary and honestly I'm so glad I stumbled in here! The amount of depth in your analyses really blows me away, I'm gonna struggle to pace myself and not binge through all your videos this week haha. Would love to see you cover the worldbuilding and biology of Fallen London/Sunless Sea sometime!

[@duanebailey6253]

i was scuba diving around 05 in Cancun. I remember seeing a massive sunfish the size of a vw about 100 yards away from me. I was trying to motion to the others in my group to look that way but by the time they did it was gone. I remember getting home and could find no fish that size. I thought I was crazy for almost 10 years until I was finally able to see a picture of it. couldnt imagine being in deep ocean.

[@ashheart985]

Ever since I was a little kid I've wanted to be one of the first people to reach the bottom of the challenger deep. All free time I had I spent researching the ocean, abyssal creatures, and even a submarine I could take. I spent days upon days worth of hours playing a game one the Wii called Endless Ocean, and when I unlocked the abyssal dive site I was ecstatic. It's quite like Beyond Blue which I also played but I liked it better because Beyond Blue had an ending, then you restarted, for Endless Ocean it was... endless. And then I read a wonderful work of fiction called Into the Drowning Deep, a book with really quite accurate science but about fictional Sirens that people found living in the abyss. All my friends would flip when I told them this dream I had and I'd just smile and laugh, not understanding their fear. For me it was adventure, discovery. Loving the unknown, feeling pride as more people had been to the moon than to the bottom of even our own ocean. In giant swimming pools I love swimming with feet of water in every direction, so I assume I'd also love the open ocean of the pacific, never knowing when a colossal creature like a whale will show up in your field of view. The deep is my first love. No need to be afraid everyone, its calling you :)

[@jesselindsey9760]

God. It's not even monsters that I'm scared of, I just can't stand knowing that there's so much nothing between me and the bottom. That I'm effectively floating around the very highest mountaintops, peering down into the valleys miles below me. And the deeper you go, the more alien the environment is. The colder and darker it gets. The less and less you recognize. It's as though you're wandering through an enchanted woods that get denser and darker the further in you go. Like an old fairy tale, where dense forests hide witches and wolf-men just waiting to gobble you up whole. The creatures you meet reflect the alien landscape around them; having adapted to a suffocating lack of sunlight, frigid inescapable temperatures, and skull-shattering pressure from the weight of MILES of ocean above them. And every time you think you've hit the bottom - every time you think the creatures are as alien as they could be and that surely only Hell itself could exist at a point any deeper than upon which you reside... it just keeps going down. The floors turn to hills, turn to cliffs, turn to vertical drops as you walk off a continental shelf. The furthest down point there is approximately 11 kilometers deep, but that's just the deepest one we know of. That we KNOW of. For all we know, there's another spot even deeper. Or there's a hundred spots even deeper. We don't have the seabed mapped. We don't know what fucked up creatures there are. It's such an enormous unknown, and it just gets worse and worse the deeper you get. God, I hate the ocean.

[@Johnny_L1]

Absolutely loved how you combined videogames, movies and real life to make this incredibly entertaining video. Thank you!

[@Kabutoes]

In 2011 I had this fear and I’m blown away how far it’s been discussed on the internet. Virtually nobody was interested in talking about vast and space like the oceans are

[@PrismFowl]

Leviathans and other incomprehensible creatures lurking around reminds me of cosmic horror. You know it’s there but you can only see a little bit of it at a time.

[@caitlin7311]

Subnatica was terrifying not only because of the terrifying creatures that attack you, but also because to get deeper you need to go through places where you can see nothing before you could see things.

[@germanluna3297]

Thalassophobia is probably one of the only fears I have. The dark abyss is one of the most horrifying things in the world to me.

[@Cobretsov2022]

Coming from a family full of Royal navy personnel and Royal marines it is just natural for me to not be afraid of the sea, but these stories. Thalassophobia itself is extremely intriguing for me, I may never experience the terror and discomfort of people with it feel, but it definitely is understandable

[@himbourbanist]

The Ocean is both absolutely beautiful, mesmerizing, and intriguing, while simultaneously being the most horrific, infinite abyss imaginable. It's so cool, and terrifying.

[@bogboog7734]

Raft was a weird video game experience for me. Underneath the bright, sunny beaches and fun fishing was the deep and dark ocean, that was only inhabited by the shark and a few other creatures.

[@nasseralharbi5528]

This has hands down been one of my favourite channels to watch recently, please never stop making content like this

[@steveirwin3594]

Great video. I love how you focused both on real life creatures and footage, and media interpretations of them. Thanks for this, I found it somehow relaxing rather than unsettling. One note about the Meg, the movie's actually based on a 1997 book that came out wayyy before the discovery channel 'documentary' if you can call it that.

[@exorcist3d99]

Finally someone who knows, my boy steve alten deserves some credit that entire series was so awesome and intriguing to me as a kid

[@alexlea6777]

For centuries, the bottom of the deepest seas have been shrouded in mystery and superstition. Some say it's a hostile place, inhabited by the strangest creatures. Others, that it serves as a prison for the most dangerous of outcasts. But the only way of ever finding out is to go there and see for yourself... -Bionicle

[@EZ-mx5ci]

I love that video! I would watch it over and over as a kid it gave me such chills and wonder!

[@alexlea6777]

@@EZ-mx5ci And the music in it is just sooo good

[@chrisinnaabyss]

@@alexlea6777 Whats the video called?

[@alexlea6777]

@@chrisinnaabyss The song is called creeping in my soul, and as for the video look up "Bionicle Barraki commerical" on KZbin

[@oceanexplorers1441]

Absolutely, @alexlea6777. The deep sea has indeed been a realm of mystery and intrigue for centuries. As we explore further, we discover extraordinary creatures adapted to extreme conditions, like the bioluminescent creatures that illuminate the darkness. It's a frontier that continues to surprise and challenge our understanding of life on Earth.

[@unduloid]

The deep sea doesn't worry me. Having no air to breathe worries me.

[@sudanemamimikiki1527]

this is pretty much why i love the deep sea. the fantasy (as i dont believe any of these stuff exist) of there being lost civilizations under water, gigantic monsters and more, is just such a wonderful thing for me.

[@Shaders_]

I think I have finally found the best and perfect term for the ocean and the deep seas. Unhinged.

[@nakunyame2071]

I know that this video is almost a year old at this point but I seem to have the opposite reaction with the ocean and the depths, I'm not only not terrified but absolutely adore the ocean and it's creatures and mysteries. just so much life and things we don't know it's almost like it's own eldritch creature being seemingly not able to be fully knowable/understood and it holds so much of my affection

[@domusaur]

I feel both completely fascinated by the ocean and also a bit scared. I guess the word is awe? Like a great reverence and admiration for it, like it's mesmerizing and unfathomable, alien and mysterious yet comforting. Also, I think the movie Meg is based on the book series, not the mockumentary. I read the first book and it's great, and I specifically enjoyed the parts where they describe what the Mariana's Trench is like. Definitely recommended.

[@escaped_cephalopod]

Same tbh it’s so cool yet terrifying and there’s so much left to explore

[@Emolgala]

100% agreed

[@artastic_friend]

I love the ocean so much, So much potential for exploration and so much potential for both beauty and horror

[@aidenmclaughlin1076]

I love the ocean, I’m a diver and a sailor and I find the open ocean, staring into the abyss strangely soothing. I want something to be down there, I want there to be huge krakens of unknowable size and massive sharks of epic proportions. Something that makes me genuinely sad is when Jack finds the dead Kraken in Pirates of the Caribbean, and he contemplates the world getting smaller. I don’t know why it makes me sad, I just really want something like that to exist I guess.

[@levferno483]

This video is awesome. I don’t think I have Thalassophobia, but I can’t help but be immersed and feel great suspense in this video.

[@angelofpain3890]

The fact that you cited every title of media in each one of your examples/clips deserves a like comment and subscribe ngl

[@steventalvinzvestal420]

Please do not disturb us down here. We're just only swimming, breathing, hiding, vibing and making plans.

[@MrH4ckerman]

Really loving the more unique video styles you're doing apart from speculative biology, keep it up!

[@Hrafenclaw]

The picture with the monster scared me so bad. I love to swim a lot but even in pools I still get so scared to look down and close my eyes, it’s like I feel I’m in the deep open abbys. When I saw the monster eye- it confirmed my fears.

[@phatnana2379]

Forget the imagined monsters... I'm not about to jump out of a boat in the middle of the ocean because of the monsters I know of!

[@colbyshea5915]

“The ocean is deep space in our backyard” so true!

[@dodgersdoon1130]

This is awesome, my wife actually has thalassophobia. I could never show her this, however I enjoyed it immensely. Thank you

[@SmolBloof]

Thanks for the reminder of all the games that've kept me awake at night, jumping at imagined leviathans and gaping maws. Sad that you didn't mention Barotrauma though! It's another subnautical game that manages to trigger that thalassophobia despite flat, 2D visuals.

[@j.a.i.s_hptl]

Subnautica just got that mystic kinda Vibe, that can not be described when you watch someone playing it. You have to play it your self to experience this amazing but somehow also terrifing feeling

[@Ziorac]

The idea that we conquered the skies before we went even below 300m in the ocean is crazy. Humans had been deeper than that underground!

[@OpalBeams]

I have severe Thalassophobia and I HATE even seeing gameplay of subnautica, yet somehow I find it so interesting 😭🙏

[@Ceece20]

I love Subnautica precisely because it’s so chilling and chilly. It makes me relax with the views and constantly looking over my shoulder for predators. Reminded me going snorkeling in the British Virgin Islands when I was a child, and I just dove down to be surrounded by the fish, only to find a small shark investigating who is disturbing the school of fish.

[@gloomyallo1830]

Europa Report is a very obscure and sometimes questionable film, but is nonetheless mostly grounded in realism. The entire premise is the crew of a manned mission to Europa, the ice moon with a theoretical subsurface ocean, and how they're gradually hunted by a foreign "light", climatically revealed to be a giant tentacled marine alien upon the death of the last crew member. The beast truly looks like a lifeform that could exist on Europa, and the glimpses of the bottomless pitch blackness that is Europa's subsurface ocean are equally unnerving. Europa's subsurface ocean is said to be much deeper than Earth's despite the moon as a whole being much smaller, thus that's countless miles of void inhabited by whatever calls the moon's waters home.

[@lolafierling2154]

I absolutely love that movie. It can be a bit questionable at times but overall I felt like it was truly disturbing. Being based in reality is always the scariest thing about any scary/disturbing movie.

[@mfs353]

dude I kid you not watching the intro legit made me tense up, its almost ridiculous how strong thalassophobia is.

[@lando1296]

2:29 You can see a man in the doorway, how comforting. Even... something else... in the first-floor window.

[@chrisnizer]

Oh I'm sure there are creatures in the deepest seas that are unknown to us now. There's so much unexplored territory how could there NOT be something. Thanks for the video my friend, good stuff indeed! 👍 👍

[@ot7biasedmashups]

My thalassophobia is quite interesting. A lot of people who are scared of deep water are also scared of deep space which I'm not. For me it's rather connected to my fear of heights. I don't care about monsters in the deep. However, when I'm swimming in a large lake or the sea and feel a way too cold current that could have only come from wayyyy down or even I look down only to see bottomless darkness.... That absolutely terrifies me. It doesn't matter if I KNOW the bottom is just 20m down. I can't see it. I can't feel it. Therefore it might as well not be there. Just the imagination how the sea can be kilometers deep is bone chilling. For my fear of heights I'm obviously afraid of falling. But it's also a feeling of weakness because I'm so high up I wouldn't be able to change anything if I were to fall. It's similar for large bodies of water. If my strengths leave me, I can't do anything about sinking down and drowning. Thalassophobia is so fascinating to me because I've always loved swimming and especially diving. As a baby I tried to swim before I could even walk. I do freediving/mermaiding. I don't feel as comfortable anywhere as I do underwater. Yet I'm still so terrified of the depth.

[@TheHumanHollow]

This is so weird to me, because I don't fear those aspects of the ocean at all. That's actually why I never understood the love for SCP 3000 compared to other aquatic SCPs because it was just not frightening or in depth enough for me. The ocean/depths is more mysterious/inspiring/enigmatic than frightening. Perhaps that's because I've always been aware of it and the creatures there, but I don't know. To me the fear of the water is how vulnerable you are, in context of breath. At any moment just getting lost means you drown. Equipment malfunctions? Drown. Animal to curious? Drown. Pressure will get you too. That fear, especially in cave diving, is waaaayyy scarier to me that the creatures there or the expansive environment. That's just me though.

[@SolarBeamScotty]

I absolutely love the deep sea and sea creatures and monsters. Amazing episode!

[@verrufen2642]

Best instance of this for me was in rainworld, swimming across the open ocean. Then, a leviathan emerges from beneath the depths. Scared the hell out of me

[@jiririnagl302]

I love Underwater, it captures fear of deep sea very well, very underrated movie.That Nemo point is insane, imagine that sheer loneliness you must feel if you end up there.

[@alvaronavarro4895]

Yaaay! New Curious Archive video! Im such a Big fan, man. I LOVE watching your videos after a hard week.

[@justsomejerseydevilwithint4606]

3:16 Try Iowa. The Threat of Tornadoes is highly overstated, and it's even highly geologically stable there. There's only two species of potentially lethal spider, both of which are easily survivable by a healthy adult human, and are very rare anyways. The largest aquatic wildlife is a snapping turtle or two in some ponds.

[@FalconWeasel3113.yeryarro]

AND THERE’S ALSO SLIPKNOT!

[@sirarcher777]

As a SCUBA diver, I am very comfortable with the ocean, and love the vast depths, finding it even relaxing. But it’s super interesting to see why a lot of people are afraid of it.

[@thebob5240]

As a guy with Thalassophobia i am one of the biggest supporters of the ocean in my family despite my irrational fear it is beautiful in all of it's majesty and power. We know deep space better in many ways than our own oceans and i think that is amazing. But get me on a boat my brain's logical thoughts go and the primal deep fear takes over.

[@IcarusLhooq-bc7uq]

I read about the idea that because of the way cold sense underwater rivers run , and how much less the density of most boats especially onvs old wooden ones, there are ships still sailing for some hundreds of years down there . They can't sink through such dense cold water . ghost ships sailing underwater until they're gone !! spooky but cool

[@purplemosasaurus5987]

I have such intense Thalassophobia that I am truly terrified of any part of the ocean except coral reefs.

[@SitaraAleu]

One correction; The Meg was inspired by the eponymous books by Steve Alten, not entirely the irrational fears of the public. The books have been around for years 😅 The movies just kind of went in their own direction with his concept. Other than that, this video was amazing. I love the ocean and I’m always fascinated to see more of it down there

[@Wurmze]

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[@TroyTheCatFish]

Thank You 🙏

[@escaped_cephalopod]

0:22 hey no insulting the bigfin squid, they’re cool

[@escaped_cephalopod]

Also vampire squids are cute FIGHT ME

[@CMEDETROIT]

No, there not

[@escaped_cephalopod]

@@CMEDETROIT *they’re

[@CMEDETROIT]

@@escaped_cephalopod correct they’re not cool in the least

[@sparxso9122]

The mermaid mockumentary scared the absolute shit out of me

[@lasercraft32]

I remember watching that mermaid mockumentary in school, on one of those "break days" or something.

[@jeffersenpierrelouis7053]

4:59

[@Kitsunekone]

The deep sea is a void, composed of a blank abyss, teeming with multiple possibilities and a pressured feeling of helplessness. Is it any wonder that most of our eldritch horrors, such as Lovecraft's Cthulhu, take inspiration from open ocean creatures.

[@ruthie8785]

I mean but…no? It’s just deep water.

[@Kitsunekone]

@Ruthie And yet even the most innocuous of open water, deep sea games manage to have a horror edge, even incidentally.

[@ArcNeoMasato]

Any time I see videos like this, I'm taken back to my original Playstation and the first game to truly terrify me when I wasn't just a kid, Treasures of the Deep. The earlier parts of the game are just really really chill, and even beautiful in a lot of cases. But later in the game, you start going deeper and deeper, until one level is outright in the Marianas Trench. Even as a 31 year old adult, I struggle to bring myself to play some of those levels again.

[@sketchalater4656]

For me, it's not so much the sea, but rather lakes. Especially when swimming in murky ones where you can't see the bottom. Even though the only largest things in my region would be sturgeon, bass, catfish, etc. I have a small fear of putting my feet on the ground, worried that I'll step on a giant fish lol. Also, I would hate to step on a crawdad, a dead carcass of some sort, trash, broken glass, etc. I'll just sit on my floatie and keep my feet near the surface and I'm fine. Also if the water is clear, I would have no problems, even if there was big fish around.

[@mochimochiarts]

Genuinely, one of the things that makes Subnautica terrifying, is it's incredible sound design The complete silence of some areas, or the roaring of leviathans in the distance, all the way to the crashing waves and chittering of small creatures It's very well done, even in the 2nd game Don't get me wrong, the darkness and leviathans and alien-ness of the is scary in and of itself, but without the gorgeous sound design, it wouldn't been *as* scary

[@Sci-fi-gu7]

The second I saw this video I was immediately expecting a Subnautica ref, and that’s legit the first image 💀

[@prevention.s]

literally found this on a subnautica playlist

[@Craneonyx]

Curious Archive, if you are seeing this, I would LOVE a video on the biology of Xenomorphs and The Predator! Can it be granted?

[@gavinkailey527]

I hope you talk more about Mermaids: The Body Found, I love that documentry, and I rewatch it a lot just for fun.

[@nicholaslaberge]

I want Curious Archive to make a video about both Mermaids: The Body Found, and Mermaids: The New Evidence.

[@Darkkrebs]

SAME. I’ve loved all those types of shows, from Dragons: A Fantasy Made Real to Megalodon: The Monster Shark Lives. Really wish there were more shows like them.

[@gavinkailey527]

@Darkkrebs those are awesome. Have you seen cannibal in the jungle or helltown? Those are Aldo A-tier mockumentries

[@Darkkrebs]

@@gavinkailey527 I might have heard about Cannibal in the Jungle, but no, I haven’t seen those. I’ll have to check them out. Have you seen Werewolves: The Dark Survivors? That’s another favorite of mine.

[@gavinkailey527]

@Darkkrebs oh yeah, I saw the werewolf one, I hope they make more mockumentries about biggoot or other creatures. I love these kinds of shows. It's like lost tapes, man, that show scared me as a little boy

[@sharlin648]

It kinda reminds me of this thing I saw online about the Uncanny valley, asking what was it so long ago where we encountered something that looked human, but wasn't and that has stuck with us ever since.

[@ethanlackey8048]

I thought that was just an effect caused by the brains facial pattern recognition? Or maybe a means to detect danger in other humans that aren’t like us. Like a serial killer detection sensor.

[@mikehat7652]

​@Ethan Lackey there's no evidence that serial killers look differently than any other person in any kind of way

[@ethanlackey8048]

@@mikehat7652 I know, but some people just set off alarm bells so idk. It’s just a thought.

[@MonkehBuns]

Thalassophobia is one of the fears that I like to mess with. Like I have arachnophobia, so I avoid spiders at all costs. But I love to stand with my feet in the ocean and think about how vast it is until I get scared.

[@jonathancross2790]

I scrolled down and listened to the entire video like a podcast. I appreciate the work mate. Sorry for not watching the whole thing. But you are a brave hero in my book.