My favorite 32-bit float pocket recorder DEITY PR-2 review

[@curtisjudd]

UPDATE - DEITY has a beta app called Sidus TC Sync that looks very similar to Tentacle Sync's app for Mac. But DEITY's is for both Windows and Mac. Find more details at deitymic.com/products/sidus-tc-sync/ Corrections: - ZOOM F2 only records 32-bit float (not 24-bit linear) - The last silhouette sample is the PR-2 and Sanken COS-11D

[@Scotvis]

Sidus TC Sync works well and very promising in its beta state with FCP X 10.8. I used it on a 5 camera + Zoom F8 shoot with 4 x Deity TC1's for a mix of audio and file timecode. Had one issue, and the folks at Deity were REALLY helpful and got it sorted.

[@curtisjudd]

@@Scotvis nice! Thanks for sharing! It’s great to have another app available for this.

[@aristotle_4532]

​@@curtisjuddAnd LTC Convert (AUXTC)

[@DylanReeve]

I was going to post that link... Also Avid Media Composer has native support for timecode extraction from audio.

[@hansangb]

Looks like there is a dedicated TimeCode Tool for Windows on the TentacleSync's website.

[@benmoulson]

You consistently put out some of the very best reviews on KZbin in any category. You're perfect mixture of no nonsense + plenty of detail and depth, is extremely refreshing in a world of performative content. Audio is such a difficult world to navigate when you're new, having this clear guidance is a huge help. Thank you Curtis! (and anyone who may help with your video production)

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks so much 🙏

[@Edsdrafts]

AA battery support, especially rechargeable ones, is a welcome "feature" of this unit. Li ones are great but sooner or later you'll need to change them and most manufacturers either glueing them in or not selling a replacement.

[@curtisjudd]

Agreed!

[@DylanReeve]

Also, no matter how good or how new the built in lithium battery in any of these devices is, if it happens to go flat during a shoot you're screwed. You either need an entire spare unit on standby or you need to pause production while you recharge. I tend to consider any non-replaceable battery (in the field) a total non-starter on devices like this.

[@curtisjudd]

@@DylanReeve I cannot agree more!

[@PavanRChawla]

Lovely review, Curtis. Thanks yet again.

[@curtisjudd]

🙏

[@marklholloway]

Great review, Curtis. Deity is really leveling up. Having TC-1 integration, onboard or mobile app device control, plus the included desktop app, is pretty amazing. I wish that Zaxcom patent wasn’t such a thorn in our sides.

[@curtisjudd]

Agreed!

[@MichiMallu]

This video is sponsored by me, lol!

[@curtisjudd]

😀

[@Ravisidharthan]

മച്ചീ ❤

[@mauriciolee7349]

Thank Curtis for this DETAILED & UNIQUE video. As of today, July 28th, 2024, out of 6 videos I’ve watched, yours is the ONLY one that talks about the following 3 things. First, the PR 2 can be used with almost any other lavalier microphones from other brands because its input jack provides 5V plug in power. Second, it can be use as an audio interface for computers. Third, if my camera does not have a dedicated time code input, and I use the audio input instead, the time code syncing might be off.

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@dag221]

I know you're comparing apples to apples here but the Tentacle Track E can also be purcahased without the lav mic for only $249. For someone like me who isn't interested in the included lavalier microphones on any of these units that makes the Tentacle units a lot more attractive considering how good their apps are and the work flow when using their sync units also. I would use these type units for field recording with mics I already have and for $20 more I will be deciding on whether to get the Tentacle Track E or the this new Deity unit. I like that they both record in 24 bit also. I might actually order one of these Deity recorders very soon. Thanks for the review.

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, thanks for the callout.

[@ChrisSpiegl]

One interesting update: Adobe Premiere Pro is going to sync with LTC audio Timecode in a future version. They currently have this feature in the beta already.

[@curtisjudd]

Yay!!

[@mrshaheedmalik]

It took them long enough.

[@sganzerla]

Thanks God! But it may be too late for me...

[@bjoern.broehl]

Awesome Review! I ordered a Tascam dr 10l pro about two weeks ago and sent it back when I heard about the Deity pr2. The built in timecode support is amazing

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@waynosfotos]

I bought the Tascam DR-10L pro and was disappointed with it. To me, I don't think the amps are as good as the old one, and you can't use the 24bit with two dB levels as in the previous model, so has lost some functionality. I was overall disappointed with it.

[@BrandonBurket]

Great introductory video! I would love to see how it performs in stereo mode.

[@curtisjudd]

Me too! I need a stereo mic with 3.5mm output...

[@whoismatt]

Great review Curtis!

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Matt!

[@cameraconspiracies]

Is the micro SD card hard to remove with batteries in? Looks like you have to take the batteries out to access it?

[@petercofrancesco9812]

no slow motion either. card location behind batteries is slightly annoying but in practice you pull the batteries after a shoot then grab the card. My complaint with the US version won't allow wireless transmission while recording. People on movie sets aren't going to use this and normal creators are going to use Rode or DJI that send audio into the camera and record backup. Most sub 5k cameras don't support timecode. It's a fine device but not for me or most ppl.

[@curtisjudd]

I had to pull the batteries and even then the card is not easy to remove. I transferred via USB instead.

[@bigsnap5]

Now that the PR 2 is out. I hope Deity makes a Theos mini for those situations in which the normal is to big. It would be nice to have the option of a smaller transmitter.

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@Rorschach1488_]

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!

[@ancientSumerian]

First, would you ever do a in depth video on matching lavs with shotgun mics?

[@MarcosElMalo2]

What does that mean, matching lavs with shotgun mics?

[@curtisjudd]

Sure.

[@curtisjudd]

Make the lav and boom mic sound similar. Usually they sound a bit different.

[@Shuttterbugg]

Like usual thank you for your service Curtis....you're the man

[@curtisjudd]

🙏

[@strider785]

Perfect timing with this review. Looks like I’m going with Deity!

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@strider785]

@@curtisjudd Do you know if the PR-2 supports split audio+TC output like the Track E and Rode Wireless Pro? They offer functionality where the monitoring audio is sent on the L channel, with the Timecode audio sent on the R channel.

[@curtisjudd]

@@strider785 The PR-2 doesn't appear to support this (yet?)

[@roryonabike5863]

Americans can purchase the international version in/from Canada.

[@dollhausenx]

I can see my Border Patrol conversation: "What's the reason for your trip to Canada?" Freezing up thinking of what to say so they won't know I'm going to Vancouver to buy illegal audio equipment, "I'm going to buy bootleg maple syrup to smuggle back into the States." "Carry on."

[@joenicklo]

Dang, as much as I love my Tentacle Track E...this might be a viable upgrade. Would need to switch my timecode boxes too though.

[@curtisjudd]

🤷‍♂️ I really like being able to set up the device without an app.

[@madsmix]

Nice video again. Thanks! Were you aware of Deity's own take at the Tenacle Sync Studio software? It's called Sidus TC SYNC. It would be nice to know your take on this.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks for alerting me! I added a pinned comment linking to their new beta app. 🙏

[@IMDABROWN]

Good review, with that said you are one of the best audio and lightning reviewers

[@curtisjudd]

🙏

[@YEYSHONAN]

Wow! I never knew about that US Patent. Thank you for that info!

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@gkanai1400]

Great review! Thank you Curtis.

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@lurchingtowardsoblivion]

Good review. As a field recordist, 32-bit float stereo recording would have made the PR-2 practically perfect. My wait continues...

[@curtisjudd]

Lectrosonics has you covered.

[@nicholasyeo]

Thanks Curtis for the stellar review, as usual. I have just one question - noticed that "AI Smart Lvl" has been removed from the menu of the PR-2, though it still shows up in the manual. Does anyone know why the feature has been removed?

[@simoz78]

I was waiting for it for so many months as it was delayed for so long. The only bad point seems to be that many other products arent compatible with the Deity timecode system :(

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, same with most of the other wireless timecode systems out there.

[@Debtfreehomesteaders]

Awesome video Curtis. Good to see you. This may fit the ticket For my next project, thank you . -Will

[@curtisjudd]

Good to hear from you Will.

[@cp1198pc]

I'm curious about the noise levels of the recorder and how they might compare to competitors like the Track-E or even the Zoom F3. I also wonder: how do you connect two mices, through a splitter cable? As others have said, excellent video!

[@curtisjudd]

Noise levels subjectively about the same if using the same mic on all three.

[@FilmedByHendrix]

Deity TC Sync has now released. I have not used it so can not speak to how good it works. I will be picking up one of these to work along with my Theos and TC1 sets. Thanks Curtis!

[@curtisjudd]

Looking forward to trying it out!

[@sky.london]

May only complaint is that I wish it was a touch smaller and had one one battery to keep the weight down. But I guess that wouldn’t give you the 5v out for the lavs. But I’m definitely buying one or two.

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@DocFUNKist]

Great review, I’m in the market for a portable recorder, this seems to be a great option.

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@jgooch99]

Great review. Thanks for sharing!

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@stevensmith4099]

I would have loved to see a comparison with rode wireless pro.

[@curtisjudd]

Umderstood. Different product class to my mind.

[@drmurugs-theeyedoc5554]

Fantastic Mr judd. Great insight. Im a motorcyclist I have a helmet Rode Lav mic connected to the helmet GoPro (media mod) directly. Currently. But the audio feed is always clipping. I post process the audio on FCpx using Logic pros plugins. Now If I add a Y 3.5 mm splitter run the Lavalier into Deity’s rec 3.5 in and take an 3.5 mm out from the deity’s monitor out will it 1.send clipless audio into the GoPro? 2.will it automatically start recording when I press record on the gopro( that happens with my Sony A7rv and RODE video mic NTG) Or Should I buy the Rode wireless go with 32 bit float Tia. Your answer could revolutionise the world of motovlogging 😊

[@curtisjudd]

1) depends on whether the clipping is due to wind hitting the mic, or input from the mic being too hot for the GoPro to handle. 2) I don’t have this combination to test it, but my guess is no.

[@JamesMatthewGallagher]

Lost me at the inability to monitor. Had it in my B&H shopping cart until that moment.

[@curtisjudd]

Yeah. Pesky patents that prevent companies from combining technologies that have been around for decades…

[@JamesMatthewGallagher]

@@curtisjudd Reminds me of having a 'modern' camera like the Canon 80D that can't record more than 30 minutes of video because of........reasons. Meanwhile, my old Caon Vixia camcorders can record ten times as long.

[@Waduuheck]

Ya I believe so far the only device that can record 32 bit float while transmitting/monitoring capabilities is the rode wireless pro. They were being sued for this but they say it's fine

[@JamesMatthewGallagher]

@@curtisjudd But I appreciate your review nonetheless.

[@oren.kirschenbaum]

Great job, Curtis! Have you tested the audio drift on the recording? I've had terrible issues with the internal recording of my Theos. I tested 6 units and they all had the same drift of roughly 20ms per hour of recording, which amounts to 160ms drift per shooting day (talking about the audio recording itself, not the timecode!). This means that the internal recording does not match the live feed in length after even an hour. If the PR-2 uses the same circuit design it might suffer from the same issue, which would make the unit useless in my opinion. Note that I've not had this issue with the tentacle Track E (of which I own 4). I tried reaching out to Andrew from Deity but their EU support person will not let me talk to him directly. I find that very unfortunate and I will think twice before investing in Deity products next time.

[@curtisjudd]

I’m curious about your workflow that is sensitive to this level of drift, and also how you measured it?

[@oren.kirschenbaum]

@@curtisjuddBasically, I output a click track to each transmitter via line-in and recorded it simultaneously in my DAW and internally in each transmitter, then imported the internal recording, lined up the first click and measured the amount of drift after each hour. Since there are two independent clock masters in this setup, there must be some drift, but not 20ms per hour! The most ridiculous thing is that, according to Deity's own specifications, the built-in timecode is supposed to be much more accurate than the ADC's digital clock! How is that possible? I would be happy to send you the recorded tracks if you're interested.

[@computerjantje]

replacable standard batteries is the first thing I look at with any non-wall-powered device I might buy :)

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@i24p71]

Finally replacement to my zoom F2 BT which doesn't recognize my deity TC1 Timecode generator.

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@Dano-Media]

I think I'll be making the switch as a Tentacle owner. The only reason being price, I wanna buy 3 or 4 timecode devices and having each of them be ~$100 less is a lot of savings. Plus I'm a fan of the smaller lav with Deity, and having more upgrade paths.

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@fransv1398]

Thank you for the nice review Curtis. At 7:17 Zoom F2 can only record 32 bit.

[@curtisjudd]

Nice catch, thanks for that. 🙏

[@jannarkiewicz633]

Great review. As I have become an adult in the sound world I see the limitations of my Rode Wireless Pro so maybe the Diety-3 or Diety-4 :-) I stopped using my Rode receiver. I just use the transmitters as 32-bit float recorders. Lock mode on the Dieta-2 is really sweet as are the replaceable batteries. My video/sound/light life is tied to Typhoon Carina for a bit. Keep up the great reviews!!!!

[@curtisjudd]

I hope you're staying safe. 🙏

[@jannarkiewicz633]

@@curtisjudd Four men died on a barge 2km from my house. For the poor typhoons and flooding are a big deal. I brought over all the bread from a local shop in the morning the evac center at the basketball court (500 displaced). I took my moving cart to our version of Costco (S&R) and filed up with water/diapers/candy and walked a load over. Deliver takes 3-4 days. The local churches did the heavy lifting prepping 500 meals a day. BTW: we have LDS couples here (couples in the 70s) who are likely part of the some kind of mission. Sorry for the rant.

[@curtisjudd]

@@jannarkiewicz633 No apologies needed. Thanks for your kindness. 🙏

[@Videosbyme278]

Sounded like some popping noises at 28 seconds, what was that?

[@primo8825]

Thanks! Was waiting for this one! Definitely worth it as a back up. Does the knob have some sort of locking mechanism? Sorry if i missed it.

[@curtisjudd]

Yes - tap the button on the side 3 times to enter lock mode.

[@primo8825]

@@curtisjudd Amazing!

[@mochouinard]

1:21 Missing description of the which recorder was used

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks. That was the PR-2 with Sanken COS-11D

[@user-qc2le5tv9t]

great review!

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@jbe1official]

Just to be clear. Does this mean that instead of purchasing the TC kit, i could purchase few of these instead, for generating timecode?

[@curtisjudd]

You’ll still need TC-1s for each camera.

[@jbe1official]

@@curtisjudd Thanks you!

[@cecilioromo7587]

I know there’s a comparison at the start of the video, but how would you say the w. Lav pro fairs against a cos-11. I am a lectrosonics user but these might be something ill need for an upcoming project. Just wondering if it is worth it to have my cos-11 re-finished in 3.5mm. Great video as always!!

[@curtisjudd]

The COS-11D seems more physically durable. I haven't extensively compared the Sanken versus the W.Lav Pro, but if you like the Sanken, it seems to work well with this.

[@dima1353]

Will this recorder have less self noise and better overal sound quality than the Zoom H Essential series ?

[@Dnnsvnrjswjk]

I need to know, does this deity work as a stereo recorder for professional events recorders. So could I connect the deity with 2x rca to a stereo trs minijack from a dj mixer like a pioneer djm900nexus. If so it would be the best stereo recorder in this price point. Specially in 32bit so it will not distort. It must handle line level audio.

[@curtisjudd]

In stereo mode, it records at 24-bit only.

[@VirtualVillageStudio]

Love your thoughtful, work as always, Curtis! So I may have misunderstood your inference, but if you buy the Deity PR2 can you buy SYNC STUDIO SOFTWARE for Mac online from tentacle, and will that software work with meta-data compiled by the Diety audio recording and do the same magic for this Diety audio recording that does with the tentacle audio recording? - Creating time code audio that shakes hands with Final Cut Pro?

[@curtisjudd]

Actually, check the free app from DEITY - I added a link to the first comment above.

[@PaulCorey]

Hey Curtis, love the content!! I have a quick question if you have the time - Have you every come across a bluetooth monitoring solution? I use the Zoom f3 and I would love for it to have wireless headphones. Cheers from Ireland

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks Paul. No, unfortunately Bluetooth has too much latency which makes using it for production sound monitoring a problem, at least in my experience.

[@PeetSneekes]

Thanks so much Curtis, love to see such a positive review. Did you also try stereo recording? I kind of missed any review on how that scenario might perform, with a different bitrate and possible tools to mitigate clipping like auto gain, (digital) limiters and setting levels … 🤓

[@curtisjudd]

No, I don't have any stereo mics with 3.5mm outputs, unfortunately.

[@PeetSneekes]

@@curtisjudd No worries. ☺️ Based on your review, I’ll arrange to get my hands on a World version of the PR2 and report back ☺️

[@rogalaphotography]

How would the recording compare to the Zoom F3?

[@rogalaphotography]

I ask because for the price they are almost the same.

[@curtisjudd]

It depends. They're really for different use cases. F3 is better for boom mics and when you DON'T need to plant the recorder on a person (and you want to be able to monitor in real-time).

[@_Jess]

Where does this recorder type shine, vs a recorder/transmitter like the Wireless Pro/Mic 2? I've watched your videos on all three, it seems like they have all of the PR-2's features, plus wireless monitoring on top. I'd love to hear your experience and preference ❤

[@curtisjudd]

When you don’t HAVE to have wireless and you want a more flexible timecode workflow. Maybe a situation where wireless frequencies are super saturated (eg a stadium or urban area). Or some people may just prefer these because they’re easier to manage with their mobile app.

[@curtisjudd]

Or without an app!

[@rockfile]

Great review, thank you.

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks for watching!

[@jonathanblair2283]

Can you listen to the audio through the app while recording? The tentacle track e can and I'm wondering if this can too.

[@imgr5143]

Hi Curtis. Another great video. Can the PR2 send time code out to a connected camera? Say with the 3.5mm line out jack?

[@curtisjudd]

Yes

[@moneyboys2010]

Thank for this video Curtis. So could you clarify as maybe I did not fully understand. 1. I have 10 Tentacle Products… so I can sync these Deity? 2. The updated firmware on the Tentacle Track E to take like a shotgun mic. Can I do this as well with the Deity’s

[@curtisjudd]

1) via cable yes, but not wirelessly. 2) yes, as long as the mic requires no more than 5V.

[@skymakai]

If it can do stereo input at 24 bit, one use case would be recording from a mixing board via a split stereo ¼” to TRS stereo ⅛”. I’m especially curious if it can do this as an audio interface connected to a computer.

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, should work.

[@robertfontaine3650]

Surprisingly affordable. Nice

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@_Lucrativesounds]

Some Viviana strap *transmitter cases will fix the exposure problem? 👍👍👍

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, probably. And make it easier to hide. 👍

[@dwoodog]

Great review. So if you can only blutooth sync between the other Deity devices this would be a bit of a deal breaker for me. I just ordered a Tentacle Track E to be able to add time code capabilities to my iphone recordings, as I am getting so tired of my wave form syncs failing in Davinci. I currently have a Tascam DR10L pro.

[@curtisjudd]

You can sync via wire. I don't believe the Track E and Tascam DR-10L Pro can jam wirelessly. Maybe I'm wrong on that?

[@TheGirlSkateBoardCo]

Hey Curtis! Got a solid recommendation for headphones for video/audio editing? If you have a link, I would be more than happy to support.

[@curtisjudd]

I use Beyerdynamic DT 700 and 900 PRO X. We covered them here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmfUk4R3n91qqpIfeature=shared

[@DrRussell]

I only ever buy audio gear once you have reviewed it Mr Judd. Thank-you. Do you have any UK affiliate links so we can support your work, please?

[@curtisjudd]

Thanks, @DrRussell. 🙏 Unfortunately, I don't have any UK links, at least not yet. Best wishes!

[@thismarkp]

@curtisjudd Another great, useful, video Curtis, thank you. One quick Q - could the PR-2 be used to jam timecode to a Zoom F6? (in the same way you could use a TC-1)

[@curtisjudd]

Via cable, yes.

[@alienwisconsin]

Thanks for the great review. If I have a camera like the C70 with a timecode port, what do I need to buy to synchronize this one recorder to the camera via time code? I'm kind unclear on that from your review. Thanks for the great work I love all that you do.

[@DylanReeve]

@@alienwisconsin 3.5mm to BNC cable for the C70 I believe. Jam camera to recorder at start of the day. But cameras aren't always the best at keeping timecode so you might expect a little drift across the day. Get a TC1 if you absolutely need frame perfect sync.

[@curtisjudd]

DEITY TC-1 timecode generator.

[@pepsiq210200]

i got a question, why my wireless system might have signal drops with lav attached, but when i plug out lav and use it with built in mic (in the same situation) there is no drops? System is Godox Movelink m2

[@curtisjudd]

Not sure. Probably best to contact Godox support.

[@jenky1044]

Great review. Thank you. This looks pretty good. I wonder if the version you spoke of, from another country that allows you to monitor with headphones while recording, can be purchased if you live in the US.?? (just curious).

[@curtisjudd]

I imagine people will find a way, but I don't want DEITY to get in trouble with a lawsuit.

[@riccardodemarchi8134]

Also, the F3 works wonderfully as an audio interface. I no longer use headsets, just an sm57 and a Shure se215. Better than any headset out there.

[@focuspulling]

RODE Wireless Pro was worth including in this comparison, because it's a 32-bit float recorder in addition to its wireless capability -- and it remains my preferred product because of workflow/case/app support -- but the Bluetooth monitoring before/after recording here has raised the bar. (It remains an embarrassing mistake that the government granted a patent to the small fish weasel competitors who keep enforcing it.)

[@curtisjudd]

Had to scope it to keep it focused.

[@parkviewphotography7529]

Great review Curtis!! My question is this - is the headphone jack TRS or TRRS? On my Tascam X8, my headphone jack is TRRS and. Can hear playback nicely through my headphones. But on my Tascam DR-10L Pro, I can only use headphones that are TRS. I’m wondering if you can use headphones that have a TRRS jack? The ones I own with that I plug.

[@curtisjudd]

The jack is TRS, but most TRRS earbuds/headphones are designed to playback audio from TRS jacks. I tested with an old pair of wired Apple Ear Pods with a TRRS connector and they work fine.

[@nickglover]

Mentioning this only because I don't think you did, but I could hear a little bit of RF noise throughout the video, not sure if that's an issue with this recorder but could definitely be a problem for some if so.

[@curtisjudd]

Interesting. I looked at the spectrogram and don't see any obvious RF noise and didn't notice it when editing. You must have really good hearing. 👍

[@curtisjudd]

Correction - I did find some during Dani's sample with the Sanken. I can see it on the spectrogram but cannot hear it. That says more about my ears than anything.

[@nickglover]

@@curtisjudd It is my superpower/curse, fortunately/unfortunately... I simply cannot not hear things like that. Good for having clean audio, bad for my sanity.

[@hecjvaldez]

I wish Deitys’ TC-1 had user replaceable batteries as well. I can not afford to trash my gear. And costumer service is never available worldwide 😢

[@curtisjudd]

Me too.

[@TomKaszuba]

I wish someone would make a small unit such as this with stereo capabilities.

[@curtisjudd]

This one can record stereo. Lectrosonics also makes a stereo recorder (much more expensive and much better build quality)

[@TomKaszuba]

@@curtisjudd Thank you very much Curtis. This is great news. 👍🏻 EDIT. I guess it’s only stereo in 24 bit. Stereo in 32 bit is what I need. I have a MixPre 3 ii but it’s a touch too large for my unique need.

[@foxesofthenorth]

It's been really difficult to find the maximum input level. I was hoping to use this in a pinch with soundboards and mixers but those line levels get pretty hot. Has anyone found an official answer regarding the maximum input level?

[@curtisjudd]

DEITY didn’t publish this in their specs. I’d try asking via support.

[@vothography]

I have problems with my Sennheiser MKE-2. So far, the input signal has been too quiet on all the small recorders I have tested. Does anyone know if the MKE-2 is compatible with the Deity PR-2? (Deity Theos does not work) 😅

[@curtisjudd]

Is it wired for Sony, by chance?

[@HouseofRen]

Seams like a better version of the zoom f2. Plastic build etc but with added timecode

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@whatnow5598]

Does anyone know how this cooperates with the A7S3 and Da Vinci workflow?

[@curtisjudd]

Should be fine. And DEITY now has their own app for syncing if Resolve won’t do it.

[@mauriciolee7349]

Hi Curtis. I have one question please. Has the Line Out issue of Zoom F6 been fixed in 2024? Or do the users still have to use the workaround as mentioned in your previous video "Zoom F6 Lineout Issue & Workaround". Thank you

[@curtisjudd]

It was fixed in late 2021 as I recall. It was a hardware fix so you’ll want to buy a new one.

[@mauriciolee7349]

@@curtisjudd Thanks. You just help me save some money because I have not bought one yet.

[@BrianSantero]

Since it's a stereo recorder, is it possible to have dual mono lavaliers for interviews, for example?

[@curtisjudd]

If they share the same input connector, yes.

[@REMY.C.]

Thanks a lot Curtis for this review, been waiting for your take since they announced the product more than a year ago 😅 This recorder seems perfect for what I'd like to do, voice-overs + multicam shooting with a Fuji XT4 and a Fuji XPRO3 that both have a mic input. If I got it right I would have to jam the code to each camera for each take with the pr2? Not planning on buying a tc1 right away that's why. And if I buy a tc1, it would sit on the second camera and on the main one I'd plug the pr2 that would split the TC and the audio into the camera? Can any one of you here confirm the pr2 and tc1 work with Fuji? I'd appreciate any answer guys. Thanks all.

[@curtisjudd]

I believe that the output can only be set to output timecode OR audio, not both at the same time.

[@REMY.C.]

@@curtisjudd oh ok, I can work with that if there's TC I guess, no need for sound on the camera, I mean a backup could be nice but I can do without.

[@theothermarkwilliams]

Though it's more expensive, the cleanest way to do this would be to have a TC-1 on each of your cameras and then the PR-2 on your talent. Then have all three of those boxes timecode-synched. The system does work well.

[@curtisjudd]

@@theothermarkwilliams yes, that’s the intended workflow 👍

[@ryostran]

Can you use the timecode from the Deity within Tentacle Sync Studio? I already have a license for that which is nice but might be looking to switch gear.

[@curtisjudd]

Yes, at 30 fps or lower. Also, DEITY just released a beta app for both Windows and Mac that can handle framerate up to 60.

[@jmmy7463]

@curtisjudd Hello, Curtis. Is it possible to use the PR-2 to record from a MixPre as a "Real-time" backup and at the same time send time code to the same MixPre, using PR-2 as Master?~ Thank you very much for your reply~

[@curtisjudd]

In theory yes. I haven’t specifically tested this, but should work.

[@Mintyseden]

great review as always, thank you. the timecode workflow you mention in the end made me wonder if my canon R5C which has a timecode in/out port. Do I need to jam sync the two units at every boot (I do right?). Also since I have a dedicated timecode port, will davinchi recognise the time code track automatically, so no need for conversion?. Thank you

[@Mintyseden]

also which direction of sync is better. PR2 -> Canon r5c or the other way around.

[@curtisjudd]

*most cameras with a timecode input should have a timecode generator connected to them through the duration of a filming session because most cameras do not have a TCXO (highly accurate clock which adapts to different temperatures). If your camera supports jamming, then you can jam and it will get you pretty close, but probably not perfectly frame accurate. And yes, if the camera has a dedicated timecode input, it should record timecode to the metadata of the video clip so you do NOT have to convert it in post before syncing.

[@curtisjudd]

PR-2 to Canon, but again, I would warn that jam syncing a camera (instead of attaching a dedicated timecode generator throughout an entire session) is not the most accurate way to sync.

[@mrshaheedmalik]

I would keep a Deity TC-1 on the camera.

[@108u9]

Curtis has become a KZbinr shill and sold out to Big Learn Light and Sound!! :P

[@curtisjudd]

🤪

[@jacksonier]

When using Zoom F3 for the music recordings (say acoustic guitar sound), do you recommend using two mics, do they (2 external XLR mics) make the sound better? Will the 1 XLR mic be still stereo sound? (NOTE: I'm full noob in audio recordings, but I am beginner in the guitar playing, and about to purchase Zoom F3 myself, so, having some questions)

[@curtisjudd]

When starting, I’d start with one mic and learn how to get the best sound you can with that, then add stereo recording later. (No, recording with one mono mic does not make a stereo recording, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t play back in both speakers.)

[@jacksonier]

@@curtisjudd Okay, very interesting. Thank you! I have a followup quick Q: how the "channeling" would work in this setup? So, for example, if on the Zoom F3 I would record the audio using single input XLR mic. At the same time, I would listen to the actual audio sound using the Bluetooth Headsets, connected to the 3.5mm of Zoom F3 via the "some bluetooth adapter, am I right, that the sound, that I would potentially hear on the Bluetooth Headsets, I would hear only in the Left Ear or would it be "distributed" between the two ears? How does it (this "distribution") work, and what depends on?

[@curtisjudd]

@@jacksonierin you Digital Audio Workstation app (DAW), you drop the mono recorded track into a timeline and when you play it back, you hear it in both the left and right speakers (same thing out of both speakers).

[@jacksonier]

@@curtisjudd Yes, yes, I understand. My latest point was only about the recording "standalone", without PC, and, to monitor the live audio sound of recording , that is Zoom F3 producing, using the Bluetooth Headphones. Am I right, that I can using BTA adapter, and then monitor the live sound of the audio recording using headphones connected to the IPhone, which is connected via the Bluetooth to the Zoom F3?

[@curtisjudd]

@@jacksonier There is a setting in the recording menu called file format. If you record with one microphone, set it to mono and you will hear the same thing in both ears. If you decide to make a stereo recording with two mics, set this to stereo and you will hear the first mic in your left ear, the second mic in your right ear.

[@ZacharyWillFilms]

are there any tiny recorders with a built-in mic like the Rode Go's but with user replaceable batteries?

[@curtisjudd]

Not that I know of, sadly.

[@gunvlog]

A while ago, I bought the Zoom F2 32BIT Float field recorder and have to say, it´s a bit of a disappointment. The recording volume is fairly low. So low, that increasing volume in post actually can cause distortion in the audio. So I went back to my Tascam DR-05

[@lievenvv]

you might want to scale the volume in a different way? i.e. not linearly, but using a curve so it doesn't effect peak volume

[@curtisjudd]

You’ll need to do some dynamic range processing before boosting, such as with a compressor.

[@gunvlog]

@@curtisjudd ok, what do I have to do there, or do you have a video on that subject? Thank`s for the reply...;-)

[@curtisjudd]

@@gunvlog Here's how I do it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/onmxmat9pM95iLc

[@gunvlog]

@@curtisjudd Thank´s, I will look at it on the weekend

[@JamesClark1991]

The Track E had a firmware update a while back which allows timecode to be output through the 3.5mm headphone socket, can the PR-2 also do this?

[@curtisjudd]

Yes.

[@bigsnap5]

Will you be reviewing the Deity S mic Series?

[@bigsnap5]

Also their DXTX Plug on transmitter?

[@curtisjudd]

I hope so, yes.

[@pkolloch]

The tentacle sync app does not officially support syncing with non-tentacle 32-bit float recorders. That is quite annoying. It doesn’t reject operations but malfunctions - confirmed with Tentacle support. Davinci has no such issues. So as long as it works, I recommend that.

[@curtisjudd]

That is the inverse of my experience. I’ve not run into a case where the Tentacle sync app couldn’t read the audio timecode and convert it, while I’ve experienced several failure with DaVinci Resolve.

[@pkolloch]

I tried to sync 32bit footage from my Tascam Portacapture X8, it failed repeatedly. When exchanging emails with tentacle support, they said that this is expected since non-tentacle 32bit float files are not supported. That does not necessarily contradict your experience: if the volume of some timecode track is suboptimal or the track is noisy, then the tentacle sync setup sometimes recognizes the time code where Davinci Resolve just gives up.

[@pkolloch]

BTW, it is absolutely awesome how you answer all these questions and comments. Big fan of yours.

[@curtisjudd]

@@pkollochthanks for clarifying 👍

[@mrshaheedmalik]

Unexpected Curtis at 2:06

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@youngken_lakehousestudio8188]

Hi, how can one know which is the US version and not the US version. thanks

[@curtisjudd]

The package says (US) on the back for the US version.

[@MEHRZEUG]

Is it able to charge batteries via USB-C?

[@curtisjudd]

No.

[@Livingwithken]

Is the noise floor loud or is it just me? It sounds like it has some hollow effect

[@curtisjudd]

Noise floor and “hollow” sound are two different things. Noise floor is a combination of actual noise in the recording space and self noise generated by the mic and recorder. I don’t have a scientific measure of how much of each we have here. The hollow sound is pretty standard with my voice and ANY lavalier mic I’ve ever used.

[@Livingwithken]

@@curtisjudd ah okay 👍 I guess post processing is still a necessary step in my workflow still haha 🤣 thank you Curtis!

[@roryonabike5863]

If you’re shooting with a phone, note that the Blackmagic Camera app supports Tentacle timecode, not Deity.

[@curtisjudd]

👍

[@danielcottmain4035]

Can the Deity PR-2 have their C21 cable have the usb c put in to the iPhone and (while probably sacrificing all iPhone audio or just one track?) have a successful time code track put on the regular iPhone video recording application?

[@The_Daliban]

Couldn’t i use the Rode Wireless Pro? They are comparable, or they totally different products?

[@curtisjudd]

You could but the timecode capabilities aren’t as flexible on the RODE.

[@johnnyweissmuller5838]

Does it work with the Sennheiser MKE2?

[@curtisjudd]

It should.

[@mattwruff]

I have 2K in Tentacle Sync gear and very happy with it so not going anywhere...

[@curtisjudd]

I don't blame you!

[@sky.london]

Have u tried putting a line level into it? Would it take it?

[@curtisjudd]

Yes.

[@Sosha666]

That patent needs challenging, the only difference between this device and the sony/panasonic recording mini disc, is size due to the recording media (and MD was aluminium). I like that it does stereo, I dislike the button position and complexity, they just look fragile. And that clip looks terrible. The best thing about the tascams is the toughness.

[@curtisjudd]

It has unfortunately been tested a couple of times. JuicedLink is out of business and Lectrosonics no longer have a mono recorder as a result.