Cushion and Point Compression Shots

[@capoman1]

If there is one place on youtube I could say is THE POOL CHANNEL and also the most scientific and thorough pool channel, it is definitely Dave. There are some great channels, but no one is as thorough and no one has cataloged everything like Dave. Truly impressive.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thank you! Please help spread the word.

[@sybo10]

That was a real eye opener, been playing for ever and never really consciously used rail compression, excellent video Dr. Dave and thanks!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I'm glad you liked it. You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)

[@ERM213]

Thanks for all your help Dr. Dave, I bought a shirt to show support!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

You're welcome, and thank you. Got English?

[@inspektorgadget6175]

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[@samphilipp4997]

You will cure your anxiety with having fun practicing everything Dave teaches. I think your KZbin name is awesome.👍

[@samphilipp4997]

Thank you Dave for the awesome video. It takes some guts to go for these shots but that is what pool is about👍

[@DrDaveBilliards]

... and sometimes you don't have a choice. That's why it is important to practice all types of shots ... so you will have a decent chance to make them when they come up in game situations.

[@samphilipp4997]

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[@DrDaveBilliards]

Topics covered and supporting resources mentioned in the video: Topics [with timestamps]: - Intro [0:00] 1 - Kicking Out of a Frozen Trap [0:10] 2 - Kicking and Banking Through a Gap [1:23] 3 - Jumping a Coin into a Glass [2:09] 4 - Compressing the Cushion to Change a Frozen Angle [2:31] 5 - Going Rail-First for CB Control [3:15] 6 - Compressing the Cushion to Cheat an Angle [4:49] 7 - Avoiding Bank Shot Double Kisses [6:26] 8 - Using the Pocket Facing to Shorten a Bank [7:41] 9 - Jumping and Compressing to Allow a Bank to Clear [8:28] 10 - Compressing a Pocket Point [9:28] 11 - Kicking Off a Pocket Point [11:17] - Wrap-Up [11:53] Supporting Resources: - previous video dealing with bank/kick effects: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2LMhKShf8-Kna8 - cushion compression resource page: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/table/cushion-compression/ - point compression resource page: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/pocket/point-compression/ - Video Encyclopedia of Nine-ball and Ten-ball (VENT): drdavebilliards.com/videos/vent/

[@taylorlambert5752]

I've only been playing about a year but I never knew any of this. Awesome lesson as usual. Thank you, keep it up!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

That's one reason why this game is so awesome ... there is always new stuff to learn. I learned some things while filming this video.

[@tunefulsoulonaroll7669]

Excellent as always . Thanks for the tips, tricks and techniques shared .

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thank you, and you’re welcome.

[@capoman1]

11:30 "Off the point." This is one of the most fun. If you played bumper pool as a kid this is an obvious one. You wanna impress the spectators, pull one of these off in a game! Efren has some fantastic match play point shots.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

FYI, examples of Efren making all types of fancy pool shots during matches can be found here: billiards.colostate.edu/videos/pool-shots/

[@brianb.2894]

Had no idea about cushion compression doc. A good lesson. Thanks for the video.👍

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I'm glad you liked it. You're welcome.

[@alexmcdiarmid4849]

The only shot I knew to compress was when an object ball frozen to the rail on a diamond line, and you hit the spot on the ball that correlates to the line and with good speed and a tip down and a half tip to the left. I never knew about these! Thanks Dave!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I'm glad you learned a few new tricks.

[@MeganOHowe]

I have a trick shot/proposition shot I learned this past week got a video I recorded yesterday, Kick Jump shot practical trick shot. Can be useful in real gameplay if you need to make contact and have balls blocking all around the cue ball near the cushion. Took me 5mins to make it but I never had the ball in the exact spot each time so wasn't consistent lol lots of close calls almost had it in 90 secs

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Post a video link so we can check it out.

[@MeganOHowe]

@@DrDaveBilliards kzbin.info/www/bejne/lajWmK1riJiqirc

[@DrDaveBilliards]

@@MeganOHowe Agreed. Jumping off the cushion nose is a very useful skill. It doesn't come up often in game situations; but when it does, it helps if you have practiced it before. This is one of the shots featured in BU Exam III - Advanced Shots: billiarduniversity.org/testing/exams/ See shot A22 here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4PYpoOCj7Chq7s

[@richardhudak685]

I LEARNED TO SHOT POOL OVER 60 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS 10 FROM A VERY TALENTED OLD MAN LOU WAS A HUSTLER N I'M STILL LEARNING THE GAME ADVICE TO ANYONE PLAY EVERY DAY STROKE N STROKE

[@walterreedjr6762]

I got into pool because of a security guard in Florida

[@rocketceo]

Another great video on the beautiful subtleties of the game; thanks. For the insurmountable #9, hope yet remains. It's quite feasible to bank the 8 to the right side pocket, or even to the right upper corner pocket (yes, you can!). Banking to the right upper corner is possible both with a double-kiss (another example of using compression), and also---believe it or not---without the kiss (just a very thin bottom right hit, with as level a cue as possible). This will get a raised eyebrow even from some very experienced players. These cross-corner shots are great to know for one-pocket. Most players aren't aware of these, and they may be good topics for one of your specialty videos.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I'm glad you liked it. FYI, I showed the other banks you mention in my previous video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2LMhKShf8-Kna8

[@rocketceo]

@@DrDaveBilliards I was not referring so much to the fairly well-known double-kiss bank, but especially the direct and pretty extreme cross-corner bank. I have played for 60 years, and have never seen this until a top player showed it to me last year. I have not seen this shot anywhere on KZbin, and I thought your more advanced subscribers might like it. It's not that hard to get it close, which makes it very useful for one-pocket. I have even over-cut this by almost a diamond on the head rail. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZ_PpIaYpqmFh5I It's counter-intuitive, but low right is preferable (a 4:30 hit). This is because low left loses whitey, with a chance to scratch or kiss the object ball. Also, the hit is so thin that the gearing effect doesn't really matter. Understanding the squirt adjustment necessary is the key to the shot---basically, hit it as thin as you can, so you know exactly where to aim. Sometimes it may be the only option... IF you know the shot exists.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

@@rocketceo Nice shot. With such a thin hit, I wouldn't think any spin is required. I'll try it out.

[@rocketceo]

DrDaveBilliards The inside English prevents the straight across scratch. You also really do not wish to hit the short rail, and lose whitey, and increase the chance of a scratch up table. Basically, with inside the cue ball just careens back and forth between the long rails, moving further and further from the short rail. No scratch anywhere, unless off a ball. I like about 1.5 tips both low and right. It’s a thing of beauty, an eye-popper for most, and a nice specialty shot to have in your tool box. Thanks again for your immense contribution to our game!

[@BeanstotheBones]

cant wait for trying in my pool hall tomorow, thx dr dave ! I had my first run out`s, all of your great teaching, your the best :)

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Have fun. Congrats on your first run out! I'm glad you enjoy and benefit from my stuff.

[@306Marvin]

Loved this Dave! I learnt so much in 15 minutes :)

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I'm glad to hear it.

[@TinaWoodruff-pm6il]

Very informational and entertaining! Thanks!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

@@TinaWoodruff-pm6il I’m glad you liked it.

[@manuelromero7618]

Awesome knowledge... Thanks for the share!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thank you ... and you're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)

[@davidfuller8780]

Very good lesson! Never thought of this

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thanks! I'm glad you learned something new.

[@capoman1]

11:00 In and out of the pocket. One of the bars I played at has a corner pocket that rejects balls. Sometimes you'll see they've screwed down the plastic insert inside the pocket. Here they had not. So if you hit a ball to that corner hard, the ball would sink AND THEN BOUNCE OUT due to a little give in that plastic insert not being secured! Talk about a hard one to swallow, make the shot and the table says "nuh uh."

[@DrDaveBilliards]

It happens to the pros too. See: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gH_Vc5pqoqiJd9U

[@samuelleevallongo9752]

Awesome lesson those corner hooks are very common I normally try mass e out it thanks again, 😎

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thanks. I'm glad you liked it.

[@rogerscottcathey]

That last shot explains one of Efren's amazing shots. That first case shown, could one be called on that for pushing?

[@DrDaveBilliards]

The first shot is not a push shot. The CB does separate from the tip immediately, as the CB starts to compress the cushion. I guess somebody could try to call it a push shot, but they would be wrong. For more info, see: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/push/

[@rogerscottcathey]

@@DrDaveBilliards : Thanks for clarification.

[@tslaza]

Great vid! Thank you! I am now a subscriber. Great content and info keep it coming!!!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I'm glad you like it. I plan to keep posting stuff, but I also already have hundreds of videos available online so check them out. I good place to start is the playlists I have created: kzbin.infoplaylists

[@greghoman3578]

You produce really good content,

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thanks.

[@simonmollevinge843]

Great stuff as always! 🎱

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thanks!

[@intercrew99]

Amazing incredible stuff!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thanks. I'm glad you liked it. There's a lot more where that came from on my channel video collection: kzbin.infovideos

[@danieldenham4256]

At 9:37 Are you still using center to top English and hitting it firm?

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I meant to, but I hit it with sidespin by mistake. That's why I didn't show the spin diagram on that one. Also, the type of spin isn't really important here. The speed is what makes the shot work.

[@ericpoolguy29]

This shot came up in a CSI tournament and dont qoute me but i think it was j. Filler who executed the shot! Learned the trick from the commentary to force the ball into the side! Went downstairs and tired it out! Great to know!

[@cziffra1980]

I'm nowhere near the level to be working with any of these concepts, but I'm really curious- to what extent can most of these be used in top level play? We see all the crazy looking trick shots from Reyes, but would he and other top players be using these things and with reliable success? Are players using a lot of these things regularly (with it largely going by unnoticed, due to the level of expertise required to understand the difficulty in the shot)? Or is it more something that you can achieve in a video via a few takes, but which would be too unreliable compared to playing safe?

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I've seen many of these techniques applied by top players during actual play (except for jumping the coin into a glass, which is just a silly and fun trick shot). Many of the shots don't come up often, and sometimes a safety is a better alternative; but when a top player is forced into one of these options, they will usually have a feel for how to succeed (or at least get close), because they have practiced these shots before. Shots 5, 7, 10, and 11 are particularly important because they come up more than the others and they can be mastered fairly easily with practice.

[@cziffra1980]

@@DrDaveBilliards cheers. How about things like 1 2 and 4? Would they be quite low percentage ones to judge perfectly on a first attempt?

[@DrDaveBilliards]

@@cziffra1980 Those shots aren't as tough as they might look. As with anything, with practice the percentages go up.

[@mosesng6050]

Thanks for the advice. By the way, is it rare (or often) to do a pool shot like these that you demonstrated to us?

[@DrDaveBilliards]

These types of shots rarely come up in game situations. But when they do, it helps if you have practiced them before. They are also fun to try.

[@poolhustlersinc]

I hope I gave you some inspiration for this video. Of course, I can't always explain it like University Professor. Lol, great work Doctor 👍

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I'm glad you liked it. In terms of inspiration, I didn't need much because I already had a ton of stuff dealing with this on my resource pages that I learned over 20 years: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/table/cushion-compression/ and: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/pocket/point-compression/ A conversation with Bob Jewett (fellow Billiards Digest columnist) really helped also.

[@CringeBasedDuality]

Instructions not clear: deformed the rail and now the club manager is asking for my credit card details...

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Deforming a cushion is OK ... deforming a rail is not. :)

[@MasterZenPool]

Is there a significant difference in compression and action between Diamond and Gold Crown? I have a GC IV.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I'm not sure about Diamond table cushion compression, but I know they bank short and fast, so the cushion setup is very different from most other tables. The cushions on my Olhaussen (Accu-Fast I think) compress more than other tables I've played on, including typical GCs.

[@subele_music]

This was so cool

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thanks.

[@lonoster8501]

Hi Dr. Dave, hope you're having an awesome day. (WOW THIS IS LONG - Grab coffee) I've written you before. LOVE that unlike most, you actually respond! I have some questions, haven't watched this video yet, but just by the title, I find it funny that I was trying to explain some things to a friend. HA!!! I just clicked on "READ MORE" and you ARE covering my conversation......Based off my personal perception of the character I see in you from your videos. I truly believe 100% that you REALLY not only care if people learn, but you WANT them to learn, because it's such an awesome game with a paradigm of learning that is endless (If Paradigm is the proper wordage?) We both know you didn't wake up with all your knowledge, so I have some questions & requests if u take them. 1) I'd like to know if u currently have a copy of "The 99 critical shots" I have not read a ton of books, but viewed many & personally, I've never seen a better one to this day (Not that I look, but...) 2) If you have it, I'd like your opinion of the book and if you don't agree, can you give me some examples & I'm a big boy, so you need not be tender if you don't share my feelings. I also don't lie, so if you have books written, I've never seen one. 3) If I asked you to do a video on a few things would you? The reason I asked if you have that book is because I would like you to perform some of the shots haha & yes I know what I said, but I'm the type of person that if you tell me....Shot number 75 "THE BY-PASS SHOT" and you have hit center, I will do that and a bunch of other things NOT in the book. If you have the book that's on page 130 & I explained to never ONLY try the way in the book. I said you could hit deeper in and compress the rail, use bottom with speed, try bottom left & right, which in any book, nothing explains everything & it is ON YOU to take the knowledge given, try different things. When you miss, remember what happened & it's not a failure. On page 137 shot 81 there's a diagram of the same contact point using center with 2 different speeds, so again rail compression. Bank shots where you have a ball in the way, going down a bit further, use more speed to compress the rail (probably reverse too) and this was all today, then I come on and see this......... I guess the most important question is, if I asked you to do videos on topics "IF" you believed they were helpful, would you do it? I am trying to figure out what videos of yours I want him to buy, but he is in another state, so I don't know his skill level, but he is going to make some videos of things I ask him to do and that should help me. I "THINK" from things he has said, he may be an average bar player. I played in "A" leagues and always carried a 9, from our conversations I think he's a mid "B" player. So any advice "IF" I'm right about his level for videos?

[@lonoster8501]

Also & no offense, I'm usually not big on DVD pre-made sets, where you or whoever decides for me, I would rather pick and choose what I want. Let's say you have a set of 4 for $60 (pretending all sets are the same price) Would you allow someone to say I want this DVD from this set, this one from that set & so on, picking say four or however you do it for the $60 price? I need to go on your site again!!! I'm asking because I "THINK" I did and looked at say a set of 4 and I'd only want 2 of those four, but 2 of a different four. If they are individual DVD's I can't see you having an issue with that or am I wrong?

[@DrDaveBilliards]

1.) and 2.) I do have "The 99 Critical Shots in Pool." I don't like the illustrations -- the balls are too big, and some things that aren't quite right; but, in general, it is a good bad that covers a good collection of shots and principles. 3.) I often take video requests and I often do videos based on those requests. I already have a very long list of video topics that I want to cover, but I often add to and re-prioritize the list. Lots of info and purchasing advice for my full-length instructional videos can be found here: drdavebilliards.com/products/info-advice/#advice

[@DrDaveBilliards]

@@lonoster8501 If you stream or download the DVDs you can pick and choose any collection of videos you want: drdavebilliards.com/videos/stream/ You can also order physical DVDs individually here: drdavebilliards.com/ I also offer many package deals. You can find them on the purchase pages for the individual products. I don't have any package deals for 4 DVDs, but I do have several for 3, 5, 10, 20, and larger. If you wanted to order a package deal and replace one of more of the DVDs with something else, I would be happy to do that for you. Just place an order for a package deal and send a follow-up e-mail letting me know what you want replaced and with what.

[@jakeriley4578]

What kind of cue do you use?

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Predator Revo 12.4.

[@jakeriley4578]

DrDaveBilliards thankyou love your videos

[@adelatansinsin3228]

Hey dave i noticed you changed your letter font

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I did. Were you the one who suggested it. If so, thank you. The new font looks much better, IMO.

[@adelatansinsin3228]

@@DrDaveBilliards ok thanks

[@sorak185]

You should get an actual good slow motion camera, it would make things like compression and spin much easier to see clearly.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

In the past I had access to a much better high-speed camera, and I already have hundreds of super-slow-motion videos here: billiards.colostate.edu/high-speed-video/ Agreed, it would be nice to have a nice high-speed camera again, but the iPhone slo-mo-video feature is actually good enough for most pool things. But you are right ... it is not quite good enough for certain things.

[@samphilipp4997]

I thought the camera worked great. How much money do you want spent?

[@DrDaveBilliards]

@@samphilipp4997 I agree. The iPhone slow-mo video is fine for most things. I don't see a need to shell out a bunch of cash for a fancy high-speed camera.

[@hawktime]

I would call a push shot on the first shot of the video. Even when the slo mo quality is not so good you can see a double hit.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I don't see a push or double hit in the video. Regardless, a foul cannot be called unless the foul is clearly obvious, which it wasn't even in slow-motion instant replay.

[@BlackDynamite901]

My mind hurts trying to figure out why left instead of right English is used for that shot. 4:06

[@DrDaveBilliards]

The CB still has left spin when it comes off the OB so when the CB hits the opposite rail, it rebounds to the left. The videos and info here might help: billiards.colostate.edu/tutorial/sidespin/ and here: billiards.colostate.edu/faq/rail-cut/cue-ball-control/ Enjoy!

[@BlackDynamite901]

@@DrDaveBilliards thanks!

[@DrDaveBilliards]

@@BlackDynamite901 You're welcome. I aim to swerve. :)

[@BlackDynamite901]

@@DrDaveBilliards That should really be on a shirt for league night 😅😅😅

[@lonoster8501]

OK, you'll have to read my reply in my own other comment starting with "Hi Dr. Dave" Exam I Overview - demonstrations and scoring Exam II Overview - demonstrations and scoring......Can you explain this please? Sounds like or I'm guessing the buyer would send you videos for you to grade on the topic of say YOUR video one? Also, I saw different ones, but for $50 u get an Electronic Diploma & would I also get like certified test results? Also and so so NOT being sarcastic, what is the benefit of me having a Diploma from you, as it what could one use it for? Teaching others? Would it help you to get into higher up tournament play? Just curious

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Information on the BU Exam and diploma process can be found here: billiarduniversity.org/testing/diploma/ As far as the reasons to get a diploma, see "Why You Should Work Toward a Diploma" at the bottom of the page.

[@lonoster8501]

@@DrDaveBilliards I actually went to it after I wrote this. Pretty cool. Watched the video of Shane. I actually lived in Rapid city too, but was hurt and couldn't do anything like playing pool. I'd have loved to play him

[@butchie0415]

You should do a collab with Efren Reyes. I would definitely watch that.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I would love that, but it probably is not very likely to happen. In lieu of that, I have this collection of videos where I analyze many of Efren's shots and choices: kzbin.info/aero/PLH9d4KFY28XscHllvlP_rVC1jQjDXZmYD Enjoy!

[@butchie0415]

@@DrDaveBilliards LOL! I watch all your videos doc

[@cgr998]

8:11 genius

[@DrDaveBilliards]

I didn't make it up. The technique is usually attributed to Eddie Taylor, one of the best bankers of all times. But I agree -- it is an awesome shot.

[@snookershorts3044]

This is advanced pool

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Agreed. These types of shots are rare and take some practice if you want to have a chance of succeeding when they do come up.

[@larryleadman3356]

Freeze them together shoot 45 degrees

[@DrDaveBilliards]

That works, as does many variations to that theme, some of which were demonstrated in this and my previous video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2LMhKShf8-Kna8

[@jerryhughes4256]

Yea, another video from Dr Dave. I’m sure glad you retired.

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Lately, it seems like I've been working than I did before I "retired." But this is fun "work."

[@larryleadman3356]

I don't have pool gods. I have only one god the living god

[@DrDaveBilliards]

You are one of the lucky ones. The "pool gods" can be cruel at times. They are vengeful gods.

[@danvaking]

Moin

[@DrDaveBilliards]

THX

[@lonoster8501]

This video is BAD A$$

[@DrDaveBilliards]

Thanks!