Custom Aluminum Footpegs - CNC Machined on HAAS TM-1

One of a set of custom CNC machined aluminum footpegs.
CAD by SolidWorks
CAM by HSMWorks
Machined on HAAS TM-1 Toolroom Mill

[@waiitwhaat]

welcome to the, "you should probably be asleep" side of youtube. Hope you have a safe journey.

[@pm3577]

I just get off a 12 hour shift CNC machining, did a bit of manual today too, and watch CNC machining on KZbin? 🤷‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@dazzlelaacarpentry-dazzlefpv]

Really nice work mate . Quite therapeutic watching it

[@PJgearhead]

Pretty sweet piece of gear there. Thanks for sharin, always interesting to see machines do their jobs.

[@jameslee522]

Once you hit the clearance plane reverse the spindle at a high speed to fling those bits that are tangled up on there.

[@aaronanderson7619]

I wonder what bars Bigfoot runs. Awesome peg.

[@KIDZKARTBLDER]

awsome where can i order mine at ......gotta get a set ...

[@toddmmendoza]

How long did it take you to program and what software? Pretty great, otherwise!

[@cyoror1]

Good job man!! Great!

[@davidbranham3042]

Any chance you would be willing to share your model? I have been thinking about building a set of pegs for my drz on my mini mill for quite some time now just haven't had time to draw them up.

[@rparkerton]

Less RPM and more Feedrate will clear up your drill loading up problem.

[@shagger1968]

Knackered drill on op 2 lets you down lol

[@Randomfrikinhero]

that machine makes better beats that most dj's

[@skwerldeath]

It started to remind me of a NIN song.....

[@anchoriticparliament6343]

Beat me to it... By 5 years...

[@mazaryadharmaps921]

@@skwerldeath +9+

[@joepie221]

I am far from the consummate authority on CNC milling, but I have to comment. With all due respects. In your early operations, you spend a lot of time milling a deck around that square pin, then you mill away the majority of that deck in the very next op. I call that precision scrap. As for that hurricane cyclonic slot milling, not only does that beat the balls off the machine, you actually travel 4 times farther to finalize your slot. I've seen a lot of guys programming with fusion 360 use that technique. It may work in some circumstances, but I'm not a fan. I like the pegs. Nice job. I'll be curious to hear how long they stay horizontal as the aluminum sees repeated use.

[@hansdietrich83]

If your machine is't rigit or strong enough for a full slotting op, adaptive slotting is definitly the right way

[@MOREENGINEERING]

I like the comment about "why not just buy one?" When you have your toys (CNC Mill) you want to play with it. It is not about being cheap or better, it is more about making it and having it on somebody's bike or such just adds a bit. As machinists sometimes we just gotta make something..even if it does not serve a purpose sometime. I love making things on my Tormach, despite the fact that I can buy it from an engineering supplies cheaper. But who cares, i made it!

[@jonathanflores3748]

You said it Sir! there's certain pleasure as an Inventor, designing and creating things that works and helps people or just for the fun it's awesome!

[@judownie]

Totally agree!!

[@skipopotamus]

Need a tool, make a tool.

[@davidguzgut2028]

@@jonathanflores3748 .. Kiiikwkuv

[@pentachronic]

The problem with people who say “just buy it” is that they don’t realise that the people who create the things that they buy are people like you!! Someone’s got to create stuff and use their skills.

[@claypruim1481]

Shows a highly sophisticated modern machine... Everyone in the comments: make a sick beat with it!

[@JonProce]

Sometimes that's the case when you're prototyping a part. This was the second set I'd ever done, and there were lots of changes between this set and the first, and just as many since this was finished. Thanks for watching.

[@JonProce]

Hey everyone. Re: the seemingly high feed rates, keep in mind that parts of this video are sped up to keep you from succumbing to death via boredom. Re: other manufacturing methods like die casting etc., keep in mind this is a one-off part! This is the first and only set of these that have ever been (and maybe will ever be) made. CNC machining from billet is the only way to go for a prototype like this! Re: buying commercial pegs: these are MUCH bigger than a normal footpeg. They're designed to accommodate someone in a wide snow boot, not in a riding boot or shoe. Thanks for watching!

[@JonProce]

Proper info? Care to elaborate? I am the maker, and I know plenty, including how non-optimized the toolpaths were.

[@shafiahmad1812]

Jon Proce yaaaa sir....u r right

[@shafiahmad1812]

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[@cncguru777]

So what are the tools used, and the real feeds and speeds?

[@JonProce]

cncguru777 Spindle speed maxed at 4000 for most or all tools (surface speed still too low). The long tool is a Cormorant 390 (I think). Used a DOC of about 0.05" and a feed rate of 140ipm for all of the roughing stuff. Pretty standard rates for everything else. Chip load of 0.004" or so on the 1/2" tooling and 0.015" on the 1/4".

[@АндрейМонахов-ш6н]

Объясните, что это за деталь? Отчего и для чего!?

[@MrHuyabovich]

Подножка для мотоцикла.

[@5oclockshadowbanned154]

Why aluminium ? Answer: that's the hardest metal a haas can handle.

[@BebenX]

Intresting.

[@5oclockshadowbanned154]

@@BebenX yes ! It's aluminium Bob!

[@BebenX]

@@5oclockshadowbanned154 Man i dont undersdtand, do you have haas machine yourself?

[@JonProce]

Because it is, and it's not :) Just a hobby shop.

[@polskitechnik]

You should drill with faster feedrate. Chips will bigger so you will not have to clean your drills. 3.30 min, or decrease rpm.

[@fernandoguilhermelamboia3037]

Quhbz

[@JonProce]

Just a hobby. Learned mostly via trial and error, plus whatever I could find on the internet (which is almost nothing). Program & operate. Can't effectively do either without knowing a thing or two about the other.

[@mattberry8716]

You can tell it's a Haas. It's not rigid at all.

[@ThinJizzy]

Oh man, I feel like you could make a sick beat with the cutting sounds of the bit. Lmao

[@zackworrell]

+Micah Montoya do it!

[@LoBeau53]

I kinda liked the stepped look on the underside befor the final smoothing process.

[@Mr..SHISHMAREV]

Я ТУТ ОДИН РУССКИЙ!?👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@nbultman_art]

these aluminum footpegs used on motorcycles are massed produced using casting right? not CNC

[@FluffMuncher]

Nick Bultman Depends on the price point. Billet aluminium is stronger than cast due to the way its forged. So you can buy Billet CNC footpegs and you can buy cast ones, price difference is like $250 a set vs $100 a set, roughly.. But if you look up people who have done home foundry work on youtube and look at the quality of it once milled vs the quality of these and the difference is night and day.I didn't understand this until I started milling and when you cut something like 6071 or 7075 vs cutting up a cast piece, it literally falls off like butter..

[@Moonless6491]

Her come all the comments from the master machinists telling you they could do it 3 times faster

[@777VOID-1]

Lol

[@swaggyp1219]

At 5:00 fist of the north star is that u?? (Surprised Pikachu face)

[@JonProce]

Not to mention that this is in a backyard shop! Thanks for your support.

[@MWolverine1969]

Very cool looking foot pegs! I'd be interested to see how long they last, they'd look awesome anodized! I would make one suggestion, you should kill the coolant and use an airblast for removing chips. The coatings that are on the tools are made so that when the tool is hot it activates, spaying it with coolant doesn't allow the coating to work properly and when a hot end mill or insert is sprayed with coolant, it causes micro fractures and will kill your tool life over time. I've been selling carbide tooling for a long time and I have few if any customers that mill any material with coolant. Here's tip If you run a tool too fast and it gets all galled up with aluminum, soak the tool overnight in toilet bowl cleaner, it will come out the next day as good as new ;) thanks for posting your work!

[@PopupblockerE10]

These are actually pretty nice tips... Thanks!

[@VLif3]

I don't know why but I could watch this machine working for hours...

[@Jake-nh4nr]

Not if you use to work on them ... I hate them lol I just wanted to see the finished product

[@jr540123]

Ditto. If you run one, save for a new job or machine, it gets old. Especially on a 12 hour day running the same machine/style of parts all day.

[@bobmcalindon4631]

Why not just Z-plunge those first three top corners would have been a much faster yet! Then all you need is clean up profile cuts. Melin Tool makes some new 5 Flute Aluminum finishers. As well as some High Velocity end mills

[@Bowtie41]

At 9:00,I like the look of leaving the stairstep roughing cuts on the bottom.Light deburr and done.The final product is cool too.

[@Ayleen_Hazar]

Интересно, когда догадаются писать музыку с помощью подобных станков?

[@JonProce]

You're talking about the bottom? It's the bottom of a dirtbike footpeg, and this is a prototype part. I assure you it's more than sufficient, and the application doesn't justify the cost of profiling for another 15-30 minutes.

[@JonProce]

Yup. If you've got a spare 5 grand or so sitting around you too and have a Renishaw Probe :)

[@chrisyboy666]

Before Anybody starts emailing saying I don't know what I'm talking about I spent 15 years at deckel maho as an applications engineer and the last 5 years @ WFL on the apps HAAS are by far the cheapest most fragile machines out their

[@mtmx7]

i agree i ran a haas lathe for 4 yrs set up operator constantly had to comp the machine if it was a plus or minus one dimension kinda lame, but i love the control! my boss was like go back to school for programming and I was like why? I can point to point g code on a lathe for the most part but no one does that, there is no time. I worked for tredegar molded products building plastic injection molds manually vertical mills, lathes, surface grinders, jig grinders, and bores. Im now just trying to learn cnc, way different thought process. I dont have to square a block so im kinda struggling w the fact that i have no one to offer help in the milltronics department.

[@bobcatt2294]

I was planning on having a family, however after watching this, I have canceled my plans and will be getting an upscale CNC instead.

[@JonProce]

Bobcatt22 you're making the right choice! One of these machines is far cheaper than a child!

[@bobcatt2294]

Jon, after viewing this video, I had an elated experience as thou the Pontiff had just tossed that holy water on our heads when we were little people. Dude, it happened at the very point of the auto tool change.

[@davidelliott5843]

I was going to say “why not use pressure die casting” but as a DIY project it’s amazing. You could use the machine to make casting dies. ;)

[@ngochong8477]

A big aluminum block plus a high-tech machine and a long time for machining. but only one footrest for motorbikes. Is it worth the money for rice bowl?

[@JonProce]

Definitely did not do that programming using the HAAS control. I can't imagine doing anything more than very basic operations with it.

[@robinjitsingh3733]

Hi, witch program are you using? For cam ?

[@JonProce]

That could be faster! Depends on the MMR of the different tools and feeds/speeds. Different strokes for different folks!

[@Sms68]

I'd Blow a small horse for that Machine and I don't even like Horses. Hook me up Brother with some Pegs...AWESOME !!

[@JonProce]

Lots of it is running at 2x or 3x

[@JonProce]

Older used TM-1 will typically go for $2X,000

[@JonProce]

SolidWorks for CAD an HSMWorks for CAM

[@1984rafael]

perfect

[@shafiahmad1812]

hi ,sir i am shafi ahmad sir i am student and i want to become a CNC Machined programmer sir i am doing study at NSIC . sir i like the way u doing work sir i want do work with u .....plyzzzz....

[@17hmr243]

why did you scrub the steps of the back side of the peg i quite liked the look of them like that ?

[@darrellclark9596]

Million $ machine $15 nmaterial to make a $300 peddle..🤔 Ill take a dence plastic peddle...light cheaper and made from recyclable sea garbage... Cool to watch though..for sure

[@KadekRegen]

Too slow, 2x speed much better

[@waswer4057]

Cry

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[@mikemai8568]

What do you recommended speed and feed for a face mill when facing the stainless steel and aluminum? Also, what do you recommended on how to tap a deep hole like 2 inches deep?

[@eflanagan1921]

You know what they say about big footpegs ? He must have really big feet ! First thought was must be a mecheng or process engr student project , next programmer has a sense of humor !. Very cool ! I don't write programs , I just wreck tooling ! (used to) .ps I have a brick of some aerospace 7075 that needs to go away . Ed

[@90SecondsofAviation]

Sooo You have a motorcycle ? wat kind of a model ?

[@onefugowie]

by pass the first part the drilling and try Swift Carb ...look into it TruMill ramp mill up to 14 deg. than use Trochoidal milling ..yea yea everybody has a opinion but contact Swift carb and they will cut the time of that part in half guaranteed ..they have a cutter that will run

[@youstupidmoron]

That was beautiful! I just bought a four axis router, I'll never be able to do work like that with it but I can't wait to become skilled enough to make my own beautiful parts.

[@spleno1]

Very cool peg. Way too much work and seems their should be a faster way of cutting that same piece out...? For all the time and electricity it took youll have to charge $400 per peg!

[@wb93612]

If you had read my comments in context of what I was responding too you would see I was not bashing the guy. "What's with all the armchair programming" in reply to all the people saying "why didn't you do this or that." "Apparently he should have been fired," in response to an earlier post where someone said his technique would get him fired. Read what I'm responding too. Even Jon here knew what I was talking about.

[@wb93612]

Read my comment again. It was in response to all the criticism and "armchair programmers" bashing the guy's technique. I wasn't criticizing him. My first sentence is "What's with all the arm chair programming? Geesh" Then I go on to point out the fools who said he should be fired and how everyone knows how to do it better. I was defending him. Read the rest of the comments then read mine.

[@wb93612]

You missed my point. I was pointing out all the people bashing this guys programming and cutting techniques. My reply was in response to a bunch of people that had said he would be fired, he can't program, his technique is wrong, do this do that... Obviously it didn't come across that way. I wasn't bashing the guy at all but defending him. He got it though, read his reply to me. Hopefully this clears it up for you.

[@fall22123]

Should put some edge-breaks in there-unless you plan to tumble them or something. I've put them on a 3D edge before. There isn't much I dislike more than deburring by hand. That would make a cool footpeg if you anodized them. Hard-coat black would stand up to quite a bit of abuse. Don't listen to the other assholes on here. The part looked fine. You'd be surprised how many customers op for a slightly rougher finish vs extra cost because of all the machine time needed for a smoother finish.

[@ericmathis6699]

Hey bro, do you do this as a profession or just a hobby? Where did you learn? Do you program and operate or just operate? I love cnc machines and am super intrigued just watching them. I know you can make decent money both programming and operating, im trying to decide whether or not I want to spend a year or two going to school though to learn.

[@gusbisbal9803]

Jon I cast and it costs me about $1500 to set up and I can get just as good accuracy. Casting equipment is cheaper than milling. Milling is the conduit from CAD to casting. You can cast items in a single piece that can't be milled etc. have a look at it. Its worth investigating.

[@wb93612]

What's with all the armchair programming. Geesh. Apparently he can't program correctly, uses wrong techniques, and should have been fired. If I posted any of my toolpaths here I can't imagine the beating even though I own my own shop with several CNCs running full time.

[@krowe33]

Jon, nice work and nice job programming. Pay no mind to the haters questioning your methods. I am a CNC Machinist and Programmer as well and have been doing this for 15 years. Are you using Mastercam? The trochoidal cuts in the slots are a LOT faster than drilling and slotting.

[@JonProce]

I use HSMWorks for CAM. Thanks for watching!

[@JonProce]

Most of it is sped up. Feeds like that would kill ballscrews and servos.

[@chrisyboy666]

The way mastercam edge cam every other cam package works is the emphasis is put on creating a model of the part the post then generates a program with a machining strategy tools path cutters needed etc basically fool proof if your already knocking injection mould standard work out with point to point g code getting your head round any cam package should be easy enough you don't need to be a shit hot machinist to use the cam they are designed to be idiot proof in the first place.

[@JonProce]

Hi. That is a Renishaw probe. It is linked to the machine via an electronic eye, and it will feed position information into the machine via macro programs. The first macro that you saw was it finding the exact center of stock stock, and feeding the coordinate into the machine as the G54 home location. Thanks for watching.

[@alkouto]

Hey, nice work, can you send me the cad model? thank's

[@valerii5696]

Выглядит так , будто битой убивали муху)) Такой дорогостоящий станок..., заготовка могла быть с меньшим количеством припуска, и сколько ж тут проходов и операций.. неужели нельзя отштамповать или хотя бы упростить. Надеюсь это деталь для космического корабля , иначе я потеряю веру в современное машиностроение))

[@lakerfan82k3]

Hahaha. I watch a guy at my shop drop a 10,000 dollar Reni out of a spindle.... I think the draw bar was loosening to the point where it just so happened to drop one of the more pricey things for that mill.

[@Greenmachine305]

Strange toolpaths.

[@lukeskywalker6954]

Когда нет бабы рядом, какую только хуйню не делают!!! И слишком много ненужных операций!

[@fall22123]

Ok I'm sorry. I could tell this was a small "hobby shop" and I didn't like some of the comments I was seeing. The people bashing him were probably "button pushers" anyway.

[@traillife]

I feel compelled to try to use from .18 to 1:38 in some music. maybe use it in a drum beat or something, its very rhythmic. Any chance you could send me a wav or mp3 file of that?

[@JASCOBAR]

I am an operator/programmer and I think I know what you mean. Only I do not think a cable channel of this sort of activity would go over at the RED ROOF INN or any other tawdry motel.

[@ttjarrett]

I recently saw a lecturer at my university drive a Renishaw probe at full rapids through a 30mm thick HDPE workpiece. The probe was totalled, but it was quite amusing.

[@tmk5522]

that's pretty cool, but seems like alot of work for a heavy peg, with dull teeth. Why not buy a Ti peg?

[@amph3]

Check your tool rotation speeds. That’s an torture for an German mechanic technician. 😄

[@Hallabalogee]

Why no high-speed dynamic toolpath? Would have knocked off all those depth cuts and given more life to your tool

[@Hallabalogee]

Why no high-speed dynamic toolpath? Would have knocked off all those depth cuts and given more life to your tool

[@jlw1911]

I like that tool path, too bad hsmworks cost about half what that machine does. Does that TM1 have a renishaw probe?

[@Junkboy888]

Man you gotta watch your back in that shop when you turn off the lights. I swear the machine is saying “Kill All Humans” at 7:47 - 7:57. They'll rise up to get us all one day. Other than that pretty nice work.

[@nathannoble9741]

Its boring to watch. It would drive me nuts running this program. But the end product looks ok.

[@wb93612]

READ MY COMMENT AGAIN. REad what I was respnoding to. It was in response to early commenters bashing this guy. Read his reply to me. I was defending him.

[@IGotN0]

Who ever your boss is would probably die if he seen the finishes we leave at my shop. 12 mil ball nose .075 stepovers 250 inches per minute 8000 rpm. Get r Done

[@davidwrighton3914]

Now to deburr it---about 4 hours work there to do it manually on a bridgeport ---if you are skilled ----would not need to spend a week to write a programme ---technology is brilliant ---but only sometimes

[@Juxtaposed1Nmotion]

this would take an afternoon to program, and run. the fuck are you on about?

[@Capnmax]

The slot boring is particularly frightening at double time! :D

[@douro20]

I say if you have to buy a Haas milling machine, stick with a smaller machine like this or one of their routers.

[@nategoodner]

Dynamic tool paths are so scary! Yet so effective! Good work

[@japhillips]

Great video. It is kind of a rule that parabolic drills work best with aluminum operations? They definitely seem to get the scrap out of the way.

[@fredrick72100]

A fast spiral drill would help get chips out of the hole and you wouldn't need to stop and remove them by hand.

[@HomeGuitarMods]

Nice sized peg! Id like to see that break off on a crash! Have you gotten to ride with them? How do they feel?

[@freekingawwsome]

Comment 777 would have been nicer to see you not drill holes

[@TomasSab3D]

Crazy number of steps had to be done correctly. All the manual repositioning, and getting the Code correct and matching... impressive.. What is the principle behind the probe? Is it made using some strain gauges - like a load cell, Or is it wired to close a circuit on contact? I assume the ball radius and flexibility are selected to close the circuit at the center of the spindle? I'm trying to experiment with DIY probing. Made a strain gauge probe - it is too sensitive to work anywhere near to the stepper motors. Magnetic fields are too strong...

[@willrime]

Congratulations, Nice Job. But Just a question, running CNC like that with so much feed, isn't it good for the ball screw? poor machine.

[@RageXBlade]

I was hoping for autodeburr on the back side, but then i noticed this came out 7 years ago, lol

[@bucketinabag]

Lol