Machining an INJECTION MOLD!

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@squidgymop1
@squidgymop1 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. This reminds me of when i was about 8 years old, my father used to take me to work with him during the school holidays about 20 years ago. He used to be a die setter/ machine operator at an injection moulding buisness that also had a machine shop with about ten guys working there that made their own dies. My job was to snap the parts off the runners and sort the parts into boxes but i used to sneak off to the machine shop and watch guy that did the cad/cam work, blew my mind when he showed me that you could send the drawing downstairs to the cnc machine and get a die cut. Still blows my mind now :)
@Astrobrant2
@Astrobrant2 2 жыл бұрын
So many things in engineering blow my mind, too. I had a metalworking course in college back when our most sophisticated numerical control system was rolls of paper that you programmed by punching holes in it. Heck, I'm still impressed with impact dot-matrix printers... and they've been basically obsolete for 30 years!
@Battle-Fab
@Battle-Fab 6 жыл бұрын
As a plastics injection molder for Corning Inc (Life Science division from Oneonta, NY), I really did appreciate and enjoy this video. I am responsible for maintenance on a Toyo SI 400V electric machine. Along with just making sure our 20+ other machines stay running, and deal with our QC deformities. Some of our biggest molds weight 5700-6000lbs. Great video
@xyzzyx7669
@xyzzyx7669 6 жыл бұрын
So they are "small" (or "medium") in size. ;-) Fun begins from 10 tons up.
@nerd1000ify
@nerd1000ify 6 жыл бұрын
If you make pipette tips or Falcon tubes there's a good chance that I use stuff from your machines daily.
@PSENS
@PSENS 6 жыл бұрын
Hello and greatings from Germany, at first sorry about my terrible english ... but i try my best! I follow your channel since a couple of years, and i respect what you have reached form your apartment to your shop now!! I'm an ... i don't know this is so called in us ... master of injection molding with years of practical experience with prototyping injection mold systems. You have done a nice job with your injection mold! Perhaps i can give you some tips what you can do so that the man of molding have a easier life ;). Air is the biggest problem of every injection mold process, it is always good to grind or mill out a tunnle from the cavity of your part, starting with 1mm (sorry metric :D) distance from the cavity, on the opposite side of your injection inlet, all the way out between your cavity plates. Later when the mold is on the molding machine and there are problems with ejecting air, you can easily grind this 1 mm bridge step by step down to help the air going out. The same thing you can do with your ejector bolts, you can grind a flat plane on each, with a distance to your cavity to eject air over your ejector bolts, or open your ejector holes in your cavity plate with a bigger diameter, but with a distance to your cavity. Air isnt just a problem of burning plastic while injection (in germany we call it diesel effect), it can also hapen that the air is inside the plastic part (in germany we call it lunker) and the stability of the part could take a negative effect. I hope you understand what i mean ;) Greeting Dominic
@Killernova86
@Killernova86 6 жыл бұрын
Never apologise for using metric ;)
@timothycoley997
@timothycoley997 6 жыл бұрын
Moldmaker Apprentice checking in: As soon as i saw the solid model, I thought "What? No venting?!" 0 .0002" (around 4-5 microns if my mental math is correct) would be enough to vent even the most flash-prone materials.
@philiprogers5772
@philiprogers5772 6 жыл бұрын
I had this problem with my mold, when the plastic was injected the mold was forced apart very slightly.
@noelbressan8097
@noelbressan8097 6 жыл бұрын
I'm also from Germany, I used to machine injection molds and seeing you touch off on the outside edges gave me slight anxiety. You always want to set the offset on the most critical feature that is already machined and in this case that would be the guide bushings. We had some mold bodies that were up to .5mm off on the outside! that can really screw your injector set when you try to eject and it all seizes up. Seems like it turned out fine in your case, just wasn't the best practice.
@anderskarlsson9881
@anderskarlsson9881 6 жыл бұрын
@@noelbressan8097 At 12:30 you can see that he actually clocked in the guide bushings. But the outside is just rough and not made to tolerance. Always clock two holes to make sure everything is square.
@aarondcmedia9585
@aarondcmedia9585 6 жыл бұрын
Chapeau to you and your video editor. Slide out masks for in-place end mill descriptions, 3D endmill destination graphics, F360 flybys. Icing on the cake of a video that for me had spot on pacing and audio, not to mention clear and relaxed voice-over. Delegating WW to others has been a good example of "work on your business, not in it", too. Your content is outstanding and I appreciate it tremendously. Thanks!
@sam29-i3o
@sam29-i3o 6 жыл бұрын
Hey John. I clicked so fast on this, I'm a toolmaker so I machine tools every day. A tip for you; with these pre machined plates with the bores in the corners I always clock the back right bore and then clock the front left and split the difference. Works perfect every time
@c6quad3
@c6quad3 6 жыл бұрын
I've been a subscriber since your days of having the desktop machine in your apartment. It's amazing how far you've taken things since those days. Congrats on all of your success! You've earned it and are living proof that people can succeed when they put in the effort!!
@paulwen1533
@paulwen1533 6 жыл бұрын
I am an injection molding manufacturer from China. It's very inspiring to watch your video.
@MOREENGINEERING
@MOREENGINEERING 5 жыл бұрын
Great Vid John. This bought back the good old days. I spent 4 years working for a company(in Australia) that made moulds for Tupperware. Back then we began using Devleig point to point Horizontal machining centres. the company advanced into Makino VMC machine (at a time when Makino was renowned for Engine lathes and Tool and Cutter grinders). We had a huge EDM department and a growing CNC Milling and Lathe section. We used to grind our own "D bits" for the engraving work. This bought back some great memories Thanks John.
@darrylanton9323
@darrylanton9323 5 жыл бұрын
Good job, I'm a 35yr molding veteran, a process tech engineer, you did a great job with this video, much success with your operation!
@13anomalous16
@13anomalous16 5 жыл бұрын
I love this so much, I've seen this video in the past, but didn't understand all the concepts that were being talked about then. But now I'm watching again while attending a Machine Shop Basics class at St. Philips in San Antonio and I can already understand so much more about whats going on. Then watching this just makes me eager and excited to learn how to operate CNC machines when that class comes up.
@douro20
@douro20 6 жыл бұрын
Kitamura BridgeCenters are very nice for this type of work. Extraordinarily rigid machines with box-way table and slanted column bridge. They have absolute accuracy of 2 micron across the entire bed length and repeatability of 1 micron.
@Vodichka9
@Vodichka9 5 жыл бұрын
@@FluxApexEng Chip mfrs don't use VMCs. No comparison between milling machines and microchip manufacture.
@StReeTz166
@StReeTz166 6 жыл бұрын
2:48 I believe the VM actually has a lower pitch ball screw; 6mm if I recall correctly. The VF2-SS has 12mm for those crazy speeds. Great video!
@949Designs
@949Designs 6 жыл бұрын
I’m not one to swear in public, but I’m going to go out of my comfort zone and just say...you F’ing amaze me. I’ve been watching your videos for years, however, I don’t comment often. From hobbyist, to full blown machinist/magician. As a hobbyist manufacturer, I love the way you explain the processing, and the video is outstanding. Thank you for sharing this process, as it’s something I’ve often thought of getting involved in. This, and vacuum forming.
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
THANK you! Appreciate it :) And I love that I get to do what I do :)
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
P.S. watch your language :) :) :)
@davidsomething4867
@davidsomething4867 5 жыл бұрын
I worked in a tool making shop 18 years ago with an in house mould shop as a semi-skilled engineer. We did not have any CNC machines and relied on Lathes, Milling Machines, Grinding (Surface and Cylindrical) and Spark Eroders (those were interesting). We made some real complex mould tools with the machines we had.
@dziggy3004
@dziggy3004 Жыл бұрын
As a kid, I worked at Hansen Ski as an injection mold operator. Used to have to jump inside the 2' to 3' molds (when open) to remove the ski boots! For some reason a crescent wrench was involved in the process (don't remember why...), but I remember leaving the wrench on top the then $40K-molds and when the machine cycled, the wrench fell inside the extraction plate mechanism and bent stuff up pretty bad... I don't think I lasted long after that!!! I really wanted to get into programming the many types of injection machines they had!
@inthegarage342
@inthegarage342 4 жыл бұрын
As a injection molding technician/mechanic, it was neat to see how a mold is made. Nice work.
@Slayer553826
@Slayer553826 6 жыл бұрын
Hey John, Have you ever measured tool runout before and after a cut with your tap method? I would image if the tool is able to be moved around inside the collet from a dead blow that the cutting forces would be more than enough to move it even more!
@Jehty_
@Jehty_ 6 жыл бұрын
The tool rotates while it cuts. So theoretically it would be like tapping hundreds or thousands of times on all sides of the tools. So theoretically it still should be centered.
@gunnathurdy8269
@gunnathurdy8269 3 жыл бұрын
My names not John but from my experience once you get the tool indicated in, it will repeat pretty well. All of your force is in the z axis, not x or y.
@TheZoraccer
@TheZoraccer 6 жыл бұрын
Great job guys! Wathching your channel and every video with a great pleasure, always find something new and usefull. A little tip for future moldmaking - not all mold base blocks have "base" side surfaces, for example Fodesco blocks (which are great, cheap and popular in Europe) have not parallel, not orthogonal and not even straight side surfaces. But! holes for guiding elements are excellent, orthogonal to plates face and bottom, and extremly precise in size and shape. It is a good practise to set up all the plates (excluding ejector plates, in which guiding holes are made "in situ") using that holes. Look at "meusburger h1000" set up system, it is a great example of mold clamping system, handy, precise and easy to use.. or to copy :) We are using similar system for over 5 years of everyday moldmaking job. Also great when it comes to machining plates on mill, then on EDM - helpls not to loose or mix up that microns, that really matter. P.s. sorry for the English, Russian is my native.
@xyzzyx7669
@xyzzyx7669 6 жыл бұрын
Can you recommend some books about molds (making, maintenance, repair, welding, polishing), in Russian?
@tylergibb799
@tylergibb799 6 жыл бұрын
You should always chamfer NPT holes before you tap/thread them. That way you don't roll a burr into the part that prevents good sealing.
@northernsmith
@northernsmith 6 жыл бұрын
tyler gibb it’s good practice on any threaded hole. 😄
@Iceberg86300
@Iceberg86300 6 жыл бұрын
@@northernsmith it's been my experience that every shop adds a chamfer to tapped holes when there isn't a call out. This can be problematic in certain situations. For example, when using shoulder bolts in said holes. I was bitten by that one during an internship where they actually used my designs in production. Technically, it also bit my mentors/bosses as they checked the drawings (and designs). This was very low run production tooling with ~32 holes across four parts so a "do not chamfer" call-out was in order. If it was a very long production run/something getting a ton of shoulder bolts then adding a chamfer with a +.0000/-.0010 tolerance _might_ increase tap life enough to lower part cost.
@occamssawzall3486
@occamssawzall3486 6 жыл бұрын
Not an issue with a thread mill in my experience. Worst case you just use the thread mill to do a level pass at the top.
@highstreetkillers4377
@highstreetkillers4377 6 жыл бұрын
It is good practice to chamfer first. But I make 1000s of NPT holes in a year and sometimes impossible to chamfer, you don't even need too. Chamfer doesn't affect the seal at all. Best way to do NPT holes is to treadmill them. That way mold maker puts a tiny bit of Teflon tape and the plugs will stop all in the exact same spot perfectly sealed. I also usually gun drill all waterlines when possible and a gun drill doesn't make a burr. This is such tiny mold, molds I make have 500 to 2000 waterlines crisscrossing through it. Only time you need a chamfer is on the bottom of the mold so the plates sit flat against the mold
@bigrick7108
@bigrick7108 4 жыл бұрын
@@highstreetkillers4377 NPT plugs suck. I switched to port plugs a long time ago. No leaks and straight threads. Also easy to remove for maintenance. I Use them whenever possible.
@intjonmiller
@intjonmiller 5 жыл бұрын
You know what's weird? Being a "Jonathan" in Utah and watching this when John says he's sending it to Jonathan in Utah. Obviously there are a few of us here, but it still creates a very brief and very odd moment of confusion.
@FletcherHillier
@FletcherHillier 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe all of the Jonathan's in Utah are getting one
@truepointblank1591
@truepointblank1591 4 жыл бұрын
How do you prevent the part from shrinking after molding. Or do you compensate by oversizeing it on the mold.
@rosengrantchris
@rosengrantchris 6 жыл бұрын
Any reason to indicate in the shank of small end mills rather than the flutes? I don't have a lot of experience with setting them up but I do hear that the flutes can be ground .0004" or more off center from the shank.
@ronohaver5142
@ronohaver5142 4 жыл бұрын
Reamers can be stepped on a reamer/endmill rotary collet indexer, purpose is to cut out stock undersize in hole then the rest of the reamer finishes to size, standard practice in hole reaming, sneek up on it. Better hole finishes and tighter tolerances. Always ease a holes beginning with a lead, small chamfer if possible. Better with steeper angle, 60
@ronohaver5142
@ronohaver5142 4 жыл бұрын
DME good way to go, mold base then A and B plate, ejector plate, ejector pins just right to eject the parts and the runners just the right length, lot of work lot of time. important to get the pins and bushings perfect, Spent 20 years designing with cad/cam making drawings and machining injection molds ordered lots of stuff from DME, pins, bushings, ejector pins, springs and plates.
@zawilious
@zawilious 2 жыл бұрын
We used to use an EDM machine to make those tiny holes leading to the cavity , since you can make an electrode that can be held with 90degree extensions, it's much easier than using 5axis mill
@davidcollier6180
@davidcollier6180 6 жыл бұрын
Nice to see someone else make and explain a mould I work for a company that makes mould tools as big as 64 imp razors it will mould 32 plastic handles and then spin 180 and mould the rubber grip on the handle it just moulded most off cavity we do are edm sparked and hard milled nice to see one fully milled great video 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@ericschreiber1847
@ericschreiber1847 6 жыл бұрын
I found this video very satisfying to watch! I worked for an injection molding company at my previous job and we had small basic tools like this to large complex tools for automotive parts. Keep up the good work John!
@etminan233
@etminan233 4 жыл бұрын
Which machine is used to make molds
@koaasst
@koaasst 6 жыл бұрын
i built my own cnc 10 years ago and software was so cost prohibitive my machine sat in the garage as a table since. i used google sketchup to draw, then cambam to set the cutter paths, then emc2 on an ubuntu install. it was all free, so i got to make basic stuff, but today maybe the landscape has changed? i will have to look into it again.
@paulkennedy5953
@paulkennedy5953 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative tutorial video, I'm a plastics engineer/mould maker, an excellent example of injection mould manufacture. If we can do this, we can do almost anything. But it is intricate, takes more skill and knowledge....👍👍
@walkercameron8196
@walkercameron8196 6 жыл бұрын
machining the core and cavity into the mold plate if not the best way to go. i work on high volume molds, 64 cavity and above, the core and cavity are always separate parts from the plate. when you mentioned having to drill long holes for the coolant lines that would work in a small mold like this, but for large molds the coolant lines would need to be gun drilled with a 32in carbide tipped drill.
@xyzzyx7669
@xyzzyx7669 6 жыл бұрын
Yes. Making cavity/core inserts is a next step in making this mold a real mold. So he can run similar sized products or different version of current design.
@ronohaver5142
@ronohaver5142 4 жыл бұрын
Good way of making sure you can relocate a mold plate lite cut on front for square on x axes then any where on center line on plate drill hole ream and burnish hole at 1/4 or more depth, you can come back latter if need be to run your indicator along x axes and sweep hole for picking up location even repairs years later just put your info in the drawing. Also its called a subgate that special hole that the plastic flows into for filling the part, it needs to be just right so you can separate the part from the runner.
@highstreetkillers4377
@highstreetkillers4377 6 жыл бұрын
As someone that has 10 years experience machining molds for car bumpers, dashboards, and other huge molds, this is funny to watch. I'd love to show you videos but I would get in trouble. I did the 3d finishing on a machine where the spindle is on a Sine plate. Put the cutting tool on a compound angle, make a program, then pick out corners with a 1mm ball for weeks. I'm more on the boring mill and 6 axis gundrill/mill these days luckily. You should try putting in 2" lifter rod holes on a compound angle 1 meter deep. lol. Even worse is 3 mm ejector pins 1500mm deep with 5 mm clearance 1450 mm deep. That mold has no lifters, inserts, or slides. lol. That's a cake walk man. You didn't even make the ejector box or plates, lol. Waterlines? lol. The one 30 ton Cavity I make has like 800 Waterlines through it with a helluva a lot of intersections. Now that's a stressful puzzle. Luckily I've got the 6 axis machine, cause before I'd put that 30 ton cavity on a sine plate on the boring mill and some setups I have to tilt the sign plate 43.473 degrees and then turn the table 46.238 degrees. That setup with lifting the sine plate on with the crane and block, start until cutting. Takes me 1.5 hours. KZbin machinists kill me struggled with setups in a vise out by 0.001". lol. I indicate 50 ton molds straight on my machine everyday, 0 - 0, and that's over 3 meters. Sometimes I use a 9/16" drill thats 700 mm long and drill on a compound angle through 11 intersections 650mm deep. Just makes me laugh watching someone struggle on a small simple mold like this. lol. No offence, practice makes perfect
@skizzik121
@skizzik121 5 жыл бұрын
HEY! this is what i do for 40 hours a week! make molds for multiple processes. injection roto and blow
@michealdumasii5432
@michealdumasii5432 5 жыл бұрын
@Fernandes assembling as putting together or machining the moulds?
@michealdumasii5432
@michealdumasii5432 5 жыл бұрын
Is your company located near Texas? And what is the turnover time of production?
@animatrix1851
@animatrix1851 5 жыл бұрын
twoset?
@masonfeyz867
@masonfeyz867 4 жыл бұрын
skizzik121 Hi, can I get you contact info, I am designer and would like to order a mold
@movingforward.
@movingforward. 4 жыл бұрын
Florida moldmaker
@sarveshmestry7501
@sarveshmestry7501 3 жыл бұрын
Want to ask you how much gap is kept for air escape from cavity as plastic gets injected in it
@GBWM_CNC
@GBWM_CNC 2 жыл бұрын
I'm always excited when I'm watching your videos. Great job!
@Reely98
@Reely98 6 жыл бұрын
toolmaking is the king class in metalworking. so much to worry about and so much tolerances. Im working in a small company, we make mold for duroplast type plastics. makes it even more difficult to design and run
@xyzzyx7669
@xyzzyx7669 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, no sissies there, straight real work.
@lakerfan82k3
@lakerfan82k3 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen a thread mill program start at hole depth and work it’s way out. Any reason behind doing it this way?
@OMY005
@OMY005 6 жыл бұрын
I always disable my unused rotary axis when holding a part that cannot be rotated, very easy to do on the Haas. That way you can never accidentally move it by jogging, or if programmed it will alarm out.
@1000crazypeople
@1000crazypeople 6 жыл бұрын
I work at an injection molding company. It's so nice to see someone else do the work
@gilmarcadcam
@gilmarcadcam 6 жыл бұрын
It´s a really exciting field, and I forecast words like: EDM/Wire EDM, Electrodes, Spot drilling/Center Drilling, Reaming/Honing, Wire EDM, Hard inserts, graphite, S7, H13, Venting, hand grinding, Mold flow analysis, Hot sprue bushing, Hot runners, support pillars, locating rings, return pins, ejector pins/plate/sleeves, Angular pins, sliders, parting lines, shut-offs, etc.. will be appearing more often in your videos!
@SaschasLWA
@SaschasLWA 6 жыл бұрын
@NYC CNC Wow that's great, congratulations to another big step on this channel! Please, please, please add a list how you would quote this mold, spindle time, time for the CAD files, maybe even the time you spent reading all about injection molds etc. Thank you!!!
@Lillebroor
@Lillebroor 6 жыл бұрын
I used to work as a machinist and I made tools for injection moulding. Nice with a trip down memory lane =) Edit - that made me sound old as f*ck 😁10 years since i quit as a machinist. Now I´m back at school to become an mechanical engineer.
@astbrnrd
@astbrnrd 5 жыл бұрын
Did you ever try to use a camera that you can remove the ir filter (an expendable usb camera) more than likely it will "see thru" the opacity of the coolant, but it becomes little difference between looking thru a window on the rain or the spinner windows, but might yield better results.
@MrGodzilla2016
@MrGodzilla2016 6 жыл бұрын
Hello i just wanted to say I think its awesome you used a DME product for this. I actually work for Milacron and Machine parts for mold units and frames for DME and Mud products.
@KamiCrit
@KamiCrit 6 жыл бұрын
Pro tip about the torque wrench at 13:45 Install the accessory at 90* to then handle rather than parallel. With the accessory straight, you are extending the torque measuring length. If you did the math already for the compensation then by all means, keep on going to the moon.
@DRrandomman22
@DRrandomman22 6 жыл бұрын
Dude mold and die bases that are pre made are awsome they take up most of the grunt work and all you got to do is machining the cavities or the die steels and your up and running
@DRrandomman22
@DRrandomman22 6 жыл бұрын
@steve gale idk sometimes depending on where you go the cost of material and labor the bases end up being cheaper then making them in house also make sure the shit is made in America or anywhere other than china we bought a complete progression die from china once never again spent more money on getting it to run good parts then the cost of the die at the end.
@ostry599
@ostry599 6 жыл бұрын
Did u base part on corners or on holes? U should set base on center by setting center on every 4 holes. Sory for my bad english.
@Zokom_Bralin
@Zokom_Bralin 4 ай бұрын
Can i ask, what the name of software you use to make the machine program?
@tylerjones6043
@tylerjones6043 5 жыл бұрын
Have to watch leaving sharp corners when making runners. It can create turbulence and make the plastic flow very strange as well, in turn bad parts. Also the hot runner or heating rods paired with a very accurate thermocouple play a crucial role as well.
@t.d.mich.7064
@t.d.mich.7064 3 жыл бұрын
You really should ream all ejector pin holes and core pin holes from the back of the mold base. You will get a small amount of bellmouthing by reaming from the parting line side. That results in a small flash around the pin hole. Good stuff!
@julianweiser9985
@julianweiser9985 Жыл бұрын
Since the cooling holes dont require much positioning accuracy, 1 stop could have been used for the x axis. Why not 4 cavities tho?
@SergejKolmogorov
@SergejKolmogorov 6 жыл бұрын
Nice work! Why you don't mashine some precise vice to hold the tool centered if you push it in a collet, so you don't need correct it after fixing?
@ipadize
@ipadize 6 жыл бұрын
5:16 actually you touch off the plate by first getting the rotation from two holes and then touch off all 4 holes to get the exact center because if you want to change something in the contour later you may not get the exact same center if you touch off from the outside walls (which are not precise)
@biged4485
@biged4485 5 жыл бұрын
incorrect. So many reasons to not go off the leader pin holes: 1. The leader pin holes are not made to be used as datums. The plates are assembled then the outsides are machined so they match with the leader pins in them. 2. the hole on the operator corner is offset - so if you pick the wrong two holes to measure off of your datum will be incorrectly shifted. 3. sweeping holes is much slower than beeping the outside of the plate. 4.Larger plates do grow and shrink substantially with the heat from machining, switching coolant on and off, and room temperature - so the leader pin hole locations will move from heating and cooling, while the center of the plate will always be the center of the plate no matter what temperature.
@danand6907
@danand6907 4 жыл бұрын
Ive reamed holes for ejector pin holes with a dewalt drill. Never had problems with material flashing.
@keithtam8859
@keithtam8859 4 жыл бұрын
very cool vid. ok, question, can anybody tell me how did people make the injection mold accurately in the old days, like 50s or before, when there was no computer or CAD CAM?? thank you and look forwards for any answers!!
@taylor_imaging
@taylor_imaging 6 жыл бұрын
I used to run and tend 8 molding machines. I would go to the tool making side all the time when I could and watch.
@RVBlueZone
@RVBlueZone 6 жыл бұрын
Molds are indeed a very intense assembly to get right...looks awesome...I have a business partner specializes in large die assemblies and valves and with some completed assemblies in the 65+ ton range they are simply staggering to behold...All Doosan 130xx type of stuff. Keep up the great work!
@firehawkdelta
@firehawkdelta 6 жыл бұрын
So, one question: the way the cavities are connected below the surface of the mold (the "submarine holes," IIRC), it seems like the sprue connecting the center channel to the outer cavities will have to be cut when the ejector pins actuate -- otherwise the center sprue and the plugs would still be connected post-ejection, and the video evidence appears otherwise. Is that correct? If so, how could you be confident (in the design stage, b/c obviously this works in production) that that will work properly, and not leave debris caught in the "submarine holes" that might damage the next injection?
@occamssawzall3486
@occamssawzall3486 6 жыл бұрын
firehawkdelta it gets pulled out of the tunnels when the sprue is ejected. It’s possible for it to get stuck, but if designed right it’s pretty rare.
@leimeralithium6686
@leimeralithium6686 4 жыл бұрын
question?why did you make it only 2 cavity?it looks like the size of the mould base can make atleast 8 cavities.maximize the mould base size.cycle time is the same but production rate is 4x faster.
@Skydiverjoe2871
@Skydiverjoe2871 6 жыл бұрын
I don't remember seeing one, but you should go over how your shop tools have been holding up, like the Arduino curtain opener you did a while back
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
ARSE door doing great. The height-adjusting iPad - not so well.
@Skydiverjoe2871
@Skydiverjoe2871 6 жыл бұрын
NYC CNC Great to hear that. It would be cool video to make at some point. I know you are probably real though
@edsnyder1677
@edsnyder1677 6 жыл бұрын
Why only 2 finished parts for cycle? Wouldn't 6 or 8 better utilize the injection molder.
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
Rookie numbers. Needs to be at least 30. Joking side, 1) shot size limit in machine, 2) increased mold complexity 3) the price and this solution WORK!
@SpaceBuckaroo
@SpaceBuckaroo 6 жыл бұрын
@@nyccnc That was the first thing I noticed was why only 2 parts. They are using up more material in the sprue than the part. The machine time is being wasted with only 2 parts per cycle.
@rosengrantchris
@rosengrantchris 6 жыл бұрын
​@@SpaceBuckaroo Probably a investment vs income argument. They might only need to make 10,000 in a month and the investment into a more complex molding wouldn't be worth it for that throughput. It might also be that the machine the customer plans to use cannot handle the amount of plastic needed to fill the mold. Plastic molding is a complex process and one thing you need to worry about is being able to fill the mold before the plastic cools enough to become solid. I'm not super proficient with plastic molding but that's what NYC CNC probably means by shot size limit. Since the part is something they don't need a lot of they can probably charge a little more per part to offset the extra material used. This might seem stupid but in the end a plastic injected part is still going to be darn cheep even if it's not the "optimum" throughput and efficiency you could use to make the part. Also, plastic can be recycled in house to certain extents to reduce the overall wasted material. This is why you still see small machines being used in all trades. Sure you can get the biggest baddest thing around to remove/add umpteen tons of material a day. But if you only need to make 100 small parts every week then what's the point?
@occamssawzall3486
@occamssawzall3486 6 жыл бұрын
Fewer chances of messing it up... and room for mistakes
@user-qx7tm5df8j
@user-qx7tm5df8j 6 жыл бұрын
plenty of reasons why 2 is better in this case
@joshkretchmar3878
@joshkretchmar3878 2 жыл бұрын
Have you guys ever used edm machines to make cavaties?
@isaacvargasnina
@isaacvargasnina 3 жыл бұрын
friend any practical course to machining moulds ? please please
@hansdietrich83
@hansdietrich83 6 жыл бұрын
If tapping the tool with a screwdriver can affect runout this "much", what can the actual mashining with all the vibrations and horizontal load do to the acuracy? Would be interesting to measure the runout before and after a long mashining session
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
We've asked this same question - the few times we've measured *after* the cut, the tool runout remained unchanged!
@northernsmith
@northernsmith 6 жыл бұрын
hansdietrich83 the loading on a small end mill like that is super small. If you look at them funny they break. It’s more seating the collet in the holder when he taps on it.
@tedsaylor6016
@tedsaylor6016 6 жыл бұрын
I would think the high RPM would tend to "center" the tool, only if you bumped into the part while not turning would the runout worsen.
@TheTurboman2
@TheTurboman2 6 жыл бұрын
Just a bit curious why the rate of injection is so slow. Did you slow the injector down so we could see what was happening? If this is the rate of injection for a two cavity mold, I can't see the economy of such slow production output.
@bitsurfer0101
@bitsurfer0101 6 жыл бұрын
What was the reason for having the gate hidden? Could it not have been on the surface? How did you align the ejector pins? Did you use transfer punches or some other method?
@mattmanmcfee36
@mattmanmcfee36 6 жыл бұрын
I work in injection molding and tooling, sub gates like this are used so when the part ejects from the mold it automatically separates itself from the sprue, as well as leaving a cleaner finish than cutting the gate by hand. there are many different gate styles depending on part shape, plastic type, and a whole range of factors
@scienceandtechnologyst8134
@scienceandtechnologyst8134 3 жыл бұрын
How can I make texture in my mold like rough surface I don't want mirror finish in my mold I want textured mold how can I achive it help
@FSMOLD
@FSMOLD 5 жыл бұрын
I really like your machining the mold so logically. As more than ten years mold designer's advice, you should eliminate the second mold plate, then make the inserts in Top plate and make another block to fix them. it will decrease the sprue length, and save the material.
@dziggy3004
@dziggy3004 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't the waste material get reground/reused?
@சபரிபிரபாகர்தமிழ்3535
@சபரிபிரபாகர்தமிழ்3535 5 жыл бұрын
Please make video about how to make thread mill programs....
@TheDeerInn
@TheDeerInn 4 жыл бұрын
On a die this small do you have to have the surface perfectly flat or a micro concave or convex to allow for part expansion and deformation? Or does the cooling keep any movement from happening? We have a 2000 lb die for our product, but I have always been curious as to the actual tolerances.
@xaytana
@xaytana 6 жыл бұрын
What would the price difference be between the premade plates and machining your own plates?
@MotorsportsX
@MotorsportsX 6 жыл бұрын
I make my own small bases. It cost right about the same amount, but im paying my guys, and not DME. Some times if I want something special its cheaper to make my own plates. of course we are talking true "cost." its no where close to what my billable rate charge would be, so if I have other things to do, I just buy the base.
@MotorsportsX
@MotorsportsX 6 жыл бұрын
Also, John you should get you a Gate mate or a DMax. the sprue is massive for that part.
@theenchiladakid1866
@theenchiladakid1866 4 жыл бұрын
How do lego get such sharp corners on there blocks? In the in sides of of models must be just sharps but i cant think of a tool that could do it
@glenncirello4085
@glenncirello4085 4 жыл бұрын
You can put a broach in the middle
@SohaibBeddi
@SohaibBeddi 5 жыл бұрын
what do you recommend to get as a 5 axis cnc machine for a beginner who want to get his hands in to mold manufacturing who already Works on 3 axis cnc machines plz help
@walkercameron8196
@walkercameron8196 5 жыл бұрын
can we get an update on the injection mold, like is it still running, have to do any pm on it
@thorrider34
@thorrider34 6 жыл бұрын
Are them for love Joy's? We needed one for the pump on are cnc but couldn't find one the right size.
@ricardomolina8773
@ricardomolina8773 4 жыл бұрын
Does it have a fluctuating sensor calibrate or
@hutchdw77
@hutchdw77 6 жыл бұрын
It’s very satisfying to see the needle on the dial indicator NOT move.
@Pieh0
@Pieh0 4 жыл бұрын
15:08 That coolant line isn't going to do much good with a leak in it. Will be interesting to see how you fixed that. I'm guessing a weld.
@SamCyanide
@SamCyanide 4 ай бұрын
Does this Jonathan guy have any videos on KZbin or anything teaching injection molding like you said? I have the CNC machine and want to make some molds, I've been looking at getting an arburg press used but I need to do more research on the process before I decide if I want to get one and what I need
@AkiRie-bi3ek
@AkiRie-bi3ek 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is a stupid question (sorry hah) but Is it necesary to be a engineer to get to work with machines like this? Or with being a mechanic (a really good one, of course) is enough?
@claudiugalea3038
@claudiugalea3038 4 жыл бұрын
how do yo know how much torque to apply when tightening the vise?
@nwodochigozie1679
@nwodochigozie1679 Жыл бұрын
Good day to you and thanks for the wonderful job you guys are doing. Please I need a mold and i wonder if we can talk
@Gameomg
@Gameomg 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I work with injection molding and I find it very interesting how you create this mold as I've been deconstructing and servicing molds in the past as well.
@rupert5390
@rupert5390 5 жыл бұрын
Hey does NYCNC actually make anything as, you know, work output of the workshop - you visit a loy of machine shops but do you guys actually make anything for industry or are you just a U/tube machinist infotainment type setup like Diresta.
@Strothy2
@Strothy2 6 жыл бұрын
yeah once you start introducing undercuts it really gets nasty we had some mold that took 2 months to finish, the finished product was the body of a vacuum cleaner, blueing this thing in was a nightmare... also well done!
@occamssawzall3486
@occamssawzall3486 6 жыл бұрын
Strothy2 Last mold we did in-house had 106 shut offs, and 12 side actions...
@Strothy2
@Strothy2 6 жыл бұрын
@@occamssawzall3486 Nightmare stuff...
@davidwrighton3914
@davidwrighton3914 5 жыл бұрын
At first I thought the video was about plastic injection mould tools----turned out to be an advert for cnc machine tools... love the way that he tapped the plate with his knuckles at 13 minutes to make sure it was tight ---ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ----I could have done everything on a manual bridgeport
@zackmacfarlane5533
@zackmacfarlane5533 5 жыл бұрын
Bit late, but are you saying that McMaster's cobalt line of drill is PTD?
@AlecSteele
@AlecSteele 6 жыл бұрын
This is awesome!
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@the4hunters
@the4hunters 4 жыл бұрын
How high of a mold carving resolution can you guys get from your best machine? I'm thinking of getting some injection molds made
@roshin1000
@roshin1000 4 жыл бұрын
Is this mold base size is a over kill?
@chandamamachandamama9792
@chandamamachandamama9792 4 жыл бұрын
International shipping available?
@geralldus
@geralldus 4 жыл бұрын
Having not been near a machine shop for fifty years this is truly incredible.
@brianbailiff9668
@brianbailiff9668 5 жыл бұрын
Really cool video my family job shop is looking into getting a trunnion for our Haas vf6 and vf3
@d.endxtattoo
@d.endxtattoo 4 жыл бұрын
How much for a mold? I have step and stl files.
@Iceberg86300
@Iceberg86300 6 жыл бұрын
*_Ballscrews_* on VM's have a *_lower_* pitch, not higher.
@nyccnc
@nyccnc 6 жыл бұрын
Yea, epic fail on my part there.
@Iceberg86300
@Iceberg86300 6 жыл бұрын
@@nyccnc we all make mistakes!! All around great video though!
@occamssawzall3486
@occamssawzall3486 6 жыл бұрын
NYC CNC Higher Helix angle, lower pitch. Higher pitch, lower helix angle.
@Iceberg86300
@Iceberg86300 6 жыл бұрын
@@occamssawzall3486 that's a stretch. 100% correct. But a stretch. LOL. I'm glad he owned it. Just like every other mistake he makes. Helps everyone watching learn.
@clayz1
@clayz1 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe you meant more TPI? Just trying to help. Of course the ballscrews are metric, so it doesn’t help after all.
@alexwang007
@alexwang007 6 жыл бұрын
Recently I have been thinking about machining a press mould for plastic optics, and they are precison optics with polished optical finishes! Can anyone point me to the right direction please? Our school does not have five axis milling machines, and has pretty much anything below that.
@uripomerantz6858
@uripomerantz6858 6 жыл бұрын
Polishing a mold cavity for a bright finish is one thing but real optical components require very high precision, done with diamond turning typically by specialized vendors. Also, the material will not be ordinary clear resin but a special optical resin which is harder to hendle. That's not to say nothing can be acheived with regular mold making practices but don't expect to get a professional optical component easily. Best luck
@alexwang007
@alexwang007 6 жыл бұрын
@@uripomerantz6858 Thank you so much, i for sure need to throw in more real effort into researching, but your direction is priceless. i will talk to my machinist and see if he is kinda enough to give me further help. IEEE and OSA are probably places i should start from.
@Igor-bm6gj
@Igor-bm6gj 5 жыл бұрын
What bit did you guys use for the small logo on the mold? I feel like you guys covered every bit except that one. Thanks.
@Qui_Gon_Ben
@Qui_Gon_Ben 5 жыл бұрын
Do you not have to spot before using those drills?
@AJvsEverything
@AJvsEverything 6 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you built the cavity right into the base plate in the ejection side of the die, we always used to make inserts for both sides to increase longevity and so that they're easily replaced if/when they get damaged...
@AJvsEverything
@AJvsEverything 6 жыл бұрын
Also, an easier and more accurate way to cut your tunnel gate (the angled tapered hole where the plastic flows into the part) is to set the plate up on an angle plate on a manual mill and use a 7 degree single flute cutter and a set of gage pins to make the orifice the correct size on both sides...the general rule of thumb for most plastics is the orifice diameter should be 70% of the average part thickness (ie: If your part is on average .100" thick, your orifice should be .070" in diameter)...set a hard stop on the quill, gently peck drill the hole until you break through moving the knee up .001" at a time until the desired pin diameter goes through the orifice, then flip the plate 180 degrees and do the other side...
@xyzzyx7669
@xyzzyx7669 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for advice. But do you realise, that this is very basic mold? So he doesn't need to make it more complicated.
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