Customer Called For Me to Light His Pilot…He Don’t Have a Pilot.

[@kens.3729]

GOD Bless our Seniors that Struggle in Life. You Never know what kind of turn it’s going to take. We’re really pleased you assisted this Customer. 😬👍🙏

[@dangerhellbender3245]

I joined the elder guy, whom I could not understand, in thinking is it going to be $50 or $500?😊

[@austincowan9235]

Service call for sling blade is what it sounds like🤣

[@benerling1657]

Billy Bob Thornton

[@kantpicnomor]

Was his name Carl?....😅

[@astateato]

I can't fix anything, but love watching you fix everything! :)

[@HVACGUY]

Thanks

[@deanmartin1966]

Curtis did you notice the green LED went out when you moved the thermostat wire? I thought the solid green and solid red meant it was in standby mode and there was no call for heat. Perhaps a loose thermostat wire? The green led did come back on, but I did notice when you moved the wire, it flickered off. It happened when you touched the blue thermostat wire. Good video.

[@maintenanceman1015]

At 4:50

[@deanmartin1966]

@@maintenanceman1015 Yes sir. That’s the spot. Lol

[@mos8541]

THERES ONLY 3 SECONDS LEFT... CUT THE RED WIRE!.. wait.. i mean blu blue! cut ohhh

[@dashcamandy2242]

@@deanmartin1966 Also around the 10:00 mark.

[@deanmartin1966]

@@dashcamandy2242 I missed that one

[@Justinstratton11]

One way you can prove this, and don’t do it if you’re not comfortable, it take your meter leads and use a jump across them bridging them. Put one lead on 24 and one lead on the green to prove that board is bad and the blower is also good. This has saved me many times.

[@mos8541]

LOL you hvac bros doin all the lec trick ull type stuff, talkin bout leads and blows... SFMF

[@force311999]

if the motor board is not suppose to have 24 v you would fry the other board so he has to research it first

[@kens.3729]

To Be Continued. Stay Tuned for the Next Episode. Same Bat Time, Same Bat Channel. 😬👍🙏

[@robalexander7348]

Thanks Curtis,we look forward to knowing where the problem lies, and the final solution 👍

[@HVACGUY]

You bet

[@donnellbaxter8050]

Good job I never worked on one before thanks.

[@sergioblanco4504]

Keep us posted on what you found! Great video…

[@carllungwitz5171]

Nice work Curtis! Anxious to know what you find out.

[@jamesfitzsimmons381]

Glad you’re going to check manual. That hot water heater looks like it’s has had roll-out. Discolored around the burner opening

[@throttlebottle5906]

that's pretty common on older units, especially when the inner metal shield isn't put back on right after lighting the pilot. look on top the tank around the draft hood for signs of spill out, they'll darken the top of tank, melt the plastic bushings around the water nipples and corrode them too. I've seen many tanks over the last 30 years of working for slumlords and remodeling. many I have shut down and or called the gas company and fire department to shut them down, because they were dumping CO into the homes! I don't mess around when there's potential to harm or kill people!

[@jamesfitzsimmons381]

@@throttlebottle5906 hard to get a real good view of the plastic rings around the pipe still think it would be a good idea to check the tank flue passage / and the draft plus the stainless cover for proper placement. I don’t disagree you at all. Except in the years seen that brown discoloration of poorly vented HwH. And you’re correct about the melting plastic. Seen that a lot on downdrafting

[@poiklntg]

When you said the furnace is old I was like no it isn't. Then you realized right after and I laughed

[@orionwarren4244]

You almost feel like telling some customers "Don't f%&k with it but..." You just nod and smile. And know you'll be back undoing whatever they did down the road. Job security, baby! LoL

[@Falcon-eh8tq]

You can make your own EC motor tester if you snag a used plug, or if you have good dexterity.. I used to rig up 120V line and 24V communication Then once i got some plugs i made a ec tester kit with multiple plugs. Most have 2 pins 120V and the rest are speed 24V and a GRND. I use the same kit for bryant, carrier, napoleon, and ICP Nowadays i usually see the ec motor board inside the motor lol. Nice vid Wolf Steel furnaces will run blower continuously on high without any communication voltage. Some other make do the same, if you pull communication wires and the blower turns on it could be the control board.

[@bobboscarato1313]

Curtis make sure you tape that wiring diagram with the codes!

[@dashcamandy2242]

That is one CLEAN van in your intro! I don't see a single spot of Chrysler Cancer, and I'm kinda jealous. 10:46 - I dang near jumped out of my skin!

[@Knight805]

I have found matches around an HSI before. 😂

[@throttlebottle5906]

I have seen people hand light them when ignitor is bad, heck I've done it myself before, using a "torch though", to get a few run cycles of heat into a home. of course that means sitting there baby-sitting it, but it's not bad when there's good airflow and it doesn't hit high limit. it can run for an hour or more heating a cold home.

[@Eddy63]

Good vid as usual ... Keep us posted ...

[@HVACGUY]

Thanks, will do!

[@leonardvigil6892]

so delightful✨👼👼✨✨ have a Great day💙🎶☕️ Thanks my friend For sharing this Image

[@roberts.3712]

Maytag made good washing machines. I think they are made by Nortek .

[@Bass.Player]

Whirlpool owns and makes Maytag, Maytag has been a part of the Whirlpool corporation since 2006.

[@jeremymanning6967]

Made by Nordyne

[@donaldpainter956]

I've seen a few of the Maytag furnace and package units I guess at one time it was a cheaper option

[@Paulie1232]

Nice job....

[@brianb8011]

The board on the blower housing looks to have the red light flashing and green light solid, is that an error code flash?

[@jamesszalla4274]

Tappan, Maytag, Gibson and Frigidaire are all the same furnace and are Nordyne products.

[@Hvac-dude]

Great job Curtis 😊😊😊 I'm almost done wirh school😊😊

[@HVACGUY]

Wish you the best of luck bro

[@Hvac-dude]

@@HVACGUY thanks😊

[@dangerhellbender3245]

Would u say a bad transistor would cause a drop in voltage from 24 to 15?

[@guytech7310]

Unlikely either a transistors shorts closed or shorts open. Never stuck at 15. My guess is that 15V is the right voltage. Looking up the status code, the error is a "pressure switch closed fault". Maybe a flue obstruction causing the furnace into lockout mode. That might explain why the flue pipe wasn't connected as it an obstruction causing the pipe to become disconnected.

[@MizoIWorld]

why not try jumper 24 from the board directly to ecm blower

[@lakeshvac]

I have had several thermostats, get stuck on the wait or time delay. Most of them had batteries.

[@donaldpainter956]

I know in my area the inspector will turn the job down if the return plenum is plywood it has to be metal I don't see a problem but the code states it must be metal and they won't let wood go

[@jthonn]

Dual fuel furnace, sounds like double trouble. If anyone can get it going, I know you can. Good video

[@Gatsu1995]

They are the standard in my old region. They're straightforward once you're comfortable with them.

[@TheOneshot78]

Great job🎉

[@Jon-hx7pe]

the schematic said 2-stage fixed speed - wonder if it's a constant torque motor.

[@paulwells-qe4fq]

With fan set to fan on I would’ve pulled the pin connector on the blower to see if I have 220 If no 220 I would work backwards 2:03

[@rkochair]

Looks like it's been an issue for a while - likely in the cool mode as well - iced up coil from no blower then melts......there are signs of water on the schematic label and on the bottom side of the blower assy'. Water and electronics never get along.

[@benerling1657]

I love the pilot won't light calls!

[@Sctronic209]

Those furnaces are terrible. Bad connection problems top to bottom.

[@mos8541]

HEY young man i need u light my pilot lights... maam you're house is all electric... weeelll... PLUG IT IIINNN!

[@saypleasethankyou]

But they can watch satellite Tv while they wait for the board❤

[@jeremymanning6967]

There is a special ecm tester for that motor similar to the genteq one

[@michaelgonzales803]

Hey Curtis that blower board has a different set of LED codes for diagnostics not sure if you were aware

[@michaelgonzales803]

On the one I worked on Solid green and flashing red meant motor fault (bad motor)

[@throttlebottle5906]

@@michaelgonzales803 probably the exact issue of dead ECM. still wise to double check and make sure 🤔

[@natehicks8939]

Of course that is a pile of Nordyne. ECM motors need both 24V and line voltage to operate.

[@DevinHVACInc]

Post update on this when u get back to it

[@chrissipple1018]

It's going to be like all the other peoples videos no follow up.

[@bobboscarato1313]

@@chrissipple1018 Only if Curtis has time; customer may call another co.

[@markraymond2221]

That is some Suh-weet wall paper!!! ha!

[@realestateservicessaleshea99]

Make a 24v rig with different types of connectors,also 110v rig , you will be the source. Last resort, be careful. Thanks again for the videos!😐🍺🍺🍺🥃🥃🇺🇲

[@donaldpainter956]

Are you positive it's not in a safety lock out because no inducer fan or indoor blower possible could be locked out from a safety but it could be the board also

[@charlesmcadory8286]

Could you just back probe the connector by using Fieldpiece RCT2 Extension Probe Tip Set?

[@Boraxo]

10:47 Did you just fry his board ?

[@davidb2438]

Just blew the fuse that protects board and transformer

[@paulwells-qe4fq]

It’s the blower 21:24

[@Whats12345]

Nordyne uses a "Expansion Port" plug on the board to connect their "variable speed" Blower Motor Control Board when they use an ECM Motor. I feel you likely have a failed ECM Module in the Motor, as they are a common failure on them. As crazy as it sounds, I can tell you that with a Nordyne the control board for the blower can be programmed to run at a rate higher than what the motor is capable of and literally make it self destruct, so be very diligent on making sure the CFM is set correctly on the Furnace/HP settings. God I hate Nordyne!!!

[@HVACGUY]

I think you’re right

[@rkochair]

Quite often, maybe 80% + of the time the ECM has a burnt thermistor on it which if you pull it off it is obvious. Black round disc soldered into the board - size of a quarter or fifty cent piece depending on whether a 1/2 or 3/4 hp. The part is like $3 online and it is rather easy to replace. In lieu of replacing motor I offer fixing it and have done 2 so far with success. Some people just want a new motor so you give them what they want.

[@MrBuickstage1]

Gas flex inside unit single wall vent dang !! two chucks and a truck need to be code no tape at all

[@jamesszalla4274]

Most likely the motor inverter. Like you said, it’s real easy to check. The burn mark is pretty obvious. It helps immeasurably to have an ECM tester on Nordyne furnaces when you’re not sure if it’s the fan board or the motor.

[@throttlebottle5906]

heh, good thing he didn't cause it to "light" somehow *Boom*/Bang/*whoosh*. 🤣

[@jamesfitzsimmons381]

Curtis looks like there’s a 12yr part warranty

[@mikehouser5430]

Morning

[@realSamAndrew]

Why was there no way to jump out the blower motor? Don't you have an ecm tester that can send the right power directly to the motor itself?

[@HVACGUY]

Yes, but this has a factory specific hook up that doesn’t match anything I have. That hook up on the bottom right of the second board goes directly to the motor, then I had now good way to jump 24v to the board,

[@realSamAndrew]

@@HVACGUY perhaps the equipment you have is not compatible, but in general, there HAS to be a way to get line power directly to the motor, no? Just trying to learn, not knocking 😉.

[@davidmorgan3133]

Should have a 12 year parts warranty. You need a tester to ck weather it is the motor or the motor board

[@chrismartinez3034]

variable speed motors cap crapped

[@MrDookieDan]

the cost of the circuit.

[@karellodewijks4971]

👍👍😊😊

[@charlesmcadory8286]

Never mind I commented tooooo soon.

[@joshhodges5688]

Motor is bad probably under warranty

[@mts7274]

I thought it was dangerous to put a water heater and a furnace so close together in a small room like that.

[@Gatsu1995]

There are regulations to follow. The two main ones are how much airflow you get to the room for the fire, and what size the vent pipes are. I'd like to see a drain oan on that hot water tank, but its not regulated. The bottom of the furnace csn get wet without damaging it.

[@racent3502]

I know what’s wrong with it ain’t got no gas in it

[@steveblake8766]

363 thumbs uP

[@jeffreyanderson539]

You need to talk more and explain what you are testing for better videos!

[@549BR]

And here I was ready to say that Curtice is just about the best HVAC guy on the YT; apologies to Ted Cook, because he knows he's at the top of the heap due primarily to his many years of experience. 😎

[@JoseJB0]

Looks like it might be an 18v dc blower not a 24v ac. I believe is a bad blower.

[@bobboscarato1313]

What are you talking about?

[@JoseJB0]

@@bobboscarato1313 Some Nordyne ECM blower motors are 18v or 24v dc, 12v dc each wire, not the regular "c" & 24v signal

[@bobboscarato1313]

@@JoseJB0 Thank you; I'm not familiar with that equipment. Appreciated.

[@JoseJB0]

@@bobboscarato1313 I'm not sure on this one, couldn't see the wiring but I've seen it more in the package units, Nordyne, Gibson, Maytag etc.