Cute Rat Lutonada Vs IS#4 Ascension 15

Lutonada Did Her Best :(
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[@ConfusedWeeb]

"I would have done it earlier but I was too busy playing Doom Eternal." Based.

[@DetektywW11]

I just noticed that Lutonada and Vulcan (5* Juggernaut) for some reason don't get the extra tile ahead of them like 6* Juggernauts do. As if they needed to gimp them even more...

[@shiningnightmare5616]

The same case for Protector, and I'm assuming it will be the same for Arts Defender as well when the 6* version is out

[@crisperstorm]

IIRC it's like this across the one/two tile defender classes with Saria strangely being the one exception when every other 6 star has that extra tile

[@Only_Ameen04]

​@@crisperstorm Saria and Shu

[@wildfire_]

this is most likely because 6* ops tend to have more reason to be put out of the way (to the side of the lane where they can attack without needing to block) courtesy of the higher stats and more dps oriented skills.

[@shiningnightmare5616]

@@crisperstorm Not specifically Saria, just Guardian Defender in general

[@frantz816]

Wtf were they cooking with her S2's shift force 😭 Caper can't be the only good 4 star coming out soon

[@DrSilvergun]

praying to the chatbot for chapter 14

[@user-mg4rc1qw6w]

I too want to see a buff rat. like jerry in that one tom and jerry episode

[@DrSilvergun]

if lutonada ever does something useful i'm using that as a thumb

[@matjaz5684]

Wdym you want good 4*/5*? Just pull for the new 6* that does the same thing as every other 6*!

[@pathalenvivaldi7811]

Defender Estelle is neat, I can't wait for her to come out. And she's got a push/pull gimmick as a non-pusher puller subclass? That's a two for!

[@theoutlaw6044]

Wish her heal only required enemies die within 4 adjacent tiles, having to block them can be super cringe and seeing her miss a heal that estelle would have gotten is also cringe

[@byakurenhijiri69]

lutonada and click lets go

[@Sceptera]

It is funny because on my IS4 runsI have been using Estelle and she does a decent job. Early on Estelle's S2 is good for killing and she has module that reduces damage taken, and later on she becomes a 3 block with decent HP, and ends up using S1 so i can heal her.

[@echigokurogane8612]

Oh yeah, that 34 DP cost is so bad for 4 star only, hell, 4 star in general. That’s part of why a 4 star Blast caster would be bad as well. And it’s clear to see that a HG still doesn’t fully understand that a high DP cost op/branch needs to have very strong kits to compensate.

[@DrSilvergun]

a lesson that's too late to learn Has always been like this from the start and it was all over when mlynar released

[@ungulatemanalpha]

hypergryph's treatment of this mousegirl really cheeses me off

[@mrrp405]

Unfortunate, wouldve really liked for her to be good in IS, ive been building around it lately.

[@xdmamakkopitiam8930]

Came here for rat pog, stayed for king relic pog

[@DrSilvergun]

TL DR version DP too high Can't solo stuff Doesn't scale well with most items Not worth

[@kotyara85]

Harrowing. When will they make another good 4*

[@DrSilvergun]

@@kotyara85 the chat gpteth giveth and the chat gpteth taketh away

[@kotyara85]

​@@DrSilvergun Can't they force the AI to git gud at design by writing "design good op" in the prompt or something. Verdant was a travesty and I seriously considered dropping 4* only and just playing the game like normal. Lutonada is making me lose hope again

[@DrSilvergun]

@@kotyara85 lutonada is the worst :( She's so close to being a good flexible 4* it hurts

[@Victorvonbass]

Truly one of the 4 star of all time

[@echigokurogane8612]

Once again it’s stupid that they didn’t give her S1 AOE or multi-target. I know all the other Juggernaughts only have one AOE/multi-target damage skill, but Lutonada being a 4 star it would make sense that she gets two considering that one paper she has less damage and less survivability compared to the others. I would say that HG has a bunch of monkeys typing on keyboards making most of the op design decisions, but that’s an insult to the monkeys.

[@DrSilvergun]

Would make total sense for her s1 to be aoe or do arts (or both) S1 being for soloing lanes and S2 being for when she has support That can't be allowed

[@theoutlaw6044]

We can cope for a module that changes juggernauts to attack all enemies blocked by self, would still be distinct from aoe guard trait and fix her s1

[@DrSilvergun]

@@theoutlaw6044 They already have modules

[@theoutlaw6044]

@@DrSilvergun ik I'm just already starting the cope for mod2

[@shiningnightmare5616]

Genuinely thought when I first saw her that she has the potential to be one of the best 4* in the game only for HG to fuck up her survivability mechanism by only making the heal taken from enemies blocked by her

[@whiterook79]

A shame, i love jaggernauts. But i don't understand why her and vulcan have 1 less tile of range than mudrock/penance and if her talent was heal with dead enemies in her range (if she had the tile ahead of her) and not blocked enemies she could have been way better, and her skills are just there: a generic skill with no aoe and budget penance S2, a 32 cost operator should have a more focused kit to balance the cost. I'll build her anyway when she comes on global for moral support and because she's cute and that's all that matters in the end.

[@adamvegas5951]

Hey biggest issue seems to be lack of defense it’s weird that a 30+ dp defender could have less than 1500 defense maybe if her S1 was more defensive her stat line could work better? Also I find it funny that the other juggernauts have big anime weapons while the 4 star has a hammer you’d find in like a hardware store

[@lamiaprincess6371]

Juggernauts tend to have less DEF but a lot more HP than the other Defenders, it's something that Vulcan also runs into as a problem because she only has like 650 DEF even with her module. Mudrock has the highest DEF but it doesn't even crack 700, but with Mudrock you basically never notice so

[@adamvegas5951]

@@lamiaprincess6371 the thing is Vulcan gets hp regen from her talent and her skills so her survivability is significantly stronger I just would like a better survivability skill for this defender since her damage is a bit lackluster

[@lamiaprincess6371]

@@adamvegas5951 Yeah I'm just saying that's why Lutonada's DEF feels lacking, because it just is for this class. Although it is worth noting ever Vulcan suffers from survivability issues when off skill, which is often given their SP costs.

[@SmokuZnadPotoku]

This games is in a really sad state right now. In the past, most of the Operators had some usage. Right now (new) OPs are divded into either broken as hell and "YOU MUST USE IT!!!!" or "never build it unless you're crazy" :/ I mean, it doesn't apply always of course but not gonna lie, it annoys me as hell that some operators just s*ck badly and you can't do a thing with it, I feel like HG stopped caring about balance, especially for those "worse" Operators :c

[@DrSilvergun]

dw they stopped cariing about balance for 6* too just look at the upcoming 6* and count how many of them are broken unmatched ops that overshadow all predecesors

[@Sceptera]

@@DrSilvergun I wish they would go back and fix some older operators, you know stuff like Tsukinogi shelter applying all the time, or Frostleaft not haveing a 0.15 attack interval added because E2.

[@dunam531]

33:22 Da :D

[@reanimate7777]

limonada is very cute

[@dnomyeR985]

But at least Lutonada can eat spiders and unblockable mobs with her s2 you can finally have your own pocket Shu but rat, I'd say that is decent since I'm a defenderknights enjoyer

[@voltrixgames4375]

Is ending 4 diff 15 4* only doable 👁👄👁, you did ending 1,2,3 and now all that’s left is 4 if you haven’t done it right? also will you ever do it for enhanced endings? I think it would require near perfect if not already perfect collectible rng 💀

[@DrSilvergun]

they're all doable i'll do em all

[@voltrixgames4375]

@@DrSilvergun how will you cope with the 360,000 hp elite res drones, do you just leak them lol because the boss has 270,000 which I find funny how those drones have that much more health than the boss, and the fact it’s just a shit ton of Dublin elite higher tier enemies like the shadow blades 😩mixed with Sami collapsals and champions and the def and freeze bomb drones (seriously wtf is that shit lmao) , that shit looks like a nightmare without a lot of health points to leak

[@DrSilvergun]

@@voltrixgames4375 frankly 360k hp isn't a lot when u have a ton of buffs

[@voltrixgames4375]

@@DrSilvergun well, I mean- when the boss has only 270,000 and the drones all have more than the boss and give res buff- those are like all bosses at that point 🥴🥴🥴, fr fr we should not let them cook 💀

[@rafaelantoniomartinez4371]

Can someone tell me which is better between Midnight and Arene at E1 Max? Much appreciate it.

[@DrSilvergun]

1 target midnight 2 target arene Generally midnight

[@rafaelantoniomartinez4371]

@@DrSilvergun so should I build Midnight? I have Arene at E1 Max. Should I still do it?

[@DrSilvergun]

@@rafaelantoniomartinez4371 I suppose most people would tell u no, cause they fufill the same role? But he costs resources u would regain in a couple of days anyway do whatever

[@LordPatroclus]

Damn. Totter and Humus had me very excited for their releases. I hope Ep14 will give us another actually decent 4 star :( Obviously Verdant is awful, Lutonada is meh and Caper seems a bit too gimmicky for my liking.