CUTTING EDGE, MOVING SLOW - The Final Cut Pro Conundrum | Documentary

❗️ All interviews were filmed in spring of 2023 (pre - Final Cut Pro Creative Summit 2023) ❗️
Everybody is switching to DaVinci Resolve, and a strange feeling is going through the Final Cut Pro Community. The lack of feature updates is the apparent cause - or is it? In this documentary, we will see that the underlying issue is something else entirely.
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Matthew O'Brien - @matthewTobrien
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Brad West - @Brad_West
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[@RichardTaylorTV]

Eric will be joining the FINAL CUT TV & Coffee crew LIVE! at 10 AM EST this morning here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hp65aZWEe52iiqc

[@sometimesWF]

guys, I use FCP and I appreciate this effort but: at least call it a short documentary, since it's less than 40min. tbh: this is just a regular YT video, there is no story.

[@iamericlenz]

There isn't?

[@TheFinalCutBro]

Thanks for having me be a part of this! I definitely feel a bit different since the previous update, but a lot of what I said is still true to this day! I do feel like they are getting updates out at a faster pace as of late though which is amazing to see!

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you for being part of this. For sure and I think 10.7 with the scrolling timeline was a great message!

[@Brad_West]

Honored to have been a part of this! Thanks for putting this together Eric! 😄🙏🏼

[@iamericlenz]

My pleasure, thank you for being part of this!

[@tyforsharing]

Switched over to DaVinci 8 months ago after being on FCPX for 9 years. Took me about 2 solid months to regain my efficiency that I had in FCPX. 8 months in now and I am a better editor in DaVinci than I ever could have been in FCPX.

[@robainscough]

Agree, many editors/colorist/audio that do it for a living have moved to DaVinci Resolve/Fusion/Fairlight ... it really is that good ... I'm a panel guy so I have all the Blackmagic Designs gear and they integrate flawlessly with nothing I need to do other than plug the units in.

[@FAMEAcademyNY]

I put Resolve on my Laptop. Im thinking of switching. If i get the time.

[@TWcitystory]

Thank you for making this video with your heart. I am a video editor in Taiwan, and FCP was the first editing software I ever touched. I fell in love with it right away. I have also used Premiere Pro and DaVinci Resolve for work. I often tell my friends with amusement, "I always can't tell if I like FCP or the video itself." Because using FCP is like breathing naturally. Whenever I am rushing to finish a job, I always use FCP, which makes me able to complete the job smoothly and focus on the image content itself, rather than too many operational details. Even more importantly, whenever I edit with other software, my right hand becomes more sore and tired. In the video production industry in Taiwan, it is indeed relatively rare for people to use FCP. Whenever I mention the editing software I use to my colleagues, I always get a little surprise and curiosity, because most people use Premiere Pro or Edius. I learned about this video from FCP Cafe, and I am very happy that there are so many people who love it too. This makes me feel not alone. I never thought that even watching a documentary about a software could be so moving.

[@JamesZhan]

This is so relatable. I'm a professional video editor and I LOVE video editing, BUT I only enjoy it IF I'm editing in FCP. I had to cut in Premiere recently and I hated the experience. People say tools shouldn't matter but I think it's absolutely wrong to think that. If I'm using a tool day in and day out to do. my job, the tool BETTER clicks with me.

[@RichardTaylorTV]

Eric will be joining the FINAL CUT TV & Coffee crew Saturday tomorrow morning at 10AM EST US here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hp65aZWEe52iiqc

[@ozedsal5581]

I watched this live. I didn't even know it was an 18-minute video. It feels more like a 6-minute video! The collaboration is so good and well-edited. I could watch a 1-hour documentary of this

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you so much! I appreciate your feedback. Maybe we’ll do another one in a year to see how things are going. Let’s see. :D :)

[@RichardTaylorTV]

Filmed pre - Final Cut Pro Creative Summit 2023.

[@IanMcCausland]

damn yer audio was the best!

[@VlastaStevanovich]

But all the concerns remain because Final Cut Pro Creative Summit 2023 didn't change anything for most people to be honest. I'm barely even using the scrolling timeline.

[@indoorplantsforbeginners]

Congrats on being a part of the video👍🏼 I think the video was a wonderful idea that was executed really well. Kudos 🎉👏👏

[@OfftheTracksMovie]

I had very similar feelings right before the Creative Summit last November. From 2011 to 2018 there was a lot of progress with the app, then Apple slammed on the breaks. When FCP for iPad came out last year we finally knew what they had been working on. Unlike Resolve for the iPad (which was literally just the same as the desktop version) FCP for the iPad was redesigned and rewritten which pulled resources away from the development of the desktop app. But I'm not the target user for the iPad app, so I felt neglected. Then I saw 10.7 and now feel confident that Apple is going to ramp up a bit on the desktop app again. There are many long standing requests that they're aware of and are working on. 2024 could turn out to be a very exciting year for Final Cut users! Don't let us down Apple, we love Final Cut Pro, it matters to us!

[@iamericlenz]

I absolutely agree with all of that! I’m excited for 2024 since they addressed the house-keeping - i.e. the scrolling timeline. It seems like they heard us. Btw. I loved you doc! It’s linked in the description. :)

[@mymonfort]

Gents. Don’t hold your breath.

[@simpIevideoedit]

I never thought I would have such an emotional attachment to a piece of software as I do with Final Cut. I started with the original iMovie on an eMac back in the day. I then graduated to Final Cut Express and then 7. When Final Cut X came out I was floored and like many of you I felt it was a program specifically designed for me. Thank you for the great doc and for holding the line for the future of FCP.

[@chrisatlatenite]

I was exactly the same! I was originally PC-only, but then my brother bought an eMac with Final Cut Pro Express for our DV camera, and it just went from there...

[@iamericlenz]

The architecture of Final Cut Pro, as we know it today, is still groundbreaking. I really hope that it gets the care that it needs!

[@seecraig]

I started using NLEs in the late 1980s and editing years before that. When Apple came out with the magnetic timeline, connected clips, connected storylines, and keyword collections I thought someone finally got it right. Every other NLE is still adding great features to their Moviolas. Yet Apple has left so much potential on the table and walked away from the revolution they started. I never want to slog through a track-based NLE again after nearly 20 years of editing that way. There's so much wrong with that paradigm that I find it as indefensible as someone arguing in favor of hand-cranked cars. Yet Apple themselves really don't see the value in what they've done (or at least the value it has for Apple the company).

[@iamericlenz]

I absolutely agree! It‘s heartbreaking that Final Cut doesn‘t get the love it deserves! I hope Apple changes that since Final Cut Pro is the best invention since digital video.

[@JimCutler]

THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS! I LOVE FCPX and every time I have to use another NLE I miss FCPX, but 1) Smoothing keyframes is worst in FCPX. 2) Audio mixing should be so much better than it is. Remember when FCP (before FCPX) had audio fader memory for mixing? Why can't we have faders that can midi link to tactile external faders?

[@SamFigueroa]

Mega gut. Thanks for creating this. I've gone from DaVinci to Premiere Pro and landed on Final Cut Pro now. There are definitely things I'm missing from both of the NLEs I was in first, but I'm just so much faster at getting through an edit on FCP and it just is waaaay more stable. A thing to note on DaVinci and Pr is that they crashed a whole lot for me, whether it was on PC or Mac. I don't want to go back to that.

[@iamericlenz]

I'm always saying that I can surely wait a little longer for some as long as stability and reliability are the top priority features for the FCP team. If they have to do something, they should take their time to do it right.

[@Okiyah]

Nice piece! And I like the title, it resonates with me as the compromise I'm willing to make (although the rubberband is pretty stretched) . The most excrutiating thing about it is, to me, that FCP has the best foundation to build a story from the ground up. The core of video editing...is the editing. So media management and the work in the timeline. Two things that are super strong in FC IMO. Everytime I think about switching is mainly when I finalize and go into polishing (CC, effects, keyframing). But then, everytime I start something from scratch, I'm relieved to be in FCP. They broke ground, they had the audacity to start such a complex software from scratch. And then they stopped the work. I find that hard to stomach after all those years, being so close to a unique and fully fledged tool.

[@iamericlenz]

Well put. I couldn’t agree more!

[@meyerdigitalfilm]

I get what you want to say, but let me be honest to you. You can do 99% of it in DVR and it often times make more sense: So last week I made the complete switch to DVR after a decade of FCP. It wasn't an easy decision, but I used DVR here and there for the last 3 years, and now I made the complete jump. TBH I really love the magnetic timeline but speaking of that I found pretty much everything translated into DVR even working similarly like the magnetic timeline at least 95% of its functionality, I did very deep research to make sure everything functions as I need it. Here a few points which are better in DVR than in FCPX: - Key wording (You can KW Markers, clips in the timeline in the media pool everywhere it is so well organized) - Assets in Powerbins - Interaction between media pool and timeline and in reverse, meaning I can put anything back to a media pool or bin from a timeline that is f awesome - dedicated mixing board for sound-mastering and mixing & automation - Easy export a video split in the individual clips - Stabilization is way way way more flexible and with the work of fusion you can do everything - the Proxy Generator Workflow is awesome which auto generates proxies if you aren't in DVR and from a watch folder - Syncing clips in an active timeline is f awesome - MY MOST LIKED More stacked Timelines in one View you can have an A Roll Timeline open and a B Roll Timeline to move clips from top to down in the timeline ITS HUGE WORKFLOWWISE - Color Grading / Magic Mask is sooooo advanced in comparison to Colorfinale pro and final cut and it is ALL ON BOARD, means i don't have to be afraid to update DVR the plugins always work not like in FCPX where i can wait half a year to have the 3rd pary plugins to update and sometimes charge extra to get it back to work (f sucks) - Fusion / Tracking / Compositing is awesome - Audio transcription and Text based editing in so many different languages is a big gamechanger since i do a lot of corporate talking head type of videos, and it saves me weeks a year now to get a sense or overview of what the people talk - Coloring Clips without making a role for it - Export Settings - DVR just make sense and it has it all ON BOARD (Sorry for my english) I know that is a long list, but it speeded up my workflow at least 4x. I really wished apple wouldn't have killed FCPX with pure ignorance, but at this point i would even say for most people DVR or Capcut is the much better choice. FCPX is dead. RIP.

[@Okiyah]

@@meyerdigitalfilm I definitely believe it can be everything you say and I don’t doubt it’s serving you well. But to me, and the work I do, it’s all overkill a little bit. When I tried to make the switch DVC was on ver 15. So maybe it changed. But it felt like a technician tool. Loaded with all the possibilities and all the buttons to do everything. But when I curate and edit stuff, I want all this out of the way. I also need stability, without the software changing drastically every 6 month under my feet. And DVC didn’t get out of my way enough for my taste. Your answer in fact solidifies my wish for FCP to NOT become DVC. I think that it’s quite healthy to have the two running parallel. My wish for FCP is mainly for it to keep its cutting edge mission, carefully offering more, following its strengths. Maybe a more agressive integration of AI (the simple audio slider added recently already saved me a lot of headaches), and making improvements on some great fonctionnalities that lack luster.

[@ABetterYouOfficial]

I love FCP, BUT I would like to see better built in effects and Audio Captions like CapCut.

[@erfolgreichmitvideos]

I work a lot with FCP pro, Premiere and a little DaVinci. But FCP pro remains a game changer. Mainly because of its speed and efficient editing solution. However, I think important functions need to be upgraded. Such as editing by text, transcription and more efficient colour grading. In today's new world of social media, video productions need to be high quality but also fast. This can only be achieved with Final Cut pro. I hope Apple recognises this and stays at the cutting edge of technology and development. Then nobody will be so quick to switch to another app.

[@RichardTaylorTV]

Stay tuned!

[@iamericlenz]

I hope so, too!

[@ozedsal5581]

This is well composed! FCP needs improvement, and transcription these days is really a must, as it can assist deaf individuals or those in noisy environments by providing the text for them to read.

[@texashammer4]

The text & transcription. This week (and multiple times in the past years) I've spend so much time looking for other solutions (Captionator, Capcut, Descript, even Lumberjack) and each one had massive issues for regular use. Hoping so hard that can get added ASAP. 🙏

[@visionandvoice]

Excellent documentary. Well done. Long time user here. Final Cut Pro since 2004, FCP X since day one in 2011.

[@JustinPhillipsScuba]

Great little documentary! Thanks for putting this together. I think it is very telling that in the Scary Fast event, actually think it was the behind the scenes video, that Apples lead video editor had Premiere Pro up on her computer in the video, she was not working in Final Cut Pro.

[@iamericlenz]

I get the angle you’re coming from, however, do keep in mind that Apple is a hardware company first. They want to sell their stuff to Resolve and Premiere users, too.

[@BenettGraezer]

Fantastic video! Enjoyed every moment! FCP remains my preferred choice due to its user-friendly interface and efficient workflow. As a content creator, it has truly revolutionized my process. Appreciate all of you guys valuable FCP tutorials on KZbin; they've significantly enhanced my understanding and utilization of FCP's capabilities. Anticipating exciting updates from FCP in the near future! 🔥

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you very much. Final Cut Pro is, as Rafael put it in the doc, “underrated even 12 years after it’s release”.

[@JamesKerLindsay]

This was a great video. As a creator who needs to focus on my content more than editing, I love using Final Cut. It is fast and gets the job done. But I can see why many are getting nervous. There are all sorts of huge developments out there that will introduce tools that will make life a lot easier for creators. For instance text based editing and own voice generation would be wonderful for when you need to add in material post filming. Apple needs to be on top of this.

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you very much! Yes, but I do hope Apple does Apple things. They are rarely first to a party, but if they show up, they do it right. The implementation of text.based editing in DaVinci Resolve is … usable. However, I think there could be done a better job building a workflow around that.

[@jakefelzien]

Thanks for inviting me!!!! 🤘🤘🤘

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you for spending the time being part of this! :)

[@explorer9239]

Eric is back! Awesome job putting this together! Many thanks

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you! Yeah, slowly but steadily, I’m working my way back to KZbin. So many other projects I had to get done… But I have plans, mate! :)

[@BillMcLean]

Great video with my all favorite final cut and editing KZbinrs! Editing and sound was on point, lucky to have remote guests with good setups to use.

[@iamericlenz]

Much appreciated!

[@GoDuffdaddy]

❤ thanks. I still love FCPX 🎉 I just wish it would have a serious update cycle.

[@Throp]

Thank you so much for doing this and thank you to the filmmakers who participated. This was fantastic

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you very much!

[@nerdynautilus5373]

I still remember when Apple axed Aperture. RIP

[@iamericlenz]

Yep. And I’d be so happy if Aperture existed today…

[@DaveDFX]

They axed the best compositing app in the world at that time. They bought Nothing Real Shake. Lowered the price and then killed it a year later.

[@darpompie4354]

That was a brutal decision on their part. That was the day I lost trust in Apple. We had all our eggs in the Aperture basket and out of the blue had the wool pulled from under us. Although FCP is awesome and I do use and prefer it. I will never forget what Apple did with Aperture and I now use all their software with the underlying knowledge that Apple can axe it at any time for the dumbest of reasons. In other words make sure you have a back up plan and learn more than one.

[@masterwatch]

excellent video from Eric. All the guys you feature are very good. I'm very tempted to try DaVinci but I don't have time to switch again.

[@Humanitypictures]

What a great documentary! Thanks so much for making it!

[@iamericlenz]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you :)

[@rlbink2498]

Many MANY thanks for this. Long overdue! The FCP move to iPad was just… underwhelming if you’re a content creator or video producer trying to make a living on FCP on MAC. Edit: this feels like an eulogy video 😢

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you very much! I know that many were underwhelmed by the iPad version. However, I think resources in the pro apps team are finally clearing up. I hope we see more development and more regular updates. :)

[@MakeSomething]

My goodness, this is so well put together. Some great points.

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you very much!

[@KaneAndPia]

colour grades and key frame control. YES YES YES. PLEASE.

[@iamericlenz]

That‘d be number one on my wishlist, too! :D

[@thomaspich6335]

Incredible documentary! Thank you for putting this together

[@iamericlenz]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@RafaelLudwig]

Always hopeful for the future of FCP.

[@iamericlenz]

For sure. I want to see in flourish, too! :)

[@michaeltorumedia]

Appreciate you bringing all of these voices in the creator FCPX community together to speak. As a FCPX editor I’ve definitely felt frustrated that the software doesn’t seem to be keeping up with others like DaVinci. It’s nice to know I’m not alone. I do love FCPX for so many reasons like the magnetic timeline and the intuitive nature of the interface but some updates would be great.

[@iamericlenz]

Great to hear! And I totally get you. I’m feeling the same way.

[@JamesZhan]

"Final Cut Pro does so many amazing things that are so easy to take for granted." Matthew said this and I *so* agree. Putting FCP, DVR and Premiere together, yes Premiere and DVR have been getting way more significant features than FCP, BUT, FCP's magnetic timeline and hover skimming alone trump all the fancy features in the other two NLEs for me. Cutting video and working with plugins in FCP are just *way faster and way more fun* in FCP for some reason. If I had to use one word to describe my experience cutting videos in FCP would be: *fluid*. I'm a full-time video creator/editor in higher ed. I thought I loved video editing, but after trying to edit videos in DVR and Premiere recently, I realized what I actually love is *video editing IN FCP*. And it's not a matter of familiarity because Premiere was my first NLE when I first dabbled in video editing; it was only after I started editing videos in FCP that I fell in love with this profession, so much so that I switched careers to do it full-time. Anyway, do I wish FCP will get more updates and more features that users have been asking for? Yes! At the same time, if Apple did accelerate the development of FCP again, I hope they keep the simplicity and fluidity of FCP.

[@iamericlenz]

Well said. I agree! Thank you for sharing your thoughts! :)

[@nagual2335]

No hope! The limited and buggy audio processing is so incredibly bad. I’m stuck

[@FAMEAcademyNY]

Apple wont be happy until Blackmagic makes a computer and kills the whole game.

[@HomesickMac]

Amazing idea Eric, so many fine thoughts and Apple - should - listen!!!

[@iamericlenz]

I hope they do. This is our “open letter” to Apple! Thank you!

[@BCpov]

The magnetic timeline is great, but the browser never gets any love. Still leaps and bounds above anything else out there.

[@iamericlenz]

True! This entire documentary was basically edited in the browser with profound logging before anything ever got into a timeline. :)

[@matthewTobrien]

So true!

[@sankofa216]

Apple has some of the most shrewd ideas ever. I predict that the next major update will have everything needed with the ability to specialize within the spatial video/audio ecosystem for the vision device. I’ve always been ahead of the curve and it’s coming. Bigger and better than the expectations.

[@bergmanvideoproductions]

I’m glad I watched that. I feel less alone regarding my views on Final Cut. Good job with the film!

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you very much! I knew many people were feeling this way. This is our version of the „open letter“. :)

[@bergmanvideoproductions]

@@iamericlenzI totally agree!

[@ElliotRobertsVideos]

Great video! Hopefully some bigger changes coming this year.

[@iamericlenz]

I hope so, too! Hearing that the iPad version took resources from the FCP team gives me strong hopes now that they got it out of the door.

[@ZyrilBundoc]

Amazing video. Thanks for making this!

[@iamericlenz]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!

[@GlassBulletPictures]

Thanks for making this doc, really well done! It covered many of my concerns about FCPX. It's fast and stable but lacks modern features like roto brush and auto subtitles. Hopefully Apple will start listening to its users. Thanks again!

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you a lot! :) I hope so, too!

[@theottospocket998]

I pitched a Clip/Role mixer while I was on the team years ago but couldn't get traction. Now I work on a different NLE that has clip/track mixers 😥

[@Soul_Visuals_Photography]

This was awesome. I’m glad you did it. So much accuracy here.

[@iamericlenz]

Glad to hear - thank you so much!

[@SoftClip_Q]

Same though but I’m a Logic Pro user. Just feels like the pro apps fall behind to them.

[@bigbotstudiosNOW]

This was a well thought out piece. I've been using Final Cut for 20 years and it makes me the fast editor my clients need me to be. I'm sure Apple will continue to support and innovate Final Cut as even updates are starting to come out faster and more frequently. I can't imagine them dropping this from their offerings.

[@iamericlenz]

I think so, too!

[@SC36DC]

Incredible video, very well made. Loved it. I DO hope someone at Apple, that can make a difference, sees it.

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you! I wish so much that they see it!

[@jermainenaidoo]

Almost 40 days since 10.8 and no updates for the bug plagued version. Apple has quietly given up on FCP. They should drop the P from FCP

[@neutrinoradio7894]

This was surprisingly emotional. Thanks for the video.

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you very much. It is emotional - and that speaks a lot for FCP.

[@kutframe]

Great video! Great editing! I am a professional editor and I have been using FCP & FCPX for over 20 years! I also have a channel (in French) dedicated to FCP. FCP is probably the best and faster NLE for editing thanks in particular to its magnetic timeline and the organisation workflow, but today Apple must make a big move and offer us a major update of FCP! Too many features are missing (as mentioned by the speakers of your video), including simple things like the ability to create favorites for Effects and Titles, being able to rename Color Effects , implement an Audio Mixer, and others features that would allow FCP to get back into the race and be taken more seriously by production companies on high-end projects. It's frustrating to see a software with so much potential stagnate for years! I hope your video gets back to Apple!

[@iamericlenz]

Well said. Thank you very much!

[@darude]

I’m no pro video editor, I only tinker with my hobby skate videos and some music related promo stuff and such, but I generally love FCP, but as a music producer I can’t understand why there’s not Logic-like audio mixing possibility, but this clumsy way of handling things. I also am somewhat disappointed by the now slowness of upgrades, especially with the AI-aided stuff like auto-captions and magic mask.

[@iamericlenz]

I fully agree. Logic is such a gem and the audio in FCP is so frustrating. Furthermore, there is no easy way to roundtrip to Logic…

[@darude]

Yup, it's clumsy at best. I DO get that in some situations (and when you are forced to and used to the clip based effects & mixing) it can make sense, but it's both insanely hard to keep track of audio things in a big edit and very non-economic having per-clip effects. I've been craving for something "simple" like them making it possible to assign certain objects/samples/audio to a group/channel where you could treat & mix them like you would in a DAW and the rest going to a "the rest" bus before master, so you could do both, treat single stuff in the edit and pipe more precious audio to channels/busses/groups.@@iamericlenz

[@007Yasir]

I was on FC 7, but when it became FCPx, I switched to DaVinci Resolve and never looked back, even though I have the Adobe CC, but stayed away from premiere as well.

[@shadowcultur]

Kinda can’t believe they showcased Resolve on their M3 drop and not Final Cut smh

[@iamericlenz]

But in the end, Apple sells hardware. And they want to get the prosumers and pros. It makes sense in my opinion. Nevertheless, more love for FCP in the keynotes would be appreciated. :D

[@WillJBailey]

The fact that Apple made such a song and dance about using the iPhone for their keynote and then used Premiere to edit it, said so much. The temptation to make the leap to Resolve grows

[@iamericlenz]

I diesagree. After all, they’re a hardware company and want so sell their hardware. They wat the Premiere crowd just as much as anyone else.

[@CraigBickerstaff]

All it says is that they hired a 3rd party company to make shoot end edit the keynote and it was a company that doesn't use Final Cut.

[@RyanVierre]

I know this is more of a video for professional video editors, but the same sentiment is shared when it comes to music production in Logic Pro. I switched to Studio One because of its robust features and consistent updates. Apple has gotten so caught up in trying to have the latest and greatest hardware products every year that they (intentionally or unintentionally) disregard the software products that are supposed to keep us reeled in. Their hardware is in a great place of reliability and holding its value; we need consistent software updates and a massive reworking of the hardware pricing, especially for RAM and storage. Dongle life is not life, lol! Great video! It was nice to hear from your colleagues on the matter

[@blackicestudios]

I’ve been hoping since version 10.2 that Apple create tabs for editing , color, audio etc …. Then I saw BMD do it. I’ve been editing since I was 18 , Avid, media100, linear I’ve used it all. This is the most comfortable I’ve ever felt with an editing App. It’s the most fluid it’s fastest and most intuitive editing software ever used. Just a minor update to audio and color and they are good.

[@iamericlenz]

Yep. It doesn’t need much.

[@avincentphotography]

Have been using Final Cut since version one! Yes professionally... Can't begin to tell you how many jobs I have edited. In the last 2 years years I have migrated certain jobs to Davinci... why? The audio. As a musician and someone with recording experience I find on more audio intense jobs I need Fairlight. I need faders... I need to add compression on the master bus... etc... Remember Soundtrack Pro?

[@YoungDecent1]

This is really good 👏 i’ve never really seen myself as an editor but there’s no way you can be a video guy nowadays and not edit. I started on final cut and I really don’t want to switch. I’m also a Music guy so I have a whole bunch of programs that I have to learnand I do not feel like learning another software at this time. So final cut do what you Gotta do. 🎥🎥🎥

[@PaulRandles-editspace201]

I would never use FCP for a complex edit. Track editing will always be my preferred option because I have ultimate control and don't need to fight a magnetic force! That said, for simpler linear edits, FCP and its infamous magnetic timeline has been fluid - but I have so much to learn about it and how it can be manipulated in a way that isn't completely destructive. I feel this is keeping the software alive, it's a unique selling point. But also a pain in the backside, at least for me. However, there's a good reason why Premiere Pro and now Resolve are leading in the industry.

[@RafaelLudwig]

Watching this again, if feels like a sad goodbye video. “Thank you Final Cut Pro, you’ll be missed”

[@iamericlenz]

Rafael, I don’t think it is the case. I totally get the way you’re feeling but 10.7 with the scrolling timeline was a great sign in my opinion. Not because of the scrolling timeline but because the FCP team addressed one of the housekeeping issues. I think the’ve heard us.

[@RafaelLudwig]

@@iamericlenz I agree, the video just felt that way- still excited about the future- thanks again Eric for making this video it keeps the conversation going.

[@iamericlenz]

That’s the goal. Thank you for being part of this and sharing your unique thoughts!

[@adss70]

That was great. Thank you. PS. Is FCP on the same roadmap as Aperture? Well all end up with just iMovie and Photos

[@Mal0wens]

Brilliant! I was hoping to see a postscript explaining the Apple had contacted you and revealed a full development roadmap for the next 5 years! That would’ve been an epic conclusion!

[@cineplus-ch]

What about Logic? with more than 32 loop cells it starts delaying notes at an useless level and with UI glitches, while i run 8000 cells in Ableton with zero latency and lag

[@FranckMartin]

While there is Atmos in Logic, there is no support for it in FCP. Will we get a new version to help produce content for the Vision Pro?

[@iamericlenz]

Agreed. Logic has many great stuff I'd love to see in FCP. But for the meantime, better roundtrippng between the pro apps would be fantastig.

[@user-yn2od7dl7t]

I want Final Cut Pro Studio. It was really nice to have everything integrated into an accessible program.

[@user-yn2od7dl7t]

I would even take the old version if it would work with the new iOS

[@Coatsey007]

I enjoyed the video, thank you, as an ex-premier pro user, and after that final cut, I astounded that all of you that are far more talented than I am have stuck with final cut given all the valid comments made. I think you’re too invested in the knowledge you’ve learned to move on which is your Achilles heal.

[@iamericlenz]

Glad you enjoyed it! But I do think you have a point. Simultaneously, I think you don’t. In my opinion Final Cut Pro is so different from other NLEs that it’s worth preserving and celebrating.

[@Coatsey007]

@@iamericlenz like you, I agree and disagree with myself. I’m pretty crap, but now use da Vinci resolve but accept I’m quicker with Final Cut Pro.

[@maxjax1417]

Final Cut was my go to when it was initially released. Then they targeted their interface to children and at the same time still found a way to make it anti-intuitive. Resolve is essentially the best of all worlds, a post-production workhorse designed by post-production professionals who engineered it based on their needs and preferences. What a concept.

[@my2cents198]

Haha 😂😂😂... resolve can't even fix the gamma shift on export ... what a joke

[@maxjax1417]

I had that problem for sure, put on a simple color space transform, which is good to set anyway, and set the output gamma to Rec 709 A (you can set it in project settings under color management too). The file exactly matches the Resolve window, and just as important, the youtube viewer as well, which is also prone to gamma shifts without this setting, at least for sdr finishing. I was actually too critical of FCP, people should use whatever they prefer, one isn't necessarily better than the other as they all produce great results.@@my2cents198

[@iamericlenz]

I strongly disagree. I take advantage of Final Cut Pro’s simplicity. If you watch the doc to the point where we talk about what and who is professional, you’ll get where I’m coming from.

[@PhillipRPeck]

Jake Felzien keeping it real with DaVinci Resolve open in the background

[@iamericlenz]

He’s the man. What should I say? :D

[@gregoryminton]

Such a great video. Awesome prospectives from all.

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you a lot!

[@matthewTobrien]

So glad I got to be a part of this! You asked some great questions and tied all of our answers together nicely in the edit. Congrats! 👏👏👏

[@iamericlenz]

Matthew, you‘re the man! Thank you so so much for being part of this! :)

[@Hatchi-hu3jn]

I love the ending! So much emotion and everybody did a good job! 👏

[@matthewTobrien]

@@iamericlenzI’m ready for the sequel!!!

[@iamericlenz]

Will we co-edit the next one? :D 👀

[@matthewTobrien]

@@iamericlenz Might have to!!!

[@lavinchi6709]

Very interesting and warm video. I love Final Cut🎉

[@iamericlenz]

Thanks for watching!

[@djh5016]

Excellent job on this!

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@olivermackenzie3250]

I have been editing full time on FCPX for 8 years and I'm not sure I share the same opinions. FCPX has always been inflexible and you need to adapt to it, not the other way around - I don't think this will change any time soon. I didn't feel great about the trajectory of the software pre-summit but I think it's moving in a more positive direction now. In terms of rendering speed, stability, and ease-of-use (once you get used to it) it's still way ahead of any other NLE. For users working on very large projects or in film it's probably lacking a few too many features to be a good first choice, but for everyone else it's usually very viable at the minimum.

[@iamericlenz]

Well said!

[@shobbar1986]

YES !! this move must be taken long time ago .. more pressure !

[@iamericlenz]

Let’s hope for the best!

[@GertKracht]

Final Cut is still a great NLE to edit my videos. But, the roles based mixer + more colours (like Logic has) are my No.1 wish for FCP. It is the only reason why I am spending time learning Fairlight. So happy that is available.

[@iamericlenz]

Exactly. i hope Apple takes care of these house-keeping issues sooner than later. These (except the roles-based mixer) aren’t even features in my opinion. That should be core functionality. Just as renaming my colour grades…

[@denisjones45]

I agree with what everyone mentioned about Apple needing to communicate with the Final Cut Pro community. They can maintain secrecy but should provide us with something to anticipate, giving the community a sense of hope.

[@iamericlenz]

Or at least, play the influencer game as they do with their hardware.

[@mackolb]

Thank you for an important story well-told. I've been an FCP user since FCP Studio 1 and ain't going anywhere.

[@DroseMr]

Awesome🎉Thank You

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you very much! :)

[@matthewpateofficial]

Nice video. I love Final Cut. I saw an amazing sports highlight edit. I asked the editor what software he used and he said Capcut. I really feel like Capcut is the new Davinci in 2024. I would have never guess Capcut could do such an advanced edit. Maybe one day apple will catch up. Until then I think it will just be a great editor that gets the job done and nothing more.

[@iamericlenz]

At the end of the day, a tool is just a tool. But I think CapCut has some compelling features. I really hope Apple keeps up or buys them. 👀

[@BrianHuether]

If one needs to do a lot of masking of a subject (for background replacement) is DaVinci the way to go?

[@iamericlenz]

I’d say so. But you could round-trip, too.

[@BrianHuether]

@@iamericlenz Or is there standalone program best for background removal? So do removal in some program then reimport to FCP.

[@iamericlenz]

There is also a plugin. MRoto and several others. :)

[@JoeCastellon]

To be honest, I can’t even remember what made me switch to DaVinci. I do remember there were things that DaVinci does kind of natively that FCP requires either plugins or workarounds to do. I do sometimes use FCP, especially when needing text titles with fancy animations as FCP is a BEAST in that regard whereas DaVinci slows to a crawl even in M1 Max hardware. The features that keep me using DaVinci even if it is only the free version are: - “automatic” audio ducking for perfect music mixing with talking audio. - Power bins that make it super easy to reuse footage, titles and effects - Fantastic plugins by MrAle Tech and Patrick Stirling just to name a couple.

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you for sharing! Interesting insight!

[@deheiligebron]

The mere thought of Apple discontinuing Final Cut Pro X sends shivers down my spine. It's not just a video editing software; it's been a loyal companion in my creative journey. Losing it would be like losing a trusted friend. Let's hope this is just a nightmare scenario that never comes true. Let 2024 be a great update year for FCPX !! Make us happy Apple, … almost typed make us happle! 😆

[@iamericlenz]

I fully agree. Final Cut Pro is the best thing since sliced bread and I CANNOT switch to a track-based editor. I just can’t.

[@jonlb25]

Great Video. What makes me nervous about FCP is the fact Apple is showing Davinci and Premiere in their Mac Events instead of FCP. I feel like this is Aperture all over again.

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you! Don’t worry about DaVinci being shown. Apple is still a hardware company and they want to get a bigger slices of the prosumers and pros. That’s probably why they show Resolve. Heck, they even showed premiere a couple of times. :D

[@IainAnderson]

The direct word from Apple staff on this is that Apple are happy to show many different creative apps working on an Apple platform; they're not just going to show their own apps. They have also said that this is *not* like Aperture, in response to a direct question at the FCP Creative Summit. FCP is safe.

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you, Iain. Richard told be about the summit and it sounded promising!

[@Qwackers-video]

I watched a video recently showing how an Apple keynote was filmed entirely on iPhone 15, what was a surprise was that the editing wasn’t done in FCP it was done in Davinci Resolve

[@AuthenTech]

Man my professional life is forever grateful to FCP. It makes me so fast and efficient at cranking through mass quantity of videos over the years. I really hope Apple doesn’t give up on it. 🙏

[@iamericlenz]

I hope so, too! FCP for the iPad is a great sign and as Richard said in the chat, the Final Cut Pro team said, that they have plans for the next 5-6 years!

[@Brad_West]

I feel the same way! I can’t see myself being any faster in any other NLE than I am in FCP right now 🙌🏼

[@aapillusions]

I spent 33 years in corporate America directly supporting leadership at the Office Of The Chairman on down. Per Matthews comment, you can be secretive about your product development while at the same time providing a 'roadmap for the future' on what to expect over the next 3 to 5 year time horizon based on current strategic plans. To be honest, I think FCP is nothing more than a minor tick on the revenue stream so it will never get the kind of support that the community wants until the community either grows and/or become more vocal.

[@travisreed5965]

Powerfully True - Well Done Cheers

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you! :)

[@wmccinema]

FCP footage stabilization is SUPERIOR compared to premiere pros warp stabilizer

[@jroar123]

I use an old Mac Pro with an Asus graphics card, 48 gig ram and a fast ssd card for the OS. Final Cut Pro works just as I need it on my Frankintosh.

[@greinalexandra]

well done, thx for that

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you very much! :)

[@keller2279]

Great work! I share so many of the same opinions in this. AI tech has come so far in the last year, I'd love for FCPX to get a lot more AI tools, but it seems like they aren't even trying. The last thing that wow-ed me was the AI vocal isolator (it still seems like magic to me), but there hasn't been any AI updates since then, and meanwhile the rest of the world is going crazy with it. I still love the software, but am getting nervous its going to be left in the dust.

[@iamericlenz]

I agree. THink about all the unused neural engine cores in Apple Silicon machines. But I do think Apple has a master-plan for that, though.

[@edanbenatar]

Good work! 💪

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you very much!

[@CScott4k]

Amazing video!

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you so much!

[@ninoYT12]

AMAZING VIDEO!❤

[@iamericlenz]

Thank you!!

[@elgrau]

How about a "replace footage" option....

[@KaseyAtkins]

Great little Mini-doc. I agree whole heartedly with the sentiments and concerns here. Final Cut Pro X was and still is the ONLY official certification I got in anything. I saw the value in being able to create at the speed of thought. Curious to see Apples next phases with Final Cut.

[@iamericlenz]

Totally agree. Let's see what comes next. I think the scrolling timeline is a step in the right direction. They've heard us, so to speak. :)

[@kaiservisuals]

Thanks for creating this.

[@iamericlenz]

Glad you liked it!

[@camcamwatt]

Very cool and relvant - love and watch all those creators... I started on FCPX 7 years ago I am in Sydney Australia. I still use it for fast content however for alot of my projects my team use PP or DR.. I hate PP = I request most of my projects to be cut and graded in DR... There is no doubt there is a huge amount more creative latitude in DR and as a pro that charges over $100k for one 30 second video we always need to push the limits for our clients