Cutting Every Corner: Analyzing BHVR's Sloppiest Release

[@darkron288]

Forged in fog was not the "Worst chapter" in dbd, the binding of kin was fundamentally broken at launch to the point where the game was unplayable, and tools of torment brought the worst killer in the game that was so BAD she needed a partial rework in the same YEAR she came out. And then there is the frankly disingenuous claims in this video of "the knight's perks made the whole community talk about balance" and "nowhere to hide is unhealthy". Let's talk about the first one,no the community wasn't discussing perk balance, the only people that were are the same survivor mains who throw a hissy fit when ever a killer releases with slightly strong perks, the same people who geuinely think lightborn is unhealthy for the game. And then there is the no where to hide thing, nowhere to hide is NOT unhealthy, its a aura reading perk, it doesnt' win games for you, it doesn't make you better at the game it just helps you find survivors, tis only arguebly unhealthy when you pair it up with gen regression, but at that point its old star struck nurse, where the perk is NOT unhealthy but you pair it up with stuff that is unhealthy it becomes unhealthy. Forged is fog is not the worst chapter nor is it the best it is perfectly serviceable

[@Nythand]

What i wish to see 1. potential energy no longer loses progress on hit, max 15% progress 2. quick gambit gives 8% gen speed when you are working on a gen while someone is being chased within 30m. 3. Hubris- when pallet stunned the next pallet that would stun you does not. not the most creative, but hey at least they are useable and non-toxic now.

[@tylerrassi4148]

Really great video, honestly! Very entertaining and a damn shame this video didn't do better. Definitely earned my sub. There is two small things i personally disagreed with. First, i actually never had a problem with Nowhere To Hide as someone who plays both sides I like that it gave a reason to kick a gen besides regressing it and that it'd counter the rat survivors that walk away from the generator and hide the moment they hear your terror radius then hop back on the moment you go away. It got you immediately back into the chases and i absolutely loved that. Yes it released in the peak of gen kick simulator but they had so many other stronger regression perks at that time so its at the very least the lesser of 2 evils! You had old Pain Resonance, Jolt, old Pop Goes The Weasel, old Overcharge, old Call of Brine, and old Eruption. If the aura reading bothers ya so much why dont you run that OP perk Distortion (JK 😉). Second, I actually really liked Potential Energy. I found it helpful in storing proggress from one generator to another. I even used it with old Deja Vu to break 3 gens early on. I found it to be engaging and made me feel like i was outsmarting the killer and their brain dead strategy. Other survivors would harras the 3 gen stopping as much regression as possible then BAM! Big chunk of progress which was often enough to complete it! I continued to use this perk all the way up till the end of Skull Merchant's reign of terror. That being said I think it should still be stronger. Personally, heres what I'd do to buff it. Let me know your thoughts. "(X)" is a undefined value since i don't want anyone getting caught up on specific numbers which are easy to change. I'd rather the focus be on the balance change. (X) more energy is earned in (X) less seconds and can store (X) more energy overall. Now only (X)% of stacks are lost when injured or all stacks are lost when downed instead of injured. Each stack provides (X) more proggress to a generator.

[@hayki-daki7653]

Hi, it was a great video thank you for it! But i would like to add some other problems with this chapter release: 1) bugs. Tons of bugs. The Knight's power was unusable buggy mess, and i can also remember those little prompts near loops survivors were able to go through, but killer wasn't 2) Vittorion was released only to sell cosmetics. I remember those dbd tweets where Vittorio was like in a dating app. He was intentionally made to be hot (and i have to admit they did a good job) so people would buy cosmetics for him. On release bhvr gave him 2 SHIRTLESS COSMETICS and he received a full wardrobe af cosmetics in a short period of time, making even feng an legion jealous. People didn't like that. They wanted cool medieval dude, not fckn add to cosmetics 3) bhvr somehow nerfed this game's lore. I can recommend watching pixelbush's video for the whole picture, but shortly behavior now create tome lore for just released character, making their original stories not full in some ways (tho Knight and Vittorio were exceptions) and also blocking the way for old character without tome lore to get one, like Deathslinger And that is a shame. This chapter had a lot of potential. And i would have hated it, if Knight didn' plung his claymore deep into my heart, giving me the amount of fun, no other killer does.

[@jessechuu]

Not one sane person would use Quick Gambit. Killers would easily break chase once they notice the Gen Jockey. Other than that perk, I still rarely see the other two. Now Knight… SHYYT, His perks are still *chefs kiss* stupendous. (( Drop that Knight to Red gameplay dough ))

[@Cfizzle83]

Speaking as a "gen jockey" I wholeheartedly agree

[@antmsurvivorpokemon1]

Knight is literally trash design wise

[@iliketea4443]

I've seen many one try to make use of it. Let's just say it usually got both of us killed cuz the killer simply swipswapped chase and got a Double down/injury

[@iliketea4443]

​@@antmsurvivorpokemon1nah. He has flaws but his DESIGN isn't bad. The game design is lacking, but there has been worse (xenomorph&Twins&PTB Spirit), VFX Design is peak.

[@freezerounds]

It's *only* theoretical use is in indoor maps where the generator being worked on is above/below you. Even then, the returns are hardly worth it (also good luck coordinating that in solo queue).

[@Ghostcrackerss]

Surprised this video doesn’t have more views, a lot of effort into this

[@goodbyed0m]

thank you so much!

[@MissChambersxo]

I’m watching video because you brought it up! And I have to say… yes this chapter SUCKED, the only thing I like about it is nowhere to hide letting me line dashes as Wesker. I don’t care about the survivor being mid, and I never play knight and rarely play survivor so I only had the misery of playing against him a few times… but Borgo genuinely makes me want to throw up, why is it so red, why was it so fucking survivor sided for so long with like 30 safe pallets, why is the collision so bad, why is it so cluttered?!!? And the stupid fat shaming spots they added with this patch too, ughhh

[@blecis74]

Might be an unpopular opinion but I really like this chapter, when I first started playing DBD I always thought it would be cool to have a Knight killer as well as a perk that revealed survivors when kicking a gen both of which came with the chapter. Despite me liking the chapter there are somethings I don’t like that being the original version of Borgo and Vittorio not having medieval outfits.

[@FalloutWastelander121]

I think of perks like hubris less like rewarding the killer and more like punishing the survivor.

[@4Rys454]

Me leaving my two cents that nobody asked lmao. I honestly don't see Forged in Fog as BHVR's worst release. It introduced a killer that, sure, can be annoying for some people, but the idea of the Knight having 3 companions alone made everyone hype up with this killer, and sure, while it's not thematic that a KNIGHT is a crowd control type of killer, I still think his power is very fun (And I say this being a filthy survivor main only, as I don't enjoy playing Killer at all.) Knight releaseed with some interesting perks and Vittorio, despite being the cash grab he is and all the wasted potential of actually having a character from the past in the game just to be dressed up in modern fashion (and also being designed as a DILF because behiaviour now has that weird trend with characters.) Vittorio still released with some interesting perks. I love the concept of Potential Energy, Fogwise is simple but can be good and paired with niche builds with like Stake Out can be fun, and Quick Gambit, while downad terriblle, still managed to leave an impression in my mind for its use. Imagine if instead of being 8% more effective it was like 80%. This would literally force the killer to have a mental discussion on wether he keeps chasing the survivor or drops chase and kicks the nearest gen out of precaussion (Hence its name.). I still really liked a lot of the content from this chapter. In my opinion. The most terrible release we've ever had in this game is Trails of Torment. I can't figure to comprehend how this chapter was released with anyone just waiting for a second to think out loud of its content. Skull Merchant, absolute worst killer in the game, not only meta wise, but thematically, storywise, design. I only see her perks being a "saving grace" for her, which is not even that good since they didn't even fit her kit at all. Not only that, I'm sorry, but we also got two survivors that are just the most underwhelming addition to this game ever. In this chapter we got the now LEAST picked perk in the whole game, Teamwork: Collective Stealth. An Exhaustion perk that got completely reworked from its initial concept (remember that? Background Player used to trigger after unhook, not the killier picking up a survivor.) and Bloodrush's concept is fantastic, it working as a double edged sword! a high risk high reward idea to make or break out of the game... except it's actually trash... as your are better off just using Overcome... And I didn't even talk about Thalita's perks because... I mean, have you ever seen anyone use Friendly Competition? or any or Power of Two? Cut Loose was interesting, but serves no real purpose. Just everything in this chapter was... terrible. Fun ideas at best, but none stand out one bit. And honestly, Skull Merchant being fully reworked is what settles it for me. BHVR released a chapter so bad that they had to rework the character to the core. This chapter has no sympathy for me and this game has been on a long descending trail for me ever since... End Transmission was great, but of course it would be, it was the anniversary chapter... the rest of the year had been so bleak for me...

[@ghostflame9211]

i was just thinking this. how was forged in fog considered the worst release when trails of torment is right there lol

[@GoldenDeer_]

Prove you can read by saying the chapter correctly as Tools of Torment and not Trails of Torment and then maybe your opinion will make sense

[@4Rys454]

@@GoldenDeer_ "Cool thing bro, but one grammatical error disproves your entire arguement, leave the multimillion company alone" vibes here. Go play VHS dickweed.

[@bluesnake8735]

Forge in the fog is one of the best chapters, a chaper so good as make me start again playing the game and this is why: The killer design is so cool and you really feal like you are playing a knight: No were to hide is every healthy, because are so many surv that hide close to gens, if i kick the game and leave because i don't find anyone i just lose time bacause he will undo my kick after i leave, Hubris is a very week peark by his own, you have to combine with spirit fury and Enduring and guss what is not a strong build, is just fun, Hex: Face the Darkness is a interesting peark but he need a little bit of help, And the killer power is every unique and fun were is really works, the surv design is cool to, but hes pearks need a little help to, the map is cool to buttt is to surv side so idk why you said the surv and the killer team hate this map. Fight me.

[@Cfizzle83]

Another great video Dom. Keep up the good work and look forward to the next one

[@BouncingTribbles]

If knight wasn't just a big bug in full plate I'd probably main him. As my introductory chapter to the game it's long term health is really disappointing. Quick gambit especially, lol, though I'll admit since I've been running a stakeout build I've been repairing in the terror radius a lot more. Even so, I can't imagine holding for the gambit, it's entirely based on how aware and willing to switch targets the killer is. It's hilarious watching a killer chase right past you, but the next Wesker might not just wave as he runs past. Great video.

[@rockyroland5808]

the worst thing about the Knight is that his power is borrowing code from Spirit, and thus resulting in major spaghetti code bugs where the knight's power is clunky to use and has him teleporting back and forth every time he uses his power

[@DoroNijimaru]

9:05 no no no, you're mistaken, they'll have gotten 66% of the progress they would have gotten if they didn't use the perk at all. the perk eats a third of what you repair at any time you're charging it.

[@goodbyed0m]

LMAO i didn’t even think about that 😅

[@annareifer2249]

uhhh I love the map... but a castle map would be also cool... also I love Vittorio and the Knight, fantastic lore, cool design (Vittorio needs more medieval cosmetics... and a less buff boddy)

[@TheReZisTLust]

Isnt the gen survivor better then nowhere since they have access to a perk that makes it literally useless?

[@deadeye851]

Don't have a problem with Knight's map. Don't like the idea of perk effects 'rewarding' you, I think of perks as crutches, everyone has them and you pick your own to cope with it. Chapter name style isn't important but I get it. Agree more or less with the rest.

[@joistick_]

I went into this video thinking I was going to get read to filth for being a Vittorio stan...I can breathe easy today (also a Knight ash to red video would be pretty cool)

[@goodbyed0m]

oh im still judgin bro trust :)

[@alpitu21]

i can't focus on anything but how hot this guy is holy

[@Lunalex_Fan]

My favorite map is borgo

[@currentdeadbydaylightplayer]

I mean at least freddys finally gonna be fun

[@maikohfahuldust9231]

I agree mostly but quick gamblet is not as bad as people say. Its not the best perk at all but you don't need to be on a gen. Its a 24 meter range. So if i know were the gen is at fully with troubleshooter. I can keep the killer in a safe spot in that 24 meter range. The killer does not know unless they have tinker and they have the buff. So no its not as bad as peoole say but there is better perks.

[@goodbyed0m]

if the killer is not brand new, they will not only hear the gen progress, but specifically the crank sounds of the gen being actively worked on. using 50% of your perk slots (TS and QG) while also hoping your killer isnt wearing headphones is not a well designed perk.

[@iliketea4443]

​@@goodbyed0mexactly. As a killer main, that's a free Double down/injury :D

[@typervader]

I still think Twins was worse, cause their launch was straight up buggy, bad in every way. AT least knight wasnt buggy

[@goodbyed0m]

see when i was deciding which chapter to do for this video, i chose FIF bc this release was clearly very thought out and much more polished than BOK, but somehow it was nothing but awful for the games health. it blows my mind how shortsighted their decisions were for FIF.

[@typervader]

Thats fair @@goodbyed0m

[@shonneal]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO

[@goodbyed0m]

MY GOAT

[@kingjuice2468]

🌲🌲🌲

[@jessechuu]

🌲

[@Icole-cv4px]

🌲

[@CinnaGrim01]

I'm sorry, but I stopped paying for a bit there because your voice is very charming.

[@DoroNijimaru]

attention?

[@thenegativoneify]

I dont hate the map..why do u

[@goodbyed0m]

the idea of “fake tiles” just created giants deadzones with no connecting tiles anywhere in sight.

[@DoroNijimaru]

because scratch marks 💢 already called the color red

[@DanielC0005]

Face the darkness is just meh, on its own it’s kinda weak and if you waste another 2 perk slots on undying and thrill you don’t even have a build

[@TheReZisTLust]

Isnt the gen survivor better then nowhere since they have access to a perk that makes it literally useless?

[@goodbyed0m]

if you are asking if nowhere to hide is worse than potential because distortion exists? no. objectively, absolutely not lol

[@TheReZisTLust]

@@goodbyed0m ah thts a shame