CUTTING STEEL WITH A 3D PRINTED CNC

[@westenkey9532]

I’m doing mechanical engineering because of you Ivan thank you for the inspiration

[@ivanmirandawastaken]

Yessss!!!!

[@BritalianChap75]

Good luck brother ✌🏼

[@ishankusuma8630]

@@ivanmirandawastaken i love what you and all the diy youtubers do. i am 14 and work from people like you, the hacksmith, the king of random, and many others have really inspired me. in fact i am currently working on building a 3d printer like the one you made but smaller and in a corexy format. i also love to watch your videos

[@ishankusuma8630]

@@ivanmirandawastaken Also ivan. watch out with the geared steppers. they tend to have a bit of backlash. a pulley system might work better.

[@RomanoPRODUCTION]

We will need to find a brothel to occupy all of us at once. Cool! Brothers in steel.

[@jonascreyns9595]

This man deserves a lot more than 200k subscribers. You can see that he puts a lot of time into making his vids and he reads every comment. Love your work

[@ivanmirandawastaken]

I try my best, thanks!!

[@PascalVos]

agreed

[@ualdayan]

@@ivanmirandawastaken I've been watching, but apparently hadn't subbed. Ok, I've done it now. : )

[@allisteropenshaw6023]

@@ivanmirandawastaken Excellent channel you have here and im really impressed with your work !! Bravo !! I want to purchase your plans but just have a question. Can i scale this CNC up to work with a full sheet of plywood - ± 2.5m x 1.3m

[@joachim1973]

well i guess he will get to this point pretty fast, since he grew so much last time, but i agree, he really deserves it

[@darkwinter6028]

You’re starting to get into milling machine territory... you should probably read up on how the big machines do things; with an eye for ideas that can be applied to your machine. Minimum Quantity Lubrication is the first thing that comes to mind; and as you’re going to be needing to run wet (well, damp) I’d also look into replacing the base board that the machine is mounted to with something waterproof (an aluminum tooling plate would be best; but a good-quality laminate countertop section would do). Onto that base you would mount the sacrificial backing boards. T-slot extrusions and T-bolts are used commonly in woodworking setups for holding stuff to the table; and have a variety of clamps available off-the-shelf. Larger versions of this are commonly used on milling machines; but they would be to large to fit under your gantry rails. Chatter and surface finish will improve with increased machine rigidity; and the thing that jumps out the most as a weak spot (other than the fact that it’s 3D printed; not cast iron, but there’s not much to be done about that) is the long unrestrained beam sections. I suggest cross-coupling them to form trusses. The other thing that occurs to me is that you might look into what’s called “epoxy-granite”. Basically, it’s a mix of sand, fine crushed rock, and epoxy; and it sets up to resemble synthetic quartz countertops - reasonably strong, hard, doesn’t warp or crack like Portland cement based concrete does, and has good damping characteristics. You could fill the machine frame beams with it; as well as filling 3D printed parts or 3D printing molds to cast it in. Just do take appropriate precautions with the sand & epoxy - not getting it on your skin is kinda obvious; but you really don’t want to breathe silica sand dust because it gets in your lungs and obstructs oxygen absorption, and being basically inert, it stays there forever. Gloves and a respirator rated for sanding (such as is available at your local DIY center) will take care of both issues. Hardinge was using their version of this for their high-end tool room lathes frames a few years back... 🤔

[@Thorhian]

And Kern uses Epoxy Granite/Polymer Concrete for their machine bases as well.

[@ameliabuns4058]

This is all cool thanks for commenting

[@MarkProffitt]

*IDEA* Use first 3D printed version to slowly make aluminum parts to upgrade the CNC.

[@orlanino]

Or to make a robot that will construct the CNC - New Generation using Machine Learning.😎

[@pintokitkat]

I too used to pull router bits out of their case by holding the cutting surfaces, until the day the bit jammed in the case. I don't do it any longer. BLOOD!

[@kendallemory8455]

At least I'm not the only one to do that.

[@MakeOn]

For me it was a 1/4" flush cut bit a few years ago. My right index finger wasn't happy at all about my decision...

[@Bishop0178]

Just last week. It happens more often than one would like to admit.

[@mpikas]

Somehow I managed to learn that lesson 2x :-/

[@ThunderPantz01]

@@mpikas LOL

[@AbulAlArabi07]

Whenever I feel down being an engineer, I just visit your channel. I have now 3D printer, cnc and especially Red Filaments. The Red filament reminds me of you ❤️

[@alldecentnamestaken]

Store: "How much red filament would you like?" Ivan: "Yes"

[@Volt64bolt]

He has a deal with a supplier

[@greengate3d]

@@Volt64bolt He should have one with us! :-) C'mon Ivan, let's talk!

[@tobins6800]

easy formula for that.... where n = your supply... n + 1 = my request

[@ThunderPantz01]

LMAO. Right?

[@MrWinterhater]

I came home today feeling tired and rundown. My mood wasn't a good one. Then I hear "SPACERRrrrrrrrrs!" and I smiled. Thank you, Ivan.

[@Volt64bolt]

MrWinterhater why was he in your house!?

[@TheMugrad2002]

I started on this rabbit hole looking for MPCNC, and ended up looking at this monster. Subscribed!!!

[@pyro1596]

that has to be the best 3D printed CNC router I have ever seen. Any other one always had issues of wobble due to lack of rigidity with the belts

[@StevenIngram]

You know what I like about your channel? It surprises and impresses me again and again with what you're able to accomplish with 3D printing and off the shelf components and materials. I mean, from an outside perspective, it genuinely looks like your shop has been "self-upgrading" for a few years now. And heck, now that you can can cut steel plates - if you had the time and desire you could probably now build a tank that could withstand mid caliber gunfire. LOL

[@aloowakp]

The model you sell - does it include the list of all hardware required and a "how to make it work for dummies" guide?

[@Volt64bolt]

aloowakp yes, excluding the dummies guide, it’s just a normal one I think? Don’t quote me on that though

[@glimps84]

@@Volt64bolt yeah not for dummy. So couple things, the BOM is not quite up to date with this video (belts are still GT2 for example). I wouldn't recommend this being your first build. Get used to building 3D printer kits maybe before. You need basic understanding of motion systems to make sense of it all. Don't misunderstand me, it's on the higher end of build instructions out there, juste not very beginner friendly.

[@oELxTOROo]

Marc Boivin yes, I just purchased it, and even the video linked at the top of the documentation instructions for what video to use to build the machine, I believe, is wrong, as it links to building the 3d printer?

[@glimps84]

@@oELxTOROo It would be nice to get a GitHub link to contribute when we buy the kit. I think it's a pretty nice kit for thinkerers and is way more capable then a V1 or a low rider. But yeah, still some quirks here and there

[@letsbuildthis]

Ivan, Nice design!! On your plans on your site, is that for this updated version? Can you include more details there about steppers, router, belts, etc? Also what are you using to control this?

[@pnwscitech1589]

I'm a simple man, I see Ivan upload, I click.

[@Volt64bolt]

PNW SciTech I’m a simple person, I see trash comment , I reply in same format

[@DMonZ1988]

seriously amazing Ivan! there are some awesome design features but i would not have imagined the machine would end up this capable. its really a serious, versatile machine to let you cut some steel. extremely impressive! great work!

[@DMonZ1988]

what were the speeds and feeds for steel please btw?

[@ivanmirandawastaken]

Yes!! Thanks!!

[@ivanmirandawastaken]

200 mm/min 0.1 mm downspiral not sure abut RPM but slow around 10000

[@DMonZ1988]

@@ivanmirandawastaken ok, awesome! its not fast but the result is really clean. 45 minutes for something nice that i could NEVER do otherwise is pretty good right? very nice man! my mind is blown. i've been designing my own budget cnc too but i don't think i can do better (/or anywhere near as good). i'll try first but then i'll buy your plans :-P thanks dude!

[@canadianadvancedsk8]

you can use your machine to make alluminum parts to replace the 3d printed parts to make it even more rigid .

[@jmtx.]

It's so amazing that the upgrade gave so much metal cutting capabilities! What was the steel's speeds and feeds? Looking forward to projects involving this awesome cutter!

[@RetroSpekt]

The steel montage song is goodtimeswithscars building music lol

[@KX36]

nah, its darude sandstorm

[@greengate3d]

Whatever it is, I'm diggin' it!

[@jonvannatto]

x2 on Goodtimeswithsar's time lapse music.

[@okIahsam]

A 19x faster result is awesome! It must feel incredible to see one of those parts get cut in under 2 minutes when they used to take over half an hour!

[@PascalVos]

Ivan for president!!!! Love your video's your attitude and excitement. Spacers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@stevelandry9368]

Thank you soo much for the research and development that went into this project. You have opened another door for do it yourself type folks with limited resources. Looking forward to purchasing your files this week :)

[@Gnoarnx]

So now you have it upgraded very well. Now you can multi operation fixtures to mill parts. ie convert the 3d printed parts into aluminum or steel parts.

[@frackcha]

Ivan, I think you should work this CNC mill hard and fast. When something breaks, fix it but then make that part from metal with the mill, replace the part and then work it hard again, and repeat. Pretty soon you will have a very strong milling machine. Great project, great video. Thank you!

[@lilypower]

Oh man! I really start to get the itch again! Sold my laser a couple months ago and miss my CNC machines a lot! I do have 3D printers (2x Tevo Tornados) but I miss the speed of subtractive manufacturing! I really love cad and the silence and independence of 3dprinters

[@lilypower]

Hmmm, might be time to build one again!

[@squirrelrobotics]

This is probably a question that gets asked a lot, but around how much does it cost to build, and will there be plans released?

[@JDLeeArt]

I hope when this is complete plans and parts list. This is fantastic.

[@McCarthyisms]

Love you're accent, took some getting use to but now I want it too👍

[@ivanmirandawastaken]

Yeah!

[@bolty1131]

El acento español es indistinguible jaja

[@coffinsnail6930]

Very cool but dang ya put out the plans after i ordered a longmill lol. Recomend if ya cut any metal even aluminum ya use cutting/tapping oil not wd40. While wd can help lube some it does not like heat and heat kills cutters fast. A cutting lube is designed to keep things cooler while lubing.

[@theclintified]

I really like your design, I made one back before 3d printers and now I'm thinking I might need to utilize my 3d printer to redesign my old cnc. That 3d printer your using must have a huge build plate! Great video!

[@rubixrj7074]

Awesome! Now add a laser diode head too

[@santinomercuri5231]

hello Ivan can you tell me how much is the work surface of the machine? also in the file that I buy I find, stl for printing components and components list? after purchase, can you give me mounting support? thank you

[@sallerc]

Ivan, make sure to add all the CNC-videos to the CNC playlist (only 3 of them there right now).

[@romansholyak2332]

Frame stiffness is good - but work holding is also critical as you can brake a tool . Using only 4 screws for whole ALU plate (especially not so flate) is not enough . As you can see on some cuts - material goes up during cutting. As the result you can cut more deep and brake the tool - 1 flute end mill a not so stiff. ( especially on a belt's). Use some additional holders near cutting edge - there will less rubbing also .

[@robertorica9945]

Amazing!! It's incredible the machines that it is possible to make by ourselves!! Thanks for showing us

[@sfahadrizvi]

Damn you Ivan, just 10 minutes ago i decided to buy a cnc cheap one just to test it. Now I have first complete my (large) 3d printer and then make a 3d printed cnc. :)

[@MegaTraxxas]

The result is pretty good

[@colinmj.jalbert5436]

These videos are an inspiration. I hope this channel and the maker continue on this great path.

[@taantricks]

Packed video with so much to learn.. awesome as always..

[@ivanmirandawastaken]

Thanks!

[@dahaniffer]

you need to ad an auto oiler for the steel and that will be amazing

[@xandersnyder7214]

Ivan, your videos are always an inspiration, and your taste in music is great 😀. I'll be picking up the plans for your CNC shortly. Your enthusiasm and positivity are inspirational!

[@serhio000serh9]

Well done, Cool update !

[@misteragb7558]

What are the costs? I think the mpcnc provides better value to me personally

[@bassamsherif7785]

Bro can you share spindle details ?watts rpm etc

[@FullMetalFox2]

Belt stretch isn't the biggest issue with belt-driven CNCs running high cutting force operations, but the backlash in the steppers themselves, even with gears there is some. Thou those motors and belts probably help to get to a point where its hard to tell if its the Kinematics or 3D Printed parts that deflect from the cutting forces. If you ever want to build a larger more stiff machine, then get some Ballscrews, they give you the most bang for your buck compared to old systems like gear tracks with worm drives etc. And if you ever want to upgrade that router, since you're in the EU you could get an AMB 1050 FME-P, lightweight german made spindle for small machines with an ER16 Collet system. I'm using it on my own CNC since I was unhappy with the Makita Router and Chinese Spindle I had.

[@welbot]

So many tests!!! Seems all that repetitive action may have left you feeling a bit robotic!!!! Welcome to the bot side!! \m/ Some seriously clean results from the cuts though!! Amazing stuff! :)

[@tiemanowo]

Nema17 motors on CNC this size? Whoo. That's Bold! ;)

[@AeromatterYT]

This is crazy! You deserve so much more attention in the maker community!!

[@sagelikea6130]

Great build! Do you think think this could cut or shape 3/8" or 1/2" steel (albeit very slowly)? Also, would carbon fibre components have worked as good as or almost as good as aluminum?

[@EchoS1x]

Very cool Ivan!!

[@sinformant]

Just a thought, if you want precision, strength, and longevity, you may want to eventually switch over to ball screws. They aren't cheap, but they will work and work well.

[@spamspasm8183]

Wow that was a lot of tests! That's gotta be at least 3 tests.

[@ivanmirandawastaken]

Maybe 4, I haven't had the time to count them

[@Henchman1977]

Those belt anchors will be a problem I think without some sort of way to clamp the belt...

[@brodybrown157]

Have you thought of using ball screws to control the axis instead of belts? If I'm not mistaken this would help with accuracy and maybe even some structural rigidity?

[@DougInParadise]

If you get the plans updated with these upgrades I will buy a set for sure.

[@MrLexhoya]

Where would a project be without ... SPACERS :) Awesome project once again

[@lukasjandik6444]

Is the CNC model on your store workshop adjusted for the more powerful belt and steppers?

[@bensneller5797]

10:41 any scar fans here?

[@replaceitem]

oh boy indeed

[@GaleRazorwind]

Entering super slow cut mode

[@damic.489]

Que bonito ❤ Si le acoplas a la máquina CNC un MIG-100 e imprimes en acero eres mi héroe.

[@AmauryJacquot]

you should try using blue painters' tape on both sides with superglue in between as a way to attach your steel plate

[@steefant]

the belt stretchers are nice, but why not switch nut and head (head away from the belt, nut in the belt holder) so that the part with the belt can be made stronger with 4 walls instead of 3 because the bolt does not need to be inserted from the side? cf. 5:57

[@v1p3rx]

New he can make spacers out of aluminum and steel Woot!!

[@ivanmirandawastaken]

#SteelSpacers!!!

[@bigoper]

Great video/project as always!!! How about sharing some details/specs of the motor/belts? Thanks, and keep creating :)

[@paco3447]

Nice! Though, I think you must update with a good spindle, servos (better than steppers) and state of the art linear rails. Course you also need a proper coolant system with an optimal plate ready for vises, vacuum fixtures, etc.

[@Anyone700]

VERY Impressive. You really get the most out of the materials you use. I have a stash of HNBR GF reinforced HTD 5M belts and pulleys that set me back a few hundred dollars. I am seriously considering making one of these.

[@Bandit.Designs.Videos]

How thick was the wall on the steal tube. I want to try it on my CnC. With the 2.2kw spindle and all steel and heavy aluminum construction it should work well.

[@garagemonkeysan]

Great video and project build. Nice to see you get into CNC routing. Mahalo for sharing! : )

[@symik3]

Impressive result.

[@bjsteg79]

Ivan, thank you very much for staying dedicated to your channel and creating amazing content. You truly are inspiring people to learn & do more than sit and watch videos in their free time. Today was a fortunate day and your video was suggested to me. Now I want to make my own CNC! Any plans to use your 3D printed one to make aluminum upgrade parts? Seems like the natural evolution of things, use better tools to make better parts for better tools :) You probably won't stop until you have a 6 axis CNC :)

[@jonathansandiford4137]

and he did his name like a boss. brilliant!

[@The_Joker_]

1984 - “Some day soon we will be able to pluck machines from the clouds” 2020 - “That’s so yesterday”.

[@chasgiv4]

AMAZING!!!! Great job Ivan! Love your work!

[@jonnafry]

Great results Ivan , really like your sound tracks too!

[@mitchellrife5220]

You are doing an awesome job Ivan!!!! I love your channel!

[@weirdboyjim]

That’s great Ivan!

[@herikcustodio5389]

Amazing project Ivan!!!

[@visualinspections6593]

Simply beautiful !

[@randominternetviewer166]

Use threaded rods on all axis and nema 32 motors. That will help u sleep at night knowing it will be reliable.

[@PS-nf3xw]

So, you are saying I can download it an build it myself? (What was the total cost again?)

[@gregarmstrong4653]

muy buena - very good as my friend Joaquim Garcia used to say. I can hardly beleive my eyes when it cuts steel !

[@cubedude76]

try a 3 flute end mill you should be able to go about 3 times faster than a 1 flute end mill for aluminum

[@sk8drinker]

An idea for a future build, make a bot with solar panel and autopilot, and send it very very far, I'm from marseille in france, i can confirm the receipt if you program it to go in Marseille (or near of Marseille). you'll need a GPS tracker to be able to know where and when it will arrive. Anyway, good job dude for your channel and work

[@PaganWizard]

I noticed that your 3D printed parts have dark scorch or burn marks on them, and you even said that the stepper motors were actually melting some of the 3D printed pieces. Now that you have your CNC dialed in, and a lot more stable, maybe try milling some aluminum parts to replace the 3D printed parts. This will give you even more stability, AND.......your parts won't melt.

[@RG-gk4yi]

The router is variable speed. What speed are you running it at?

[@projectstopicsandelectroni1756]

What is the minimum bed size needed to print all the of the plastic components?

[@whynot4419]

You deserve more

[@75keg75]

Ivan, I’m currently watching your back catalogue (upto the 4th tank atm). I haven’t read any other comments to see if you’ve answered (you may have addressed already in recent videos) Just curious why you haven’t made a filament recovery machine to grind up your waste parts to create pellets and then create (or buy) a filament extruder and make a project out of it? The recycled/ remade filament could be used for early iterations of projects, so you’re not wasting good filament on early prototype parts. Just an idea....

[@Hyser0510]

Hey, Ivan, why hdd5 belts on the machine and gt2 belts in the motors, the motor will have to handle all the force so it still in the hands of the thin belt, it didn't make no one change no?

[@saddex3d292]

How much money it needs before I buy plans? Aproximately, motors, electronics, etc.

[@gunracksonline]

going to have to try and build your version, does the link plans include the updated parts to cut the metal?

[@ivanmirandawastaken]

Yes! Thanks!

[@gunracksonline]

@@ivanmirandawastaken what is the size of the square aluminum tubing that you used? 25mm or 30mm? Have to see if i can find metric instead of Inch.

[@mattsnowden973]

As usual another fantastic Spacer video. May have to build myself one of those.

[@leoneventicinque6731]

Here is the real ARTESANO (craftsman) of all time, who makes his own tools and is therefore perfectly capable of modifying them for his evolving needs!

[@coreymac2381]

Great video! It’s always fun to see what you are going to create next.

[@OldCurmudgeon3DP]

Holy cow, Ivan. Once again you've raised the bar with your videos. Need to see if my printer is big enough to handle those brackets. Going to be close if they fit. Edit: ugh, missed it by 15mm. Maybe if I angle the parts 'just so'.... 😅 Next thing you know, Ivan will debut a Plasma CNC.

[@AhikamNaor]

What is the size of the biggest part to print?

[@daves.software]

Wouldn't the backlash in the gearset cause problems with the accuracy of your cuts? Or does the gearset have some sort of pre-loading?

[@cynstan]

I dont think he's necessarily worried about tolerances but thats just me. There's tons of tabbing on that part when he pulls it out

[@atelier_Vosgien]

Bonsoir , est ce possible d'avoir les liens pour les courroies et les poulies s'il vous plait ?

[@MrCparker76]

I know this is a long shot but can I get a part number on the stepper motor with the gear reduction. I purchased your plans and am in the process of building your CNC as I type.

[@ТимофейШамало]

I guess, you need add more mass to spindle head to decrease vibration. It should help to up the speed.

[@EchoS1x]

Ivan, did you use the same stepper drivers?

[@ivanmirandawastaken]

Yes, didn't touch a thing on the electronics side

[@EchoS1x]

Ivan Miranda awesome thanks!

[@paskmoe4969]

Awesome!!! Does the temperature of the steppermotors change with the gear?

[@ivanmirandawastaken]

They have more mass, the motor is further from the 3D printed part and they have to run less time so they are definitely colder (or you can run them at higher currents) Thanks!

[@theflamethrower867]

Can all these 3D printed parts for this CNC be printed on the Prusa mark 3