"CV shortcuts" Part 3. BEMF cutoff" CV10.

[@johnmacdonald6220]

Just hope I can get all your magic to work on my layout whenever I can get back to it. The variety of decoders will be the fun part to tackle. Still renovating the basement. The price of lumber here in Canada is ridiculous. Some types of lumber for building homes and renovating the prices have nearly doubled. Sorry for rambling. Great job Greg looking forward to the next video one and the next one and the .......

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you John! I thought that with all the trees in Canada, wood would not be that expensive? SOme of the CV's are the same across decoders, but you have to check before you start changing values! Cheers Gregg.

[@ianroberts6929]

Gregg, I could've sworn that I'd subbed ages ago but I was wrong - error now rectified! Really enjoying your CV shortcuts, thanks for sharing them. Cheers, Ian

[@FishplateFilms]

No worries Ian..happens to me all the time ! Thanks again for watching and the Sub , and Im glad you enjoy the videos. Cheers Gregg.

[@elsdp-4560]

THANK YOU...for sharing. Enjoying this series very much.

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks for watching as usual:-) Gregg .

[@dennisbailey6067]

Thanks for more handy hints,Gregg.The Soundtraxx channel is also a must watch.The DDE is good for running Trains,but your method is good for driving Trains.

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks Dennis! DDE is a neat function , but it is not able to be consisted, so locos will react differently in a consist, even if they all have DDE, which is a dealbreaker for me:-). Soundtraxx do a great job with their videos and I watch them to compare notes..LOL. Cheers Gregg.

[@lindsaybancroft4629]

Thanks Gregg appreciate your info. I am very new to all this so a long way to go with much to learn. 👍

[@FishplateFilms]

My pleasure Lindsay! Just take a bit at a time and remember to keep a record of the values you adjust! Cheers Gregg.

[@SantaFeBob]

Thank you for taking the time to explain this information to us. I look forward to all of your entertaining and “how to” videos. Cheers.

[@FishplateFilms]

You're welcome Bob! More on the way soon and thanks as usual for the support! Gregg :-)

[@NZR-kf8rk]

Robin. Thanks for the very helpful information and explanations on how CV's work. I'm looking forward to the next series

[@FishplateFilms]

My pleasure! Glad you're enjoying the series and thanks for watching! More on the way soon. Cheers, Gregg.

[@rcjmrl46]

Fantastic series Gregg. Another thing learn't and well delivered. Thanks Gregg.

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks RJ! Glad you are enjoying the series! Gregg :-)

[@keithstamper3648]

This information is good Gregg. Like you I have been installing DCC decoders since the advent of the Tsunami 1000 around 2003 or so. Recently, I installed a few Loksound Decoders for a friend in in his O scale Shays. What a challenge. My own equipment is 100% Tsunami or Econami and I am really happy with performance. I should mention I model in On3 and all my locos are steam hence slightly different parameters for setting up etc.

[@FishplateFilms]

Hi Keith, Thanks for the comments and you've been using Tsunami's for a bit longer than me ..about 2005 I think? Yes steam settings need a very different strategy for most parts. ON3 is a lovely gauge with beautiful locos! Cheers Gregg.

[@gibsonethirty2836]

G'Day Gregg Nicely done again as usual matey. Even though I now no longer use DCC Decoders I do like the SoundTraxx offerings and to get the best out of them is indeed an art form, George will be proud of you! :D

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you Sir! They are a joy to use and a step up from the original, which was a great decoder in itself. George should be paying me to plug his stuff...LOL! Cheers Gregg.

[@keithstamper3648]

I find this comment interesting that you no longer use DCC decoders. What are using instead or did you go back to old regular DC?

[@gibsonethirty2836]

@@keithstamper3648 No, I didn't go back to "Regular DC". I still have a Digitrax powered layout, just all my Loco's don't have DCC Decoder's any more. I use a Product called RailPro, which is a Bi directional RF Transmitter operating in the 2.4GHz range from a company called Ring Engineering. The reason I chose RailPro over plain DCC Decoders is 3 fold. 1 - its an easier interface for the operator to use, so easy my 3y old Daughter can use it with her Dad for some Father Daughter time (She already knows Mums IPhone better than Mum), 2 - It does DPUing far easier and quicker than any other system out there that I know of, all at 3 taps on the screen and it doesn't care what make or model of Loco I choose to do it with, no more pushpullme going on. And Lastly, its not Scale specific. It will run my daughters G Scale train just as easy as my HO Scale Loco's. I know a DCC system can do both scales, but not at the same time. RailPro can. My little girl has 2 Loco's, ones of course is a G Scale, the other is an HO, and guess what, like all little girls she wants to play with both of her trains at the same time! :D

[@brianwebster4858]

Thanks Greg for all this info on cvs, im 83 & find the manuals very complicated you present it in laymans terms & am begining to understand how these Sound decoders work. I have fitted some of my locos with ESU sound decoders so will this info work on those as well as my Tsunami decoders. My Brother lives in Brisbane & I been to see him twice sure is a beaut place I would have like to have met you & had a chat but to late now as my wife & i dont travel anymore. we live on the north east coast of .U.K. Grimsby ....Gday ....Brian

[@FishplateFilms]

Hi Brian, thank you for the comments and I'm glad you enjoy the videos and get some tips from them! A lot of CVs are the same , but just check as you go , some ESU CV's are different. Fancy that , glad you liked Brisbane and enjoyed your visit. I hope to get to the UK soon , so you never know! Cheers Gregg.

[@JoeG-firehousewhiskey]

This is great stuff I'm definitely going to have to look at this video again when I get my layout up and running

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks Joe ! It'll be here ...hopefully! Cheers Gregg.

[@upsd402]

Great video Gregg, I guess I have to change to 128 speed steps, I have been avoiding it like the plague. Thank You for challenging me to more experimental with CV’s. We are supposed to get snow tomorrow, not sure if summer is on vacation. Cheers from CV challenged Terry in Nebraska.

[@FishplateFilms]

If you don't have sound Terry, it is no big deal, but it make as a big difference if you do! Just select ti on your cab..easy peazy!! Cheers Gregg.

[@1johnmcwilliams]

Really enjoying your series Gregg. Looking forward to your next video on speed curves , I have some Intermountain tier 4's coming and looking forward to applying your settings to them. I buy them without sound so can install tsunami decoders. Cheers John.

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks John! I hope the new IM locos have better motors than the original...I believe they do and I am hoping I can get replacements for my 3 early Gevos...that all run like crap..LOL. You'll be an expert once you get your new units! Cheers Gregg.

[@1johnmcwilliams]

@@FishplateFilms thanks Gregg, i already have a UP one and it is very good,extremely heavy and I think it would pull every carriage i own. I am going to try putting 4 sugar cube speakers in one of the new ones and , i will put an i phone speaker in the other. Cheers John.

[@Longshadowsmodeltrees]

Cool Gregg, will try it and play around a bit. It's a difference with Digitrax. Bob

[@MLWQC]

Informative video. Thanks

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks and you're welcome!

[@Lancelot_Jago]

Really enjoyed the info... Loved the outro 😄

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you ! I was losing it by the end..LOL Cheers Gregg.

[@sleepingwithtrains1862]

Thanks for the info, really helping me to understand those "CV"👍

[@FishplateFilms]

You're welcome , and I'm glad you enjoy the series! Cheers Gregg.

[@PaulAFulcher]

Another informative video Gregg nice one mate!!👍👍

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you Paul! Glad you enjoyed it. Gregg.

[@louiscano6566]

Hi Mr Gregg,just going to start my mountain layout,16'×5' double stacked dogbone,what would be the better settings for a prototypical sound,3% grade Im thinking,2-3 headend locos,not sure how many cars to have,thank you for your vids on how to,great stuff ,love ur channel thanks again,cheers

[@FishplateFilms]

Thanks for watching Louis! A 3% grade is a bit steep , but if you are presses for space then thats what you have ? Keep the max speed down so your notches are closer together and most of the other settings will be fine , but make sure to speed match your locos so they work together on those steep grades! I will be dong a speed matching video soon . CHeers Gregg.

[@louiscano6566]

@@FishplateFilms oh ok,yes that's all I have for space,I can reduce it to 2% as I haven't started ,just scaled out the design,24" radius curves,thank you for responding,much appreciated,I'm sure I'll have more questions as I go,chat soon,thank you ,cheers

[@rcjmrl46]

Hi Gregg, I had recently watched the Mid DPU up Helix video again. It got me thinking about at what speed step is BEMF working. I have set my eco's and tsu's BEMF cut-off at CV10 to a value of 50. Taken as a percentage of 1 to 255, it equates to estimate 20%. I wanted to check where my throttle speed step setting was in relation to the BEMF cut-off. Hence i took 20% of 128 speed steps which gave me a speed step of estimate 25. I was just wondering if it would be better to have BEMF active in a DPU train or not considering the sharp end would be slowing down and the mid DPU would be pushing somewhat at the start of a climb.

[@FishplateFilms]

Hi Rj , It is best to have al the locos set the same , as I've found that helps with DPU's.. The "sweet" spot of a train will change depending on the terrain it is travelling over. Having the BEMF cut off as low as possible, helps with power pushing too hard or pulling too hard. If you are controlling the DPU's separately than that is a different matter, but Ive found that properly speed matched locos are the best bet! Cheers Gregg.

[@freightuk]

Hi, I run my DCC system in 28 step mode primarily as many of my locos were made in the 1960s to 1980s and so are not as controllable at low speeds as current models. Question, setting the BEMF cutout for 28 step mode. If the value can be up to 128 does that map proprtionately to 28 step mode. For example if I set the BEMF cutout to 50 does this scale by 28/128 down to 11 ?

[@FishplateFilms]

Hi , yes the CV amount will scale to the speed step setting. Try adjusting CV 209 to get smoother running as well , and use as little BEMF as you can , as this helps with consisting. CHeers Gregg.

[@freightuk]

@@FishplateFilms Thanks, Jim :)

[@moosetrain]

Do you use DDE in your setup of the Tsunami Like the video's

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you BOb! NO I don't use DDE in any pf my set ups, WHile it is a neat function, it does not consist and my older Tsunami's don't have it so it would be useless. Glad you enjoy the videos. Cheers Gregg.

[@hmfic4297]

Awsome !!! VEDIO I have engineers at my club that see my training and I would let him drive it and they say that's like the real thing thank you. can't find part 4 ? Help

[@FishplateFilms]

That's great! I'm glad you got the results I promised! More on the way in coming months. Cheers Gregg.

[@hmfic4297]

@FishplateFilms alright can't wait for more

[@OtterCreek]

Great series! Can't wait for the next installment. Will you also cover speed matching Locos?

[@FishplateFilms]

Thank you ! I will touch on speed matching in a future episode! I'm glad you are enjoying the sereis! Cheers Gregg.

[@smokeyjoe1034]

Hey Gregg. I loved the ending of this video. I was curious, but do you enjoy other radio controlled modeling hobbies beside freight trains? I enjoy trains, but I also enjoy radio controlled aircraft as well. I own a helicopter and a plane. Cheers, Joe.

[@FishplateFilms]

No Just trains Joe.

[@17leeward]

Are you going to be doing any more "CV shortcuts"

[@FishplateFilms]

Yes , there will be more CV shortcuts coming up in the near future! Gregg :-)

[@17leeward]

@@FishplateFilms Thanks Gregg, Lee

[@deanmeyer4214]

What’s up with the next cv short cuts #4?

[@FishplateFilms]

Hi Dean, Thanks for the question! I have been very busy with my Airbnb , and work , so I haven't had much time. But I will be working on Part 4 soon> Cheers , Gregg.

[@aarondunker9358]

When you going to continue your cv’s short cuts?

[@FishplateFilms]

In the near future Aaron! I have been busy with my new house and land . But there are more on the way! Cheers Gregg.

[@smokeyjoe1034]

Also, do all full-scale locomotives have to be speed matched when they're paired with other locomotives or do all of their electric motors and generators perform relatively the same? Cheers, Joe.

[@FishplateFilms]

NO JOe , real locos are not speed matched but are set up to run at similar speeds on the same notches. Due to them having normal gears, they are able to be pushed or pulled...unlike ours! Gregg.

[@smokeyjoe1034]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't HO locos have gearboxes inside of their trucks? Albeit they're made of plastic, and they're rudimentary.

[@FishplateFilms]

@@smokeyjoe1034 The models have worm drives that make them unsuitable for being pushed or pulled.

[@smokeyjoe1034]

@@FishplateFilms I know, but they still have gearboxes. Maybe that doesn't matter, but it is a fact.

[@FishplateFilms]

@@smokeyjoe1034 I didn't say they didn't have them Joe .

[@miketalcott5180]

I'm curious: Have you had anything to do with CSIRO?

[@FishplateFilms]

Hi Mike...I did a few Viagra trials with them but thats it......LOL But seriously, I have no connection with the wonderful people at CSIRO ! Gregg :-)

[@miketalcott5180]

@@FishplateFilms At least you got a shirt out of the deal!

[@FishplateFilms]

@@miketalcott5180 LOL...I had to buy the shirt! I got it when I visited the "Dish" in Parkes.