Cyberpunk 2077 $5K NVIDIA RTX A6000 GPU Data Science Machine

[@HeatonResearch]

Several requests for an Ethereum mining video, you can find that here... kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKqtmomNgKaji6M

[@KING_DRANZER]

Hell instead of spending 3.5K on RTX3090 would spend 5K on Quadro A6000. At-least I get better bragging rights and won't be supporting scalpers by doing so. Better deal I guess.

[@parmalatgames9250]

compra uma placa de vídeo para mim aqui no Brasil está muito difícil

[@stephenadler]

you need to do 8K demonstrations. That's where the memory really comes into play.

[@HeatonResearch]

I do not have an 8K monitor, or I would give that a try.

[@HeatonResearch]

@@zorsenothorse Interesting! I will take a look at that.

[@viktorreznov4718]

@@HeatonResearch Yeah, I would really love to know how the A6000 performs at 8K with max settings (including raytracing), with and without DLSS. The 3090 does 31fps in _Cyberpunk 2077_ at 8K with raytracing with DLSS enabled, or 6.6fps without DLSS.

[@sunzalea3257]

@@HeatonResearch has it been done yet?

[@iTzAlbertXD]

I don't think there was no DLSS in the A6000 right ?

[@TheDivoture]

I actually laughed when I saw those specs. I know machine learning is demanding, but your computer is probably fast enough to rip through the fabric of time

[@mainermainermainer]

Big man jeff could take over the world with this build

[@derick_isoo]

NOPE

[@andrewjazdzyk1215]

For dna basecalling i also use this gpu (the university has em) so I was curious what it could do with a game.

[@MoisesSolisLordOfAll]

"in a real OS..." LOL

[@NovaValentis]

Amazing guy, right? :D

[@DesmondHolt]

That's when u knew he was next level 🤣

[@YannickVon_3D]

"Im not a gamer" *Sitting infront of a pc with 8 RAM bricks lit up in RGB lights.*

[@HeatonResearch]

ikr... lol

[@noway5096]

to be fair you can't buy shit without led's these days

[@YannickVon_3D]

@@noway5096 true

[@mememaster8368]

@@noway5096 yes you can :) And it can be done without doing too much research too! Here is a nice x570 motherboard with 0 rgb. It even comes with an anti gpu sag bracket! www.amazon.com/dp/B07SYWKXJV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_EBVP6EZBJ90DBRAR2CNK Here is 5100mhz ram with 0 rgb: www.amazon.com/dp/B08DRQ2M18/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_EM196K3BSCQGEPPBCMXV Here is an all black rtx 3090 with 0 rgb: www.amazon.com/dp/B08HR9D2JS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_CYKDEB9HAXYNP326BYTV Here is a nice cpu cooler with 0 rgb: www.amazon.com/dp/B07BY6F8D9/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_glt_fabc_ED80BG7XQRA20CQ9DY6D From there you can get the rest of the components most of which arent rgb and you got yourself a high end gaming pc with 0 rgb

[@battlebuddy4517]

@@mememaster8368 🤢 some of those parts is ewwww

[@AnIdiotAboard_]

I got 2 of them A6000s, and one thing I discovered about them is feeding data into them is a bark. 128gig of ram is not sufficient, once I went from 256 to 512gb RAM gaming performance skyrocketed. 120fps in cyberpunk with all the trimmings is easy. Food for thought good sir

[@Rock1Pop2Punk3Metal4]

XD

[@Total_gamingIndia]

Rich boi🎉🎉

[@IcyyX_]

what about ddr5 8200mhz cl38 2x24gb? since thats what i use..

[@BradHelm]

Might I recommend some reinforcement learning to train an AI to drive in Cyberpunk 2077 for you, Jeff? Might be more interesting than traditional sandbox reinforcement learning. And yes... I'm just green with jealousy. I can't get my hands on an nVidia 30-series for the life of me.

[@HeatonResearch]

I think half of the gift from NVIDIA was just the ability to obtain an Ampere card, which I am very grateful to them for. Yes these GPUs are not that easy to get ahold of, much less pay for.

[@KodandocomFaria]

It's a great idea .. sentdex is doing something like that on his channel ... he is using just computer vision to walk through streets ... maybe it could be a good challenge to RL...

[@wallacepan3897]

Funny thing is, A6000's per vram price is even lower than 3090 now.

[@Mantis_Toboggan]

its only like 1400 on evgas website

[@drawbridge1]

nice video! your production quality has really increased over your past few videos.

[@HeatonResearch]

Thanks! Yes, I have been working on that. The past few were produced with Adobe products (Premiere Pro and Audition) which lets me keep the microphones more constant from the "talking head" portion to the using a computer section. Still much to learn, but getting better! This was also a 4K video, not 100% sure 4K adds much for my typical mostly coding video, but we will see. This was my prototype 4K video. My camera is capable of it.

[@h4xor1701]

the A6000 it's a fantastic card, but it's more focused on professionals workloads, in fact it has lower memory and clock speed, due also to lower TDP and heat dissipation capacity. The Geforce (gaming) cards performs better due to higher clocks which are more important for fps. Besides that the GPU die is the same GA102.

[@theaugur1373]

How would the A6000 compare to two 3090s with NV LINK (for deep learning)?

[@HeatonResearch]

I think that is a key question, but not one that I have the hardware to answer. My theory is, that for something like GANs, where you do not need 48GB on a single GPU (mirrored), 2 3090s will be superior. For something like a Blazing SQL, where it ones one large cache, the A6000 will be superior. These are just unproven speculations.

[@SuperSuperka]

why compare them, when there is no 3090 blower style, so two GPU will be overheating very much.

[@TheCreatorBeast]

@@SuperSuperka gigabyte released 3090 blower style gpus before production stopped at the request of Nvidia. They're very expensive in the current market than the average top of the line 3090.

[@fattypatty5836]

@@SuperSuperka there is an uncontinued gigabyte blo3090 and there is an asus blo3090

[@thelazyphaze7564]

If you wanted to see the exact usage of Vram (GPU ram) then you could open the Xbox game bar which is usually automatically instaled if you have windows, just hold the Windows key and press G. There you can select if you want to see your performance overlayed. There it shows the exact percentage and usage of your Vram and many other parts.

[@filip1997andersson]

Or he could have scrolled down when he was in the gpu tab in task manager because at the bottom you will see vram usage

[@ADunleavy]

MSI Afterburner has an On-Screen Monitoring display that can be configured to show: usage, temps, heat, vram usage, memory speed, fps and any throttling without having to switch to task manager.

[@mrrebel172]

Just found your channel and I'll be coming here more often

[@HeatonResearch]

Thanks! And welcome.

[@UrbexLiving]

Just ordered a A6000 for intense video editing and motion effects with a Ryzen 9 5590x. Hope it runs buttery smooth

[@turtlejuice1013]

5590x? Do you mean 5900x or 5950x?

[@foxgaming76yt24]

@@turtlejuice1013 probably 5950x, since it's just two digits swapped in place

[@andyelgangster5320]

Can the nvidia tesla a100 play cyberpunk 2077?

[@michaeltualatin]

this is the most funny gaming machine review on the youtube...

[@EpicBr0]

If you scroll down or make the task manager window bigger itll show you more gpu info at the bottom like vram usage and whatnot.

[@leihejun844]

4:37 you just need to resize the task manager window longer to view how much vram is exactly being used two: better go to Cyberpunk game settings and set everything at ultra high before measuring fps

[@theplanetarian]

That is such a gorgeous card.

[@HeatonResearch]

Yes, I do like the design of it.

[@DIVINEJASON_OFFICAL]

the instant loading time is crazy

[@cheanjas9566]

Ray Tracing ON or OFF ? DLSS ON or OFF?

[@arbyandy3134]

This is amazing, thank you Professor!

[@SuperNova23333]

Great Video Jeff! Do you have any Machine Learning/ Deep Learning books that you would recomend?

[@HeatonResearch]

I guess my book. :). It is also free.... arxiv.org/abs/2009.05673

[@hxd9321]

@@HeatonResearch I just read it, now my computer has a wirus.

[@lejoshmont2093]

"In a real operating system" made me chuckle

[@Sponsi_PL]

64FPS? Why does it seem it's half of it?

[@35pen61]

you can tell that this runs on 60s FPS but scaled down to 24 bcs of recording setting wasnt optimized

[@che-weihsieh975]

Contemplating on the mayhem you caused to the power grid, definitely something new to the gamer realm. Can we also get an approximate description of how the GPU performs noise-wise at idle and under normal load in such a case with ample airflow a few feet away from the user? Like does it sound terrible, bearable, or can a good pair of stereo speakers or headphones eliminate the noise?

[@extremeterror_1177]

So it seems like a slight improvement but not enough to justify a 5000 usd gpu for gaming since it runs about the same as a 4080 super in terms of gaming performance

[@360Fov]

It looks like its running at about 15-20 fps. Weird that the screen recorder dropped so many frames

[@aaronmontgomery2055]

Its could be because of driver support for the A6000 isn't for gaming and is limited by Nvidea but it could also be something else. I think it is the drivers personally but maybe its something else.

[@kuok77]

MSI Afterburner can show detail about power, temperature, frame rate, cpu usage, gpu usage, etc, on-screen display

[@LittleVboh]

people don't understand that these cards are mainly used for deep learning - for ai stuff and NOT gaming

[@michaelolz]

But 60fps is usually the target. Is this game really optimized to kill lesser video cards? Who needs it?

[@khhoaiii]

A6000 runs so hot. My 3090FE runs about 65C

[@jargman]

You should play the benchmark in the settings menu.

[@FreshCoolBeer]

$4,649 launch price. It has the full GA102 (628 mm²) core but lower memory speed 16 Gbps vs 19.5 Gbps. In summary I spect best case scenario exactly same performance as the RTX 3090, worse case scenario a little bit slower. I wonder if that ECC memory is better (or worse) for overclocking though!

[@turtlejuice1013]

Yes and no, on paper it would seem to be the case but if I remember correctly Nvidia don't want their a6000 to be used for gaming purposes and have added driver updates to try and stop you from gaming on it whereas the 3090 is designed for gaming and has a lot more support for it both from Nvidia drivers and from games themselves.

[@praystation]

Im running 3990x , 256gb 3600mhz downclocked to 3466mhz with 3090 ftw3 ultra gaming.

[@jdkarchivos]

Never use Camtasia Studio for recording a game benchmark. Use OBS or something instead so we can see how smooth it actually is.

[@hxd9321]

Why do you have these particular pc components

[@athrunzala5337]

Thank you for this video . . I was thinking about it. There's an option in this game where you can increase the crowd setting to high to add more people in night city . . can you please try it to see if the A6000 is better at rendering them than gaming graphics?

[@ddnn32325]

Plz do more gaming benchmarks with it

[@HeatonResearch]

We will see, maybe. I might do something like 3DMark. Probably folding at home. Any other games of particular interest?

[@ddnn32325]

@@HeatonResearch Microsoft flight simulator is really hard to run and also mincraft rtx with shades and etc, Microsoft flight simulator is easier to install

[@hunterborden6891]

Yeah flight simulator hardly runs well on 4k on my 3090. So it'd be interesting to see how the A6000 does

[@ddnn32325]

@@hunterborden6891 u ply any competitive games?

[@hunterborden6891]

@@ddnn32325 Like what?

[@chiefofgotham]

What are the monitor specs???? frames dont really matter unless we know the quality its putting out

[@bluzenkk]

hi, i'm a game dev. I got interest in ML because of the AI Art that has become real hot topic recent months. thus i was researching the hardware specs for a personal ai training computer. and so... i find this channel. haha~~ nice to meet you~ for gamers, if you haven't heard of cyberpunk 2077, its like never heard of Marvel Avengers in 2010's. Shame ~~~

[@isbestlizard]

Great physics engine as always. Because driving into trees irl at 100mph means you just uproot the tree and keep on going right

[@Goodladbrother]

Can u make a new year 2023 of this video since cp2077 has been patches nore times since the video

[@mr.electronx9036]

Price-Performance is not bad if you see the inflated prices for 30 series...rtx 3090 with $3000

[@HeatonResearch]

Really looking forward to those getting to MSRP.

[@vinishshetty8055]

Does the RTX A6000 support NVLink? The data sheet on NVIDIA site related to professional graphics solutions it says the card doesnt support NVLink however on the dedicated page for NVLink it says the RTX A6000 supports NVLink 2slot and 3slot Bridge, Quite conflicting.

[@BharathRamMS]

Will doing an SLI of this card with a mid-level gaming card increase the FPS?

[@العقيدمعمرالقذافي-ح4ف]

what kind of research do you use it for kind sir

[@gunterandersson]

Set obs to record the game application and the nvidia application, then overlay them in post.

[@walterdavisii8936]

i've got a lot of smart engineering friends from Wash U.

[@MetragoonGaming]

NVIDIA RTX Experience will be your go to for recording gameplay on a Quadro graphics card. Very nice video by the way!

[@phigolden2706]

What do you use this monster for?

[@efexzium]

What UPS are you guys using ?

[@julienclauzel4338]

Okay now it is tule for an SLI test xD Thank you for the video

[@timtran9036]

Jesus how much is that setup? 20k?

[@andrut]

gpu-z (sensors tab) is pretty good for monitoring gpu under windows

[@HeatonResearch]

Thanks, I will have to check it out.

[@ployth9000]

how is the gpu vs a 3090 at 4k what are the fps results ?

[@cokta45]

Overall great video i do have 1 recommendation and this goes for alot of these performance reviews on cyberpunk. Try doing the test in the city rather then the outskirts. Since there is more geometry and objects to render. I have a 1080 and i get 60fps in outskirts in the city it drops to 45. But great video none the less

[@douradesh]

hey jeff, which graphics card do you recommend for accelerate multiphysics simulation using cuda programming?

[@GVJan10]

The graphic Settings would be interesting.

[@matthewdavis7280]

HI Jeff, I have recently built a new gaming PC specifically for VR Gaming (Quest 2- Steam VR) and my RTX 3090 TI is only able to run Half-Life Alex at 450% resolution (utilizing 21 of the 24 GB of GPU memory)... I am thinking because the computer runs basically dual displays (120Hz) in 3D at very high 360 resolution, this may be a good card to consider. Are you able to test this?

[@lucyknowles1205]

Hi Jeff, do you know what fan speed you were running in this demo when you were hitting 86 degrees? Thanks

[@ericnf3958]

It's sad that a RTX 3090 here in Brazil is about 5,000 dollars like this GPU, because RTX 3090 was supposed to be costing around 1,500 dollars.

[@papito1060]

Is the 3090 still $5000 in your region? Here in europe is it €2000 that is around $2300

[@ericnf3958]

@@papito1060 Now It was dropped to 16000 BRL that is around $3000. Much better than before but due to Brazilian tax charge it's difficult to be less than it.

[@marcosd3976]

How many trillion of numbers can crunch? That would be fun ...

[@EdVizenor]

What do you mean by Machine Learning?

[@rajjagu6942]

Did you change the pcie lane to pcie gen 4 under bios it’ll allow u to take higher bandwidth speed of 16gb/s

[@HeatonResearch]

Yes, running gen4

[@DruuzilTechGames]

I've been trying to find one of these at a reasonable (ie MSRP) price. Considering the number of CUDA cores and memory on the A6000 it should be capable of gaming, but I'm not sure what the clock speeds are. *Edit* lol, I have a really similar system to yours. Threadripper 3960x, 128GB DDR4 3200, several Sabrent Rockets.. 1500w supply though. I'm using RTX 3090's for deep learning at the moment, and they're really power hungry.

[@michaelatkins4650]

Jeff, gamer, tech junkie. Really enjoyed this video, what a fresh take. I do have a question though. What settings were you running the game at? It looked excellent so I'm guessing pretty high at least. But specifically, we're they maxed out, Ray Tracing, DLSS--on or off? Anyhow, Im subscribing. Very cool video.

[@HeatonResearch]

Thanks! I was using basic settings, I tried it again with DLSS set to its max setting, and ray trace ultra. That takes FPS down to 50.

[@nguyenanhnguyen7658]

A cheap 2000US can run this game in full Sir :). Could you please do a demo for StyleGAN-ADA V2 training with large batch size ? Really interest to see actual training with StyleGAN/StarGAN V2 ... ! I have been training for days with custom dataset (5-6 epochs now) but the output still very weird... !

[@karlwalker1771]

I Don`t Want to Appear Rude But you Sir Have Entertained me Due TO Having More Money Then Sense,PS Keep UP The Good WORK :)

[@Darkpixel2]

thank you, How is the noise? those blowers usually are very loud.

[@HeatonResearch]

Yes it is decently loud, not enough that it annoys me or makes recording next to it that difficult, though.

[@ChaosOver]

Hope, some of the richer gamers will watch this video and buy all the quadro cards, so scientists will no longer bei able to buy them. German gaming magazines are already linking this Video. Videos like this, are usually fun, but not atm with all the GPU shortages. If they start buying quadros for gaming, people who need them for work, are in trouble.

[@HeatonResearch]

Fair enough. However, I really blame some of the shortage more on Crypto miners than gamers. Ideal gamer and crypto GPUs seem to overlap. And if a crypto miner, who has no concept of ROI, builds a farm of A6000's, there are going to be some great deals on used A6000's on ebay after their bankruptcy proceedings are done!

[@kaloyan1498]

@@HeatonResearch yeah but covid and scalpers do the real work

[@cyber_robot889]

But can it run minecart?

[@manuelziesler2250]

great card but this is wthout raytracing. turn it on and see the difference

[@HeatonResearch]

Very good point, thanks! That was with the default game settings. I reran the same area with ray tracing: ultra preset and FPS is around 50.

[@amr154]

What's machine learning

[@shadowhacker27]

how can my 1070 perform better than this by a lot?

[@Hierax415]

Next grant meeting, why do you need an RTX A6000?.....8k Panam THICC

[@Dr.Kryptanical]

But this is done outside the city -.-' it's not a valid test to be out in the desert... you should be in the city with multiple moving and animated entities, raytraced buildings and cars testing it in the rain on a busy day out by the waterfront or the busiest crosswalks and areas that hardware really struggles honestly not sure why I'm replying to a year old video the 40 series performs better in quite a few of these games anyways this was bad naming should of called it the A4000!

[@kamikazilucas]

if you arent a gamer then why do you have a corsair case

[@HeatonResearch]

Because it matched the cooler and power supply. I was hoping for fewer incompatibilities. Also, I am "old" and have purchased RAM from them for years, back to when that was the main item they sold.

[@IwinMahWay]

How did you get a 4k output from a6000?

[@HeatonResearch]

There is no trick there, I just connected a 4K monitor, with the latest driver.

[@IwinMahWay]

@@HeatonResearch thank you sir I mistook the ports to be dvi when they are displayport. Thanks for your videos!

[@steadychaosproductions3376]

that quadro gets hot mang! 86c? That's not meltdown high, but I'd hesitate to call it ideal.

[@HeatonResearch]

Agree. When running Cyberpunk a bit more on it I would see temps in the mid-80s, but just sometimes. It would generally fall back to the 70s. Usually, I have it under Ubuntu working on machine learning, it maxes out at 78c generally.

[@peelthebananna9827]

Have you got 3090 benchmarks to compare it to with workstation tasks?

[@HeatonResearch]

I do not own a 3090, so I would likely just reference what others have done there.

[@peelthebananna9827]

@@HeatonResearch yeah just benchmarks on the a6000 then we could compare them to 3090 benchmarks

[@drlu3823]

Where is the FPS tho

[@RomboDawg]

What graphics setting does the game have? Is ray tracing on?

[@HeatonResearch]

I did some further experimentations, based on other comments. The video was with default game settings, I bumped the preset to raytracing: ultra, and I got around 50 FPS.

[@dennythescar80s8]

that game looks like running at 30 fps on my screen

[@Usernotknown21]

We know it will run cyberpunk, but how does it compare to the 3090?

[@ddnn32325]

It runs about 10 fps better

[@HeatonResearch]

@@ddnn32325 Thanks! Yeah I do not have access to a 3090.

[@Usernotknown21]

@@HeatonResearch i found thus on the internet "While the Nvidia RTX A6000 has a slightly better GPU configuration than the GeForce RTX 3090, it uses slower memory and therefore features 768 GB/s of memory bandwidth, which is 18% lower than the consumer graphics card (936GB/s), so it will not beat the 3090 in gaming. Meanwhile, because the RTX A6000 has 48GB of DRAM onboard, it will perform better in memory-hungry professional workloads." www-tomshardware-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.tomshardware.com/amp/news/nvidia-rtx-a6000-48gb-benchmarked?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=16130673872954&csi=0&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tomshardware.com%2Fnews%2Fnvidia-rtx-a6000-48gb-benchmarked

[@spy2859]

@@Usernotknown21 yeah of course because it's not made for gaming

[@AlexandreG]

Probably the CPU is even bottlenecking it

[@DigitalNomadOnFIRE]

Real operating systems run games sir. And Visual Studio (full version), and SQL Server.

[@yasaipicles6295]

Please don't use autofocus if you're stationary.

[@HeatonResearch]

yes good point.

[@chaosdragon6718]

4k@75fps Even if it is 1440p upcsaled to 4k _ it is a lot better than 3990 _ But _ native 4k with 75 fps __ thats insane

[@comanandrei1993]

If you're getting 102 fps when standing still in the desert it definitely can't run Crisis or Minecraft :(

[@rishabh7853]

Me with a Ryzen 5 at 2.5 ghz and 1 Gb integrated graphics. Yes!

[@wisp2482]

You sure that's a ryzen 5?

[@sebastianm3505]

Hi Jeff I loved your video its amazing how someone who is working on mashine learning gets into gaming. I am gamer myself moving into programming area. I was wondering if you could possibly have any advice on programming languages? I am basically trying to use all of my 24 cores (or as many as possible) in ryzen 9 5900x on win10 to run simple code in python that does calculations on huge numbers. Unfortunately it uses just around 5% of my CPU each time so opening number of instances of python to run more codes is the only way I know to utilise that power. Would you have any tips on improving that 5% usage for single code?

[@broccoloodle]

I don’t think the problem is programming language, learn more so you’ll know no computing power is enough

[@xynsao]

That's OP ..

[@Usernotknown21]

What's the screen resolution?

[@ddnn32325]

4k

[@andryx0806]

dude 86 °C is wayyyy overheated a gpu should run optimisticaly around 60 to a max of 70 degrees

[@wisp2482]

You have no idea what you're talking about

[@paolobricarelli]

Nope

[@skye415]

Its a rendering gpu oh

[@PuiuM3u]

Can we use that video card to crack the passwords ? Like big library brute force atack 💙Please make a video abut 'it!

[@dustinknutti223]

no datas no statistics .just a video that looks like 4K15hz ...damn ..

[@HeatonResearch]

Valid points, I did add some data in the description.

[@koncs1791]

what settings is it at?

[@HeatonResearch]

That was default settings. I did try the ultra raytracing setting, and that takes FPS down to 50.