Cyberpunk 2077 Phantom Liberty Good Ending

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Soul Slayer

Soul Slayer

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@chazdoit
@chazdoit Жыл бұрын
Forget about gangs, corpos, the FIA, cdpr writers are V's worst enemy, guys wont give him a break.
@mmosm
@mmosm Жыл бұрын
lmao, they just dont let him get a best ending , didnt they XD
@anonymousxaela761
@anonymousxaela761 Жыл бұрын
her
@SantiagoJimenez-hh3is
@SantiagoJimenez-hh3is Жыл бұрын
​@Garland846him
@ethanbradshaw2858
@ethanbradshaw2858 Жыл бұрын
​@@mmosmThe Tower and The Sun are the good endings.
@Nogdog945
@Nogdog945 Жыл бұрын
Happy ending? Wrong city, wrong people.
@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX
@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX Жыл бұрын
This ending is the closest thing to someone having a somewhat bittersweet ending, even if it isn’t V. Songbird going to the moon is similar to Lucy from Edgerunners while nearly everyone else had a tragic end.
@proudiofficial
@proudiofficial Жыл бұрын
problem is she pulled a Kiwi to get there
@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX
@XxHUNT3RN4T0RxX Жыл бұрын
@@proudiofficial yeah and I honestly wouldn’t be too upset about it. I can see myself doing something similar to Songbird lol.
@primus0348
@primus0348 Жыл бұрын
@@proudiofficial but unlike Kiwi, she did it because she was dying, kiwi did it for money if i remember correctly
@vond5829
@vond5829 Жыл бұрын
@@proudiofficial Everybody has to pull a Kiwi to get there. Wanna be nice and kind and honest? Wrong city, wrong people, choom
@odontoxins3223
@odontoxins3223 Жыл бұрын
This is the first ending I got just naturally playing making decisions based off what I would really do. I feel like it sucks she lied but you might as well see helping her through.
@kirillbadlak
@kirillbadlak Жыл бұрын
all endings are so tearful... I can't accept all of them
@SoulSlayer_96
@SoulSlayer_96 Жыл бұрын
Truly.. CDPR has best story presentation
@clausion
@clausion Жыл бұрын
I love all endings, their are full of sad, as it should be. Happy endings are for pussies.
@MacwinsTV
@MacwinsTV Жыл бұрын
There is 1 more ending , You can skip entire DLC by not saving President lol
@skyfighter311
@skyfighter311 Жыл бұрын
​​@@MacwinsTVwich ending is that becuse i lost count of them
@awril2137
@awril2137 Жыл бұрын
@@MacwinsTV Well technically it's not an ending for the story bcs if you refuse to help the president you just go and attack Arasaka tower for example
@livingdeadty
@livingdeadty Жыл бұрын
Just got this ending last night. The one thing that really sets this apart is we finally get to see just a sliver of what the blackwall is capable of after hearing all through the base game about how catastrophic a breach in the blackwall would be for humanity. I played through this entire section with my jaw to the floor and all I could mutter was wow... 10/10 moment, one of my favorites in not just Phantom Liberty, but in all of Cyberpunk 2077.
@florianfrueh3282
@florianfrueh3282 Жыл бұрын
true. and v says something like "seeing the red stuff" and reed is like "only beause you have a link to songbird" so normal people wouldnt even be able to realise something is "infected"....
@tj3603
@tj3603 Жыл бұрын
Ikr, puts into perspective how clueless humanity really is, corporations and politicians scheming and plotting, sending runners to wild net in hopes of using this power for their own gain without understanding even slightest misstep on this path will doom human race to extinction, because it's impossible to fight something like this. Some biblical shit this is.
@fajnu20
@fajnu20 Жыл бұрын
​@@florianfrueh3282this is absolutely terrifying
@marzialalfonzocanada888
@marzialalfonzocanada888 Жыл бұрын
Those rogue AIs are creepy af the blackwall pretty much keeps them at bay....they're like a hive mind
@KidOmnipotent
@KidOmnipotent Жыл бұрын
​@@marzialalfonzocanada888 Nothing like a hivemind actually. The net behind the Blackwall isn't an unlimited space so it's survival of the fittest for the rogue AIs behind it. This is why they're so dangerous, the continuous evolutions necessary to survive in that environment with limited space has put them well beyond the technological capacity of humanity. Either you become highly dangerous, or like the Delamain quest makes clear, a superior AI will co-opt you.
@JynxedKoma
@JynxedKoma Жыл бұрын
The blackwall pulse was so intense that it made those soldiers scream in dial up.
@Lokhir100
@Lokhir100 Жыл бұрын
I liked that part, I think it was nod to The Matrix considering they used that sound a lot in the movie
@TonyTylerDraws
@TonyTylerDraws Жыл бұрын
I wonder what it’s doing to them. The Blackwall is treated as something almost supernatural
@seeinred
@seeinred Жыл бұрын
@@TonyTylerDraws iirc it introduces the rampant AIs from the behind of Blackwall to neural system of the targets and all their implants, even the most basic onces. The first time you use quickhack version of this, you get the quote from AI embedded in Canto: "Target neural network acquired. Data migration to primary matrix - complete." ... which would imply the gateway is basically devouring the target. Suffice to say, from the looks of it it's very horrific way to go. Also, i agree with "almost supernatural" part. In-universe, whatever goes on behind Blackwall is, in fact, waaaay above the league for humans. So that's just appropriate depiction.
@TalentTreant
@TalentTreant Жыл бұрын
If you go with this ending and then combine it with one of the original endings (you can) the ending where you live half a year knowing that you will die. Then there is a chance that songbird might find a way to help you during that time (we will never know tho) That is my preferred ending.
@deathmachine200
@deathmachine200 Жыл бұрын
Honestly the new ending kind of confirms that it's possible for the biochip to be cured through means other than Arasaka. The new ending is really just another version of the Arasaka ending in my opinion. I think the Panam ending is still the best, we know it's possible for other groups to possibly cure v and with the connections that the nomads have you could find it. And you get to be with your friends the whole time who are pretty hellbent by that time (especially panam if romanced) to help you out.
@Caliif
@Caliif Жыл бұрын
My headcanon is that the job in space works for V, they find a way to get healed and maybe reunite with So Mi
@deadrider7333
@deadrider7333 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a wonderful theory to be honest. Unfortunately I think she didn't survive the surgery on the moon, think about it, she didn't text us with her old number, didn't thank us, or apologize for betraying us. Which she definitely would've done. She probably told one of the staff members at the moon, to drop the capsule, with the souvenir and the cyberware, and text V to look at the place that reminds her of "Home", moments before she died, as it was the only thing she could do, to thank V. Of course its just a theory, but Reed said himself, the only thing that awaits Songbird on the moon, is death.
@XStreet1985
@XStreet1985 Жыл бұрын
I actually prefer giving my body to Johnny ending. Self sacrifice and giving someone a second chance is a decent way to go.
@WatchMan283
@WatchMan283 Жыл бұрын
​​@@deadrider7333Idk, there might be a chance she lives. She said Mr. Blue Eyes was the one who got her her ticket up. If anyone/anything can save her, it'd probably his "people". We know the matrix works. So if Blue Eyes doesn't screw her over, she might have a shot at life.
@mnedogoda
@mnedogoda Жыл бұрын
Also, a few days after sending our girl to the moon you get a message from her with some interesting stuff she sent you back to NC, including lunar dust, a metal souvenir Tycho pin and a piece of cyberware. Which was nice to see, because the endng kinda fucked me up emotionally.
@corasan5326
@corasan5326 Жыл бұрын
wonder if you can ask Blue Eyes about her in the Glory ending ?
@MorpheusCh
@MorpheusCh Жыл бұрын
​@@corasan5326Unfortunately you can't but you can ask Song Mi who gave her the ticket to which she answers a man with Blue Eyes.
@KidOmnipotent
@KidOmnipotent Жыл бұрын
@@MorpheusCh This is why I believe sending So Mi to the moon then doing the solo Arasaka & Glory ending to pull the heist off with Blue Eyes is the best ending now.
@lucaskazama878
@lucaskazama878 6 ай бұрын
thank you @mnedogoda , I would never know if not for you
@thephantompenance
@thephantompenance Жыл бұрын
They say pain is a deal between mind and body. It’s also a deal between the mind and your principles. Songbird hurt me to the bone with her betrayal and she’s hurt a lot of people with her master plan. But beyond the pain I could see a scared girl running away from a master who wouldn’t stop tearing her apart. As much as she hurt me, my principles couldn’t send her back to Myers.
@elektricnymorgulec8055
@elektricnymorgulec8055 Жыл бұрын
Calm down its just a game... sheesh.
@zephyros0946
@zephyros0946 Жыл бұрын
100% facts, good analysis
@thephantompenance
@thephantompenance Жыл бұрын
@@elektricnymorgulec8055 lol naw, I like having a dramatic flair in my writing 🤣
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 Жыл бұрын
But Myers and Reed were trying to help her
@nathanlimones4576
@nathanlimones4576 3 ай бұрын
@@elektricnymorgulec8055 yk anybody can feel what they want about anything
@GRIMHOOD99
@GRIMHOOD99 Жыл бұрын
This is the best ending of a DLC for me simply because Alex survives as well. Reed could walk away and didn't. And So Mi sends me a great cyberware and a pin from the Tycho I can put on my table. I see this as an absolute win.
@Caliif
@Caliif Жыл бұрын
Reed is a lot like Takemura, FIA threw him away when they didn't need him anymore but he still crawls back when they call him
@Frostman411
@Frostman411 Жыл бұрын
@xboxone1543 If you and reed go after So Mi. If you help So Mi then turn her over to reed instead of shooting him, then everyone lives.
@shweppan9211
@shweppan9211 Жыл бұрын
When do you get the cyberware from So Mi because I've finished the good ending and I'm going through the main questline again and still haven't gotten a message or anything from her
@josh09614
@josh09614 Жыл бұрын
Same as othet ending where you still need to cure your Relic
@DovahVokuna
@DovahVokuna Жыл бұрын
Songbird betrayed everybody. Only person she cares about is herself. killing many Many people. She is the real antagonist of the story. Reed is the person trying to do the right thing. wanting to save her. Even conflicted with his duty/guilt. even though Songbird is a huge narcasist.
@RaiBCN-oj2rk
@RaiBCN-oj2rk Жыл бұрын
First ending I got in PL. Very emotional and the everything starting from getting out of the stadium up to the situation at the airport is phenomenal. Tapping into the power of the Blackwall is terrifying yet powerful, and we get to experience that in this ending. Our girl risked everything, deceived everyone.. But because we're with her in this ending, we get to understand her perspective. Hats off to CDPR
@segiraldovi
@segiraldovi Жыл бұрын
So mi is the antagonist of this story: she lied, murdered and betrayed everyone in the end. She only told the truth in the end because she had no choice but to cause pity to survive. If she had the choice she would betray V at the end just to safe her life. The only reason I like it is to not give the president the pleasure of having her tool back. Reed honestly does not deserve to die since above all he is a good man, he never tried to betray us.
@SaturnineXTS
@SaturnineXTS Жыл бұрын
@@segiraldovi Song's determination to stay alive and free is impressive, and that's exactly why V should sympathize with her, because he too will do pretty much all he can to survive. That kind of determination to survive shouldn't be rewarded with betrayal
@draysmusicalshtposts6340
@draysmusicalshtposts6340 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Reed is like Takemura. We see sides of them that we like, where theres honor and loyalty, yet theyre both old dogs. Theyve been subsetvient to their respective masters for far too long to truly break their programming.
@SansooIan
@SansooIan Жыл бұрын
What this DLC taught me was "Never stop Fighting V" The original line. It means, "Keep finding your own chosen ending, until all options have been explored. Then make your choice. If theres another dlc, 50% chance we will get the ending we want.
@Rosegoldshawwty
@Rosegoldshawwty Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this was the only content this game will get. They’re already focusing on cyberpunk Orion. If we’re lucky and patient, we’ll see that by 2030.
@corasan5326
@corasan5326 Жыл бұрын
You didnt noticed ? Each ending has its own winner. - Glory ending (fear the reaper or rogue) is the best ending for Night City mercs, but everyone else looses. - Arasaka ending is the best ending for Hanako alone. - Nomad ending is the best ending for V and his loved ones, but not for Takemura and the others. - Suicide ending is the best ending for no one. - Johnny ending (where he gets the body) is the best ending for Johnny alone. - Giving Song away is an average ending for everyone, except Yorinobu who has his best end here.
@vaskildo94
@vaskildo94 Жыл бұрын
For folks like us? Wrong city, wrong people.
@TheRandomMuffinMan
@TheRandomMuffinMan Жыл бұрын
We technically do get a “happy ending” if we side with Reed. The only issue is you give up on your dreams of being the best, never raid Arasaka and destroy Mikoshi, never put Adam Smasher down, lose access to cyberware and lose almost all your friendships besides with Misty and Vik. Sure you live, but the cost is pretty high and you go back to a mediocre life. But it’s the one ending where you keep your soul and don’t become an engram and like almost all the other endings there is hope that it turns out for the better.
@mateuszgaecki5949
@mateuszgaecki5949 Жыл бұрын
There wont be another expansion, CDP said it like a thousand times already
@Ptzou
@Ptzou Жыл бұрын
Siding with songbird is the best ending to me, Alex lives, reed dies for what he believes in, songbird gets cured and V continues on with silverhand
@AlexZebol
@AlexZebol Жыл бұрын
I see this as canon ending with addition of The Sun (Don't Fear The Reaper). In both, Mr. Blue Eyes is involved. He's (proxy but still) the one who gave So Mi the tickets, he's the one that gives the Space Casino contract and he's the one behind Peralez family brainwashing. IMHO: He's checking out V. Like HL2's G-Man seeks to know what V is made of to recruit/use 'em for his own ends. Plus, honestly, I wouldn't side with Reed after he and Alex massacred the twins. Aurore might've been a con-artist, criminal but didn't really deserve to die. Especially in a such brutal fashion.
@thechangamire3495
@thechangamire3495 Жыл бұрын
Aah, another Aurore lover. We were truly robbed.
@TheMakk3
@TheMakk3 Жыл бұрын
​@@thechangamire3495 Fuck it would've been awesome if there was a way for V to retain Aurore's imprint after Firestarter.
@amf1435
@amf1435 Жыл бұрын
I bet payment for doing the Crystal Palace mission (whatever it is) is fixing V. But who knows how much they have to give up to get it.
@ComradeAurelian
@ComradeAurelian Жыл бұрын
@@Rose4MLEKurt’s goons are now innocent people, lol
@starlightwarden
@starlightwarden Жыл бұрын
This story and ending was extremely emotional for me and I can't get my mind off it. I'm very glad I chose to save So Mi, especially seeing the Reed ending with all her memories and her pleading to die over being tortured by the NUSA. She didnt deserve that or to be a puppet forced to lose herself in the Blackwall. V was delt bad by Dex, but So Mi's torture was on another level and her wings were clipped, she couldn't fly. Like V, she was dying and was short on time, and her having a chance at survival is the better ending to me. V still has hope through Panam or Mr. Blue Eyes to survive, if this ending is anything to go by. Mr. Blue Eyes got So Mi the ticket to Tycho and is present in the facility, and is present standing on the rooftop with a umbrella during the train station fight. If anything, this makes the Crystal Palace ending a lot more canonical than any of the others to me. I naturally chose the ending with the Aldecaldos, but maybe in my current new playthrough I will trust him instead to stick with So Mi. Its nice to know that she survived and is living safe on Tycho city. She contacts V later telling them to go to the "place that reminded her of home" where a Tycho City pin and her Cyberdeck are stored away. Not only has this DLC been fun but it shows that not only Arasaka or Mikoshi can help V and that makes their story feel a lot more hopeful than just walking off with no chrome after surviving a two year coma and losing everyone, or potentially dying within six months. Whatever comes next, I hope we see more of So Mi and Mr. Blue Eyes, or a reference to what happens to V in Cyberpunk Orion hopefully.
@nothere4450
@nothere4450 Жыл бұрын
So i ended handing So Mi over, I thought Reed would make the right call. Get her out of NUSA. Do we have any canon details on what exactly happened to her after handing her over to Reed?
@JuliaJuanaAlvarez
@JuliaJuanaAlvarez Жыл бұрын
But So Mi doesn't deserve a happy ending. Yes what the NUSA did was wrong but she also caused many innocent deaths, lied to V more than once and basicly only used her to help herself. In the end she is like "f*ck you V, I lied to you, the cure is only for me". A good ending would be where you could kill both So Mi and Reed
@nothere4450
@nothere4450 Жыл бұрын
@@JuliaJuanaAlvarez lol, i asked for canon details after handing so mi over to reed. Not a discussion on our differences of playthroughs. You literally inserted into the query, while only stating your opinions =/ Therefore, not going to bother explaining why I wanted So Mi freed from NUSA.
@JuliaJuanaAlvarez
@JuliaJuanaAlvarez Жыл бұрын
@@nothere4450 All that I did was explaining that So Mi isn't any better than the NUSA. She is a bad person as well and all she did the entire story was lie to V and use her. So why does she deserve a good ending? That's what I say, in a good ending you could kill all of them
@anosvoldigoat3351
@anosvoldigoat3351 Жыл бұрын
​@@nothere4450 As far as I know they rewrite her like a new ai stripping away any traces of humanity left in her . Also I love playing as a tragic hero saving others instead of myself 😅
@tc16169
@tc16169 Жыл бұрын
While in the middle of helping So Mi escape, I was pretty sure I'd picked one of the "bad" endings. Turns out it was actually the happiest one 😂
@smward87
@smward87 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the only way the other ending would ever be a happy ending is if your V was a complete loner and had no love interests and you didn't care about any of the other NPCs you meet throughout the game. Then them all moving on while you're in a coma wouldn't matter.
@tripledeegaming808
@tripledeegaming808 Жыл бұрын
Watching V become an lifeless npc which is not him and nearly everyone he knew turn their back on him surely not a happy ending
@roastinpeace2320
@roastinpeace2320 Жыл бұрын
@@tripledeegaming808 Stop saying like it's a bad ending lol. It's best ending ever. You get to live forever, you can always get a new friends and get yourself in shape quickly as V is like 24-25 yo. You get no fucking relic eating away your brain. And chrome is just a chrome.. You can literally play through the whole game without a single piece of chrome and even kill Adam Smasher.
@S3verance
@S3verance Жыл бұрын
@@roastinpeace2320man you have no insight into the character V
@roastinpeace2320
@roastinpeace2320 Жыл бұрын
@@S3verance How so? Enlighen me, please.
@daymonduncan4181
@daymonduncan4181 Жыл бұрын
I would say this is the best ending V chose the lifestyle he did and he had to deal with the consequences. Songbird was forced to do the things she did and was used. In my mind she had the same thought process as V do anything you possibly can do to be “free” again.
@vendetta3941
@vendetta3941 Жыл бұрын
Yet she was an alt, bartmoss, and blue eyes level runner. The FIA couldn't do a damn thing to her if she denied their orders, yet she did it anyway. She is just as bad as them.
@garedmacdonald5164
@garedmacdonald5164 Жыл бұрын
Pretty true, her screwing everyone over didn’t sit right with me tho personally, out right back stabbed you n told you a half truth to get what she wanted, in the end V was just a fool for a pretty face, I chose to get her locked up to get the new ending.
@DunkaDunka330
@DunkaDunka330 Жыл бұрын
Agree, cause The Tower ending you get if you give So Mi up is so fucked up (especially if you had love interest already) that i do not want to see it again.
@BEST-sv1jz
@BEST-sv1jz Жыл бұрын
when Jonny pulled the plug on alt and actually trapped her. It's the same thing when Reed pulled the plug on songbird. I think it might have trapped half of Songbird inside the black walls.
@daymonduncan4181
@daymonduncan4181 Жыл бұрын
Also after thinking about all the endings this ending. Is actually one that shows an act of selflessness. I know cyberpunk has a lot of debates around it but out of all the games I played this one actually made me think of all the choices I made and had me thinking of other options I could have done even when I’m not playing it. By Far one of the best games ever created
@mnedogoda
@mnedogoda Жыл бұрын
My preferred ending tbh, not just because I sympathize with Song as a character, but what it means for her. Does it matter that she wasn't completely honest with V about the neural matrix? Sure, it kinda hurts, but at that point the matrix is her only chance of getting a "second chance" as she called it. She can't storm Arasaka, she has no access to Mikoshi, or Alt. V has all those options, so it made sense to me to free her life from NUSA, and Meyers specifically. To put it as simply as possible, our girl got tired of being used by a corp (in this case, by Myers) to access beyond blackwall for personal gain (game makes sure to mention it multiple times), to Song's own deterriment. That kind of desperation is understandable, and familiar to V. So, to me, it only made sense to help Song possibly get her life back.
@gatts1989
@gatts1989 Жыл бұрын
She only confessed because she felt she was at a blink of dying, but if that wasn't the case, she would dissapear a never told V anything about the matrix. V would be waiting for a cure that would never came, because the person he/she trusted betrayed him. Her feelings can be understandable, but that doesn't make her actions less punishable.
@mnedogoda
@mnedogoda Жыл бұрын
I don't think Song knew about the "single use" of the matrix until she actually got her hands on that Cynosure thing and extracted it in mission Firestarter, at least that's what I got from her dialogue, so the timing was kinda awkward, with both her and V being on the run, I kinda choose to believe she simply didn't have the opportunity to come clean earlier, plus she obviosuly was hurt afterwards, both physically and mentally.
@mnedogoda
@mnedogoda Жыл бұрын
At the end, Song obviously regretted it, as she explained on the train. At that point, if she was still trying to con V, why would she admit it? V could still easily walk away, or turn her in, or just simply leave her if so desired.
@mnedogoda
@mnedogoda Жыл бұрын
Call me naive, but I believe that by sticking with Songbird all the way through the game, she for the first time in seven (probably many more) years actually begins to trust somebody enough to let them closer to her and actually share her real feelings. Somebody that's not trying to take advantage of her, or wants to use her for some selfish reason.
@Hitman2b
@Hitman2b Жыл бұрын
apparantly even the matrix didn't save her in the ending i choice but she alive
@DarthPingu07
@DarthPingu07 Жыл бұрын
The best netrunner alive and the best solo at deaths door carving their way through a fucking army. How these two don't end up as an item is beyond me. She truly cared for V at the end, came clean. And when V put their hand on her knee and sai "I'm with you to the end" damn. Never seen that side of V. The way they pushed her to keep going, keep fighting. The neurolink. Everything. It was perfect. I get why they didn't end up as something during the story, but in this ending So Mi gets her cure. It would've been fitting for her to return and help V get theirs.
@corasan5326
@corasan5326 Жыл бұрын
You missed the other half then, where you help Reed. I'd advise you to do it as the end is much better than this one to me. Talking about an end where she ends up almost crying in your arms, where Reeds recognize he did wrong and Myers is pissed of.
@dumdum5609
@dumdum5609 Жыл бұрын
Yeah something like lovers at death's door
@DarthPingu07
@DarthPingu07 Жыл бұрын
@@corasan5326 just watched that ending and it's a poor one for me. She's crying because she wants V to end it all, end her suffering. She doesn't want to live at that point and taking her back is a "fate worse than death". It's the ultimate betrayal, letting her live and handing her to Myers.
@thechangamire3495
@thechangamire3495 Жыл бұрын
@@corasan5326 Nah fam. The only way is sending her up. She didn't have to say shit, in the end, but she did. And I know V would've done the same thing she had, if we were them. That asides, Mr. Blue Eyes owes me a favor, after The Sun ending.
@solenefaivre7718
@solenefaivre7718 Жыл бұрын
totally agree with you. i don't know if it was intended by CDPR but i really felt the connexion between V and So Mi. It was so much different than with Judy or Panam... So Mi was just the unique person who could truly understand V and it shows. From the beginning i guess i knew she was all behind the attack against Myers but i still wanted to trust her, to learn her story despite the lies. when you speak with her at the "secret spot" you can understand how much she's desperate but purely broken. At this point, my character would've done everything to save her. i guess that her "revelation" in the train wasn't a big surprise for me, but she remains honest when she could've said nothing to V and disappear in the spaceship. She tell the truth to V because she knows that he/she will understand her actions and help her anyway. A sacrifice like this one, comes from a real, deep connection.
@thermicterror2951
@thermicterror2951 Жыл бұрын
People saying this isn't the good ending really need to look more into the events of the dlc and all the endings. This is the best ending. So Mi is cured (you get a message and present from her later that confirms it) Alex survives and eventually leaves the FIA (you go and speak to her in a quest after this ending where she tells you she's been ordered to kill you and you can give her the coin as proof. You get a postcard from her where she says she threw the coin away. So your actually on good terms with her.) Some people say So Mi is starting a war. Yes maybe she is starting a war but it was Myers who forced So Mi to do the extremely ilegal shit. Why should So Mi be forced to spend the rest of her life in a living hell just to protect Myers' illegal secrets. The NUSA and FIA are not the good guys. I think they dlc made that pretty clear. No party is wholly good, but So Mi just wants to be free and to have a chance at an actual life. I think that's something V can relate to heavily. V and So Mi's situations are very similar with one key difference. V choose this life and had to deal with the consequences. So Mi was forced into it. She has never had a choice. She could never walk away at any point like V could have and now the shit she was forced to do is killing her.
@HLGToys
@HLGToys Жыл бұрын
So Mi isn't one of the good guys too at least she has a good heart. In the other ending you see what she really is. Before FIA and NUSA she started out simple, a small fry, but she is manipulative, selfish, a liar, and estranges herself from others; the FIA and NUSA amplified that. Reed found her because she was about to be backed into a corner and would of been screwed. Reed gave her resources, honed her skills, and treated her like a daughter; however, FIA and NUSA treat their pawns like tools and they kept pushing her boundaries to the point she needed to escape. So Mi really needed to die because the damage she caused too much damage and she will only be seen as a tool, so killing her is really setting her free.
@grundergesellscahftmkii6196
@grundergesellscahftmkii6196 Жыл бұрын
yeah if you go with FIA, after you wake up in Langley there will be information within laptop that the NUSA will go to war again. so capturing So Mi for the premise of peace is bs.
@verdeletthedevil7848
@verdeletthedevil7848 Жыл бұрын
​​@@HLGToysso really, why should V care for So Mi when she's not even close to caring for V's life? She got her involved in this whole thing, knowing clearly that it risky as hell, but caring only about herself. And it turns out that the only moment So Mi is honest with V is when she tells her that all this was to save only herself, despite her fiery speeches about how hard it was following Myers illegal and dangerous orders and having no choice, about how V and her are alike, about how they understand each other. Telling V that they're the same, acting like a friend, then just sacrifice V's life for her own one without any damn doubt, any regrets, casually telling her that cure's only for her. That what friends do? Just fuckin' try to be sorry for what you did you two-faced snake. She's going with Reed not only because she's the reason a new war may start, but mainly cause she's just a hypocritical and manipulative no-good person.
@sergeycaplya6919
@sergeycaplya6919 Жыл бұрын
Ага, война, смерти большого числа людей? Пфф... Главное, что симпатичная кореянка жива. Симпы...😢
@jack-s4893
@jack-s4893 Жыл бұрын
The key difference between So Mi and V is that the latter isn't willing to be a manipulative scum who kills innocent civilians to save his own skin. So Mi doesn't deserve a happy ending, it doesn't matter what she wants considering what she's willing to do.
@MADPAOFFICIAL
@MADPAOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын
Using the black wall like that for the first time was the coolest thing. Loved it
@MrJakeasaur98
@MrJakeasaur98 Жыл бұрын
There is no "good" ending - it's all ambiguous, as neither side is entirely in the right or wrong. You either help someone who has gone to extremes in order to save their own life, something which V can surely understand better than most, or you act not only in the interests of justice but also to your own, instead of saving someone who desperately needs your help. That's precisely what makes the story great though. The world is rarely so black and white, and having a game with decisions reflecting the moral grey of most things in life is far more realistic and satisfying to experience than the constant good vs evil we often see in fiction.
@thermicterror2951
@thermicterror2951 Жыл бұрын
It's definitely grey still yeah but this is the best ending if you look more into it. If you give songbird back to Myers her life will be hell. She says herself it's a fate worse than death. In the betray song bird spare her route you find out the nusa weren't able to figure out how to use the AI the way songbird intended to and as such couldn't save her that way. That's how they're able to use it to cure V. Reed says they saved her another way but he doesn't disclose what that way was. Just that she is alive and that's all that matters. It's entirely possible they used their own version of soul killer on her turning her into an AI. Or they managed to repair her body somehow. Either way it probably wasn't good for song. You also find out in the new ending that reed has been completely cut off from song for quite sometime which in itself is bad. What he says about the treatment is also troubling. Its likely that they have brainwashed song and the song we knew is gone. In the credits of the new ending in the message from reed to V we see that even 2 years later reed is still torturing himself over what he did to song and is still having to convince himself that it was the right thing to do but is clearly failing. Johnny says in the betray reed, give song to reed route when you go to meet reed near the desert that reed will hang himself once it all finally kicks in. If you do what reed wants and betray song alex dies. In this ending Alex lives and even ends up on good terms with you and leaves the fia. The actual ending where V gets cured is not a good ending at all. The point of that ending was to show that despite V being on deaths door V had so much to lose. By not being around he negatively impacted everyone that cares about him/her. Judy was heart broken and had to move on cause she couldn't manage on her own. Panam was furious and doesn't want to see V anymore. Misty lost her shop and is leaving night city, vik sold out to a corp and became soft. River made bad choices and doesn't want to see V. Keri is doing fine but doesn't have time to see V anymore. V also has to try and start a new life. Something that will be hard for someone as famous as them. He lost everything in the pursuit of a longer life. All the video messages at the end are negative as well. This ending is on par with the sucide ending for how depressing it is. With the save songbird ending you do eventually get a text from her telling you to go back to her favorite place. There is a capsule there containing a fancy piece of cyberware for you and a souvenir from the city she went to on the moon. So unlike when the nusa tried to use the tech on her song was clearly able to use it to save herself if you go this route since she doesn't get as fucked up. Since her condition is not the same as yours there's also the chance that her nerves weren't screwed by the ai and she can still use cyberware.
@K41Z3RR
@K41Z3RR Жыл бұрын
​@@thermicterror2951 The best outcome is Songbird's death after betrayal. Betrayal - because she wanted to sacrifice people in the stadium. There were many civilians there. And the killing is out of mercy, because Songbird suffered too much. Next, you literally tell the president to **** off without asking her about treatment and without turning into a pathetic piece of ****. After that, you go to destroy Arasaka solo and meet Mr. Blue Eyes. It couldn't be better.
@thermicterror2951
@thermicterror2951 Жыл бұрын
Yes but if you do that Alex dies, songbird loses control, and kills tons of people anyway, reed is fired and blames you for songbirds death. All of myers dirty secrets are secure. The stadium decision was not a good enough reason to betray song. She had to do something to enable your escape and V says civlians might die. Song isn't intentionally killing everyone in the stadium. You can do this ending and then go do fear the reaper. Mr Blue Eyes is the one that arranged for Song to be taken to the Moon. You can see him watching you in the airport terminal. So if anything this route makes even more sense for meeting him later
@Blackvenom3564
@Blackvenom3564 Жыл бұрын
@@K41Z3RRIt’s really hypocritical to talk about other people killing other people when V does this basically for a living and guns down a whole fucking tower in order to save their life. Also with civilians dying if you take Alt with you who literally doesn’t spare anyone
@jack-s4893
@jack-s4893 Жыл бұрын
@@thermicterror2951 the stadium decision is not betrayal. You refuse to help the scumbag kill innocent civilians - that's really the only moral thing you can do there. As for the consequences you described - V cannot see the future. He can only either agree to her plan and become an accomplice in a mass murder of innocents or refuse, those are the choices V sees.
@気が進まない1205
@気が進まない1205 Жыл бұрын
My preferred ending after Reed came out as a liar and a deceiver. In Farida's clinic, where he gives you his "heart-to-heart" talk, he mentions he will do everything to help Songbird disappear, once captured. Simultaneously, in case you follow his plan with the ICEbreaker & meet with him at the gas station after giving up So Mi, he mentions she will live and return to active duty, meaning it was a play all-along to get her under Myers' leash. Meaning that only Songbird came clean to you of all the agency trash you had to deal with through the DLC.
@timkanaev2092
@timkanaev2092 Жыл бұрын
Well, songbird used us as well. The neuromatrix can be used only once and she planned to use that to cure herself, not V. While may be NUSA are cunts as well, but they'll fix V eventually. So there is no right ending in this story I believe, no one wins and no one loses. And there is no good nor bad guys. It is complicated. I personally didn't know who to trust because because they ALL LIE. So I trusted my gut and helped Reed.
@Ereshkigal616
@Ereshkigal616 Жыл бұрын
Songbird deserves a chance of her own choosing, and humanity as a whole deserves whatever the Blackwall has coming. 5th Corporate War is just bonus on the cake. I did this ending, and console commanded in the special cyberdeck/gun, so i'm a Blackwall Netrunner essentially now. The special item you get for fully going with Songbird, makes it really juicy. I played through all the endings, and Songbird getting to the moon, imo, is really the "best" option.
@GentlemanBystander
@GentlemanBystander Жыл бұрын
@@Ereshkigal616 So So Mi deserves a chance but the entire species can get mostly wiped out by the Black Wall collapse huh? Tell me you're mentally ill without telling me you're mentally ill.
@manamori
@manamori Жыл бұрын
@@GentlemanBystander the alternative is literally the same, except there she becomes a puppet on a tight leash to the NUS who then knows her full potential lol what are you saying. letting her be free or at least as free as she can be is infinitely safer in that scope
@cocodaldoc2
@cocodaldoc2 Жыл бұрын
@@GentlemanBystander checking that too
@AnotherAnonymousMan
@AnotherAnonymousMan Жыл бұрын
This is the correct ending. Pretty early on, it becomes clear that everyone is decieving/ using V. There is no "good guy" to side with but only one character is in their circumstance against their will. V doesn't win, regardless. Might as well save the only person who *can* be saved.
@valeriusohterus2315
@valeriusohterus2315 Жыл бұрын
Might I add, Alex lives in this ending too, so thats a bonus.
@MADPAOFFICIAL
@MADPAOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын
Wires and chainssssss starting to faaaaddde feels like a gaaaaame u can't escaaaapeee
@EternalNightingale
@EternalNightingale Жыл бұрын
No the correct ending is V realizing everyone is using them is correct but declining to help further by saying No to myers and Reed in the hideout thus failing the quest to continue the rest of the dlc :)
@valeriusohterus2315
@valeriusohterus2315 Жыл бұрын
@@EternalNightingale Objectively true, but where's the fun in that?
@alexcavazos3341
@alexcavazos3341 Жыл бұрын
​​@@EternalNightingalefactual tbh, myers would probably die, song would eventually find a way to leave to the moon and Reed. Reed gets to keep his principles and not die
@yegorperepelytsya7812
@yegorperepelytsya7812 Жыл бұрын
For me the best ending is sending So mi to the moon and afterwards crushing into Arasaka tower alone , I also believe that V has a chance for cure since it was Blue Eyes who helped So mi with her moon plan , I assume he has means to help v as well since Night Corp proved itself powerful enough , especially when it comes to brain manipulations , and even if they won’t help him, he has a chance to go out in blazing glory , becoming well-known legend , his dream and his legacy
@JohannMello
@JohannMello Жыл бұрын
This "Fuck, that hurts" from songbird broke my heart 1:30
@botep5529
@botep5529 Жыл бұрын
God this ending is soooo good. Two people on borrowed time linking up to unleash the blackwall (not to mention the music during that incredible scene) the revelation on the train ride, and the final showdown with reed in the rain. Totally an action thriller movie ending
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't go against Reed... So I betrayed So Mi instead and got tramatized by Somewhat Damaged
@Scurzes
@Scurzes Жыл бұрын
But after all she isn't truly free is she? Mr blue eyes was behind it all, as he is seen on the top floor just before you board the train towards the orbital ship. He could he a rogue AI trying to use So Mi perhaps? Because if you betray her, you get a message and from the grammar it doesn't seem to be a human, but an AI trying to get the data of the cure.
@Lanes3
@Lanes3 10 ай бұрын
@@Scurzes thats cope. cyberpunk's core message has always been to leave NC behind to truly be happy and free. You see it happening with Judy, Panam, V, and now Songbird.
@Scurzes
@Scurzes 10 ай бұрын
@Laine-wp6bb yeah true I suppose that's a good point. But she is pretty powerful so no doubt that she might be used as an experiment or the sorts, happy or not
@DayWheeLOn
@DayWheeLOn 6 ай бұрын
"she made it, preem thats what counts." you are right Johnny... Thats what counts.
@josepharrington8391
@josepharrington8391 Жыл бұрын
even though it is underwhelming compared to the other TPL ending i like this one the best because 1) so mi lives & is free, alex lives 2) johnny respects your choice 3) johnny doesn't get robbed of his only chance to live (with alt) 4) V isn't robbed of his chance to take down arasaka & become a legend yes like any cyberpunk ending it is bitterwsweet but V still lives and dies on his own terms, accepting his ultimate fate with johnny, also his friends wont forget about them
@serjfomichev
@serjfomichev Жыл бұрын
1) So Mi technically lives in 3 of 4 endings, though she doesn't deserve to live and for all that she's done her fate must be much worse than death 2) We don't need approval of walking failure, terrorist and ultimate loser, on the contrary - if this worm approves something than we should do exactly opposite. 3) Terrorists should be dead, not getting second chances. 4) All V needs is quiet life far away from Night City. Position of FIA support agent - meaning earning hefty sum of eddies for pretty easy paperwork in a cozy Langley cabinet - fits this perfectly. Prove me wrong XD
@josepharrington8391
@josepharrington8391 Жыл бұрын
​@@serjfomichev lmao
@SumtingWong343
@SumtingWong343 Жыл бұрын
There is no good ending truly... It's all a matter of perspective, to me So Mi is nothing more than an hypocrite. She followed orders from her boss and got herself to far into the netrunning game. Yes she was used, but in the end she used and manipulated V to get what she needed, juste like Myers did with her. To me Reed is the one that deserved a second chance. He was trapped into is past traumas and was torn between is need to care and protect is friends, but also do what was right for the NUSA. And Idealist with a great heart. The ending where you side with him and kill So Mi to give her peace is the best IMO. Reed finally get the chance to start again. In the end it truly feels like he's learned and changed, can't say much about So Mi
@Hitman2b
@Hitman2b Жыл бұрын
even johnny see himself in reed
@SangheliosGaming
@SangheliosGaming 4 ай бұрын
nah, just send Somi to space
@Metaphix
@Metaphix Жыл бұрын
This DLC is like witcher 3 blood and wine, so much content and so incredibly well done. I got this ending too and when the credits rolled it legit made me feel things like i had just watched a 10/10 movie. For me this ending fits the best because you can still do the Johnny secret arasaka ending or the Panam ending after it, and it makes sense to me that V, even though he usually kills people who lie and fuck him over, would see that she did not do it for simple greed, she was desperate for her life and freedom from people who saw her as a technological tool to be used and discarded and so she did terrible things. I think V would see himself in her because that's what V does the entire game, kills people, lies, cheats and steals to stay alive and to inch one step at a time towards freedom and survival. So to me forgiving this one person who he sees himself in and helping her anyways after she fucked him is V acknowledging his own human faults. How he was just like Reed and Myers and forgiving himself as well as her as he heads into the final leg of his journey. He tells Reed "You aint doin this for the NUS or Myers, you're doing this for you alone" that was V before this DLC- he wanted to get rich, survive the soul killer relic, and become a night city legend and told himself whatever horrible things he did would be worth it, but in this ending he grows beyond that. The ends no longer justify the means, even if it means giving up on a possible cure for himself. Maybe i'm rambling but i thought this ending was really beautiful. CDPR once again elevating the medium of video games.
@Moshe54
@Moshe54 Жыл бұрын
utltimately, this ending is about compassion and being to loyal to what really matters, the truth, and the victims of this universe. V may of been lied to by so mi, but they stick it out and save her life, knowing what she feels, to save her life is a victory over the powers that control the world, it may end in chaos, people may die, but at least isn't hiding in its own deceit and hypocrisy.
@XStreet1985
@XStreet1985 Жыл бұрын
This ending is irrational but beautiful, launching songbird into space is a symbol of hope for V and Johnny.
@vkFlare
@vkFlare Жыл бұрын
In the whole story, various playthroughs of an original game I've never felt anybody was an equal match to V, whether romanceable was the character or not. There is literally no single person who has a goal, a purpose, who made tough and wrong choices and had to deal with them thereafter. There was no person who was used over and over again due to something under they sole possession, noone that meant harm to nobody and yet had to choose whom to betray as V had to. Throughout the story we didn't even fully realise that Song was this person, until the few last chapters. Her confession in the train was the finishing stroke as our equal - she just got used to give zero trust to others, just like V, especially after Dex and the Konpeki heist. And that particular moment, even after her confession, still feeling that her life worths sacrificing our own - this makes this ending the true jewel among all the others, no matter the outcomes.
@Rodneygonazaled
@Rodneygonazaled Жыл бұрын
I cant side with her because she just lies and never tells the whole truth
@thedarkderp2520
@thedarkderp2520 Жыл бұрын
Well she wouldn't have been a spy if she wasn't good at lying same goes for Reed it's why i like this dlc which liar do you trust more is up to you
@Rodneygonazaled
@Rodneygonazaled Жыл бұрын
@@thedarkderp2520 reed is much more honest while if you do song bird ending she knows that it was a one use fix but she lied still
@kingofheavymetal
@kingofheavymetal Жыл бұрын
@@Rodneygonazaled Reed lie through his teeth all the time too, thats his job
@EthanNuuu
@EthanNuuu Жыл бұрын
@@RodneygonazaledReed lies to you too, he’s trying to get her back into the system
@SniffPum
@SniffPum 6 ай бұрын
You think you're saving Songbird in this ending. What you're really doing is delivering a blackwall nuke right into the hands of Mr.Blue Eyes. Ya know, the same Mr.Blue Eyes who was behind Night Corp, the same Mr.Blue Eyes who brainwashed the NC Mayor/Mayor's Wife. The same Mr.Blue Eyes thats eluded to as a Rogue AI by Johnny Silverhand in the Dream On quest ending. I'm sure hes saving her though >_>;
@Paragon231
@Paragon231 Жыл бұрын
This is the best choice, both Johnny and Jackie are proud. Meanwhile you go off to crush Arasaka and go off with the Aldecados.
@ethereality1503
@ethereality1503 Жыл бұрын
I didn't want to make these choices, they all broke me
@ethereality1503
@ethereality1503 Жыл бұрын
The blackwall really is a terrifying force
@peo733
@peo733 Жыл бұрын
@@ethereality1503 Its not the Blackwall that is terrifying its what lurks behind it and what songbird is letting out
@orthrusthetoad
@orthrusthetoad Жыл бұрын
​@@peo733we call those bartmoss' playthings
@j.echevarria8630
@j.echevarria8630 Жыл бұрын
It helps if you tell yourself V isn’t a good person either. V is an anti-hero even in the most passive role-play. A shot a redemption is good enough but knowing it comes with a higher price is totally fair given Vs past. I think as bittersweet as the Reed ending is, it puts an end to a saga. The only great legend to survive.
@Legacy-613
@Legacy-613 Жыл бұрын
there is no good or bad ending, all of them are masterpiece
@jasonoctane6372
@jasonoctane6372 Жыл бұрын
Best one is to send her to moon. Give it a hope and Alex dont need to die. But I was so mad that they didn't give an option that we can do all that without kill Reed.
@SangheliosGaming
@SangheliosGaming 4 ай бұрын
I see Reed as a collateral damage
@XStreet1985
@XStreet1985 Жыл бұрын
This the first Phantom Liberty ending i got , haven't seen others yet. I am happy with this one :)
@kxmode
@kxmode Жыл бұрын
The Reed path, though notably more difficult, offers added insight into Reed and So Mi's backstory along with other unmentioned surprises. It's worth playing through by loading a save point just before making the choice.
@kxmode
@kxmode Жыл бұрын
The game eschews traditional "good" or "bad" endings for two unique branches: "Bittersweet" and "Realistic," each with minor variations. The Bittersweet ending imparts a positive feel, whereas the Realistic one provides additional backstory. A particular choice in both routes unlocks a new main ending with an unexpected twist. Having played both paths, the Realistic one is not only shorter and significantly tougher, complete with a couple jump-scares, but it also enriches So Mi and Reed's relationship backstory. This added context makes it worth experiencing firsthand, or you can catch it on KZbin.
@Dominick77
@Dominick77 Жыл бұрын
Good ending for Song So Mi. V is still dying after this.
@shidenkai2099
@shidenkai2099 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that "don't fear the reaper" is the proper way to go out with a boom, solving problems by yourself. so I agreed to help her without any expectations for a cure. Yet for a brief moment I was tiny bit bummed. But not about the lack of cure, rather her lying to V. So it is understandable if some were disappointed in her. But looking back to interactions with So Mi, it was obvious she deeply regrets on the inside for lying, sometimes lashing out on V for it as she feels tormented by his/her kind and honest responses and optimism where V says He/She trusts her, or moments where So Mi is mutely shaking her head when V talks about cure. I couldn't be mad at her because she didn't lie out of spite or with the intention of hurting V, and I agreed with Johnny that her determination to commit acts she herself did not like to do, commanded some respect. Probably that's why I choosed the same "Would've helped you anyway" line. So Mi saw herself when she learned about V, the only kindred spirit with the same or even stronger determination than her, probably partly why she contacted V in the first place too: respect. My theory is that the only thing she did not expect is to get attached to V, seeing more in common than just strongwill and building further up the already present guilt in herself. Also V was the only "real" person she could talk to about her hardships and past, (especially while Kurt and his men were breathing on her neck daily) unlike Myers or the loyal dogs of the FIA like Reed, who was unwilling to put So Mi above his duty (he was the same as Takemura) I really liked this ending.
@andreysmirnov8892
@andreysmirnov8892 11 ай бұрын
Having explored the lore of Cyberpunk pretty deep, i realized the neural matrix was single-use the first time it was brought up. Yet, I think this is the best ending. Songbird is the only true friend V may ever have, understanding their pain, will to survive... If there's someone V can put their trust into, it's her. Not only does Songbird survive and heal, she tells V how to save themselves. It's an optional dialogue, while storming the terminal V can ask So Mi who got her a ticket to Luna, and she will tell V about a blue-eyed proxy man in a black suit (you can actually see him obeserve you at 3:06). That's the same guy who makes a deal with V in The Sun ending. Meaning he kept his side of the bargain, and V survived AND became a legend.
@bell5082
@bell5082 11 ай бұрын
I truly hope we find out. I hope V does get to live, though just like everything else, it will cost a lot... maybe too much.
@DeathKid1000
@DeathKid1000 10 ай бұрын
@@bell5082 It does, i won't say why but yeah
@wakeupmrrra
@wakeupmrrra Жыл бұрын
this was the ending I went with, unfortunately killing reed is the shortest path in this dlc though. nothing happens after this bit really. all of the more anti-songbird paths are much longer. This comment section is so reassuring. this is the ending I got first playtnough of 2023. When I play cyberpunk, I try as much as possible to be myself in dialogue choices. each first-time ending ive gotten for both the base game and the dlc i reslly liked. its so rewarding
@DrMa7sheye
@DrMa7sheye 7 ай бұрын
Good ending for V: He goes to the moon instead of her, why wasn't that an option ? for once let the dude have a good ending.
@totalrko
@totalrko Жыл бұрын
Nope, it doesn't add up for me. If she had just been upfront about the one-time use, I would've gladly assisted her. But the fact that she's betraying everyone who supported her, expecting sympathy based on her past, is laughable. I've only known her for a few days, and I only agreed because she promised a cure. I've risked life and limb in this add-on, so why would I just let it slide? It's like storming Arasaka and then saying, "Okay, I'm done, let's go" right before Mikoshi. V's sole objective is to survive and find a cure. Why opt for the "maybe there's a cure" ending when there's a definite cure available? Johnny and I weren't the closest of friends (about 85%, I believe), and sometimes, his statements were illogical. He mentioned how his life would be completely gone if we pursued this path. Hate to break it to him, but his life ended about 50 years ago; he's not supposed to be here..
@thehybrid3947
@thehybrid3947 Жыл бұрын
Tbh out of all the endings from being shot by Reed to sending Songbird off and getting cured and being in a coma for 2 years this one is a good one because even if V lost the only chance to save himself/herself they gave Songbird freedom from all the chaos and gave V even a bit more hope to let them live another day knowing that the key may lie in Arasaka.
@giga53
@giga53 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention that Mr. Blue Eyes is the one that got her that ticket from her description and he makes an appearence in the terminal bigger play here
@NfinET
@NfinET Жыл бұрын
I remember playing the Songbird ending for the first time. I had so much faith that she would be able to cure V. But when she revealed the truth about the neural matrix, it absolutely broke me. And I spent so much time trying to decide whether to turn her over to Reed or make good on my promise. It hurt me so much, but I ended up turning her over to Reed. It was truly devastating. Props to CDPR for ripping into my decision-making skills every-which-way.
@martinmikulasek2311
@martinmikulasek2311 Жыл бұрын
It played out the exactly same way for me... I may have hated So Mi's guts (I'm kinda confused seeing a lot of people hating Reed and defending So Mi when her manipulation is on a whole different level, she disregards lifes of hundreds of other people she doesn't even know and KNOWS she will leave you behind to be hunted by NUSA if she makes you help her) but I sided with her as I saw it as the only realistic option to cure V (which is pretty much the only reason we even got into this mess in the first place). After the neural matrix revelation I had exactly zero reasons to go through with it and turned her in as well - and I believe we are the ones who got the actual good ending, however bittersweet it was. Everybody lives, V has a shot at normal life. Fuck Songbird.
@sammool6800
@sammool6800 Жыл бұрын
For me I def felt the most cathartic ending was siding with Reed, then killing Songbird.
@Sonny_Doro
@Sonny_Doro Жыл бұрын
The way you can simply expose Meyers is incredible. So fucking real.
@kxmode
@kxmode Жыл бұрын
If you choose not to kill Songbird, a new main ending is unlocked.
@sammool6800
@sammool6800 Жыл бұрын
@@kxmode i mean yeah, but it's def a pretty bad ending.
@EternalNightingale
@EternalNightingale Жыл бұрын
Same that ending felt more real, reed walks away hoping so mi finds peace, we granted songs last request to die also it would be more appropriate for Hansen to suspect in the meeting with V undercover it felt more natural imo than Alex just straight up slaying Hansen and no boss fight… also myers declined V help so so doesn’t get the alternative ending and imo v chooses the Devil ending instead
@Surrender_Dorothy
@Surrender_Dorothy Жыл бұрын
I did all 4 endings and the new ending to the game too. I think the new ending where V is cured made me cry the most.
@drayy8
@drayy8 Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie. I looked up every ending right before I did firestarter and I STILL spent too much time thinking about which route to go. You know the writing is good when you have no idea what side is good or bad.
@sillylittlesheepjax6009
@sillylittlesheepjax6009 Жыл бұрын
thats the worse thing you can do, never spoil yourself in story game
@KidOmnipotent
@KidOmnipotent Жыл бұрын
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 Only if youre the type of person that views the journey as worthless and the destination as the only thing that matters
@DeathKid1000
@DeathKid1000 10 ай бұрын
@@sillylittlesheepjax6009 To me its worse, you take a look, spoiling yourself, and do those choices without considering how honest and personal you are with yourself. You got consider what the choices mean and what you may be putting someone through. If you don't self reflect on these things, what can that say about you?
@Name-ru3di
@Name-ru3di Жыл бұрын
So Mi thought everyone was there for themselves, that she couldn't trust anyone truly this the only ending you prove her wrong. After what she been through I could relate, guess thats why I wanted to save her so badly. Even if V doesn’t get the cure, as the saying goes 'don't let the bastards grind you down'.
@jebathehutt4287
@jebathehutt4287 Жыл бұрын
This plus storming Arasaka tower/Don't Fear The Reaper ending is my canon/fanon, since both Songbird and me get contacted by Mr Blue Eyes to do a gig that eventually ends up with both of us in space
@sebastian.c7222
@sebastian.c7222 Жыл бұрын
What the hell is that monstrosity of a skin for Johnny
@Stasis-Warlock
@Stasis-Warlock Жыл бұрын
BRO WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN JUST SHOOT REED IN THE SHOULDER. I tried to talk him out of it like 3-4 times. I shot him in the head. I feel like a monster.
@asharri5656
@asharri5656 Жыл бұрын
im happy that i did sent somi to moon but at the same time killing reed was really hard and the moment somi sending u a gift from the moon and confirm that she didnt die is such a nice feeling. I respect CDPR for not doing more dlcs but at the same time phantom liberty was so good that i just want more
@MRTT267
@MRTT267 11 ай бұрын
glad that this is my first choosen ending path in that dlc..
@attackontitanfollower
@attackontitanfollower Жыл бұрын
I broke down laughing when she told us the truth and still proceeded to help her
@GhostwalkerSparrow
@GhostwalkerSparrow Ай бұрын
V being used is basically what happens over and over again
@MrTNemmers
@MrTNemmers Жыл бұрын
Didn’t know when you shot Reed in the chest he falls down slowly with a couple extra words before he dies. When I drew and shot it was a headshot and he died instantly falling flat to his back
@MAX33820
@MAX33820 Жыл бұрын
this ending and secret ending .Johnny both said the word "legend"to V
@Pyred89
@Pyred89 5 ай бұрын
Born to help Songbird, forced to betray her for Erebus.
@youdontneedtoknow106
@youdontneedtoknow106 Жыл бұрын
Wish the french twins survived the DLC but this is the good ending for sure like your actual friend survives you screw over a corrupt tyrant reed the puppet dies and alex survives and keeps on decent terms with V and you can drink to ev jackie johnny and forget who else when you meet up with alex
@conecrazy
@conecrazy Жыл бұрын
PL had so much depth. So much emotion. I had to take a break when it ended.
@gatts1989
@gatts1989 Жыл бұрын
I was going to help her to go to the moon to look for the cure, but after she confessed in the train... I said "fuck you" and call Reed. The stab that she made in V back is pretty deep. Btw guys stop arguing if this is a good or bad ending. You should already know that there is not entirely good or bad endings in CP2077 with the exception of the Nomad ending.
@dugnice
@dugnice Жыл бұрын
Idk, I think "The devil" is an entirely bad ending, as is the suicide ending, where V shoots himself to death. There is no satisfaction for the player in either of those endings, although technically speaking there is an end to V's suffering as a result of the Relic's malfunctioning. Therefore I would say there is no entirely good ending, but there are at least 2 entirely bad endings, at least in terms of player satisfaction.
@NapFloridian
@NapFloridian Жыл бұрын
My 1.0 play through back in 2020 was with the Nomands... It was a great play through
@kxmode
@kxmode Жыл бұрын
Ironically that decision benefits V.
@LVD3NS
@LVD3NS Жыл бұрын
I didn't do Reed's path, but it's very easy to infer why Songbird would want to flee the NUSA so badly, and it's hard to trust Reed when he says he'll "bring her back safe and sound" when he's sending mixed signals about the fact she's a traitor and will "have to answer to treason." None of the people you end up with in Phantom Liberty are entirely honest with you, except Songbird by the end of the DLC, who'll admit that the matrix will only work on one person (which she might not even have known until Firestarter)". It's also clear from all sides that Songbird's had to break the international law at the cost of her personal health and her reputation for Myers, without really having had a choice (it's even implied she was taken into the FIA and didn't have much of a choice in the matter). For my V, the choice was easy; he'd help the person who genuinely needed to get away from her terrible situation to survive, and he'd see her situation is worse than his. He'd understand he has other avenues for a cure whilst *Songbird does not.* And more importantly, he'd do the noble, truly selfless thing by giving up the sure cure for himself to give it to another. I find this ending poetic because of the aforementioned factors and even bittersweet. It's one thing V did for someone else that changed their life forever.
@marcusm8755
@marcusm8755 Жыл бұрын
This ending plus Panam ending are good
@BrokenWheelYT
@BrokenWheelYT Жыл бұрын
This one is good ending to me, I already done all of them plus epilogue ending this one I choose to keep goin. If you choose this one a couple of days later Song send you a msg. and send you 2 gift from Moon, so you can know She is good after all.
@Oraoraoraorra
@Oraoraoraorra 10 ай бұрын
Bro, im not the only one who thinks Songbird is just adorable
@Bonhulio
@Bonhulio Жыл бұрын
I know its not much, but I had shot Reed in the head in this mission and he just flopped over. I didn't know he had extra dialouge if you shot him in the chest. Has anyone tried shooting him in the legs?
@_Zer0Gr4vity_
@_Zer0Gr4vity_ Жыл бұрын
Daaamn, even Reed's end has multiple options. I shot him in the head and just went down, didn't know they programmed an entire get on knee, slow death sequence for him.
@botep5529
@botep5529 Жыл бұрын
The look of fear/sadness/fatigue on So Mis face is just so well animated. Devs went all out on facial expressions in this game. Well done CDPR
@MikePowers-ed8ml
@MikePowers-ed8ml Жыл бұрын
Best ending will always be leaving with the nomads. And now its heavily implied V lives
@dronihack
@dronihack Жыл бұрын
I did not liked this ending, it just shows that Songbird is paranoid and selfish. She basically screws over anybody even V while you keep helping her. The only upside is as I feel is that Alex survives I guess. But I also do like that this ending in a sense that I think this is incredible character writing and I feel it fits perfectly when you try to stick to Songbird. Some people tend to say it was for the greater good, while in this ending it would sound more like I sacrificed everything for Songbird which is in a sense the greater good, all the people that died by the Blackwall etc. Also try out 100% the other ending where you cooperate with Reed there is a section that has Outlast vibes, I was very surprised when I played it and I enjoyed all of it.
@shoazdon7000
@shoazdon7000 Жыл бұрын
The thing is the conversation is hinting at the fact that she doesn’t find out the cure can only be used once until she gets the AI in the fire starter mission. So it makes everything even more tragic and sad
@kylemonteiro7143
@kylemonteiro7143 Жыл бұрын
No matter what V gets F over, he lives everyone leaves. Keep the chip in you die young
@willb6913
@willb6913 Жыл бұрын
This really is the good ending despite the somewhat tragic way Reed's story concludes. I couldn't bring myself to kill her in the Cynosure ending and otherwise I think any ending where the FIA 'saves' Songbird and cures V is more heartbreaking than anything else in this game, at least with this ending you get the realization that Songbird finally got free and as V you still have the option to pursue the various Mikoshi based endings.
@saiowsyndicate2180
@saiowsyndicate2180 Жыл бұрын
contrary think this was a better path for reed, man was a walkin corpse, even after the other ending man just wasnt there anymore
@willb6913
@willb6913 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't disagree. Even when you do everything that Reed wants he still seems pretty unhappy with the result. @@saiowsyndicate2180
@Scurzes
@Scurzes Жыл бұрын
But after all she isn't truly free is she? Mr blue eyes was behind it all, as he is seen on the top floor just before you board the train towards the orbital ship. He could he a rogue AI trying to use So Mi perhaps? Because if you betray her, you get a message and from the grammar it doesn't seem to be a human, but an AI trying to get the data of the cure. I do think letting her die was the most peaceful one. She wasn't herself, thr blackwall her infected her too much. You can see the difference in her when you betray her, who she becomes. And by the end of cynosure you see her trueself.
@Lao_moon
@Lao_moon Жыл бұрын
This was my first ending and then I thought, hey let's check out the other ones - felt like shit and had to play it again just to not be fucking depressed.
@IchbinX
@IchbinX Жыл бұрын
I actually shot Reed in the head, so he didnt even get a slow, dramatic death. Interesting.
@SoulSlayer_96
@SoulSlayer_96 Жыл бұрын
wow! cdpr
@OCSmoke8
@OCSmoke8 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if you can you shoot him in the leg
@Hitman2b
@Hitman2b Жыл бұрын
wonder if you can just neutralise him by shooting the arms or legs
@witcherpie
@witcherpie Жыл бұрын
honestly so mi is not worth helping, ye she's a tragic character, but she's a danger to everyone, she can't ever escape and live a normal life. Death is the only solution for her
@Rosegoldshawwty
@Rosegoldshawwty Жыл бұрын
I really liked so mi, made me really sad there’s no true good ending for her or v.
@kxmode
@kxmode Жыл бұрын
There sort of is. In either path, you have to give up So Mi alive to Reed. I'll let you experience the rest...
@EternalNightingale
@EternalNightingale Жыл бұрын
I think letting so mi die in the core is a good ending for her let’s her go on her terms and not be used by the Nusa there’s more context for songbird going that route than helping her go to space
@novelaforme
@novelaforme Ай бұрын
The "You can't win" approach of Cyberpunk endings is such a breath of fresh air in the gaming industry. No matter what you do, you truly cannot win on your own terms.
@crashoverride23
@crashoverride23 Жыл бұрын
There is no good ending. V's story is a tragedy it's not about you surviving it's about you helping the people around you. If you pick the secret ending where you go alone with Johnny at the end nobody else has to die in the original game. If you call Reed after deciding to side with song after you get her to the train then Alex Songbird and Reed survive you get the cure but it's not really a cure. You can never use cyberware again if you do you'll die and you are in a coma for two years. Panam and all your friends ghosted you then you vanish in to the crowd in night city just an average Joe which means you'll be killed sooner than later. I feel like most players forgot what Dex asked V in their first meeting because it's extremely important to the outcome of the game. Blaze of Glory or die of old age sitting in your own piss.
@SnakeHelah
@SnakeHelah Жыл бұрын
Well that's true. But the blaze of glory is just sort of like the journey. The potential cure is the "destination" for V. But yeah the storyline is definitely a staple dystopian tragedy. Most games usually let you be the hero. But there aren't really any heroes in Night City.
@EternalNightingale
@EternalNightingale Жыл бұрын
In all the endings there’s a price to pay, Vs story comes in an end will there be a canon choice that CDPR will use to mention what happens to V in future projects? Maybe all we know is V is a legendary NC solo and will probably follow morgan black hands route of no one knowing what’ll happen to them…
@bobsandwich3431
@bobsandwich3431 8 ай бұрын
Nah it doesn't mean you'll be killed sooner than later I mean you literally contradict yourself with last sentence. Just means V is a nobody and an average Joe and he's out of the game. He has a chance to live a new life but it cost letting go of everything in his previous life. You can easily see it as die young and live a life of excitement or live long enough to live a meaningful and peaceful one. V has a greater chance at happiness now that he isn't allowed to be back in the game that eventually kills or causes irreversible trauma to everyone involved.
@InfInityNoir
@InfInityNoir Жыл бұрын
fully expected songbird to betray me in the end but still chose to help her, my only regret was having to kill reed to get there
@marzialalfonzocanada888
@marzialalfonzocanada888 Жыл бұрын
I honestly like Reed's character but daaaamn he's such a fcking loyal dog to Myers all his decisions are for the benefit of the NUSA
@kxmode
@kxmode Жыл бұрын
"It's hard to teach an old dog new tricks."
@Brainflayer
@Brainflayer Жыл бұрын
First song I heard on the in-game radio after the credits played was "I Really Wanna Stay at Your House", the code aligned to kick me while I was down lol.
@HydroFoam
@HydroFoam Жыл бұрын
0:00 - 2:30 Coolest part of the game for me personally, they way you use the blackwall like that. Had me imagining doing sh*t like that irl lol
@SoulSlayer_96
@SoulSlayer_96 Жыл бұрын
truly op! it's like Ciri in Witcher 3 op
@corasan5326
@corasan5326 Жыл бұрын
You can have a Cyberdeck in the game to do some blackwall trickery btw, but that's in the ending where you help Reed :D
@minutenreis
@minutenreis Жыл бұрын
it reminded me a lot of the "apple of eden" in older AC titles (AC3 and AC Brotherhood specifically) and I loved those missions at the end where you are just stupidly OP, then again its not even that different from 1.6 Netrunner
@burzslaw
@burzslaw Жыл бұрын
​​@@minutenreiswhy everyone talks about 1.6 netrunners? There is a fucking implant that gives you 100% crit on quivkhacks in PL that makes you even more busted
@SnakeHelah
@SnakeHelah Жыл бұрын
The AI stuff I bet is gonna have some major plotlines in CP 2. DLC teasing it just seems confirm it.
@dynamicphotography_
@dynamicphotography_ 10 ай бұрын
CDPR deserves kudos for this masterpiece.
@Second_Splitter
@Second_Splitter Жыл бұрын
Choose this ending because Songbird was fully justified in removing and saving herself from the claws of the NUSA which forced her to go beyond the Blackwall. Killed Reed with no doubts because the moment I heard that he said that the situation changed it screamed manipulation to me.
@miru6005
@miru6005 8 ай бұрын
God the soundtrack during this scene 'Songbird's confession' is so sooooo good, I get goosebumps everytime I listen to it
@reubensemmanuel5926
@reubensemmanuel5926 Жыл бұрын
I disagree that this is the good ending. In the world of Cyberpunk when V gets to actually live and that’s what we’re fighting for. There’s soon many ways V can get a new body transplant. So I don’t get the wanting to side with a girl who’s willing to kill a crap ton of people to save her own skin. Meanwhile V is told by rouge he/she is a living legend already at the end of the credits. Upon that you have NuSa contacts and pull now. So getting a new body isn’t outside the possibility. Not sorry to say we were looking to save V’s life. Nothing more. V literally beat death. Living Legend and you’re a fool otherwise.
@sammywoj7924
@sammywoj7924 Жыл бұрын
You forgot some important details. V might have other options, but So Mi does not. If she doesnt get a cure, she will die and/or turned into a WMD( which in case you forgot, was the only reason the president kept her alive,to use Songbird as a weapon) So the choice in this case is saving V or saving the world.
@kingofheavymetal
@kingofheavymetal Жыл бұрын
Songbird voice actress is amazing in this path.
@FictionPC
@FictionPC Жыл бұрын
So Mi made out alive, she'll send you an iconic implant
@SMcG-ee8mu
@SMcG-ee8mu Жыл бұрын
Though this isn’t the best ending. Both Reed and Songbird must love to get that one 😅
@bossmitchell3455
@bossmitchell3455 Жыл бұрын
After what happened to goro this a good ending trust me
@Zizaa95
@Zizaa95 Жыл бұрын
what do you mean? care to explain?
@minutenreis
@minutenreis Жыл бұрын
@@Zizaa95 in the NUSA ending Takemura tries to overthrow Yorinobu with Hanako, it fails and Hanako dies. Hanakos Death is put on his shoulders and he is a fugitive once more. Then again as much as I like Takemura, Hanako is trying to bring back Saburo which is definitely a worse fate than Yorinobu at the top. Especially with Yorinobus history of trying to bring Arasaka to its knees.
@drlukas4242
@drlukas4242 Жыл бұрын
What is that supposed to mean? Every ending is bad for Goro except Arasaka and you can't tell me that the Arasaka ending is a good option.
@bartcheeks
@bartcheeks Жыл бұрын
this was crazy, so much better ending emotion-wise vs the original IMO heart ached for songbird throughout despite the betrayal, actually felt bad shooting reed, and the end credit song just wrapped everything up beautifully
@MichRoyal
@MichRoyal Жыл бұрын
I feel the saddest part of this ending is Reed. I feel it cements the fact that Reed does care about V. In fact, he cares about all the main players, as cold as he is perceived at times. Him coming out of the ship at the very end shows that he was pretty much tracking V the whole time, likely ever since he got on the tram with So Mi. The final confrontation also shows that he was struggling hard with the idea of killing V. One could argue that he was only acting to protect So Mi, which is why he didn't move in on V, but I don't buy it. He had ample opportunity, especially when V is carrying So Mi, or the moment he/she puts her down, to basically take out V quick and easy. He hesitated up to the very last moment, which is what got him killed by V in this ending. Time and again he had the ability to act purely off logic and complete his mission to take out V, but he couldn't bring himself to do it. I think this also symbolizes why he imo says to himself, "Too... too damn late." Then he passes on, because although he was cemented in his convictions that taking in So Mi was for the greater good, he couldn't overcome the fact that also meant sacrificing V who'd he'd come to care for as one of his own agents, just as much as So Mi I think.
@fabior.9326
@fabior.9326 Жыл бұрын
I agree with your comment I believe that Reed saw the only chance for songbirds survival, to take her back to the agency. The fact that Myers wanted her back, plays a second role here. The writing and characters in this expansion are top notch. Always on the edge of who and what to believe
@MichRoyal
@MichRoyal Жыл бұрын
@@fabior.9326 Yeah it makes me so sad because like you said, I feel Reed not only felt that it was Songbird's only chance for survival, but he also felt the need to find a way to retrieve her without hurting V. That's why he tries so hard to convince V to give her up at the end, and despite all you did, if you do, still gives you the surgery you need. If he truly hated you, he'd probably tell you to F off the moment he retrieved So Mi. As said, he also has ample oppurtunity to retrieve So Mi without directly confronting V, and likely could've killed him with a good shot at the back of the head, or front, without instead choosing to dramatically walk out of the tram and confront V directly and try to convince him/her. I think Reed had come to care for V, just like So Mi had grown to care for V, and thus you became the immovable obstacle for him in the end. He was a secret agent who so easily took so many lives before, yet he hesitates with you? Why? And I think that's what he was struggling with the whole confrontation. "Too damn late."
@aureliengll3021
@aureliengll3021 Жыл бұрын
I'm french so excuse me in advance for the faults. I like to roleplay this game as if i was myself really V, dans react and act exactly as if it was really me from the start to the end. When we were on dogtown and that the choice helping so mi or reeeds appeared, i chose to help so mi. I don't know why, because i was planing to gelp reeds and the fia but...i did it that's all. And from this i told myself that I'll help her no matter what now that i decided to help her. I wouldn't let her down no mattet what. On the spatio port, in the car, i "felt" more and more like i wouldn't survive all of this story and that so mi was hiding something big to me, but i continued as if nothing, i don't know why but here it is. When so mi told me there was only one person who could use the treatment, I'm not gonna lie, i got really angry and disappointed for a few seconds, but...in the same way i couldn't really blame her and i chose to reconfort her as much as possible. I decided to help so mi to the end, necause i promised to help her. I carried so mi to the spatial vehicle and when reeds appeared i really got surprised (yeah im stupid lol) and was like "don't tell me to choose between you two please" I talked with him, tried to convince him, i did everything i could to not blame him, and to make so mi situation acceptable for him... But it was impossible and when reeds proposed me to give so mi for the treatment, i hesitated for a few seconds but then i reminded why i was helping so mi, even if she had betrayed me everytime : beacuse in the end she chose to told us the truth, she started to care paradoxally for us, but more than everything she was "like" me, she was dying ane worse, it never was her fault. It was simple : she had the right to live. Yes, she could start after that a war and yes it was terrifying for me (no that i saw a little bit of the IA behind the black wall powers) but i didn't want to abandon so mi. Unlike me, she had no other options, it was her only chance. So... I fought reeds and killed him. Not gonna lie, that made me really sad, i regretted, a lot, because reeds was a character i deeply respected. But in the end it was better for him, to die with his principes, him who already died inside a few years ago. I carried so mi in the vehicle, thinking about the life i could have lived without the relic with panam and the aldecaldos, and then i came to the hall to see her going away. On the road i took reeds weapon, promising myself to use it every time now. When so mi went away in space i got a little pain in the heart but at the same time i found it absolutely beautiful. We killed many people, did a lot of bad things, maybe we were gonna indirectly start a war. But we saved a live who had all her rights to live, we said someone, and finally, that is maybe the final reason of why i helped so mi to the end, even to she betrayed me everytime. She wouldn't have to ne scared anymore and i hope she get a better life. The day after, on the port, i told myslef that now i have a lot of options, and that im going to join the aldecaldos, the best ending for me, and live freely, and if before i was scared that this ending would lead to death, now im confident that V can be saved, and that ecen if he dies, living the best life he could dream of with his girl during 6 months... Is worth it
@SoulSlayer_96
@SoulSlayer_96 Жыл бұрын
Yea the endings here depend hugely on perspective they are not just simply black and white it's more greyish!
@aureliengll3021
@aureliengll3021 Жыл бұрын
@@SoulSlayer_96 exactly, there's no "good" ending to cyberpunk, there's the "best" for everyone viewpoint. And that's why i love so much this game
@Adrianografia
@Adrianografia 11 ай бұрын
How is this a "good" ending??
@ghost321000
@ghost321000 11 ай бұрын
It's better than the alternative.
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