Cycling Fail #7 | Rear Observation

These two cyclists were keeping an eye on what was going on behind more than your average cyclist.
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[@chrisl1797]

If I have said this once I've said it a dozen times... we need to stop sub catagorising road users and simply call them people. You just can help some people be they on a bike, driving "certain makes" of car or simply walking along. They will be ignorant self-entitled arrogant road users what ever their means of transport.

[@chrisatye]

Absolute spot-on.

[@esraeloh8681]

But, the logical hierarchy still applies with what you said...

[@chrisl1797]

@@esraeloh8681 Used in a positive way I have no problem with the labels. It is when they are used in a derogatory way that a problem occurs.

[@jakescustoms]

Some truly shocking displays of cycling on this one! During my rides, I like to do the best I can to not be a hazard. The roads are not a playground.

[@PedroConejo1939]

And tarmac is unrelenting.

[@ibs5080]

I know it's a cliche but at around 1:56 this is one of my pet peeves. Cyclists cycling on the pavement...and expecting pedestrians to get out of their way. As well as surprising pedestrians who wouldn't be reasonably expected to see a cyclist approaching.

[@richardkent]

A few years ago I nearly got hit by two policemen on bicycles who did exactly this.

[@15bit62]

It's also an annoyance for me. I'm good with children using the footpath, cos it's just safer, but adults shouldn't. And they especially shouldn't when there is no space and they have to barge pedestrians out the way to get past. Nowadays if i am a pedestrian i just don't get out the way. If they hit me and fall in front of a car in the road i feel that's their own fault. I'm more than happy to help other road users who make genuine mistakes, but i actually won't tolerate massively arrogant road users like that. And contrary to Ashley's opinion i am pretty sure i'd sleep fine at night if they were hit by a car, firm in the knowledge that i've removed or retrained a road user who could very easily have landed my 90 year old father in hospital and probably not cared about doing so.

[@QiuEnnan]

It's annoying to me too, but I wish the police would take more action against irresponsible driving as that's the reason many cyclists ride on the pavement.

[@cyclecam6328]

I think if you're riding on the pavement to learn or because you can't yet safely use the roads you should be at a pedestrian speed and not hopping on and off

[@tconnolly9820]

​@@QiuEnnanI also wish the police would take more action against irresponsible cyclists because I am sick to the teeth as both a responsible cyclist and a driver trying to justify some behaviour of cyclists to other drivers whose opinions are hardened by seeing nothing but fools and suicide monkeys like these who give all the rest of us a bad reputation. Personally I think I think it would be better for the rest of us if a good proportion of them actually managed to fulfill their nominations for the Darwin Awards.

[@TheRip72]

At 3:30 there was an extra complication not mentioned/noticed; a cattle grid. These are horrible at low speed both for the rider & bike, so these are better taken faster. It is not an excuse for cyclists to be reckless but, as drivers, be aware that cyclists will be trying to attack these as fast (& perpendicular) as possible. The one in the video was right after a bend too, so very little chance to accelerate for it.

[@ShortCycle.]

Local knowledge here - it's the junction of the b3055 and Mill Lane in Brockenhurst, and part of the national cycle network and recommend routes . That cattle grid can make a car twitch sideways you turn and cross and will set off stability control in wet weather, even at low speeds. I think that was a genuine mistake by the rider - either felt the bike twitch going over it or tried to ride one of the lengthways bars for a smoother crossing. Either way solved by slowing more and coming off the saddle to absorb the grid vibrations.

[@hebijirik]

I have ridden over a 1000km cycling backwards on the stoker seat of a recumbent back-to-back tandem. Acting also as an active rear view mirror for my forward seeing captain so he would not have to stare into his actual mirror so much. This is the first time I am seeing two people on a single bike both facing backwards though. Fairly impressive regarding the ability to balance that but so unbeliavebly idiotic to do that with other people (and cars) around. What organ does he use to keep his balance when he clearly lacks a brain?

[@oyvey304]

What a racist comment.

[@hebijirik]

@@oyvey304 I don't get it, would you please tell me which part is the racist one?

[@oyvey304]

@@hebijirik Imagine in 2023 (nearly 2024) when a Jew has to explain to a white person about their racism, Just Google it.

[@weevilinabox]

As a recumbent owner, I'm imagining the length of chain required for a back-to-back tandem (unless each rider is powering their own wheel). I imagine it's pretty swift, too. PS Like you, I'm struggling to see anything racist in your post.

[@oyvey304]

@@weevilinabox Imagine being an antisemite by disagreeing with a Jewish woman.

[@David-km8in]

Hi Ashley, I was a cyclist for 25 years and always considered myself a good road user and never behaved like that. The only time I'd go on the pavement was to get myself out of danger and immediately get of my bike and get back on the road when it was safe to do so. It not just bad cyclists nowadays it's the e scooters. I have been knocked down 3 times while walking my dog. These people don't care at all. Happy Christmas. David, Northampton. Ps great videos. I wish all driving instructors were as good as you. I have seen some terrible driving from them to.

[@ChrisBrown-px1oy]

Letting you know what I think Ashley, at 5:22-5:29. The clip itself I found a non-event; the viewer's speed occurred as normal caution on the turn rather than slowed by a surprise fron an undertaking cyclist. The cyclist passing took a reasonably wide arc and didn't get too close to the van or the viewer's car, and it was just as well to pass quickly into the viewer's front vision. That's with the reservation that there's no rear view. Regarding the Highway Code, I'm resistant to blaming new rules for changes in behaviour. Mandating the wearing of seatbelts provides a good illustration of why. After this came in for drivers and front seat passengers, in 1983, their death rates declined. Those of cyclists and pedestrians, however, rose enough to make it clear that the new law made some drivers feel more invulnerable. That they drove worse, didn't mean the new law was flawed, and there has never been any question of repealing it. The governments did not take ownership of either change to promote the necessary shift in attitude and behaviour. The 1983 Act was not a piece of government legislation; I don't know what the excuse will be for 2022, but it was pretty clear SoST Grant Shapps' mind was elsewhere.

[@shm5547]

I think in this case, the greater reason for not wanting to slow down, is not the recent changes in the Highway Code, but because they're riding a fixie!

[@fetchstixRHD]

The junction itself isn't particularly great either - there are two right turns covered by that section of the lights. Many people get caught out by it...

[@ChrisBrown-px1oy]

@@fetchstixRHD Either... what do you think anyone did wrong in that clip?

[@fetchstixRHD]

@@ChrisBrown-px1oy: I withhold comment on "wrongdoing", mostly just pointing out that said location is somewhere to be cautious at in general.

[@joblesswideo-fb7nj]

2:44 love the comment about the car driver doing well with the cyclist but completely ignores the fact he drove over the roundabout and not around it😂

[@cyclecam6328]

Glad to see my two clips from 1:40 featuring, enjoyed a wry smile with that pedestrian who had to sort out the silly chap. I do favour having 'cyclist' as a more specific term; someone who takes an interest in riding a bicycle and is generally skilled in its use and road craft. This matches with how we use 'ist' in other ways to denote a commitment to an idea; feminist, liberalist, socialist, naturist etc. Or to denote skill in use of an object; pianist, accordionist, (dentist?). When i undress to shower im not a naturist, in the same way that we shouldn't assume the values of someone on a bike (some cues may signify "cyclist" rather than "bicycler"). Ive more to say on this but woupd need a tldr

[@AshleyNeal-JustCycling]

I'm a pacifist

[@cyclecam6328]

@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling Super, then placate me and adopt my definitions of bicycler and cyclist. I'm even tempered that spellcheck doesn't recognise my invented word yet.

[@AshleyNeal-JustCycling]

Are you changing your account name? 😉

[@ChrisBrown-px1oy]

I take your point about levels of commitment and technique. But I'm against trying to impose distinctions based on sectarian value judgements, in a road safety forum. Road users out and about would do better to categorise others according to risk and vulnerability in their registering and planning. We often don't get very long. In any case, be careful what you wish for. I recently - can't remember where on YT - had an exchange about "driver" and "motorist", in which we agreed "motorist" was the dirty word, implying tribal identification, right or wrong. Get your way, and I would hazard, with regret, that for a majority of those who take you up, "cyclist" will be the equivalent despised and toxic category.

[@cyclecam6328]

@@ChrisBrown-px1oy I think motorist is a dirty word to those who value environmental issues highly and a positive word for those who value autonomy and privacy highly. If it accurately describes an enthusiast about cars I think it has utility. People will think what they'll think. Best to give them the landscape to do it clearly.

[@jamesdewitt84]

For the issue at 5:00 those are temporary lights it could be quite unclear that they apply to the bike lane depending on their positioning or where the bike lane starts. I would need to see it from the other side to pass judgement. However if you see it from the direction the car is travelling it DOES look like you could continue if you were cycling but then the cycle lane disappears and there is a pedestrians arrow? I suspect that as often is the case no-one has thought about what cyclists are supposed to do when setting up road works.

[@reachandler3655]

The level of stupidity in some road users is horrifying!

[@ibs5080]

At around 3:22 the cam car appears to be driving at an excessive speed, including when they pass a SLOW warning on the road.

[@shm5547]

Agree with you there. Cattle grids are awful to cycle over. I think this cyclist got out of the saddle and tried to put some power down whilst their rear wheel was still on the grid, causing the back end to slip. They were lucky to stay upright. The driver should have approached with much less speed and given the cyclist more room.

[@dmac2573]

Ashley, I'm not sure what you're getting at around 4:30. Who has ever said cyclists don't jump red lights?

[@ibs5080]

Ashley had an intentional sarcastic segment. 😊

[@dmac2573]

@@ibs5080 yeah it’s obviously sarcasm, but the implication is that some people say cyclists don’t jump red lights.

[@poitynine]

U never seen cycling twitter? Anytime a clip of a cyclist doing something wrong they have all the excuses like it wasn’t a proper cyclist or some made up reason why it was safer to do it.

[@dmac2573]

@@poitynine yeah I observe cycling twitter a lot. Nobody says that cyclists don't jump red lights, at worst people say it's not as bad as drivers jumping red lights (which is true).

[@glenn1534]

He's attempting sarcasm, but it's coming across as childish - perpetuating the idea that it's always 'drivers vs cyclists' and sadly re-enforcing bad drivers' (wrong) perception that every cyclist cycles the same way, whereas only bad drivers drive badly.

[@phillwainewright4221]

'Correct use of the horn' would have helped in that last clip.

[@woutervanr]

I would love to see some videos of you talking about our dutch cycling infrastructure! But yeah, don't expect it all to be 10/10 awesome everywhere, and definitely visit some smaller places as well. The cycling network connecting cities and villages is what's one of the most impressive aspects in my opinion. Though the roundabouts and traffic lights are good as well ofcourse. And just like when you have a lot of people driving, when you have a lot of people cycling there will inevitably be some numpties.

[@woutervanr]

Even for driving a video would be nice I think actually. Our roads are really good in general.

[@KevinKaneCanada]

Love your vids. Just a friendly note that I always ride with headphones. I can easily hear all traffic but it reduces the noise of some of the louder vehicles so they're less startling. Anyone driving a car with the windows up and the radio on can hear far less than a cyclist with headphones.

[@stephenclark9917]

Crazy! Why would you deprive yourself of one of your senses?

[@JosephWilson-jf2hf]

I used to ride with headphones on and while I could still hear what was around me, I still struggled to easily tell where from. Might be worth ditching the headphones to improve your passive perception

[@glenn1534]

I always cycle without headphones, but I completely agree that any driver who doesn't drive with their windows down and music off for every journey can climb off their high horse.

[@KevinKaneCanada]

@@stephenclark9917 Have you tried it my friend? Personally I can hear everything. My volume isn't too loud. It's more relaxing to me compared with the louder noise without headphones.

[@KevinKaneCanada]

@@JosephWilson-jf2hf Fair enough. I've tried both and I just find it more relaxing when the decibels are a bit lower with the headphones on.

[@mrcellophane99]

The car @ 3:23 was going far too fast approaching the junction.

[@tony_w839]

Re the highway code update, I don't believe it has made any difference, probably the majority of road users of all classes do not know of the update, how many have not read the HC since passing their test, cycling or motorised, anyone who has ever only been a pedestrian, does, 'never read' seem an exageration.

[@glenn1534]

One of the conditions of a driving licence is to keep up to date with any changes. If any driver isn't aware of the changes almost 2 years after they have come into force, it's not unreasonable to enforce a compulsory re-sit of their exam.

[@letter1014]

It has just created more confusion, the driver knows about the HC and the pedestrian just waits for a gap like before, and vice versa. This increases risk and creates more anger on our roads

[@tony_w839]

@@letter1014 do you really believe that the majority of drivers have kept up with the HC, I'm also a pedestrian and know the HC, to give an example, today I approached a junction on foot, a car was indicating right coming towards the junction, the car slowed, I stepped back giving priority, the car came round the corner, the driver waved, I smiled and waved back, no anger, just smooth flow. Why do you expect anger, why not make it a non-event?

[@tony_w839]

@@glenn1534 how could the condition be enforced? I'd imagine most drivers treat the condition like they treat the tick box terms and conditions on web sites.

[@glenn1534]

@@tony_w839 the same way other dangerous driving offences are.

[@grahamnutt8958]

I'm not sure what shocks me the most on this compilation....... 1)The lack of self preservation; 2) Ashley's level of sarcasm being on a par ⛳ with that 🎶 legend Ian Dury 😂. Whatever 😊. Merry Christmas everyone.

[@smilerbob]

Just don't put the rhythm stick between the spokes

[@grahamnutt8958]

​@@smilerbobBa-Dum Tss 🥁

[@edj4833]

As a cyclist i agree that most of this cycling is poor. The situation at 6:54 is a bit worrying. Looks like a couple of teenagers cycljng on the pavement fairly slowly, which technically they shouldn't be doing, but in this country drivers are often fairly awful, which intimidates many cyclists onto the pavement. It seems that the pavement is wide enough though, and if the teenagers are cycling slowly, say the speed of a mobility scooter the same width, then there shouldn't really be much problem. But the pedestrian, much larger than them, seems to then barge and force them into the road. I know technically they shouldn't be cycling there, but the pedestrian could have been the one to cause a fatality by then forcing them into traffic.

[@duclicsic]

The fact that shared use paths exist is implicit acceptance that pedestrians and cyclists can exist safely in the same space, as such I would be reluctant to call out cyclists using the pavement if they're taking appropriate amounts of care when doing so. That said, these two lads were on a fairly narrow bit of pavement so should have probably stopped by that driveway and let the pedestrian pass at the very least. The pedestrian however clearly shoves the lead rider towards the road, which one could very easily interpret as a direct attempt to cause harm.

[@edj4833]

@@duclicsic It definitely seems like a shove or a barge through. If the man wanted to stop and talk to the teenagers about path etiquette, that would have been appropriate. But he seems to be the dangerous one, not the riders.

[@ibs5080]

At around 2:40 re "The driver of the white car in front did well to recognize the dangers of that situation". A pity that they then went on to drive right over the centre of the mini roundabout.

[@cyclecam6328]

Yes, my clip, i thought that too. A really bad habit people have that happily didn't affect anyone here

[@QiuEnnan]

@@cyclecam6328But you rode over the mini-roundabout too, didn’t you?

[@cyclecam6328]

@@QiuEnnan no, they're often a bit slippy as well as causing confusion if you don't go round properly. Rarely it is best to just clear the junction The camera over my head leans into the centre

[@QiuEnnan]

@@cyclecam6328 Oh OK

[@brisfocus3648]

riding backwards - with a passenger - takes a lot of skill!

[@RenAigu]

Thanks for including my clip from the Netherlands. Not long after this, I saw the guy on the handlebar riding backwards solo a few times in the same area, so it wasn't even something they just tried once for the lolz, but something they actually seemed to do regularly. But fortunately not more recently, so I hope they learned something. There must be better ways to spice up your rides?

[@weeardguy]

I would almost say 'It's Zaandam...' . A great deal of idiots live there these days.

[@chris1275cc]

Not sure about the last one. The clip starts with the driver already in the right hand lane a good 15 seconds behind the cyclists who are on a left bend, any check behind would be done over the left shoulder or under the left arm in that situation. I'm not saying a check was made I can't tell but if it was they would have likely seen nothing but empty road. Plus the HC says the cyclists should move back into single file IF they feel it is safe to do so, maybe they didn't feel it was you dont know and nor did the driver who basically committed to an overtake way back before the clip even started.

[@AshleyNeal-JustCycling]

What reason would they have thought single file would have been unsafe? Edit - typo

[@chris1275cc]

​@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling I dont know I'm not psychic. Maybe the driver is? One reason the HC gives is if you are accompanying an inexperienced cyclist. They are TT bikes TT riders dont usually ride like that, we take it in turns to slip stream behind one another (especially on nice road like that) and we almost never take our TT bikes out for a "social ride" the bikes just aren't suitable for that type of riding, they are incredibly uncomfortable for long slow rides and massively over geared. It's is quite likely one is training the other because even to an experienced roadie a TT bike will feel very "sketchy" and twitchy as all hell so a close pass of an inexperienced TT rider can cause them to over correct and crash very easily which is why when we coach new riders we "shield" them. I can forgive the driver for not knowing, because they couldn't possibly know, but that's my point they dont know. So correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the HC states it's for the cyclist to decide if they feel its safe not the motorist.

[@r390gt1lm]

you can get plenty of footage for a video like this every day in London

[@philipjames3526]

The one with the cyclist, overtaking the other cyclist. Everything is wrong. And the worst bit, if he had been hit at the roundabout. Cars fault...when in reality.

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

Did any one else notice the road sign pointing to Littlehampton in the first clip? It was pointed right at the cyclist. I'll let you look up what Hampton means in Cockney Rhyming Slang....

[@shm5547]

3:45 pedals in completely the wrong position for the turn, should have the right pedal at the lowest point and the left pedal at the highest point when turning left. They were also riding in the gutter and hugged the kerb on the turn. Had they been riding further out into the lane and taken a wider line around the corner, there would have been no conflict with the pedestrians. Not the most competent road user, looks like perhaps a teenager on their way to school. Yes, they could have done better, but there was no harm.

[@jonrellim]

That clip from the Netherlands doesn't surprise me at all. Especially the sidewalk riding unfortunately this happens quite a lot, cyclists are used to a priority position that when they do get held up, they tent to feel like it's okay to take shortcuts over the sidewalk. In some areas, you have to watch out exiting a shop or building as cyclists may be shooting across the sidewalk in front of you.

[@ChrisBrown-px1oy]

I've watched the clip from 6:53 any number of times Ashley, and I'm not convinced the commentary perfectly matches it. I don't see a compelling reason for those cyclists not to have been on the roadway, and whatever their reason, they should have stopped at the previous opening to let the pedestrian pass. But however questionable those choices, they were at least going at a respectful speed - so not quite doing everything wrong. Moreover, although whatever went on is hidden behind the cyclists, it does indeed look as if the pedestrian shoved the one in front and he slipped off the kerb. We see the pedestrian's arm outstretched, and the cyclists' body language certainly suggests a greater shock than if they'd had a mere telling-off. Add a motor vehicle driven faster and with less attention than your viewer's, and the chances of a more serious level of victimhood like Celia Ward's would have been high. You know I appreciate what you do, so I'll leave it at that with my best wishes.

[@CheapBastard1988]

How could you not appreciate the "Dutch crossing."😂

[@snowleopard9749]

6:28 I think Ashley has this wrong, he did look. You look before you emerge, not during - if you look while you're turning, you're already in trouble.

[@ibs5080]

At 3:51 with the left turning cyclist not giving priority to the pedestrians. Seen that happen many times. Had it done to me too, by cyclists not even giving a hand signal for their turn.

[@smilerbob]

The cyclist also didn't apply one simple motto in keeping themselves and others safe...have they seen me? I didn't see the pedestrian look once before crossing, but could be wrong and maybe I need to up my observations It is down to all to look after each other, pedestrians included

[@bazzacuda_]

The proportion of cyclists that know the new rule is going to be similar to the proportion of motorists. Very low.

[@luvstellauk]

@@bazzacuda_ To be fair most pedestrians don't know either

[@ibs5080]

@@smilerbob I have to admit, as a stationary biker, I've never as yet seen a pedestrian, full stop! 😀

[@wibbley1]

Cyclists do not have to give way to peds. Coming off a bike is going to hurt the cyclist far more, so they are the most vulnerable. Fact. The peds should have been looking out for the bike and be ready to give way to them at a split seconds notice.

[@KXXULADavidOC]

That clip from the Netherlands was just shocking, what a ridiculous and dangerous way to cycle 😨

[@argiebarge7955]

It is embarssing how the 'cycling' community try to shrug their responsibility. Anyone who questions this is usually dismissed as 'not a cyclist'. 4-5k per year cyclist checking in.

[@SittaCarolinensis]

Since the revised Highway Code came out cycling standards have got much worse, and the attitude that "it's the car driver's responsibility/fault" has become more prevalent.

[@maskofsan1ty]

Ashleys cycling videos after becoming more and more like a daily mail comments section...

[@Stettafire]

Or maybe you are? 🧐

[@jamesdewitt84]

Although it would be sensible in the last clip to move over or go single file since this is clearly a very large vehicle and it is in both groups interest to leave lots of space on what basis are you saying that they "should" move to single file?

[@urglegurgle5807]

That road works one was really bad, as the cycle lane had been segregated, and only seemed to have traffic control for the road rather than cycle path, which later effectively combined back with the road.

[@mrcellophane99]

The white car @2:44 might have recognised danger from the cyclist, but failed to recognise the roundabout as did the silver car at the previous one. You are supposed to go round roundabouts, even mini ones.

[@DemiGod..]

You don't need a dashcam to show you left enough room.The cyclist will have submited their camera footage to get the police to prosecute. That is ofcourse unless the police don't ask for the unedited footage and rely on edited distorted footage by somebody like jeremy vine.

[@StefanVeenstra]

You'd think, especially from those riding for sport, they'd be aware of their vulnerability and that of their expensive equipment. But then some cyclists take advantage of that vulnerability because “it's always the motorists fault” regardless of who caused the hazard or worse (Because motorists are supposed to be learned before licensed), just to bully their way through.

[@TheRip72]

I am glad you said 'some'. I was passed by another cyclist on a country road a while back. He was wearing brown. I don't like the colour very much anyway but he was camouflaged by the background of hedges very quickly. It was still possible to find him if you looked, but if a car approached, wouldn't it be helpful if your colour contrasts to the background so you stand out? This may give them up to 10 seconds to take action instead of maybe 4? I usually wear fluoro yellow

[@johnfh]

I remember many years ago the theme "drive to survive". If these cyclists - who can't ride to protect themselves - could follow "ride to survive" there wouldn't be a problem.

[@TiberiusWallace]

1:59 - I think they weren't triggered by being passed, I think he's not that good a cyclist but what went on is the cammer ruined the downhill run for him so he got miffed because he was braking.

[@v52gc]

04:40, you jumped a 2 red lights in your Tiger Crossing video 😉 👍 (learning opportunity and/or debate opportunity) (HC 82).

[@AshleyNeal-JustCycling]

True! I actually didn't know until people pointed it out in the comments. It is a good learning opportunity.

[@stuartjames1971]

As a bus driver, I see so many poor examples of cycling on a daily basis. Cyclists don’t necessarily know the Highway Code and this can be a huge issue. Passing a cyclist in a 40 foot bus is difficult and throw in oncoming traffic and parked cars adds to the situation. Cyclists jumping from the pavement onto the road is my biggest problem. They don’t look and , as you said in the video Ashley, expect the other road users to look out for them and basically save their life…… it comes down to impatience. 🤨😑

[@sedumjp]

If passing a cyclist in a bus is a problem because of oncoming traffic and parked cars then the answer is very simple. Don't do it; hold back until it is safe. If you pass me badly in a bus you are getting points or a course (I submit all close passes by bus to the police and they action all of them). You can't get on your high horse about the impatience of other road users until you have dealt with your own.

[@stuartjames1971]

Thanks for telling me how to drive…….. I regularly have to wait before overtaking cyclists. Cyclists don’t necessarily wait at traffic lights or when pulling out of side roads but it’s my responsibility as a bus driver to avoid colliding with them……

[@wrightwoodwork]

I know from myself getting hit the driver was so badly shaken. I certainly wouldn't wish it on any driver

[@Soupdragonism]

@5.36 "I'm not going to even look or bother about the cars"? Its a give way line. The cyclist slowed to near stationary and gave way. The cyclist obviously knew the car was there and slowed accordingly to give way. Whats the problem? Good example of sanctimonious motorist nitpicking cyclists.

[@neilbradley5011]

No point in bringing out new highwaycode rules. Many "cyclists" don't read unless it's their social media stuff.

[@ToeJam161]

When walking round Birmingham city centre you have to be so carful now with these clowns on E-bikes! They go in all directions, particularly on the tram area. If a sign says look left, then deffo look right also! Great vid Mr Neal.

[@mrcellophane99]

But no mention of the car @ 1:40 that went through the amber light which, as you know, means STOP

[@andrewgilbertson5356]

Thank you

[@shm5547]

7:15 the only thing that cyclist did wrong was to use the cycle lane that is way too narrow. There's no problem having an e-bike with a throttle, can be perfectly legal. It's also not illegal to ride with headphones. The cyclist looks to check the car is holding back, then moves across. The worst bit is the cammer passing on the inside, that narrow right turn lane is awful.

[@davetkd666]

Not illeagal does not mean not moronic to do so. Bad road users, bad Cyclists in particular, seem to have an issue with grasping this concept.

[@shm5547]

@@davetkd666 well quite, there’s no way I would be riding in that cycle lane. Had they been riding central in the lane, they potential conflict with an overtaking vehicle could have been managed much better. But let’s not forget, as the operator of the more dangerous machine, it’s ultimately the car driver’s responsibility to pass with care. Certainly shouldn’t have been looking to overtake through a section of traffic calming and approaching a junction.

[@Dani-El.]

Not Dutch though are they.

[@MH-hy2ot]

7:00 wtf do you mean? The guy literally shoved him onto moving traffic yet he's in the right? They're literally kids too. Too afraid to cycle on the roads with all the aggressive, selfish and careless drivers in big killing machines

[@thorin4406]

It's illegal to cycle on footpaths in the UK. I didn't see a shove, I saw two selfish individuals cycling down a narrow pavement and getting caught off balance because there clearly wasn't room. If they are too afraid to cycle on the road, there's a simple solution that you conveniently failed to mention - they should have dismounted and walked.

[@MH-hy2ot]

@@thorin4406 Definitely looks like a shove to me. The way the people reacted to each other also suggested it was. And even if it wasn't. They're just 2 kids cycling slowly on a quiet footpath. The lad can spare no expense giving them some extra room for 2 seconds. Some rules are meant to be bent

[@PkPvre]

0:53 funny to see something from my city. Guess they're practicing for the circus :D

[@wisher21uk]

All members of the Jeremy Vine club 😊

[@Mr.1.i]

A hill is where you sort out the imberceils

[@Soupdragonism]

@6.30. I expect the cyclist did look at both junctions but its not clear on the video.

[@devlinrawlings3322]

icl at 3:13 I was just looking at the ford

[@chrisatye]

Don’t show this video to Jeremy Vine. He’ll be saying it’s all the other road user’s fault, so he can perpetuate a pointless argument between cars and cyclists that doesn’t need to exist…

[@threeshirescyclist554]

I report a lot of motorists when on my rides for poor driving when deserved, which is a little too often for my linking, but I do try hard to set a good example, always tucking in to let cars past, waving cars through when I can see over a rise/around a blind corner before them, trying to build a little credibility back that the riders in this video erode diabolically.

[@StefanVeenstra]

Despite being a nation with more bicycles than people, expect a lot more idiotic behavior if you visit the Netherlands. Especially in the cities. Though as with motorists, for every odd bad one you will pass dozens of good participants without noticing, because by far most people behave. (Because they want to arrive at their destination, not in a dispute.) Common bad behaviors of cyclists here are phone distraction, without lights, running zebra's without dismounting or yielding, on pavements without any regard for pedestrians... Worst offenders are careless students and arrogant elders. Still, with as much cycle infrastructure we have, I can cycle for 250 miles and only have to share the roadspace with motorists for less than a tenth of that distance, road widths of every crossing included. It's a breeze. (If the weather is nice. Otherwise we'll suck it up and cycle through the storm anyway)

[@dubreg6711]

lot's of idiots on bicycles and they can get away with breaking most rules, the only ones i'm bothered by are those that report every incident on their go pro.

[@ibs5080]

Your parting comments re save your dash cam clip if you think you're going to get a summons. Good advice and hopefully not something you should find yourself having to do too often. I had one such occasion a few months ago driving on the M4 eastbound into London. I saw / felt a camera flash behind me and yet I wasn't exceeding the limit. Saved the clip which would have also showed my gps speed. Even checked the footage at home afterwards and it confirmed I wasn't speeding. But I still worried about it for the next two weeks or so. I kept anxiously checking mail daily as soon as it came through the letterbox. Anyhow, it's been about two months now and nothing. There was another car some distance ahead of me that may have been speeding and set the camera off but it was quite a distance away from the rear facing camera. Really don't know for sure what that camera flash was all about.

[@15bit62]

I'm still waiting for a ticket from a french speed camera that flashed me 18 months ago 🙂

[@ibs5080]

@@15bit62 Interesting. Have you been back to France since? I'm just wondering if French border control keep a record of this kind of thing in their system. Either way, hopefully nothing came of the flash that you saw. Just watch your speed.

[@15bit62]

@@ibs5080 Yeah, i was back this summer. No problems. I don't think they really cared cos i was only doing 94 in a 90 zone, and it probably wasn't worth the effort to try to track down a norwegian registered car for the lowest level of fine they can issue. I probably deserve the ticket though, as i was deliberately gaming the speed limit by 5% - i do that routinely on long journeys cos it does actually save you an appreciable amount of time (30+ mins) when you are driving 1000km in a day (Hamburg to Banbury that day). For short journeys i stick to the limits because 30 secs saved is worth nothing to me...

[@RicardoPetrazzi]

Hey Ashley, I have some footage to send you from my cycling today, but first, I would say, many of following your channel for years now all could see the issues with the HWC rule changes from 2 years ago, and yes, it seems worse than ever these days. Lastly, the final clip, I would sounded my horn at a reasonable distance to make sure those pair riding side-by-side knew I was approaching from behind and to hopefully prompt them to return to single file.

[@tobinstage6715]

This irritates me alot. I cycle as if I were required to as any other road user. unfortunatly I realy don't understand the virual exemption none car users seem to think they are privileged too hold. unfortunatly our enforcement is limited to badly placed revenu generating vans. whilst we continue to penalise minor speed offnces and brush all the othre spectrum of issues into the bin things are only set to get worse,,,

[@user-ge6dy1ru6x]

In Trafford Park we have some qell behaved 4 wheel Amazon delivery cyclists, but the food cyclists on 2 wheels with sat nav are like chicken. I had several undertaking , overtaking , just to stop in frint and cross my bonnet as they missed their arrival location. Nobody uses brain anymore- all on screens!

[@stevekenilworth]

careless or dangerous so from up to £1000 and up to £2500 fine for dangerous, £30 fine for jumping a red light but that may fall under the other two mentioned. Using a hand held mobile phone whilst cycling is not illegal per se. However, you could commit an offence of careless cycling. It is also not advisable for the obvious safety reasons. an accident it the normal for the driver so give over details but Additionally, as a cyclist, if it is alleged that you have been cycling without reasonable consideration for other road users, carelessly or dangerously, you must give your name or address to any person who has reasonable grounds for requiring them. If you don't do this or give a false name or address, you commit an offence. Cycling on a road or ‘other public place’ (including a bridleway) whilst unfit through drink and drugs carries a fine of up to £1,000. You won’t get penalty points on your driving licence, but the courts have a general power to disqualify you from driving. all this was government sites. if police cared about safety they start to enforce the rules/ laws too

[@smilerbob]

That clip at around 7:00 is a good example about sharing. Some will say the cyclists shouldn't be on the pavement, some will say the pedestrian should've stopped, others will say the cyclists should've stopped. I say work it out between you as the last thing anyone wants is a cyclist or pedestrian being knocked into the road as a vehicle is coming passed. Everyone knows about a recent example which I am not going to go into details here. As you say elsewhere in the video Ashley, having a collision will ruin your life and I am sure for most, just being involved or witnessing will also have similar effects Even for all the faults of everyone (pedestrians, cyclists and motorists alike) where I am, one thing that I find does happen well is the sharing of the pavements between cyclists and pedestrians. We have a poor showing for what is supposedly called cycling infrastructure and some roads are just safer for cyclists to ignore the painted lines and use the pavement. I would say 98% of the time these areas, although not officially shared, are shared well and with mutual respect for each other. This is my observations of what I see while travelling around

[@shm5547]

Yep. To me it looked like the pedestrian had room to move over but purposefully shoulder barged the cyclist (who doesn't look that old, maybe mid-teens). Pretty shocking really.

[@Dreadthfull]

​@@shm5547no. Parents should teach their kids that pavement = pedestrians. It's baffling how entitled you both are, thinking "oh well I think we are allowed to use the pavement as we please so f**** pedestrians and what they think, even though it's their space". Thanks for proving that cyclists are indeed an entitled bunch.

[@ryanmitcham5522]

It's irrelevant what 'some will say', because legally the cyclists shouldn't be on the pavement. That's not to say I've always got an issue with it in certain circumstances and done appropriately and safely, but if you're using the pavement a cyclist, it has to with the utmost care and the understanding as you shouldn't really be there, you rank lowest, and therefore be prepared to stop, move or do whatever you need to do for the intended users correctly using the pavement.

[@smilerbob]

Completely understand what you are saying there @ryanmitcham5522 and here it depends on where the nearest "passing" point will be on the pavement as to who stops to allow the other to pass. Trust me when I say some pavements in parts here are wide enough for one pushchair only and maybe a small child next to the pushchair. Everything is done with mutual respect for each other and definitely no entitlement involved. There are those that just don't care but I think that is just their attitude and would be the same if they were walking or driving

[@shm5547]

@@Dreadthfull well, you're clearly a not a parent of a child cyclist. Would you advise your own children to ride in the road? Are you that confident they won’t encounter a careless/dangerous driver?

[@QuentinStephens]

That last clip begged for the use of the horn.

[@Eddie-ev9bv]

From my own personal experience, an air horn is now a vital component on any vehicle. Give them full volume from close range and see how fast they move out of the way!

[@kenbrown2808]

if you don't run down a pedestrian, every week, can you even call yourself a cyclist?

[@frogandspanner]

1:38 Zaandam - the rainbow crossing.

[@1obsessionafteranother794]

Speaking of headphones… saw a driver wearing similar headphones get in their sports car, start the engine and reverse out of the supermarket parking space. Perhaps the sound of his own car was too loud for him 🤷‍♀️

[@TheRip72]

Even wearing headphones with them switched off affects my spatial awareness & I cannot understand how it would be possible for anyone to be different. I even prefer to leave them in my bag when I am walking, if I take them out with me at all.

[@Stettafire]

​@@TheRip72You both seem to love to ignore the fact that deaf drivers exist. If you're relying on your ears to drive effectively you're a poor driver

[@the_dwin]

3:44 This one seems kinda tough, the rule states if it's safe to do so. With how oblivious car drivers are with the new giving way rules at junctions, would it not be safer to remove yourself from the firing line?

[@letter1014]

Pedestrians should wait for vehicles to pass, or wait to be given priority imo.

[@davetkd666]

Many pedestrians arent aware either. As a pedestrian I act as if the rule doesn't exist; as a driver if they stop first I assume priority and proceed with caution. I've tried implementing it properly and it's never worked. There's been a notable increase in pedestrian deaths in Central Scotland and I wonder how much is due to this change.

[@andyp315]

Just for arguments sake, The last clip (7:50) was that 1.5m? close... But say you did get a summons you think arguing that because you done it at much reduced speed and with care would or should get you off? Could cyclists going through red lights argue the same too? When it comes to thinking to yourself that you need to save the clip for your possible defence, you are obviously unsure about the manoeuvre yourself. Should you really be proceeding with it?

[@richardkent]

No comment regarding the utter wazzock at 5:33 with no lights or reflectors and all in black? Or did you completely miss them?

[@andyo1737]

Thats correct. He didn't see them.

[@jonburgess3614]

Wonder what the Dutch cyclist had been smoking 😂😂😂

[@em0_tion]

3:48 And Mother of the Year award goes to... 🤦‍♂

[@wibbley1]

Don't see the problem? Surely motor vehicles should always give way to bikes and allow them to weave around motor vehicles? It can be more dangerous for a bike to stop at traffic lights, so passing them at red means they do not get caught with all the cars having to pass them? As cyclists are the most vulnerable people on the road (peds & especially those with disabilities, partially sighted for example, don't matter) so it is up to all other road users, including peds, to ensure the cyclists are kept safe, not the other way around. Cyclists cannot stop anyway, after racing through the streets, to do so would allow dangerous toxins to build up in the muscles. Think motorists should do more to allow the cycles a faster and shorter journey.

[@QuentinStephens]

ROFL!

[@mintywebb]

Other vehicles jump red lights at the same rate as cyclists.

[@johnbooth5199]

In my 15 year experience as a bus passenger. I can say that, in Loughborough, at least, way way more cyclists jump the lights, than cars. The bus stop I waited at, was near a set of lights, I'd see maybe one or two cars jump the lights, if I ever saw one on a given day, but 5 or 10 cyclists would jump them, about every day. When I was on the bus, the cyclists were mad, they'd try and squeeze through gaps in traffic, or beat the bus to junctions. Several times the driver had to take action, to avoid squashing a cyclist who misjudged the busses acceleration.

[@richardgiles2484]

The problem is cyclists are untraceable unless they get taken out. This is why I have NO sympathy for most of them. I've had more near misses with cyclists when walking than cars

[@WerdnaLiten]

Yeah, chasing Strava segments can encourage rather reckless riding.....There's a time and a place for riding like a racing cyclist - in a closed road environment.

[@maxdudomite]

How do you keep cyclists accountable?

[@difflocktwo]

How is a cyclist on a phone a danger to anyone? What is the worst this cyclist can do? Get real. A man or two on a bike can do no harm to other road users. What do the stats say? How much damage have bikes done?

[@grantswheelstohills]

Luckily, there are a lot of good drivers and cyclists . Keeping an eye out. But that's not the point. I was on a main road, approaching a cross roads. Then a motorbike (at more than walking speed) rode around the blind corner on the path !!!! From the right hand side road. Then rejoined the carriage way via the zebra crossing ! What I call a quite expensive adventure bike....I was gobsmacked !

[@difflocktwo]

red lights, signaling, is for cars. proper cyclists ignore all signaling. Beg buttons and so forth are all for the benefit of motorists. people outside of cars should pay zero respect to motorists.

[@rwlpfrench]

There is a small minority of road users who make using the road less safe. Some just add to them and us arrogant language. Unsubscribe is called for 🤷

[@JasonUmbrellabird]

5:19 that right turn in Battersea is always two lanes as it turns into two lanes. I don't like it either.

[@davidrumming4734]

One word description Darwinism

[@Deedumdee]

I figure if you can cycle two on a bike, backwards, you've earned the right to do it anywhere you want.

[@andyo1737]

Including under the wheels of a bus.

[@powernab8457]

Yes, the White vehicle of LR62FZF recognized the dangers so much so that they themselves failed miserably to make a proper attempt to drive around the central markings of the roundabout at 8.21 👏

[@AshleyNeal-JustCycling]

Indeed they did. Interestingly you don't mention the first cyclist who did exactly the same. Why is that?

[@powernab8457]

@@AshleyNeal-JustCycling Because I knew you would say it for me!! Thank you!

[@AshleyNeal-JustCycling]

Absolutely. I’ll always add perspective to unbalanced mindsets 👍

[@ibs5080]

"Cycling Home For Christmas. I look at the Jeremy Vine-r next to me. He's just the same". 😊

[@DAVE3422460]

it’s amazing how brainless some people are

[@RonSeymour1]

The Highway Code has enabled cyclists to think that they can do no wrong or if they do, it is the motorist who will be blamed. Why is it necessary for motorists to keep 1.5 meters away but they are happy to over or undertake a less than a foot?

[@Stettafire]

This is nonscence

[@RonSeymour1]

@@Stettafire ?

[@josephmarsh8235]

My goodness, that second clip from the Netherlands 1:07 with those 2 cyclists! I've never known, or seen, anyone ride in a way like that. I hope they learn to protect themselves. I'd love to see a video of you visiting the Netherlands for their cycling infrastructure Ashley. Also, the 2 clips you had with them cyclists not giving way to those pedestrians on the pavement 1:50 and 7:02 Ashley, I wonder how the judge would treat them if they were taken to court. A judge didn't treat that poor disabled lady who killed a cyclist in Cambridgeshire well did they?

[@andyo1737]

Nothing poor about her. It was a wide shared path and she forced an elderly lady into the road who then fell over.

[@chrisnumnuts8671]

Rule 213: On narrow sections of road, on quiet roads or streets, at road junctions and in slower-moving traffic, cyclists may sometimes ride in the centre of the lane, rather than towards the side of the road. It can be safer for groups of cyclists to ride two abreast in these situations

[@andyalder7910]

5:00 without seeing the placement of the oncoming traffic light we have no way to know whether it applies to the cyclist.

[@antonypalmer5804]

I agree with you that the new rules have made the roads more dangerous and confusing. Why do the police not pull bikes for riding at night with no lights?

[@Chigleybus]

3:49 and pedestrians who've recently arrived from overseas need to learn to look behind them before stepping out into the road, especially when they're pushing a baby in a pram.

[@robp1316]

Is it legal for a cyclist to overtake another within the zig zag area of a pedestrian crossing?

[@mcdon2401]

Rules 165 and 167 cover overtaking and cover all road users. 165 says you must not overtake the last vehicle at a crossing. 167 says you should not overtake on the approach to a crossing. So the first is backed up by law, the second one is not, but it would be taken into account by anyone involved in any sort of legal proceedings.

[@AshleyNeal-JustCycling]

Yes you can. It only applies to motor vehicles.

[@AshleyNeal-JustCycling]

They aren't classed as motor vehicles if they fall in the parameters of e-bike classification

[@shm5547]

@sucofnisucofni8935 Cyclists should give pedestrians 2 metres passing distance when overtaking on a road, same as for motorised vehicles. On shared use cycle tracks, the advice is to give them 'plenty of room' and to 'slow down and be prepared to stop'. So it's slightly contradictory. What you have to remember though, is these passing distances are not a legal requirement, they are advice. If you contravene that advice, then the offences are different for motorised traffic (careless/dangerous driving) and bicycles (wanton/furious cycling). So, it might be fine for a cyclist to slow right down to walking pace and pass a pedestrian very closely, as they pose very little risk of knocking the pedestrian over and crushing them, yet a tractor driver doing the same would be placing the pedestrian in grave danger.