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[@SlowtwitchDe]

Jo Harley, Your 1000% right! Nothing to add i was told to SPIN by my coach as the very first thing back when I started racing 27 years ago! Just one small addition on heart rate: Provided one knows their heart rate AND power, heart rate can be an indicator for "What's wrong ?" Scenario: I'm in my "normal powerzone" (3,5 - 4.5 w/kg on a 70.3 (90k)TT) and I do not "feel right" or have problems: - heart rate too high : dehydrated (blood is is getting too thick ) : solution: DRINK MORE! - heart rate too low : under carbed (body is switching to "survival" mode ) : solution: EAT MORE #ctfu ! That's just a small addition from my experience. BTW: I do not use heart rate in competition - I "feel it" :) Keep up the very good stuff !! Stephan

[@emcardledrogba]

Good tips

[@DopeTorre]

Great tips, thanks.

[@igotadigger87]

chris bobbing his head isnt just because he is ocd about the cadence, its his technique that stops him getting a sore neck from holding it in the same position , also saves him a few watts overall on a ride as he is more aero with his head down

[@plodderexup]

Credit where credit's due; since I started following you in May and switched from a year on the high fat, low carb meat based diet (trying in vain to make it work al Volek & Phinney), my cycling has improved way more than ever before in my life (I'm 41 and cycling recreationally and for general transport since 13). I got a power meter in September and today I went up one of the local 10 minute climbs (Brickworks) and managed to hold 299W, which took over a minute off my previous best time from before I did LCHF and was riding 150+ miles per week (I was commuting 30 miles every day to work but work closer to home now, so haven't got the time for that sort of mileage at the moment). I'm starting to beat my mates :-) www.strava.com/activities/444101138

[@zenrider16701]

I hope somebody went back and kicked the shit out of that guy that was shaking the red powder all over.

[@xnajx]

I became vegan and bought a stages because of your videos. Thank you! :)

[@thepatternforms859]

Carnivore diets turns out is best.

[@HydrocorePC]

I am trying to get stronger now im currently doing about 4.5watss per kilo according to my power2max powermeter

[@DeveryAndrews]

The 3 sec avg setting tip was very helpful for me, thxs Harley.

[@tcrrider142]

Just ordered a Stages power meter for my Giant TCR…..cant wait!!!!!!!!!

[@stevegandalf4739]

Crazy advice: recovery and not going so hard 1-3 Watts per kilo - training hard racing - 4-7 Watts per kilo. If say e.g. your 75kgs then taking it easy = 75 to 225 Watts, riding with the hammer down 300 to 525 Watts --- those are two hell of wide ranges ... I guess the answer is to read the book you recommend.

[@twocupsoftee]

Really enjoyed this. Great music for the race!

[@robertomercado5478]

Always giving the best advice homie.

[@sj2oz]

A great follow up to this vid would be completing an FTP test hints and tips, using the Garmin to set laps etc. I have a Stages on your recommendation and have purchased "racing and training with power" (I trust your recommendations) As you say the book is pretty easy to read but translating it to noob language needs a Durianrider spin!! I know there are a lot of FTP test 'you tube' vids but they don't cover it in your familiar and direct style :-)

[@LegsDontCryTB]

Just purchased one and now just playing the waiting game. No more blind folded training for me.

[@weedfoxs]

Nice, i was waiting for this video, as im trying to find out information about power meters, since i dont have one on my bike yet.

[@MoD3RnHD]

Only thing I just can't get over with the Stages is that once I want to sell my bike and get a new one (that may have a different crank set), I now need to buy a whole new Stages meter for the new crank.

[@eddiemoore8228]

Fantastic videos and great tips for training

[@jamessherwood8817]

good of you to finally mention pro cyclists and not mention doping at the same time!

[@1PaulG1]

Thanks for the advice Harley

[@imapineapple15]

If it's such a simple pacing tool I wonder what makes it so damned expensive. Is it just hard to make a power meter or does it have a lot of intricate parts?

[@electrocomm]

+imapineapple15 The device itself is very cheap, tens of $ to manufacture, but it's the R&D, profit and market share that sets the price at this very high level. The price will drop over time as more and more manufacturers will compete in this market segment and there will be higher demand for these devices. A good example is the price of SSD storage device that has been dropping at a linear rate since 2010 (google it). This is how the market works, we just need to accept it as it is.

[@diesel4384]

+imapineapple15 Marketing and the fact that there is not a very large demand. Power meters are hardly more advanced than digital luggage scales. Pretty much luggage scales with a small micro chip and Bluetooth connectivity. Early adopters always pay the highest price. The crank arm itself also costs about $80 so it never will cost any less than that. Power meters will only really get super cheap when you start getting Chinese manufacturers making generic power meters for less than $100. Also presumably ANT+ compliance is an issue and until we also get generic garmin copies from china that use some universal signals it will still be reserved for the big branded companies.

[@imapineapple15]

Diesel interesting how much markup they can ask!

[@diesel4384]

imapineapple15 Same with all road bike parts, way way overpriced. Costs about $2 to manufacture a $50 cassette, and about $8 for $150 crank

[@imapineapple15]

Diesel wow so crazy eh? Same with a lot if things that people are willing to pay more for.

[@pooyah666]

Vector s is good too, my lbs hooked me up for the same price as stages but they're similar price either way

[@veganath]

Great info as always thanks mate

[@charlesjacques750]

Great vid! Now do one for us old guys who still like to ride a bit more than anything else please.

[@maffymaf999]

Loving the videos, keep em coming ! On your advice fancy a stages power meter but don't find them listed for campag group set ? Are they not available ??

[@russellclarida7612]

Definitely thinking stages !

[@haukurinn]

Hey Durianrider, what's your opinion on stretches? do you do them before or after a run/race? or just not at all? keep up the good work! :)

[@benpit2762]

Thanks for the video, awesome! The thing I am struggling with is what gears should you be using to maintain a power zone let’s say a flat road vs a low gradient hill?

[@lesterbeltran5602]

Stem staring However, Froome admits that’s not the case. “I’m not looking at anything, I just find my neck gets [sore] if I look up,” he reveals. “For some reason I feel when I look down I’m able to breathe a lot easier. I don’t know, maybe it’s just me, but I feel it’s a much more comfortable position to do really hard efforts. “Obviously when I look down I can see at least a good five metres in front of me,” he adds quickly with a laugh. “I do need to keep looking up to check!” Read more at www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/racing/tour-de-france/chris-froome-interview-tour-de-france-training-152302#FMmV380Tc8O3umhV.99

[@rawvegan9341]

i notice in the footage that the rider looks at the ground a lot. (7:48) Is cycling a "I look a lot at the ground" sport? Like sk8board? or maybe all sports are like that, when u r tired u start looking down.

[@AndriusVegan]

Also you are saying that HR takes 3-4min to go up, which again is doesnt make sense. If you do 4-5 watts/kg, I pretty sure your HR will jump up immediately. There is even a cycle op cheap power meter based purely on a heart rate data. It would be interesting if you could get it and test against stages.

[@coradecam]

Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Im a Cat 4,5 riding with 2,3's getting my ass kicked. We are riding flats mainly. I have the vector 2. Besides stay out of the wind and off the front, as much as possible; what else? Trying to figure out how to incorporate the PM so to not get dropped. Cheers.

[@st33fie]

hey durian wat is your opinion on the stages powermeter its kind of weird being on only one side of the crank and the garmin power meter looks like a set of earrings is it any good ? or is the power hub a better option?

[@StanislavGrabchev]

powermeters for trail riding(xc), though?

[@slamtheman]

U add the weight of your bike too before you do the w/kg? Expand on 10min climb vs 1 hour climb. how do you know what figures to go by, as i can produce more power over 10 mins

[@whyname1980]

Thank you!

[@dawkinbuchanan1006]

nice that sounds like the blade movie theme song.

[@sharpy182]

Great video! Really want to start training with a stages power meter. Is there anything to be looking out for on the garmin data to show that might be over training, is there any visual sign on the garmin to spot it before it really kicks in? like not being able to hold watts or something.

[@PennyPanthers_Fan7]

Hey mate, really keen to try out a power meter but unfortunately they're out of reach for most of us in terms of cost. Any chance of doing a video explaining why they're so fucking expensive?? Keep up the good work mate!

[@CoachKeithBridgeforth]

What stages power meter do you use? What version would you recommend?

[@alexlencioni545]

Hi I have been cycling now for 12 months and still trying to understand all the high tech of compact crank rear cassette . Iam on a Avanti Monza road bike 🚴🏿 approximately 8 to 10 yrs old its looked after and I get it serviced regularly at TBE Perth northern suburbs . I would like to up date to carbon fibre frame with aluminium wheels spend to approximately $2000.00 can u point me in the right direction . Many thanks Alex Lencioni, cheers👍😀

[@rhood101]

the most economical stages power meter is almost the same price as my whole bike lol, I think I'll wait until the prices go down a bit more

[@Loverainsoundtrack]

waited this for a long time... :)) LIKE.. more of these guidance will be appreciate :) thanks

[@Bartisim0]

fuck yeah! thanks bro

[@MrSKOHC]

1 watt per Kilo. Got it! Great advise! Thank you!

[@kierankirk1997]

some people are unfit

[@jlebrech]

nothing wrong with 1 watt per kilo. just stay consistent and slowly crank it up.

[@tjnadah]

But in terms of using for sportives where the gradients aren't the same what strategy do you use to climb? Do you vary your watts per kg or try to keep it the same through undulating climbs? thanks

[@emcardledrogba]

Keep it the same as watts are watts. If you go downhill or uphill 200 watts is the same

[@tjnadah]

Get the D many thanks. I understood the premise of the watts being the same independent of gradient i just wasn't sure say on an easier gradient you would go up 3watts per kg and on the steeper gradients going down to 1w per kg but i guess your answer suggests just work harder to keep the gradient the same! thanks again

[@emcardledrogba]

Mellow Miles You should try to keep the same watts the whole way up a climb or any other thing if you want to go fast. If you go fast then slow lactate builds up in your muscles and makes you go slower. If you keep an even wattage you will go fastest.

[@JohnHofman76]

Hij Harley, Where do you order the Stages powermeter ? I can't find them local. 🚵👍

[@TheBrunft]

Is it possible to use the stages powermeter just with your mobile phone?

[@phxrsx]

Do a video of all of your predictions that came true Harley.

[@ryanmenezes3227]

Hey I'm a new rider, could you recommend a power meter, & Garmin device.

[@tomf7007]

Garmin 510 and garmin vetoes

[@jjprinter1]

What does watts per kilo=? Curious what the mathematical formula is? How does it (the power meter) derive this calculation? Would help me understand whats going on.

[@loopie007]

Watts/KG= Power/Your Weight. It's not important that the number be exact. It is a reference number for you to train with. I.E. Warm up at 1W/Kg, Pace at 2W/Kg, Short Hills at 5W/Kg. It's for you to set a pace with and understand what your body is doing. It's not to determine who is putting out the most power.

[@loopie007]

How does it get the calculation? You tell your cycle computer your weight, it reads in the power from your power meter as you ride and it does simple division. Power divided by your weight. = Watts/Kg

[@Ceekay420]

They look down on their Garmin all the time. They should use Google Glass or something :)

[@dallasnkanes]

What if u don’t have a bike and u can only do a spin bike

[@aiwayamaha]

awesome

[@kargs5krun]

don't know how those bikers keep their cool/concentration with all the crazies that get in their way on Le Tour courses (especially busting my hump up those hills!!!) Too many "incidents" too, I've heard over the many yrs with some of them.

[@kierankirk1997]

durian rider I got a quarq recently what benefits will oval rings give me

[@claudiosantana2019]

hey everyone, Harley or anyone else who may know, do you know of some fruitarian eating like 10,000 calories in some video? (of fruit) I think it could be a great hit for youtube and the vegan community, looking forward to seeing that

[@timlorenzschmidt965]

Any recommendations for cheap power meters?

[@ianbrown_]

Simple math way to understand power to weight. Watts per Kilo..the penny dropped today 👌

[@thepatternforms859]

Man most people generate more power when standing up out of saddle and grinding slower rpms…I don’t think you can sit and spin fast enough to get up grades steeper than 6-7%

[@durianriders]

Name one pro who wins with grinding in 2024? 😆

[@thepatternforms859]

@@durianriders pros are not “most people”. If they can generate 500 watts sitting in the saddle on a 15% grade hill spinning that is all well and fine but for 99% of people anything steeper than 10% means being FORCED out of the saddle which also means shifting a few gears UP which means cadence dropping into the 40-60 rpm range. This grinding style is forced bc the rider is out of the saddle on these steep grades. Your theory about sitting and spinning is fine for the 4-7% grade hills but anything steeper it is impossible.

[@ThrivingHuman]

what about for the ultimate novice who's just plodding?

[@LXremirP]

Power meters are great, but if I was the UCI I would ban power meters from racing. Pacing by feel should be one of the skills that determine race results. If you have a device dictating your pace you might as well get a motor pedalling for you. I don't want to see robots racing each other pretty much in time trial mode all the time.

[@armagangokturk7800]

Merhaba ben de yol yarış kullanıyorum ve SPD kullanıyorum ama Ağrı var

[@lawson7859]

Wow, you don't even mention doing tests to try and find lactate threshold power, or V02 max, powermeters are useless if you have nothing to go off, you need to know what power is in what zone for you, for example, your V02 max should be your maximum power you are able to hold over 5 minutes whilst your lactate threshold power is the maximum power you should be able to hold over 20 minutes, then you will have your maxmimum power you can hold over 1 minute and your actual maximum power (your sprint), without these zones power meters are useless, you can select a wattage and hold it, but you won't know for certain what zone that power is in and whether you can hold it for as long as you want to or even if you are capable of producing more power for the time you are riding at that wattage.

[@alexsalguero2130]

Whats your body fat%?

[@JulianJohnstone]

1%

[@qpae123]

zero, what is fat btw?

[@qpae123]

You used Endomondo?

[@stevenfoleyuk9404]

I find it hard to believe that your not sponsored , nice to see your wearing your strava tshirt lol come on your on handouts from manufacturers . Nothing wrong in that , just be honest . Show your receipts lol

[@igorchalov]

What do you think about riding fixedgear road bikes and singlespeed mtb's?

[@fiddleronthebike]

for your physic it's nonsense - because you cannot ride with the cadence, which fit's your body and the circumstances

[@igorchalov]

filmevoncosima So your body has to adopt to circumstances. Pedal sometimes slow, sometimes fast: 40 to 180 rpm. Ofcourse, classic cycling theory of optimal cadence can't be applied here. Maybe constant cadence is more efficient. But who said that human body was designed to pedal with constant speed of 90 rpm? How natural that really is? Also for some people singlespeeding is just more fun.

[@fiddleronthebike]

if for someone it is more fun - absolute fine! Buy a Singlespeed and look for roads possible to ride; I can imaging that it is a challenge and satisfaction to find the limits and push them. But try to climb a 15% hill or 60km/h+ ... :-)

[@igorchalov]

filmevoncosima Any road is possible to ride on singlespeed. That only depends on the gear choice and your condition.

[@fiddleronthebike]

if you want to climb a 15% hill, you will not ride more than 10km/h - even if your condition is very good; that means a cadence of 30 with 39/15 - but to drive 60km/h with this 39/15 needs a cadence of nearly 200!!! Both nobody can do a long time...

[@VeganPowerPL]

Can i get any advantage from power meter if i am not racing?

[@s91114]

yes for pacing with ur mate up hills

[@AdamBrussGoGo]

Yes you can hit your local hill at 150 watts and then slowly increase that. You can hold the same exact effort the whole way up the hill using the power meter reading. This makes it really easy to improve because next time you can just increase the wattage a little. Without the power reading you're guessing.

[@durianriders]

Sp33dster Freelee doesnt race but she has a 6.8kg bike with a power meter.

[@VeganPowerPL]

Ok but if i hit my local hill at 10km/h (current speed) and try to hold that speed all the way... Isn't it the same as to try to hold 150 watts (example numbers)?

[@AdamBrussGoGo]

Sp33dster No it's not the same. If there's a headwind then you'd have to put out more wattage(effort) to hold 10km/h. The grade of the hill changes. If the grade goes to 15% then 10km/h may be impossible but 300 watts is still possible. You can hold 300 watts the whole time regardless of grade/wind. But you can't just hold 10km/h necessarily and you may not want to because it could be way too easy or way too hard.

[@bananarama9347]

I am a bicycle noob but want to get a powermeter. Only I have NO idea how to chose the correct one for my bike. What do I have to look for?

[@igotadigger87]

stages for the win

[@bananarama9347]

>< Which stages for my bike?

[@igotadigger87]

one that matches your cranks mate, have a look on the website, they do 105, ultegra, and dura ace ,sadly they dont do a sram red

[@bananarama9347]

Thanks dude but unfortunately i already know that. My crank is a Shimano FC-R563/565 (says on the left side) and it has a length of 172.5. But still I don't know how to choose

[@igotadigger87]

what are you confused with then? crank length? what computer to get?

[@qpae123]

The Mavics with the power meter in the hubs are not good?

[@igotadigger87]

power tap are good, a little bit more weighty than stages but still very good

[@qpae123]

giles greening Ty, I canțt find Stages to buy here .

[@igotadigger87]

all the other ones are more expensive, giant are using a pioneer one this year, quarq, srm, cycle ops, all great power meters, but £ 4 £ stages. just import one from the us, good luck changing the battery

[@qpae123]

giles greening It cames with a new crankset arm, or I put it on the crankset?

[@durianriders]

giles greening I was riding with Kittel and Giant Shimano a few weeks ago. They were running SRM. Team Sky had SRM one day then put on Stages literally the next day.

[@TheGreatestJimmy]

harley the repeating robot.

[@MrHifonics]

Harley you are the biggest troll on the internet and I'M FUCKING LOVING IT. Before i buy a powermeter i need to know how you deal with a NUMB LEFT NUT after a long ride??

[@loopie007]

Stand up and pedal more often. Soft tissue down there needs blood. Shift up a few gears, stand and pedal. Do this until you start to feel the blood flowing, then sit and spin. Same for boys and girls.

[@MrHifonics]

loopie007 thank you i will try that in my next big ride.:)

[@AndriusVegan]

Buy good cycling shorts with proper padding, eg. assoss, seems good, can ride 3-4hrs. Also u may need to get a saddle that suits u better.

[@MrHifonics]

andriusj7 Hi, thanks for the advice but why i only get numbness on my second bike and not on my first bike they both have exactly the same saddle? i'm using castelli shorts? thanks again

[@igotadigger87]

harley would just tell you to go and invest in a proper bike fit mate, very important, also check out the specialized romin saddle

[@tomf7007]

Idk I sit at about 365 watts for a 10min hill and I'm 50kg. Is this good. Plus I'm only 14.

[@fergus1737]

if you could do that you would be in the tour de france dumbass

[@Papercleeep]

fergus allan you rekt him m8

[@mrbillybillybill]

No he wouldn't because he's only 14 loooool

[@hawkeye7862]

I doubt that, strava or it didn't happen ?

[@silentmike4320]

Mont Vaungtuu !! Sry bad french ^^

[@thinkjpb]

Lmao noobs grind. Spinners are winners. great fuckin vid man. Gonna invest in a power meter for sure

[@netfischer]

Yeah Jan Ullrich must be a noob....

[@netfischer]

I was just quoting myself 15year old canadian kid with a big nose

[@thinkjpb]

netfischer Hahaha. Jan Ullrich was a legend but I disagree that grinding is better, just a different style for a different person/body type.

[@tr3v87]

20 minute ftp test.

[@JohnHofman76]

Hij Harley, Where do you order the Stages powermeter ? I can't find them local. 🚵👍