Cycling YouTubers on Their Dream Bikes, Anti-Doping and Training for 2024

A bumper show today with ‪@TheVCAdventures‬ , ‪@Dylan‬‪@DylanJohnsonCycling‬ and ‪@NorCalCycling‬ joining us to make a cycling KZbin first.
Training gains, favourite equipment, tyre width, the best aero gear, as well as some inside KZbin gossip, this is one of the biggest and best chats we have had on the channel, if nothing else, it will make you laugh.
If you are a fan of one of these guys, you'll love hearing them talking about topics you don't normally hear them discussing, but don't worry Dylan still nerds out on science, Tyler makes us laugh while Jeff maintains his class.
Huge thanks to Jeff, Tyler and Dylan for making time and we'll be sure to do something like this again soon.
Chapters:
00:00 intro
00:30 Iron Supplementation
09:37 Amateur Doping
22:50 Altitude Camp scepticism
28:53 2024 Racing Goals
45:15 What's Your Offseason?
52:14 Ultra Cycling Pacing
58:16 2024 Bikes
1:07:44 Non-Sponsored Bikes
1:25:13 Choosing A Tyre
1:30:15 Aero Gains That Matter
1:46:11 Dylans Hot Take
1:53:12 2024 On KZbin
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[@liam_c27]

Cycling KZbin Avengers Assemble 🎯

[@TC-ik9kn]

IF Durian Rider WOULD have been invited , it would have been like .... having South park's Cartman (on NASCAR episode). hahaha

[@philipsimmonds1103]

Nah .. a bunch of narcissists.

[@livingwithfshd]

@@philipsimmonds1103 why you here then? No one wants you here

[@KevwePatani]

@@philipsimmonds1103 Takes one to know one😉

[@ebsalonga]

This format is pure gold. Different personalities united by a mutual love for cycling. Please keep doing this.

[@gregbrown3764]

AGREED, this needs to be a recurring panel. Like every couple months or so.

[@_cully]

👍 👍

[@arnoud3ss]

Could not agree more!!❤

[@GCPerformance18]

I’m kind of offended I wasn’t asked what my race plans are for next year :(

[@TjAlberto]

😂

[@gaborruda]

No question about it. But there is no chance they could improve the show next time without you. ;)

[@charlesmansplaining]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 That was funny. Why not pitch that titanium Blackheart to Chris and ask him what he thinks about it?

[@MrJohnnyTN]

I'd settle for some air in tires of that Benz

[@discbrakefan]

Well now’s your chance! What are your plans??

[@dylanpudiak7963]

Could this become a semi-annual show? One of the best Nero Shows to date. Imagine a conversation in 6 months as a "check in". Would love to watch more.

[@ChrisMillerCycling]

We had a ball doing it, so we’ll make sure to do another one … maybe as the US season ramps up (or after Tyler’s first skydive 😊)

[@ross88mac]

100% this!

[@DrAlexRitza]

Would also love another checkin. Best Nero show I’ve seen 🎉

[@moritzhemmert308]

Damn that is a awesome show…really love it. Also wanna give a compliement for cutting the podcast, no like cross talking nice audio just fucking great.❤🎉

[@Schubskii]

Bring back PT and GCperformance

[@AlexPeka]

My entire collection of inspiring cyclists on 1 screen..smashed it out the park with this one. Thank you!

[@ChrisMillerCycling]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@PatrickLino]

Holy crap this level of content should be behind a pay wall haha

[@raphaeltiziani7476]

dont make them even think about it :D

[@PatrickLino]

@@raphaeltiziani7476 hahaha

[@craigsmith5134]

Did you not get the mandatory 5 unskippable adds??

[@dasf89]

VC 2 min into the podcast: Hey, I changed my channel name, really don't want to emphasize the vegan part that much anymore everyone else: proceeds to just call him Vegan as if it was his first name old habits are hard to break I guess 😅

[@martinkroutil]

This is just amazing. I could listen to this guys talk about bikes and training all day, every day. Thanks for amazing content.

[@brucehumphries6889]

VC hit the nail on the head with the name call out. The “Gravel” guys that talked about the spirit of gravel are the same ones now that are moping after the results they get at Lifetime GP.

[@cjohnson3836]

The "spirit of gravel" people aren't sponsored racers lining up front pack. They're the grassroots people who were fucking off with friends before anyone gave a shit.

[@gaborruda]

This is the best thing ever happened to cycling youtube since the podcast, lantern rouge and some other notable, but not noted appearances. Please, make it at least quarterly. Or at least year end special. You guys rock!

[@scottpardy990]

Special edition Nero show with 3 banger guests. Christmas comes early!

[@kimrice394]

A LOT of cycling knowledge in the house!!! VC shows me how to be a Good Human. NorCal shows me strategy. Dylan shows me the science. The Nero Show literally discusses everything a group of cyclists would discuss.

[@colekalenak5087]

This needs to be an annual or regular show. Absolutely class from start to finish

[@IanGilchrist-bi7dk]

Great episode. I love that Jeff films in his garage, yet has the most beautiful lighting, colour saturation, and film quality.

[@rusty9501]

Chris, I’d like to encourage you with your content. I’m an old HUBBARD who loves to ride as often as I can. This video was awesome, the guests are all guys I’ve occasionally watched on KZbin, but getting them all together was super interesting and I for one, really enjoyed it. Please keep it going, love your work!

[@ChrisMillerCycling]

Thanks for that mate!

[@Will_Osborne]

This was probably one of my favorite shows. I’m in the US and love the cross world perspectives on cycling chat.

[@edwinot]

Hello! I’m an MD/MPH. First of all, you guys are awesome. Second, here’s some unsolicited advice/points; Careful w iron, every supplementation/ medication has side effects. Iron is extremely constipating and will change stool consistency and color. Also, evidence based add on to increase iron absorption is vitamin C. You can get both over the counter and the iron that is more easily absorbed is ferrous sulfate. In men, very low levels need to be worked up and could be related to GI issues or Bone marrow abnormalities. Other point; altitude camps. It takes approximately 3 months for the nephrons in your kidneys to adapt to altitude, afterwards they become optimal and produce more Epo etc. What happens is after the adaptation, if you take that blood and save it and then later go back to sea level and inject it ,technically it’s your own blood, but it’s “optimized”. Alright, keep up the good work.

[@HairyPantaloons]

Dylan warned about supplementing iron in his video as well. The conclusion was to get tested if you think it might be an issue and only supplement if advised to do so.

[@edwinot]

Routine iron checks are not recommended, especially for men. Only time to get “tested” is if you are having symptoms, and you’ll know if you are. If you are iron deficient, you are most likely anemic as well and those are the symptoms we are looking for. Things like pale conjuctiva, hairloss, changes in skin color, etc. Low iron in men is not typical and needs to be worked up thoroughly. The real question is what is the cause of the low iron and not the low level itself. Hope it makes sense.

[@carlosgaspar8447]

@@edwinot a simple iron test (not ferritin) is done every time you donate blood which can be as frequent as every 2 months. not a big deal. nothing to do with hair loss. all you need to do is sweat like crazy over many months and you soon find trouble recovering or doing simple interval training.

[@carlosgaspar8447]

@@HairyPantaloons not a big deal to supplement unless you have a genetic disposition for iron retention. my doctor recommended 300mg of ferrous sulphate 3x a day. i asked if one a day would suffice and the doctor said, if you want the recovery to take 3x as long. within 2 weeks i could notice the change and was almost back to normal.

[@edwinot]

@@carlosgaspar8447 Free iron levels are clinically useless. My friend I look at labs daily for a living. To assess accurate iron levels you need at least:HGB(Hemoglobin),MCV,Ferritin,TIBC and RDW. Those are just a few. A truly useful iron panel is expensive, which is not what you get when you donate blood. Also what I said is that the most common cause of iron deficiency in men is microcytic anemia. If you have significantly low iron levels you’ll have symptoms and one of them is called“telogen effluvium” which does cause hair loss. Hope it helps.

[@2001lednar]

Great job to all of you and thank you for debunking the elitist road cycling stereotype. These group chats would be great on a recurring basis.

[@koreystephens]

This is A+ purist content. This has to be monthly. Never clicked on a video so fast.

[@BadTanLines]

Oh my god it’s happening!!! Talking about your favorite hikes from 2024!! Shoot you guys are really ahead of the curve!!

[@TopseCret_101]

You’re onto something here. This should be 4+ hours.

[@ChrisMillerCycling]

HAHA!! Yeh we need to convince Jeff to forget about that whole sending rockets to the moon thing so we can record for longer 😄

[@p5ng476]

Coming from Germany, there is the Tour magazine, who put most of the hot road bikes in a windtunnel to generate some comprehensive data :)

[@MS-bw7yt]

Tyler: my setup was sooooo slow Also Tyler: I use Q rings , IRC tyres, SRAM drive train with the the 1x - 50-50...

[@emilegoguely4032]

But I looked aero 😂

[@richardharrowell7779]

One of the easiest way to track your iron level is to donate blood regularly. I go 4 times a year and I get a free haemoglobin test every time. They don't let you donate if the haemoglobin levels are too low. Measurements of Ferritin can be tricky. If you have an infection or some inflammatory thing happening in your body (an elevated CRP - C Reactive Protein), the body can lock up iron in Ferritin so the iron level appears to be high, but the body cannot use it.

[@tommenke836]

That is how I found out about my low iron levels. However, giving away red blood cells hinders performance the same way as having low iron. It takes the body around three weeks to replenish red blood cells after donation.

[@BigTscycling]

VC aka JEDI COWBOY- you left your light saber on an it's burning a hole in your 10 gallon hat. Dylan - your Luna bars are expired, throw them out, they are messing with your iron levels. Jeff- your empty frame sitting up on your wall is lonely and jealous of your Winspace. Time to turn it into your 2024 dream bike, but not VCs dream Felt. Jesse- you need to adjust the temp on your house thermostat, your plant is dying. Maybe give it some water. Chris- you forgot to put your bibs away, they are hanging on the wall behind you, just an observation. But really tho, love you guys, loved the discussion during my Z2 ride. Keep smashing it and keep the content coming. Thanks!!!!

[@davidfindlay8158]

Brilliant listen guys, thanks all, and all the best for next year 👍

[@ChrisMillerCycling]

Thanks for listening

[@floam11]

Tour magazine is doing aero and stiffness testing of bikes since forever. One might argue about their protocol, but the fact is that their database is the best and most diverse out there.

[@floam11]

Amazing episode btw ❤❤

[@JayLato]

1:33:28 Jeff’s joke was so under appreciated.

[@RimBrakeKing]

He was so pleased with it too which made it so much funnier haha

[@kalani707]

Content creator Dream Team!! Thanks for pulling this amazing gang together AND not using the f-word (“fr*th”) until 1:25 in!!😂😂

[@thetinusnl8834]

1:18:16 😂😂😂 I love Jesse 1:23:21 there's this German magazine called Tour Magazin that does frame aero tests, although I'm highly questioning applicability of their results in the real world given their methodology.

[@mrwezbo]

What an episode. It's like you've taken 2hrs from each of the best cycling channels into 1 single vid.

[@michaelsanders3395]

Props to you guys for waiting your turn whilst talking. The conversation was unexpectedly smooth! Great pod

[@2001lednar]

@DylanJohnsonCycling, we would actually prefer Backward Ballcap Guy get more personal

[@rexthedog9637]

loved it! Worth repeating at the end of 2024

[@martinhudobivnik5895]

I haven't subscribed to VC like many others, but I get his videos in my feed every time, unless he doesn't upload for a few months. So I'd say even if most of the views are from non subscribers, a lot more than 15% are from people who regularly watch his videos. I would argue a minority is the new algorhytm people.

[@joshpower1073]

Oh god I couldn't even wait for my turbo ride to listen. This gonna be lit

[@beetroot6591]

this wAS amazung 10/10 lets make this into a series boys

[@andrewschirmer3849]

Congrats all on another fab episode and special congratulations to Jesse and partner for becoming parents. 🎉

[@joemewes1811]

Great conversation. Thank to all.

[@richardacerra2975]

I follow all of you religiously and I can relate to the feeling of working your heart out and coming in the top 20, even with the best lifetime fitness. I work hard in the gym and on the road and follow a good diet to participate in 4 or 5 Fondos each year. My goal is finishing and not being the "lanterne rouge". I'm 73 and remember when I really could ride. Clip pedals, steel frame, tubular, wool shorts and all. Folks tell me I'm doing great just for finishing 100 miles, yet inside I can't get used to not keeping up with the lead group. Listen to an old guy. YOU GUYS ARE KILLING IT!

[@michaeltucker35]

That was a bloody rippa! Thanks lads ❤

[@karllove1274]

I love this. Just 5 KZbin mates chewing the fat!

[@martin-samsoe]

I absolutely LOVED that show! Please do it again... like twice a year or something 😀🤘❤️

[@ToogiDesign]

awesome interview with all the guys i want to hear from. thank you for the amazing content, as always!

[@nicolasroux14]

Launch a crowdfunding for your trip to a bike show! I'll happily contribute 🙂

[@sharonmoller7414]

Fantastic episode with an all-star cast. The perfect holiday special 🎉

[@julienhuxley4172]

Awesome show guys thanks for putting it together

[@byrnze1710]

This episode needs a ribbon in the screenshot because it felt like Christmas getting most of my top KZbinrs in one place. Great year content wise to all involved, keep them coming and we will be here to watch #filmitandtheywillcome 😂

[@outdoorbros_]

Saturday bonus episode! I love that Jeff said you can walk into GCN and get a supplement. He’s a true cyclist through and through.

[@NorCalCycling]

GNC* my mind was on bikes what can I say 😅

[@outdoorbros_]

@@NorCalCycling I know, I know- wasn’t meant to be a dig by any means. Great insight on this one 👌🏻

[@stuartmisfeldt3068]

This was so funny! Brits might know about GNC!

[@outdoorbros_]

@@stuartmisfeldt3068 for sure. I spent years in the supplement world and knew exactly what he meant when he said it. Such a great episode.

[@erinrand9168]

This was a really good listen, love the collab.

[@davidtipping7731]

This was awesome guys. Great to see the big round table discussion.

[@madmonkeycycling9098]

Cannabis is detectable in bloodwork for 100 days but the first athlete performing better smoking joints, still has to be found. It's a ridiculous banned substance. The most performance enhacing (TUE) drug is Cortisones which is still being abused and testing is ridiculously low because of the high costs

[@Currieinahurrycycles]

Great stuff guys!!!! Really enjoyed that... Hopefully you all get together again soon 💪

[@MrPhillian]

Thanks guys, great stuff this year.

[@rickjansky1560]

Wow I loved this. What a perfect panel of guest! Thanks for putting this together for us to enjoy!

[@AeroPortoCiclismo]

Nice one brothers, thanks for making my Saturday afternoon more enjoyable - once I’m locked inside from a femur fracture 😅 Cheers!

[@chrismadge7292]

Your best one yet. Great content and chat.

[@johnblogs5732]

Top chats, well done on putting this together 🎉

[@mikegordon2554]

Thanks to VC, Dylan is totally getting tested next year.. 😂

[@user-ev4ge5lb5x]

Really good show guys! Thanks for all the work I’m sure it took to coordinate and produce this!

[@SR-fm1ft]

This is the best thing on KZbin love the podcast!

[@johnratz7657]

This is awesome thanks for assembling this squad of cycling KZbin gurus!

[@Thomas5937]

This was a great episode! Felt like everyone had great chemistry

[@BevandEdMusic]

Such a good video chaps. Already looking forward to the next time you get the gang back together!

[@SuperbikeRob]

Great job on the video guys!! Always enjoy it!!

[@alde1759]

Wow. Can’t wait for more like this next year. I followed all of you.

[@dopamethyldopa]

This is just what i needed on a rainy saturday morning ride in my garage

[@LeonidKolomiytsev]

What a great episode! It was a pleasure listening to you guys!

[@MagicFrisby]

Great show. Love the topics, the flow between speakers was good. The video feed was good. Took me a bit of time to watch/listen to it all since i was consuming it while on the trainer. Love all those creaters already :). Congrats Jesse with the baby.

[@ruiloureiro3167]

Great episode guys, thank you!

[@Hangingofgiants]

Excellent show! Cant wait till the next one!

[@3blindmiceAUS]

Along with absolutely loving the content, I just want to add a shout out for the editing & production - nicely done. Made a great show even better.

[@jongoerke8983]

Loved it!!! Keep up the great work.

[@neilmckenna236]

Absolutely brilliant guy's. So good to listen to 'the chat' 👏👌

[@itsok2023]

This is the pointy end of the race for cycling content in the world. I get so much from watching all of these content creators. They are the best at what they do and their authenticity shines through. I wish absolute ❤on these creators and only hope that they are compensated much more than they already receive. Much, Much, more. This is world class. And add Mitch Boyer to this list. Thank you creators.

[@dimagrab3132]

Thank you for this podcasts. This stuff is golden!

[@rodrigocruz360]

These guys are great, awesome content. Please do more of these!

[@trous]

this was a great group discussion - please more!

[@artbou9201]

One of my favorite show yet!!! So good

[@victorperezab]

Thoroughly enjoyed this one!! Thanks guys

[@pano360]

Great convos, this should run quarterly 😊

[@binitbob]

Absolutely brilliant, informative, entertaining and genuine responses. You guys knocked that right out of the park. 👍

[@RK01]

Great episode, a collection of some of my favourite content creators. Looking forward to every thing you all produce in 24.

[@danielvenancio7483]

Really enjoyed that, thanks guys 🙏

[@stuartmisfeldt3068]

I’ve been wanting this kind of presentation for a few years now. Thanks for getting these guys together. Love to see more panels including other presenters and topics.

[@user-yn7qk8gp4u]

Hands down best podcast you guys have put on... Watch you every week and you're just getting better and better. Fantastic format and intention to making sure people aren't talking over each other. Awesome!

[@jamesgoddard5131]

Thank you for spending the time on a longer episode. 1.5 to 2 hours is perfect to cover the whole training session 👏

[@roblillicrap9014]

offseason gold - chapeau for getting all these cycling creators on one call/show. Love all the perspectives and experiences being shared here.

[@Ghostina1]

OMG... this gonna be epic!

[@edlaverack]

FINALLY got around to watching this and was everything I expected it to be. Love the format and the conversations that I can relate to first hand. Thank you guys!

[@darrellstyner0001]

Great discussion. I hope you guys find time to do it again soon.

[@adammckinney6850]

I loved the round table type of podcast! You guys should definitely do it at least once or twice a year.

[@benelumbaugh8928]

Love this! More of this please!

[@duaner3817]

Amazing idea. Amazing video!! Thanks everyone.

[@glenhill7057]

Absolute brilliant podcast boys, without a doubt best one so far. Please do this again in the new year... 🙏

[@alsayers]

Nice guys. Enjoyed it!

[@CherBoy8]

It’s as if each of my favorite TV characters came together for a finale…hope there will be more!

[@NeilCaplan]

Big fan of this format, well played gents.

[@torontocycling]

Solid edition of the podcast. Keep it up guys🤘👊👌

[@hyperdunkn]

Perfect for my two hour drive today. Thanks Nero Show