Cyclist wants me to go through red light

#sillycyclist
If you aren't comfortable in sitting in that position, then don't stop there. There are plenty of other options available which would have seen this rider get to his destination at the same time. I fear based on his riding style that I had seen previously, he's more about go go go, then thinking about the dangers.
Of course, I did technically go through the red light at the end as I pushed off on red and amber, note the car moves at the same time as me.

[@BedsitBob]

"I wasn't expecting you to stop." You weren't expecting him to stop at a red light?

[@johnmanning5568]

Of course not! He’s a cyclist. Red lights don’t apply as can be seen at the very end of the video.

[@tomblewomble3369]

He put himself in a compromising situation and it's somehow your responsibility.

[@ohsomiso]

The council did as the road had plenty of room for cycle stopping area. We will get them on health and safety as they get everyone else

[@HumansAreShitFactories]

That’s the story of the entire human race

[@adrianryan1975]

Well done mate. It's good to see a cyclist that uses the road follow the rules

[@roberts.reilly2171]

I had a similar thing happen yesterday where another rider told me not to yield to a car that clearly had right of way. Lots of silly cyclists out there

[@CycleGaz]

Keep safe!

[@flippos]

Most heated British argument recorded in history: -"That's quite pathetic" -"It's not though"

[@_DMAC]

You were clearly stopped and sitting there when he approached from behind. Tool.

[@KandiKlover]

Yes he was definitely wanting Gaz to run the light.

[@andrewnorris5415]

He lied to save face. But the camera does not lie.

[@JoeSoap76]

Watching him filter up the *inside* of that bus at the pedestrian crossing just goes to show that either he really doesn't have very good cyclecraft, or the red mist had descended and he was target-fixated on you. I say *either*... And I wouldn't be surprised if he ripped that mask off and sat gulping air down just as soon as he spotted you turning left. What a fool.

[@TenFalconsMusic]

Gaz cranks out 10x more power than that wank on his best day.

[@kevhunta]

how come when they are in the wrong they always resort to an insult

[@cryptabixsignals8863]

@@TheWeightliftingTriathlete "that's pretty pathetic" is an insult

[@itchyscratch6328]

Cammer thought he said 'pathetic' but he actually says 'pedantic' (I think) which is less of an insult, more of an observation.

[@mica91700]

How can you feel safe being stopped between a bus and a car? I suppose that’s the point of a cycle short section in front if red lights, which obviously is missing here...

[@EllipticGeometry]

Worries about being trapped by cars. Passes a bus in a lane that it’s about to enter fully. Props to that bus driver, by the way. Also kind of props to the cyclist for choosing a mode of transport that’s unlikely to cause significant harm to others. Imagine his judgment as a car driver.

[@CycleGaz]

It's funny eh. I saw him doing a few other dodgy things previously as well. But my eyes where better the cameras lens.

[@Rose.Of.Hizaki]

sadly the UK government thinks that bicycles are more lethal than cars when it comes to mowing down pedestrians. I shit you not.

[@SKBKER]

@@Rose.Of.Hizaki It's not the Government . It's oil companies and car companies . They are quite powerful and they don't like the idea of people using bicycles as it will afect their profit margin . They also hate EVs because of the same thing . Go to any site about EVs and I guarantee you there will be a ton of hate - mot being from oil/car trolls .

[@Rose.Of.Hizaki]

@@SKBKER Its the government. car sales have been at an all time low due to the economic climate. Nothing will change that. It costs a lot of money to keep a car on the road due to inflation and the plethora of taxes and stealth taxes you have to pay. Nevermind about how hard the law comes down on cyclists when a pedestrian runs across a busy road and into the path of a cyclist. knocking them flat. even drivers who knock cyclists off and almost kill them dont get as much punishment or jail time.

[@SKBKER]

@@Rose.Of.Hizaki Where do you think a lot of tax money comes from (aka fuel tax) . This is what makes the Government a lot of money . New cars sales are very low but used cars sales have gone up . Oil is still being used heavily and oil companies love that . Cyclists are on the rise but it's a slow rise and we need more help from other organisations .

[@PaulFoye]

Good on ya! I also had this situation, and because I didn’t move, he hit my back wheel... I didn’t want to escalate the situation, so ignored him

[@brainnya]

He's clearly part of the go-ahead group

[@Benjamin-ej8oz]

2:00 the tension is palpable

[@ManiPlaysYT]

Pretty sure he’s not changing gears lol

[@joelt3944]

I hate it when people dont follow basic road laws. When I am cycling I just think of it as driving a car but take into consideration my slower speed and make sure to give cars plenty of room.

[@hunterhemingway3477]

Look a Bicycle can ride down a busy promenade with little risk. A car on the other hand is a different story. Traffic Lights were effected for vehicles; bicycles, their size and mass, really pose little danger to crowds. Plus, when on a bicycle, you're at such a risk your senses are fine tuned. The war on cyclists is preposterous. And in most cities/small towns the Bicycle is a much better way of travelling, for health/pollution/convenience/enjoyment.

[@veloevol]

Ah Brixton. It wasn't pathetic but some may say pedantic. Personally I try not to plug the gap. I'd feel safer in front of the bus.

[@Fredders88]

My thoughts exactly 'I'd feel safer in front of the bus' and not wedged between two vehicles. Never known any policeman tell me off or ticket me for being in front of the white line (and I used to cycle in many of the places in this guy's videos). always mindful of pedestrians btw.

[@CyclingMikey]

That guy really isn't a very good rider, IMO. I love the whoosh as you drop him, and then the extra wait for the chances of pedestrians still crossing as you go to pass the bus at the pedestrian crossing.

[@CycleGaz]

His filtering on the inside of the bus at that crossing was a bad idea as well. Lucky the bus driver appeared to notice and changed his angle to give him space. I did find it quite amusing at the next set he really went for it as if he was proving a point that he was faster. I had caught him originally in streatham, he did some risky filtering which gave him a gap over me, then we see the RLJ. I caught him at the lights at the top of streatham hill and when they turned green I left him for dead, not even visible on my rear camera. And that's a good mile and a half until he caught me again. So he knows i'm faster, accelerating and top speed.

[@CyclingMikey]

@@CycleGaz Yeah, that was the worst bit I saw.

[@nickwf70]

It's always the slow one that go through Reds and take stupid risks

[@kasimsultonfan]

Every day's a little war , isn't it ? Dropping people , smoking them , leaving them for dead , grasping every tiny opportunity for conflict. What happened to just "cycling". Cylegaz? Cycledick .

[@DigiKunt]

He's known as Mr Statistic

[@barbarybar]

A cyclist went to the red light district of Amsterdam. Went straight through without stopping.

[@Velofil]

I too would wear the black mask of shame :-)

[@paulflory3532]

Amusing that he worries more about the hazards of air pollution than getting squashed thanks to sketchy moves in traffic (assuming that his mask is some sort of filter?).

[@MrSapps]

its probably just a piece of cloth pumping loads of fibres into his lungs lol

[@azulleth9401]

I ride while always trying to work with other road users aside from following high way code I will be courteous drivers by letting them pull out by slowing down, signaling they can pull out if needed. The red light hoppers are basically the opposite of the drivers who feel they have a right to be in front of all cyclist, even when we are at the speed limit. London cycling really does make me think of minesweeper at any moment you can step on a bomb/ meet an arsehole.

[@swss]

Good to see you didn’t put up with him non sensical argument.

[@chrisdevine4848]

I love how you leave them for dust! :)

[@gustavmeyrink_2.0]

Are you the brother of CampingGaz?

[@GeorginaWilcox]

The real hero here is the bus driver. 99% of the time I think London TfL bus drivers are excellent.

[@TimpBizkit]

I find the cycling sounds in your outro soothing. I've made some mistakes on a bike - like going down a hill in Bath and all the traffic stopped around the corner so I had to slam on the brakes, but ran out of braking room so pulled right around the car at the back of the queue (or else I would have ran into the back of them) and a bus driver had to stop.

[@OnYourLeft]

I believe stopping at red lights and stop signs actually makes a rider stronger.

[@fokiohero]

1:13 turbo boost engaged

[@realjay247]

Well done for standing your ground and refusing to cross the stop line.

[@matttrevers2552]

Both of you were foolish for trying to squeeze into that gap. You should have both stopped behind the grey Merc. But from the position you were in, it would have been clearly safer to roll into the space in front of the bus. So what if it's jumping the light? Better that than gambling your safety on the attentiveness of two drivers who you've squeezed between.

[@Charlienmeg]

He says "that's quite pedantic". I love an eloquent pillock.

[@edj4833]

An advanced box for cyclists is missing here - it would solve this issue. Good on the cammer but I wouldn't personally be happy to start off between vehicles. I do kind of understand the guy behind if he wasn't planning to skip the lights , in that in half the junctions you have advanced stop and half not , which is a bit of a mixed message to cyclists. More than anything the junction designers seems to be at fault with that massive empty space in front of the traffic that could be used as an advanced stop box to improve safety.

[@Matt7895]

43 downvotes from RLJing cyclists.

[@SamGibson]

Gaz cycling away at 800w after saying his piece is the equivalent of a cyclist's mic drop

[@CycleGaz]

1,249 peak recorded away from those lights. Funny thing is I wasn't even out of the saddle!

[@SamGibson]

@@CycleGaz Strong hammies

[@SKBKER]

Yup and we still have a pathetic 250W law on ebikes .

[@icebluelove1676]

The driver of that gray car crossed the stop line while the light was red. So basically jumped the red light.

[@c7uk]

I had the exact same conversation last month, except I was on my Scooter... maybe it’s the same guy 😁

[@Longs81]

You tell him Gaz, what an absolute tool.

[@DavidFraser007]

I missed this one. He's not really a cyclist, his girlfriend won't let him use the car.

[@jamestester4413]

Fair play for Standing up and saying me personally i would have called him a prick and told him to wait for me and like you said he could have waited further back

[@gbtalk152]

I just knew there must be one sensible law-abiding cyclist somewhere in the country

[@ryancruz1876]

He didn’t expect people to stop at red lights? 🤨

[@clarkeugene5727]

I wouldn't ever consider even visiting that city. Not even in a cab. Far too many unfriendly people to convince me to spend my money there.

[@ForkCandle123]

How come it's deemed ok by cyclists to go through very narrow gaps between vehicles and to undertake with only a very narrow gap? It surely isn't ok.

[@BlakeSmith17]

cyclist: We want to be treated like other road users. Also cyclist: Red light? What that?

[@iammarkbutler]

well done my friend - a conversation I have had many times with London cyclists!!!!

[@geography_man]

so according to that cyclist not breaking the law is pathetic

[@andy1dp]

Yet another KZbinr who looks for confrontation and minor content to make some kind of event out of it🙄 If the other cyclist HAD actually done something, stupid, illegal, dangerous or had a crash then worth a video. But publishing an exchange of opinions at a set of lights is laughable. You could of simply ignored him at the lights and moved on without any fuss! If every cyclist, driver & pedestrian engaged in these confrontations the world would stand still and KZbin would implode 🙄🙄🙄

[@CycleGaz]

There is some kind of irony about your comment content and the fact that commented.

[@andy1dp]

CycleGaz You clearly don’t understand the meaning of “Irony” 😬

[@CycleGaz]

Think of it that way if you wish. But it shows you really don't see how your comment reads.

[@andy1dp]

CycleGaz Maybe you cant read it as it’s written? In simply terms I enjoy watching entertaining videos of this type where something actually happens. This isn’t or never will be one of them. Move on and get a life instead making something out of what was absolutely nothing in other words! Life is too short 🙄

[@CycleGaz]

I'm sorry that you don't enjoy all of the content that I upload. People have different tastes and some people in enjoy this. I upload videos for various reasons. Indeed, as you say, life is too short. So downvote the video and move to the next if you don't enjoy it. I look at how each video does from up/down votes and may change how I upload things.

[@Woppettier]

It's also better for you own visibility to stop in front of the vehicles though

[@CycleGaz]

Or you can stop behind. Being in front of people that are light watching isn't necessarily the safest thing to do.

[@matthewbeard2300]

He must be very important to do that. OUt of the way, how dare you stop at a red light (sarcasm)

[@MalleusMalefica]

Gaz, you broke the law anyway. Those zigzags at the crossing mean you cannot overtake the lead vehicle. Yet you overtook the bus and went over the crossing. This puts pedestrians on the crossing in danger.

[@CycleGaz]

You would be right, if you were right. Perhaps have a read of the legislation around zig-zags: The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002 section 28 "a zig-zag line shall convey the requirement that, whilst any motor vehicle (in this regulation called “the approaching vehicle”) or any part of it is within the limits of a controlled area and is proceeding towards the signal-controlled crossing facility to which the controlled area relates, the driver of the vehicle shall not cause it or any part of it- (a)to pass ahead of the foremost part of any other motor vehicle proceeding in the same direction; or (b)to pass ahead of the foremost part of a vehicle which is stationary for the purpose of complying with the indication given by a traffic light signal for controlling vehicular traffic."

[@MalleusMalefica]

@@CycleGaz perhaps the law should be changed to ensure it does apply to cyclists. As we have seen an upward trend in people killed or seriously injured by cyclists. The tendency for cyclists to race toward a crossing and overtake large vehicles at speed combined with the tendency for many pedestrians to be staring down at their phones creates a dangerous situation. I suppose you didn't break the law by moving across the crossing whilst pedestrians were still using it either?

[@CycleGaz]

@@MalleusMalefica On average, 5 people a day are killed in the UK by motorists. That's over 1,700 a year. On average, 2 people a year are killed by cyclists in the UK. Jog on with your complete and total bullshit, it will not fly here.

[@MalleusMalefica]

@@CycleGaz there's nothing wrong with changing a law if the goal is to improve road safety. It's not a competition. Ideally I would like to see 0 people killed or seriously injured on the roads. 99% of pedestrians KSI involve motorised vehicles, but pedestrians KSI by cyclists has doubled in the past decade. The rate of these incidents has increased disproportionately to the number of cyclists on the roads. Maybe it's not a huge problem.. but if you can reduce the issue.. Why would you not?

[@markboscawen8330]

The lights had changed before completing the overtake. That pedestrians were still in the crossing area at that time means they must have left the kerb way too late. Especially the woman darting from the blind area in front of the bus.

Lights are for cars. No cars no lights need. Actually I too stop when there are some priority to respect, but stoping ‘cause of the light, no. Enjoy!

[@CycleGaz]

Not in the UK. Lights are for all.

[@RichardCBroughton]

His saddle's a bit low to the pedals

[@thesphyrth]

Haha. I caught that too. And I thought, "Is he trying to maintain his sprint with that? Pfft."

[@ThatGoth]

I'd have never jammed myself between the vehicles and would have stayed back for safety. Maybe the guy wanted to run the red light as he was really slow lol, can't believe he then jammed himself up the inside of a bus, he still managed to run the next red light even with an ASL.

[@George-sc4yh]

He undertook the bus too.

[@abrahamcusters2987]

A cyclist waiting for a red light. How unique.

[@wwof1646]

Credit to this chap, a proper cyclist.. he idiot behind gives all cyclists a really bad name .. no wonder other road users dislike cyclist.. to the video uploaded stay safe out there.

[@timertown4215]

You left him for dust haha

[@BanacaNation]

terrybarentsen's Monster Track XX footage got everyone in Alleycat mode.

[@prof1982]

It's fairly obvious from this and many other videos that the people putting cyclists at risk are cyclists. They can't help themselves.

[@samuel_excels]

What an artless fool! Going up the inside of the bus at that pedestrian crossing was horrifically dangerous and just to catch you after you left him for dust from the last stopline. What a prat.

[@DimwitDrive]

Hi CycleGaz, how's it going? May I feature this clip on my channel? If so, could you tell me where this happened? And do you have any further comment on the incident? Thanks for your consideration

[@RoadkillGoat1]

Why would you sit in between the bus and the car dangerous behaviour if there's no asl you should have stopped behind the car. Preach about red lights but are perfectly happy abkut sitting in the danger zone.

[@CycleGaz]

I'm happy to be there. Not my problem he isn't.

[@darrenshaw767]

I'd say that's one nil to cyclegaz

[@tomblewomble3369]

Not comparable, one is illegal, the other is a choice.

[@ten_tego_teges]

@@tomblewomble3369 It's pointless to be "legal" when you and the drivers are a lot more comfortable when you move into the space in front of the car. You are "technically" breaking the law, but you're not threatening anyone, because there is a lot of space in front of the cars. He'd also be able to see the light. Being overly literal with the law isn't a virtue in an of itself. If he wants to be so orderly he should have stopped behind the bus instead of squeezing in.

[@petercroft1901]

I know people who have 1st class honours degrees, yet zero common sense on the roads.

[@theinspector1023]

Good for you, mate!

[@Fredders88]

I'm with the guy behind - best to get ahead and away from the traffic when you can - we're not all as fast as CycleGaz.

[@Fredders88]

Judiciously, yes. What the guy behind was asking for here was to get in front of the bus, so he could pull away and not cycle with traffic but get a bit in front of it. Think CG was being a bit unreasonable here.

[@peterlee6374]

@@Fredders88 or how about the cyclist behind use some raid awareness and not put himself in a position where he didn’t feel safe “between two cars” Or that too much to ask??

[@gary1642]

Most cyclist's are drivers too . I don't get this is them thing. Especially when cyclist's are so vulnerable .

[@ScotHawk77]

Some people default to blaming others for their poor forward-planning, like this plonker. I suppose he was at least polite enough about it, but he did seem to cut in front of you to boost his own ego [rolls eyes].

[@danhemsley]

The little dweeb just had to position himself in front. See how he frantically undertook the bus?

[@CycleGaz]

Yup, funny eh. I had previously caught him about 2 -3 miles before, and despite him jumping lights, I caught up with him and left him behind.

[@SKBKER]

Gaz in some circumstances you have to 'nudge' the law slightly . He was in a bad position whether his fault or not . You could have helped him a little . It's not like he was speeding or using his phone in a car . It would have been safe to let him go further forward . I can't really accept what you did but there we go .

[@CycleGaz]

His position really wasn't that bad. Only his cycling is bad. There is plenty of space behind that car he could have stopped in. And because of that as the car sets off, he can just wait a split second, then set off with nothing much to his right. We really shouldn't pander to these requests from people that are willing to flagrantly break the law because they think it doesn't apply to them. And for what? Because he wants to be at work 20 seconds quicker.

[@Virre737]

Cycclegaz should move because other cyclists cant stop properly? Ok...

[@Ob1sdarkside]

He put himself in that position, his fault.

[@SKBKER]

Guys he put himself in that position and he is a moron but still you have to help sometimes . You don't know he would have gone through the red . Personally I would have moved forward a bit . We should be helping each other not being enemies .

[@CycleGaz]

Crossing the stop line is going through the red. So either he is going to stop where I am (pointless) or he is going over the stop line.

[@Alan-xxxxxx]

Strange that there was no ASL at that light

[@georgelane6350]

That's awful cycle craft. I'm surprised you gave him as many responses as you did!

[@believe-in-righteousness]

Well done mate you are a good person

[@sporo2000]

Yes, but didn't you stop in the space reserved for cyclists, or are mopeds allowed to stop there?

[@CycleGaz]

I'm on a bicycle.

[@tesstickle7267]

I'd say there is a good chance you have a car/bike licence or at least studied the high way code.

[@MrSapps]

Even kids should know not to run red lights

[@SilvioDiego]

Maybe he just wanted to ask you if you were the real Cyclegaz?

[@johnf3326]

Good for you! 👍

[@kiddywolf1837]

Cyclist totally in wrong!

[@paolopicchioldi2797]

It's worth and Safe to take position forward and stop there To start with bus and cars around You is the real risk !

[@CycleGaz]

Then don't stop between vehicles. Don't expect others to get out of your way because of your own bad forward planning.

[@MrSapps]

*Drives and crashes into stopped car* wow that car didn't move, THEY are the REAL risk!!!1

[@cnay2983]

You should have let him through. He wasn't going to cut the lights he just put himself into an uncomfortable position. Be nice to other cyclist not passive aggressive. He probably is new to it...

[@OghiFlan]

Have you got a motor on that bike or just rapid on the sprint lol

[@OghiFlan]

Just watched the back cam, front cam looked way faster lol, my bad

[@andy-the-gardener]

Its always nice to see members of the black community on a bike, going against the powerful stigma of failure that black women in particular feel cycling indicates, and almost total ignorance and disdain of environmental issues within most ethnic cultures. Just saying lol

[@AJGeeTV]

How horrible it must be to cycle there. Hope you get cycling infrastructure like we have in mainland Europe so that you don't have to behave like Tour de France cyclists.

[@Havalaf24]

You left him so far behind at the first lights, he went back in time..... what a tool.

[@turrican4d599]

2:28 Car going way too fast.

[@petef15]

look at him sprinting away on that fixie haha

[@Abe.Wassenstein]

That’s no fixie.

[@bretmohler9719]

@@Abe.Wassenstein yeah it is. its one of the ones that has a rear mech and cassette attached to it and you can coast. like the best fixie ever!! hahah

[@gowithbazza]

The cyclists should have stayed behind the car

[@alanhindmarch7682]

It’s good to see cyclists like yourself abiding by the rules of the road and of course there are those who you highlight who don’t, I’m surprised more aren’t killed. I live in a large town, the problem we have is cyclists on the pavement. I was once hit by a cyclists riding on the pavement who tried to blame me for being in the way!

[@neiltrevatt]

I understand you don’t want to jump lights but don’t sit there in between the bus and car very dangerous

[@robton007]

Small minority giving cyclists a bad name

[@BedsitBob]

Why does he have a red light on the front of his bike?

[@CycleGaz]

It's my rear light reflecting off his front.

[@kgilliagorilla2761]

Brits are so polite.

[@MikeJRe2ipi]

Is it cold in London?

[@CycleGaz]

Nah, temperature was around 8C

[@andrecao8371]

LMA000 fucking drops him after the light changes

[@projectcyclingfitness1160]

May be driver would have preferred if you stopped on the roof of his car. Suppose with a BMX bike you could do that if cars have blocked roads that you can't get through normaly.

[@DAZLIN6]

Turbo gaz 🚀

[@MrRobket]

I think he said "Pedantic", not "Pathetic"

[@CycleGaz]

Nope, he said pathetic.

[@itchyscratch6328]

I'm sure I hear 'pedantic' too, which makes sense as you are excessively concerned with road rules more than most (a good thing)

[@TheFinnersdude]

Why u gotta block it tho if you stopping? Shoulda just waited behind car

[@peterlee6374]

Wouldn’t the cyclists be “blocking it” also?? He moaned he was “stuck between to cars” So basically what he want to do was jump the red light and sit infront if either the bus or car

[@GS-wg9bh]

Well done for not letting him through.

[@jacks4774]

You are fast do you have a battery fitted to your bike

[@CycleGaz]

Nope.

[@jjfros]

Its about time they banned all cars from London