CYCLONE PUZZLE SOLUTION

[@elem-sike4161]

Holy cow so I am doing right. It’s just that the new cast puzzles suck. I see everyone in the comments with the same complaints. I can almost take apart the first two rings. But the gaps in the surrounding rings aren’t enough to separate the first ones. Thanks for the help!

[@Yominokun1]

This will probably a bit late, but feel i had the same problem. Not sure if it's exactly the same problem, so if you notice a burr on the inside of the hanayama pieces, just take a knife to that burr. That gave me enough room (without cutting into the piece itself) to manage the move, and doing it a few times got rid of some of the shiny finish on the cyclone pieces so they actually look like they are on the box. Definitely bad quality control on the finish on this product.

[@bubber4444]

Great job once again Ross. I could not have done it without you. I like this puzzle somewhat but there is definitely some force involved and I believe a proper puzzle should not require ANY force. Can't wait for the next one. Thanks.

[@RossDM]

Thanks Wayne, I'm glad I could help! I think I agree

[@tylerbeastgarrett]

There is a way to do it without any force! You just have to get it all into the perfect position.

[@bubber4444]

I bought 2 of them. I waited a few months to get the second one to see if a different batch would help the forcing issue but the problem is still there on both of them. Ross's way and Mr. puzzles way of solving both work but both require force to solve. The force issue has improved as the plating wears off. I also believe that different batches could have very slightly different tolerance witch is why some people don't have this problem. It seems most people have to force it.@@tylerbeastgarrett

[@PermanentPsychosis]

I too had to force the first disconnect. IMO as a former metal machinist, I think the issue is the very tight tolerances involved in manufacturing. When you're mass producing something like this where it's down to ten-thousandth of an inch, that +/-.0001 makes a huge variance in each one that in return affects the individual experience. My complaint is serious hand cramping! TY Ross for your guide.

[@TheWorstestEver]

I thank you so much for this video. I’ve been trying to figure this one out for weeks. As for using force, I may have one that was made slightly better than most here, because with proper alignment, the pieces just kinda fall into place and come apart.

[@srbojangals]

It's a tough call to subscribe, because it shows that I have failed at a puzzle... but you make great videos. So you deserve it.

[@PGeraghtyrebel]

Haha ok I thought I was going crazy. I knew I had the right position but it is a tight fit. Thanks for getting me through this!

[@RossDM]

Yeah, it's super tight. Glad this helped!

[@bobsteb61]

Idk if id do that "peace" at the end again lol but thank u so much. Great video. I just got this one and it was frustrating the Heck outta me lol glad I found ur channel. I've really gotten into these hanayama puzzles lately

[@RossDM]

Thanks! They're good fun. I just solved the newest one, the Valve

[@bobsteb61]

@@RossDM ohhh. Is it a hard one? I'll have to check that out

[@maths8042]

i just spend hours trying to solve this, so i end up coming to watch you video and YOU DO THE EXACT same thing i have been trying to do that whole time and you manage to do the moove in less than a seconde. what are your secrets???

[@RossDM]

No secrets, just lots of practise :)

[@Yominokun1]

Finally got this one, and played with it for a few weeks. Managed the first move pretty quickly, but the second move just stumped me. Couldn't get it through in any way, so decided to look at the pdf of the solution, to see if i was atleast in the right ballpark. According to that i was, and it's just "twist". Now the amount of force i need to use, from the exact position in the PDF is ludicrous. I got it apart, but it literally hurts my hands. Then couldn't get them back together to the previous state, so decided to check your video, and again, the amount of force needed is just ridiculous. I also tried Mr.Puzzle's solution for the second part (which is the position i was trying most of my moves in, since it seemed like the most likely), which seems to follow the hanayama's PDF solution, but same thing. It seems the shiny finish compared to the pre-production model is completely throwing off the tolerances. I can see a serious burr on the inside of each inner edge, and in the notches, which doesn't let the gap interlock (the inner edge of the hanayama pieces, is about 1/2 thicker than the edge is supposed to be at the thinnest part). I have no idea how they put these together, they must be done by hand, but i'd guess they really just use some tools to put more force on them to do it more easily in the production process, or even just to get around certain moves in some puzzles. Thanks for the guide, but this puzzle needs more than a guide. It needs quality control, or for Hanayama to just stop with the shiny finish. It just makes tight tolerances too tight or even impossible to do without force (though this is the first one where it's this extreme, for me).

[@Yominokun1]

Oh, after writing this, i decided on a bit of an extreme step, and took a knife and worked the burrs down a bit. That made it easier to do the move (just a bit of force instead of literally bending it apart). Then doing the move a few times, i noticed i "damaged" the tip of the cyclone pieces, and now it actually works, and they actually look like the pieces on the box ... . Both your way, and the way Mr.Puzzle uses. I can now continue solving it (only watched till the second step), but this really ruined any sense of accomplishment, since i did everything right, but the production process with the finish makes it impossible to solve without using a lot of force the first few times (or till you damage the finish enough to actually create the tolerances needed to do the move. Shame, would have really loved this one otherwise.

[@chiefskingdom5378]

Taking it apart is easier than putting it back together

[@a9lego667]

Thanks. Very helpful.

[@DomAZ]

You work very hard on that one. You did well. 👍

[@RossDM]

Thanks Dom. It took a long time to master this one.

[@bubber4444]

I have found that Mr. Puzzles way of centering the Cyclone pieces works best for me then I go with Ross's method after that. After doing this puzzle about 10 times the amount of force needed has gotten considerably less but is still there. The finish has worn off the tips. I'm not real happy with this puzzle and seeing how many people have the same issue I think Hanayama had to have known about this but made and shipped the puzzles anyway. Really a shame since the rest of there puzzles have been such good quality.

[@avexlee5949]

This is a difficult puzzle to separate I still can’t get the angle right to pull them a part! I feel this is harder than trinity puzzle and that’s level 6 but I just wondering do u think this is harder or radix is harder ? Radix is one of my favourite and definitely my top 10

[@RossDM]

Radix is a very nice puzzle, it's in my top 10 favourite too. I'm not sure which is harder to be honest, they're probably about the same.

[@avexlee5949]

@@RossDM thanks for your reply I always watch your videos after I solve the puzzles and some puzzles I can’t solve too! I do think your videos explanation is better and clearer than puzzle guy

[@RossDM]

@@avexlee5949 Thanks! Ivan's still very good and he does a lot more puzzles than I do.

[@randomsalt]

Good video. By the way, if you’re running low on Hanayama puzzles, there’s a whole lesser known line of sea creature themed Hanayamas designed by Akio Yamamoto. He’s the one who designed Vortex and Amour, as well as many others. Sorry to clutter your comment section. I’m not sure how to message you on here.

[@RossDM]

Thanks John. Don't worry, you'll be seeing the Marine series in the near future.

[@renejavion345]

A tip: watch movies on Flixzone. Been using it for watching all kinds of movies these days.

[@eastontyson8953]

@Rene Javion definitely, I've been using Flixzone for since november myself :D

[@柴崎祝]

日本から見てます。 全く解けずに困ってましたが、この動画のおかげで外せました。 ありがとうございました。

[@jasont.v4997]

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[@Wrackey]

By the looks of the colours of yours, you have a pre-production unit. Bought one of these but the move where you take the first 2 rings apart is impossible without force. Send in a complaint and got a replacement, and that one was even worse. If Hanayama wants to make puzzles that need to work this precise, they need to work on their tollerances. Your solution is slightly different from the one by mr puzzle, but your solution (as I found out myself with my first puzzle ) works best, but requires force. The ease with which tou take your puzzle appart is absolutely impossible with the retail versions. I can SEE that you have space that I don't have. The way Mr Puzzle shows is just completely impossible with my puzzle. I do NOT recommend these. If it worked like in this video, I would have. The idea is nice. But the retail piece is just frustrating.

[@RossDM]

Yeah, this isn't the retail version. That's interesting though, one of my fears when I first did this one was that the finish on the final version would scratch given how tight this move is. I've not seen Mr Puzzles video, I'll check it out at some point. I don't have a retail version so I can't check out the differences. Although, to get to a level of competency for this move it took me days of repeating this same move over and over and over again. One of the hardest moves I've had to learn.

[@Wrackey]

@@RossDM Thank you for your answer. It would be interesting if you could get the retail version too, to see if there are differences. But it might even be just a bad batch that I have, maybe made from a mold that has been used one too many times maybe. But I'll say this: Knowing what you have to do, but not being able to with less then a quarter of a millimeter, but feeling that the puzzle is "bending" 5:27 if you only push a little bit more (edges and notches perfectly aligned), is just frustrating.. especially, if you have played with it for days, not forcing it, only to finally give up and check a solution video, to find that that IS the proper move to do. And yes, the finish is scratching off at that point. Maybe it even is exactly the FINISH that's causing the tolerances to be just too tight on the retail version. I mean... it adds a little thickness... EVERYWHERE! Must add up :-/

[@Wrackey]

Just counted: With the move at 5:27, the thickness of the layer of finish is added together 10 times!

[@Chbbv-y9d]

I stole mine lol 10 for what something I can pull out of a flimsy box

[@tinksdarkerside3048]

Having issues getting the Cyclone pieces apart. It seems to need more force than I can put to it. I do know how hard some moves can be, this is my 14th Huzzle Puzzle. I can't help but think there may be a fault here.

[@tinksdarkerside3048]

I got there in the end, and reassembled too (thanks to your video). I still don't think these puzzles should need any force at all. My fingers are hurting now!

[@michellejennings9787]

I got it first try

[@RossDM]

Nice one!

[@jackwalter7120]

I screwed mine up and idk how to fix it lol

[@RossDM]

You've got it stuck?

[@damianbrain7875]

You are super confusing on the reassembly. I still cant get it together.

[@RossDM]

Which bit are you struggling with?

[@damianbrain7875]

@@RossDM it was the orientation. It took a bit to keep replaying the beginning of the reassembly to mimic your movements so I had the puzzle in the right "way". Got it all figured out though, appreciate the video even though you move your hands a lot 😉 lol

[@Jay-sd9ye]

I threw this puzzle away....even with the solution mine didnt work. Iv was working on it for weeks with the solution....pointless. maybe mine was defective.....yes, ill just believe it was defective....

[@telmenenkhjargal4677]

it's very very hard

[@RossDM]

I agree

[@parksonleung6601]

Narration is horrible

[@RossDM]

Thanks Parkson

[@harleyguy7856]

Your accent gets in the way of your instructions