CycloRotor | Start Outdoor Flying

[@model101t800]

Finally, somebody has waken up, been playing with Flettner and cycle rotors in rc years ago, this is the future for many things, like wind turbines

[@crunchybones2528]

wind turbines are actual trash

[@CHDean]

Wind turbines as an energy sources are asinine (donkey emoji). Airfoil technology is not.

[@quackquack462]

i really believe this is safer ,way of transport for future

[@TimothyKirkby]

This is awesome! Can't wait to see how this will develop into the future

[@boahey1978]

Finally, a clip with sound. Another reason why the flying car is only a niche product is the noise ( besides drag and efficiency). Flying cars are a substitute for helicopters, not for cars.

[@vinicy78]

Always been the case. Hovering technology is the only substitute for cars because you'll only need to be a few centimeters off the ground so you can easily go over different surfaces without damage. Flying cars is a fantasy that really isn't that innovative

[@AlexanderDominisac-sg4xi]

@@vinicy78it IS innovative.. these guys just redesigned the traditional prop to build a flying car, & even if the flying car isn’t a success, that technology will be. Fantasy or not the reach creates the tech. Moon landing is a great example.

[@paulgovan3507]

Your stale knowledge needs a major research-refresh. There are now many eVTOLs that produce very little noise - including the latest version of the Lilium(link). Like far too many confident comment-posters you fail to refresh your knowledge often enough - as is still the case with electric cars and incurable EV-haters/sceptics Lilium video latest: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4eVdIuDd86Ff68 (Paul G)

[@NickChira]

​@@paulgovan3507Ilium, the company that never managed to produce a working full-size prototype and is now bankrupt? Alrighty then

[@beneatspizza2380]

Early technology though, once the safety, tech is figured out then focus on sound, im sure that can be solved

[@Wolverine1228d]

Totally bad a$$! Keep up the great work gentlemen, can't wait to see the next step in your design evolution.

[@Dntdgxj]

This is an interesting concept for flying drones. How noisy this solution is comparing to traditional propellers?

[@pre38]

Picture your household vacuum on the highest setting with the hood off, times 4

[@viduraherath4008]

Honestly with the purpouse of use on transport that uses traditional propellers, there's no real need to make them quieter. Theres a reason that no manned aircraft has made good use of toroidal propellers or these. Also it means that its limited to being used by drones since it faces perpendicularly to the flow of air so it cannot be used on a 'forward travelling' aircraft like a plane.

[@arnaldoleon1]

Because tip rotor speed is much less, the noise is less high-pitched, which is far less intrusive. It also provides far more responsive thrust control in any direction

[@bluepandaman]

Very exciting! This is the first thing I've seen that actually looks and feels like a flying car. Awesome.

[@graffiti4christ956]

Do you live under a rock? Haha 😄 there is a far better that already has approval and actually drives.

[@paranaenselol]

​@@graffiti4christ956 he said it looks like a flying car, thos other ones are just upscaled quadcopters, this one with the diferent propeller look like wheels

[@beginnereasy]

This inspired me as well

[@teenanrelshensari4033]

how do you know how it feels?😂

[@abirhassan7066]

great. what are the benefits compared to the propeller?

[@ROVERLORDD_]

quieter and more efficient apparently

[@Phyroxin]

Less carnage

[@Ciao-c4j]

災害救助に使ったらいいと思うヘリだとローターの関係で着地出来ない場所があるそれを踏まえると多様性のあるビークル輸送、移動、救助救援機器である

[@Fold-103]

its also compact so its perfect when making flying cars.

[@viduraherath4008]

@@Fold-103 Not really, if anything making drone based 'flying cars' is a terrible design choice in terms of energy efficiency. Forward travelling aircraft like planes are much more efficient as they use lift and forward motion to keep them in the air whereas you must be using a high rate of power from quad rotors to be able to move slowly. While yes, it makes sense for compact areas where short take off and landings are needed, in any range its better to use a car or train, or take a plane

[@fedup7416]

Would be interesting to know some of the specs on this type of rotor, like how much energy is required to make it perform . In what ways might it be better than traditional methods of flight. It's great to see new ideas explored , but are they more practical in every way to what we have now?

[@beneatspizza2380]

Could the outside of gen2 be fitted with a solar panel exterior ? This way it could regenerate as it flies

[@FS.DJParty]

Kinda reminds me of the aricraft in the opening scene of Terminator. CycloTech... SkyNet Very Interesting concept and kudos for making it work!

[@DJ-Illuminate]

Could the rotors act as wheels on the ground if rubber was added or if the blade structure was 3D printed similar to the new type of wheels that don't require tubes?

[@HughMcBrideDonegalFlyer]

well done. exciting times.

[@loteknomad5032]

Fascinating. Had a question while I was watching - What emergency option would pilots of this kind of aircraft have during loss of power? Without wings in a conventional sense, I don't imagine gliding is possible. Are cyclo-rotors capable of some form of autorotation that would give them unpowered descent capabilities akin to a helicopter? If not, what would the general plan be for operators in the event that the motors failed? Thanks!

[@salnikovevgeny]

I think it will be a parachute.

[@Ownyx]

Parachute like Cirrus airplanes probably

[@deshaunjackson8188]

Death😂

[@kyleahmed6345]

Splat.

[@WorivpuqloDMogh]

Ballistic chute. Ultralight aircraft have them as well. I still think they have to add a wing surface of some sort. The advantage in this case would be the transition to forward flight will become easier.

The first flying lawnmower looks great 🎉

[@juliansjames]

Well done! Great work.

[@EEMtube]

impressive. and the sound is more pleasant than props.

[@mjproebstle]

Very nice! Very smooth flight. Cheers!

[@VictorArnaud-b9v]

Smooth landing !

[@_Hold_My_Beer_]

what happens when you throw a turkey into it?

[@a.georgessende9435]

Those rotors are already safer for people around, just looking a the shape they have. Congratulations to the team!!!

[@philsmycrevice]

What are the advantages of this type of lift? Is it just a gimmick or does it have real value?

[@Zeaiclies]

Highly efficient and strong wind resistance.

[@adamwyngaard3629]

Besides up and down can it move in other directions, how does it do this? I'm thinking by changing speeds of individual rotors? Also what happens when losing one or more rotors/blades can it auto rotate or glide to safety?

[@grantballard4362]

That is the advantage of the cyclogyro concept. It changes pitch of each blade at different times in the overall revolution to instantly vector thrust along any direction in 360 degrees.

[@KrishnaSailendraG]

All the best for your future testing. get this reality as soon as possible . I like to see with human carrier model .😊

[@stejer211]

At least they are honest about the noise - which seems to be not extremely loud. Are the going to develop a larger model for the second test pilot? LOL

[@electriccoconut]

Congratulations 😊 baby steps. To learn to run.😊

[@beginnereasy]

I think the propeller idea is cool and it looks safer than swinging a giant sword around

[@ChrisAverageYT]

Except when the engine goes out you can land that giant sword with auto rotation, while this falls like a brick.

[@effektgeraeteinfo]

And Rotors at the height of a human are obviously more dangerous than a „giant sword“ rotating way above your head

[@johnluffman7954]

Salute to those who stick with their dreams. 👍🏿

[@VS-th6dt]

Уровень шума слишком велик и навряд ли его можно снизить до приемлемых значений.

[@Rusl_U]

И скорость не показали. Может до 150км/с летать. Но даже на 200 метров не пролетел никуда. Я надеялся, что хоть шум будет меньше, но нет... К сожалению, нужна какая-то другая технология.

[@VS-th6dt]

@@Rusl_U Это тестовые полёты, показывают что и так тоже летать возможно и скорость тут явно не на первом месте, как и дальность, вероятно проверяли управляемость, вибрации и т.п.. Пока лучше воздушных винтов ни чего не придумали, естественно для машин подобного класса, и ,как мне кажется, в ближайшее время не придумают, вот если создадут что-то подобное крыльям и приводам стрекозы... но это уже из области фантастики)

[@moscowtime8876]

Наверняка большой расход энергии ... Но выглядит интересно.

[@Gene_Zoku]

Just amazing!

[@loughkb]

Energy lift and mass. How does it stack up? Energy consumption versus mass lifted. Those rotors have a lot more mass than the props used in more common drones. So how much lift are you getting for the amount of energy it takes to spin that much extra mass? I have a feeling it's more of a gimmick than practical.

[@arnaldoleon1]

You are right that these propellers are heavier but they are also much more efficient and produce more thrust than traditional ones.

[@brucegordon6969]

Looks like a really interesting possibility! I’m curious how you will design for yaw and bank control. How will mechanical failures be handled?

Cool. Moving around in 3D like in "The Fifth Element" is near.

[@epaminon6196]

"near", as in: "this century.

[@WorivpuqloDMogh]

​@@epaminon6196give it 25 years or so Back in the 1970s they said the same about computers

[@ziyademiryusufoglu7144]

efficiency??? basically, if aerodynamics is not the main scope one can fly a door with a powerful power motor. Same goes for fancy blades like this one.

[@paulgallagher2937]

I'm skeptical. Flying a light prototype is one thing. Scaling this up to the size and weight for 2-3 passengers is going to be a huge challenge. I expect they will be going for investors based on this prototype.

[@Judo-l8d]

The ability to change the direction of thrust without turning the propeller is obviously the main scope of the mission. They probably didn’t think that they needed to explain it to anyone

[@ziyademiryusufoglu7144]

@@Judo-l8d this concept also have spoilers or fins inside that rotating drum and they tilt them also . in this design the fins are parallel to the axis of rotation. i think you have get the whole idea wrong.

[@sirjake9666]

So it just goes up and down. How revolutionary

[@TheGalacticIndian]

THIS is the flying car material!🎖

[@Mil-bt5zd]

when you fold up the prop, could you turn the cyclorotor like a tire so that it can run on the road as well?

[@JULIANBASSETT]

There would be more flying applications if you made it quieter i.e. larger / slower rotating cylinders. And what about submarine applications?

[@arnaldoleon1]

The already use this in tug boats

[@partack1]

hmm. noisy. yes it can hover, but does it go forward? and how fast?

[@UnpluggedAi]

Great, you can use this for vertical take off and landing, for traveling purpose gliding is far more efficient. By this technology now you can use your rotors as tyres

[@kvarnerinfoTV]

Yea, but lots of research should be done how to pull it trough

[@Wild_Dice]

​@@kvarnerinfoTVtough or through?

[@Feintgames]

Gliding doesn't work in crowded city spaces without large airports. This technology is meant to provide solutions for crowded spaces. Imagine landing spaces in a park near your house and another at your work. You could have aerial buses where your commute is cut in half and pollution is eliminated.

[@Aanaartu]

Different kinds of emergency services around the world would be probably interested

[@ryanpauloneeyed9669]

​@@Feintgames🤣😂🤣😂 pollution eliminated?.... You do realize a large amount of electricity is made from burning fossil fuels still?

[@gkmorrison5940]

Remarkable! It’s about time somebody took aviation to the next level. (Sikorski was treated as a crackpot when he developed the helicopter. History repeats itself, right?)

[@tieegg]

Dr Ignaz Semmelweis was also considered insane for suggesting washing your hands before delivering a baby would reduce infections. This is a cornerstone in multiple industries today.

[@cyclogyro]

Unfortunately, there are few who work fruitfully in this direction. But the fact that this team is working on creating a cyclogyro even according to the old aerodynamic design of 1909 is also very cool!

[@realkstattoos]

Earned my sub cant wait to see the development

[@donhuynh5186]

Wow!!! Grape🍇!!!!! But all seriousness though, this vehicle is dope.

[@ThirteeNov]

is it more efficient compared to quadcopter propellers?

[@DJ-Illuminate]

I assume the blades could be semi hidden with screens that would allow air flow but act as a guard.

[@peterkeogh9613]

i’m wondering about the wear factor on those blade mounts - constantly rotating at such high rpm? by comparison a helicopter blade hub is under much higher load but very low rpm

[@andrewpatricknelson]

How much more power does it take. What happens if there is a problem with one or two of the rotors

[@reddotclips3971]

Working on magnus effect vehicle for senior design and cant tell you one rotor going outs gonna mean a crash and a hard one at that(hard dive to a corner and flip over). Also definitely requires more power than a standard prop plane of equivalent size bc the rotors have to provide the lift whereas a prop plane the forward motion creates a lift. What I'm curious to see here is how they achieve a somewhat efficient directional motion seeing as the rotors mostly just provide lift.

[@BrunoAmrlS]

Impressive!! Just wait until the world sees this!

[@rodtreimer699]

How do you bank a turn? Is there going to be a rudder?

[@rajeshmanukonda]

Very exciting. Proud to see Indians as core Team. All the best guys. Rock the world.

[@nicolaischtt2381]

The thrust vector of each cyclorotor can be individually controlled. You can have the vector in an angle slightly backwards so it produces lift and forward force at the same time.

[@Fluterra]

What are the drawbacks? I’m sure there are some - probably efficiency. A larger propeller without the confines of being in a cylinder must be way more efficient.

[@brainiac10]

Wow. So cool. Great work!

[@steveo7502]

What would happen if it suddenly lost power?

[@heinzditer7286]

So cars with wheels will fly in the future

[@MichaelSkinner-e9j]

For military aircraft, you would need barrels that are bigger and longer, that way they can bite/ displace more air

[@tedsmith3407]

To big and bulky bring the size down and see if it works? And what weight it will lift

[@eaglekeeper7737]

Does it it have a lot of ground turbulence like helicopters?

[@RayMikolash]

Can we see it fly out of ground effect?

[@philb7942]

Gonna need a super soundproof cabin.

[@danurrahmajati3268]

Want to know the efficiency compare regular blade design

[@mars-cs4uk]

All the best

[@jamiebeckf]

How does it do yaw control?

[@MichaelSkinner-e9j]

What do you guys use to control all the vectoring of the flaps in each barrel?

[@TheTanman412]

Like Regenerative Braking in EVs, you should be able to spin the propellers in the opposite direction while grounded to capture wind all day to store in it’s battery for later use.

[@IanDaniel-DataAnalytics]

That’s really awesome team!

[@akawilly]

It's smaller than a helicopter, so it BETTER be quieter. But if you scale it up to helicopter size will it really be quieter?

[@erfankhan4348]

How it will move towards? Not shown

[@adventureisoutthere8064]

looks like they are still ready to mow down human beings/go deer hunting with that thing, still no protective covers over the rotors.

[@kendu52]

Nice job, gentlemen!

[@WorivpuqloDMogh]

These are better and safer than propellers.

[@rayne5368]

It is noisy.. possible to make it silent? But it is good... some room for improvement. I am thinking how much energy it needs to use to fly several kilometers. How about under rain and wind? Need safety test.

[@leonardfoster2155]

How do you get forward flight?

[@aaronjennings8385]

Is this something that could be added to an electric car to improve high speed handling?

[@richardlove4287]

If you put a tyre on the rotors you could drive it on the road after you landed perhaps incorporating u the rotor adjustment mechanism for damper/suspension.

[@ManoelSantos-i7l]

...wonderful🔥🙏👏👏👏👏

[@Ref.]

This is amazing, great work! Thanks for inventing the future - just work on the efficiency of the blades, so the sound can be more quite and maybe work with different textures on the blades, to get more drag and lift in general, this could improve the blades and the efficiency

[@valevisa8429]

What happens if a rotor fails ?

[@goodcat1982]

What is the point of it? What does it do that other things can't?

[@atky_]

but what about the issue of noise in an urban environment?

[@johndemeritt3460]

I'm curious about the power plant for this machine. I'm guessing that it's electrically powered, but I'm more curious about the weight of this testbed and how much power it takes to get airborne and fly. Unfortunately, I don't work with metric measurements much, so if someone can give me information in Imperial units, I'd very much appreciate it. Thanks! This looks like it could be a very promising technology -- certainly better than the "head trimmer" designs based on more conventional RC VTOL drones.

[@ericmendez5815]

How loud is this Machine? Sounds ear breaking

[@RobGoldstein]

What is the range and the speed of this?

[@boss_playakingpin7579]

Seems louder than drones and feels like it is taking a lot of power to just hover.

[@raviustadofficial]

how it's possible ? the roater is throwing air at all sides so how ?

[@wallyrian3095]

If you lose one spool, the fall will be immediate. By reducing the wing length, noise increases. It is unlikely that the development will reach civilian use

[@unacceptableminority7101]

Actually if three of the wheels are strong enough it could technically stay up. Unlike a quadcopter.

[@chrisrodriguez5154]

If by lose one spool you mean one motor on one rotor breaks, there's an easy way to mitigate that risk. Simply link the rotors together with axels to a single motor (or tandem motors for redundancy) and a drive shaft with a transfer case like an AWD car

[@_kartik_pandey_1510]

Can you turn it?

[@suryakantasahoo5883]

Insane engendering....future plane are here...kudos🎉🎉

[@apollo8352]

These rotors have been used in vertical axes wind mills for at least 50 years... but because the paddles basically only derived force from reaction they could not get above a theoretical efficiency of around 40%, where as an aerodynamic propeller harnesses bother reaction and impulse from lift created by the blade shape, in theory up to 80% efficient. I would be interested to see efficiency comparisons between your rotor energy consumption per volume of air moved compared to a well designed propeller, after all if energy limitations did not exist many more things would be made to fly!

[@paulrowden5703]

That doesn't sound like 59db. Check out what Joby has done with its propellers.

[@richardsanders3567]

Very Noisy I wonder how that will pan out for the future

[@mcd123]

Next step, hide the rotors inside the frame and you have a futuristic flying car with no wings or visible propellers. F35 vtol style

[@michaelharlaar403]

Nice, i will share it on my Linkedin account with >30 k followers

[@spriteblood]

Euer LKW steht gerade vor unserem Haus! Hat das was zu bedeuten???? Testet ihr bei uns?

[@Adventurer105]

Well done guys!!! Impressive demo... 🦘🦘🦘

[@biohazard7261]

Extraordinary🔥🔥🔥

[@y4g3r44]

I have to admit, to me - it gives the impression of many of the fancy early airplane prototypes. Where innovators had gone at length in a certain design direction - and against conventions. I am not an expert or engineer, but I seriously doubt this propulsion design will be standard. Rotors in some sort of gyro suspension just seems more logical, safe abd with better maneuverability.

[@frederickormsby7275]

Seems like this could be mounted to a passenger plane some how for safety.

[@Zorton_]

You could go from driving on the ground to air travel with some modifications.

[@ChickenScrape]

Make the turbines convert to tires and you got a flying car?

[@jagacesuperjag]

Noise level is a bit high.

[@juan.2438]

I think that solid state batteries are the key to make this a comercial product