Cymbal Inspection Tips

[@markhayward119]

I do exactly the same procedure as you and have done so for 40 years..

[@miker5233]

I have all the Zildjian cymbal love them thank you for the video

[@trentdavis1314]

Very informative, and thanks for the shout-out. I agree with pretty much all of what you said. Personally, I'm not concerned with the resale value of cymbals since I mostly donate the one's I repair to schools and beginning drummers. I just sell some of them to keep this whole cymbal repair endeavor out of the red, which keeps the wife happy. You tend to move a lot of bronze so I find it very informative to hear your input, especially when it comes to a cymbals monetary value.

[@CodyWeathers]

I think that you have a very healthy take on re-use (including your "do no harm" mantra) and the repaired/modified cymbals you make are great. The cut-down splash chime arrays, in particular are arguably a value-added product. Furthermore, donating repaired cymbals for use in schools or by beginners is a great project, and an example of my own belief (which I mentioned but didn't emphasize) that well-repaired cymbals are often a superior option to beginner brass & B8 models because you can potentially get so much pro character at value. But I think you've probably seen in our local market there are some other people who will try to sell cymbals with pretty serious disclosed damage --repaired or not-- and price it as if "'tis but a scratch." They're not scammers; they disclose the damage and honestly believe it doesn't matter. I know a few of those drummers, and respect them as honest people and good drummers, but I disagree with them about those prices, and my experience is that when hedging your bet as a buyer re: resale, you have to consider that the market for literally damaged goods is a pessimistic one.

[@trentdavis1314]

@@CodyWeathers Well put. My main complaint when I see people selling damaged or repaired cymbals is when they claim that "it doesn't affect the sound at all". Hog-wash, I say! Of course it affects the sound. It might even improve the sound. This is the same as saying that dirty cymbals sound no different than polished cymbals. Of course they sound different. Not necessarily bad, but different.

[@trentdavis1314]

@@CodyWeathers In case anyone is interested, here is a video where I play a bunch of my modified cymbals, including a pair of cut down Wuhan chinas located above the rack toms. kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3qkmpl8adySoaM (BTW: the song is a rough recording, so when you judge, please be forgiving)

[@CodyWeathers]

@@trentdavis1314 I just added a link to that video as a pop-up in the addendum as well. You and I should do a shootout video comparing repaired cymbals to beginner and really digging into the kinds of changes that *do* occur.

[@trentdavis1314]

@@CodyWeathers Let's do it. I also have some promising news regarding cymbal repair and even drum building. We should talk.

[@DemetrioAlbidrez]

I would never buy a cymbal that has been drilled out for ribbit's !! You have destroyed the cymbal .

[@CodyWeathers]

In my experience, when properly done (as described around 5:30), it's a stable modification. Furthermore, while I've never personally drilled one to have a before/after comparison, I will say that professionally-drilled rivet cymbals with the rivets out still sound like members of their class and weight (i.e., a 2200g ride with empty rivet holes still sounds like a similar 2200g ride with no holes). So I wouldn't personally be discouraged from buying one in fear that it is damaged either structurally or sonically.