Cyper Pro : Flipper Zero Killer or Vaporware?

Today we're going to be taking a deep dive into a super interesting Kickstarter campaign for the Cyper Pro! Will it dethrone the Flipper Zero or will it disappear into obscurity? Lets take a look!
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[@lostboytnt1]

Flipper could kill this in a heartbeat. All they'd need to do is announce "flipper pro! Now with a bigger better screen and a built in esp32! “ boom, done.

[@TalkingSasquach]

Hell yeah, I'd be on the front lines hyping it up!

[@Msantor1605]

That would be called HackRF and it's been out...

[@lostboytnt1]

@@Msantor1605 it's not a flipper tho.

[@d1gg3r]

FlipperOne was started some time ago so chances are it's in there.

[@AnnFranksUrn]

@Msantor1605 hackrf focuses on rf signal only. Flipper has much more general features

[@IamJakoby]

Competition is always good. Forces everyone to stay on their A game

[@myname-mz3lo]

theres a better competitor called superior boy and it is open source .

[@PuffnPlayProductions]

Jakoby!!!!!! when we gonna get some more content on your channel?

[@IamJakoby]

@JustinSmith-uh7bb projects have gotten bigger, next video will be one of my favorites ever!

[@Christofion]

it’s big coincidence that it looks exactly like the GKD Mini handheld console!…. a BIG coincidence

[@TalkingSasquach]

Great point!

[@tiagoreis5390]

The fact that looks like an handheld for gaming (everyone uses this nowadays), this will be good for not getting much attention (unlike with flipper zero)

[@myname-mz3lo]

put your flipper in an old gameboy then

[@NovemberBlade]

The concept of this device is very much that of a Odroid Go 1st Gen and a Flipper Zero.The Odroid go had a custom ESP32 as well..sad that it never got the attention it deserved ..a really cool device and as well usable as a 8-16Bit game handheld.

[@milllkkkk]

Wouldn't see myself using this instead of a flipper, but it's also a very cool machine. Im sure you'll get one if it releases and make a video lol so I'll just wait for that.

[@TalkingSasquach]

If I can get one, I'll have one!

[@MaskedPanda.]

i remember seeing the cyperpro a while ago and they called it "cyber"pro but then changed it to "cyper"pro, anyways it wasn't that good but now they definitely did update it but im still going to stay with my og flipper. i kind of like how they did make it into a gameboy sorta form so people could think it was a game console but yeah i probably would not buy it "just" yet@@TalkingSasquach

[@Homebro4206]

5:49 its basically a raz pie with a screen. Now if i can totally put linux on it ill add it to my list. But i learned from crypto to not pre sale anything. Thank you man for you video

[@iblackfeathers]

the difference here is that there was a defcon talk just before the kickstarter campaign and part pf the team was vetted. this one, not so much.

[@Pwnagotchi-0]

Concerning the “rolling code with cars and garage doors” the new device the m1 also claims to be able to emulate/duplicate these codes however, I am skeptical as well.

[@minecraftinthehouse3060]

I love your videos they keep me updated on what is happening in the community. Thanks Sasquach!

[@Atmatan_Kabbaher]

Reasons literally no device ever will 'kill' or 'replace' the flipper: 1. The flipper is a Digivice. Literally. I could stop the list here. 2. You can hack Gameboys with it 3. Anything it can't currently do: an addon board and software will let it do; one day the flipper will even be a web browser, I promise you that. 4. The form factor is unbeatable. Not even a man's own shaft fits the hand as comfortably as the flipper does. 5. The flipper engineers are quite literally the best in the business. We were more than happy with the base model: what we got from the Kickstarter was above and beyond anyone's dreams. 6. The community is a force of nature. I can leave it at that.

[@cyberhawk99]

I'm definitely getting one. I love my Flipper Zero, but my eyes are weak and it's hard to see the little screen.

[@samuraidriver4x4]

You should send them an email that your interested in trying out one of their prototypes on the basis that you could do a 100% honest review without any strings attached.

[@TalkingSasquach]

I've sent no fewer than 3 emails to their numerous accounts!

[@incursore9]

@@TalkingSasquach Having numerous accounts is perfect for hiding.

[@Pwnagotchi-0]

5:11 the rfid and nfc cloning/writing is probably the same as the flipper but it probably has the firmware of the flipper already on it in that it most likely can read his iCLASS nfcs

[@ShaggyTheGrimReaper]

Love the new intro, I feel if flipper has more competition they will be pressured more to release something new to keep up

[@myname-mz3lo]

theres an open source better version of flipper called "superior boy"

[@shoface1798]

where can i find this, nothing comes up

[@Atmatan_Kabbaher]

​@@myname-mz3loso superior boy can clone RFID tags and subghz signals? It has gpio for interfacing with hardware devices? It has ibutton trigger? It has built in USB data features over serial? You do know that the flipper is 100% open source too, right? If you could afford it, you could make your own using their own designs: they give you the pcbs, case specs, all the software details at every level of operation. No one anywhere has even heard of this garbage handheld Linux box you speak of.

[@schofrenzy3444]

If Flipper adds in UHF and then they win !! I also think they should design something that has stronger Bluetooth

[@myname-mz3lo]

theres a new project called superior boy that has that and more

[@vilebooey308]

That shirt is amazing!!! Oh, great video too =D

[@CarlosPardo]

Smells like a big fat scam with all the dead links, GKD Mini exact look, the ghost crew with no real public figures, no github, storing payment cards, and all the case finish to lure more backers before delivering anything. Too many red flags Thanks for sharing

[@ASaltyAcc]

Gonna have to agree with that

[@Not31337]

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thought it looks like a GKD Mini

[@pratorian]

They definitely salvage those parts from a GKD mini. But it never technically says that it will store a payment card. But if you look at the reader when he’s scanning the cyper, it says ETH down at the very bottom and given the screen isn’t in Russian, or some other language I actually wonder if he’s paying with Ethereum? Because IIRC that is possible with a flipper. I know that the flipper can act as a wallet for BTC/ETH. And I know that there are card readers in different places, and other countries that do take cryptocurrencies. But it’s possible that they’re just trying to make some look like something else in order to sell more units. Which is still false advertising. but I wonder if that’s what’s happening with the payment on screen.

[@Borialis]

Can I ask why you chose the tag line, beware of falling nonces? Not sure if Nonce means the same thing where you are to where I am?

[@ronielsingh5579]

I am also curious, it's a very inappropriate thing to joke about and one of the worst insults as far I know.

[@kwaddamage8286]

lol nonces is data collected from an NFC reader to calculate keys used. Detect Reader: emulates an NFC card to collect data (nonces) used to calculate keys attempted by a reader.

[@onknight]

They've now got a website and accepted pre-orders and everything is sold out I hope they deliver what they promise I like this better than the flipper due to its size and built-in Wi-Fi

[@artistroster1]

I'm waiting for the day they send you one to review!

[@PHOENIX2001]

The card skimming option alone lost any chance of selling it on Amazon. Same as Flipper Zero

[@L0rdK0nda]

Shirt on point as always XD

[@TalkingSasquach]

Thanks! It's one of my favorites

[@jcgm666]

Crazy video! Thanks!

[@closetgaming6659]

Honestly, the only real selling points to me for the CyperPro over Flipper, at time of writing, are the in-built ESP32 and the larger color screen. Beyond those two points im more than happy with my Flipper, and tinkering with making GPIO boards.

[@d1gg3r]

Kickstarters like this fail a lot. Sometimes they succeed (and tbh even flipper looked like a scam for the longest time but it came good). Would I say they should be afraid if it fails or was a scam? Probably not - it's not an earth shattering amount of money and if it was people should re-evaluate their spending priorities possibly. I completely agree about the credit card thing though, while flipperzero can read the unencrypted data, it won't clone it and I doubt this thing could too. The typos on the security bit was amusing though!

[@kilosierra1560]

great overview on this product and the obvious text/plagiarism. interested in seeing what happens with this

[@ziggyiggi]

That emulated payment was BTC btw... Also, can be done on flipper... Seems like an exact copy PLUS WiFi🤔

[@DJWildBillSC]

I see that doesn't have the I button though

[@ricosuaveyatusabe9179]

Says the first time I saw this I was kind of skeptical, and I still am

[@nobodynoone2500]

So it's a portapack with a different ui? oh wait its even less powerful than that. what the hell is the point? You can do this with a 25$ m5stick.

[@user-tt7jg7uc9z]

There discord is down. Or atleast they closed it down

[@JoeRadiation]

symmetric GPIO - watch for destroyed addon card when plugged in reverse

[@cid3384]

I don't need the Cyper Pro, I want the standard edition of Cyper. Where do I get that?

[@cydelle3000]

Sooo put a flipper and esp32 in a case together and you have this basically. Even the gui is practically the same.

[@ShahabSheikhzadeh]

I'd want to know who the owners/creators are of this and where the money is going, but the fact it is using essentially a gameboy footprint, it's already much more usable from a quality standpoint compared to the Flipper. Same with having high quality basics/capabilities out the box. The only issue I see is they need to give you an addon for a keyboard for easier data entry.

[@mikebrandt5773]

Thats amazing about a year ago when i got my flipper i started a project just like this and have talked about it on the flipper sites now its a kickstarter.

[@incursore9]

That's why you should never tell your ideas to someone, especially on an forum/discord/site!

[@mikewilsher1005]

Good video! However, this thing is missing the 1-Wire connector/ capability. I am dubious of it's battery life, and itis way too big. The External Antenna is col however. Other than that it is a giant Flipper,... interesting and was bound to happen, it would have to offer more than what I can do with a flipper, and in a smaller for factor but with the Flippers great battery life. Until then no thanks.

[@pratorian]

The battery life on that shouldn’t be that bad. Since it’s probably just running some custom firmware slightly modified ESP 32 or something to that effect. But with a case that large you could easily fit a 4000mah battery in there which I could imagine easily getting close to 10 hours. The GKD mini has a 2500mah and claims a battery life of 6 to 7 hours. So I would assume cyper uses significantly less battery intensive hardware. I don’t feel like an additional three hours is all that far-fetched, even if they stuck with a 2500mah.

[@Christofion]

One of the main reasons why I have my flipper is due to how small it is. This seems cool but I’m not sure about the size

[@Kevin-nw9om]

I like the design, it's much more covert.

[@timmeeow]

A major selling point of this thing is you won't look like your Admiral Cheetosfingers while you are out and about with the thing.

[@severussin]

Talking "Rapper Hands" Sasquatch

[@schofrenzy3444]

Flipper looks 100 times better then this blackberry 😂😂 thing

[@Aggiiffukn48]

I prefer using personal hardware I’ve made for the Flipper Zero. Can’t really build on this new thing.

[@BeWhoYouWant2]

why not? it has gpio

[@iceman1001]

For hacking by hackers... The contactless payment doesn't sound realistic....

[@mungo75]

Ah, Sasquatch my man. 😁

[@TalkingSasquach]

Thank you! I appreciate you!

[@mungo75]

Complete noob mate, but your flipper zero walk throughs are priceless. Thanks! 👍

[@frankiecal3186]

Make it smaller!!!!

[@ridge9577]

I'm actually a backer for the cyperpro kickstarter

[@maciucovidiu7815]

If this is not a scam, I'd be very surprised.

[@TalkingSasquach]

I really don't want it to be, but i'm with ya

[@maciucovidiu7815]

@@TalkingSasquach Regardless, it only makes me more excited to see how the next Flipper Zero will look like. Whatever 'extras' we see on this nonexistent device, are very possible to become reality on a newer version of F0. Love your contributions btw, incredible how you can manage and keep up with so many projects. Blessed!

[@2LoudTech]

I’m not going to lie I love a competitive market but thing is too big for me to want to edc. The flipper is the perfect size.

[@kwaddamage8286]

the fact that they mislead about rolling codes etc is a big red flag. also one of the biggest appeals for me is the form factor of flipper. i have a hackrf if i want to lug around a more complete piece of hardware

[@Sphyxx]

Its funny to call NFC cutting edge

[@nobodynoone2500]

maybe 25 years ago when I first started cloning, sure lol.

[@wojownikmaryi1910]

Poles made flipper++, nice

[@stefanz9485]

I think it should be named “cyber bro”

[@soulife8383]

You can't skim a card like that. Unless it was using the same magswipe tech in older Samsung phones

[@MrAwsome944]

I like it, but I definitely can't carry that around all day

[@InfBlade]

I also wanna know how good it is at emulation. Imaging playing old gameboy games.

[@TalkingSasquach]

It's got an ESP32 that could play NES games!

[@InfBlade]

@@TalkingSasquach niceee

[@nobodynoone2500]

@@TalkingSasquach Not smoothly.

[@andlykwan]

wish you talked about this 6 months ago rip rip

[@TalkingSasquach]

We didn't know what we know now

[@michaelzborovan4362]

do they show a working prototype anywhere at least??? eastern Europe isnt known for its upstanding subcultures... i am eastern European and i certainly arent on board yet, id have to see much more transparency w the people involved and the product obviously. show a working prototype w the case open, maybe do a live demonstration for the backers... and adding the metal shell options is super sus, thats something youd save for after the initial release surge to pump a little more longevity into the product... not right during introduction when its just going to mire down the introduction timeline... especially when no one was asking for it...

[@victortorres1585]

a flipper copy where you can run maurader without extra hardware and something like the evilmcore i will buy it if its true and legit

[@funkymonk2254]

Oh I assumed this was fake when I first saw it. The spelling mistake in the name did not help.

[@kapone2k]

If it can write or rewrite some RFID and NFC that the flipper cannot then I am sold. but flipper looks like being limited and some other devices come up that are better for similar price range.

[@jmr]

I always thought it was a bit scammy but if it's real there are a couple cool things. The main advantages here are the bigger screen and camouflage. I did some research early on and it looks like this should be capable of emulating 8 bit games. If you can run games on it that makes it easier to hide in plain site. The built in WiFi and antenna port are a bonus but Flipper can do that with an addon board.

[@nobodynoone2500]

By that logic why not just a bluetooth device controleld by your phone? Sure it's less obv than a portapack but nowhere near as powerful. How is a bigger flipper more discreet?

[@BeWhoYouWant2]

@@nobodynoone2500 Imagine you walk into a room and you see 2 people. one of them is holding this cyper pro, the other is holding a flipper with a external pcb. Who do you imagine sticks out more?

[@jmr]

@@nobodynoone2500 Remote controlling the Flipper over Bluetooth is not a smooth experience. Last time I tried that it got Laggy and took forever to do anything. The IR capabilities, RFID, and NFC are also useless when the Flipper is in a pocket or a bag. The Flipper is also much more recognizable because of it's success. As pointed out already there's also the problem of the add on board if you want to do WiFi. In my experience even people that don't know what a Flipper is see it and wonder "what is that?" Most people know what a Gameboy is though and the Cyper Pro looks like one.

[@frankiecal3186]

No way is the battery gonna be good on this thing it's got color and lights. Flipper zero keeps the images and screen low tech but it last for a long ass time.

[@IDontModWTFz]

This is starting to feel like apple vs android all over again

[@frankiecal3186]

We want smaller more portable technology not bigger or bulkier.

[@jimmy_kirk]

Can you play Doom on it?

[@fightingfoo]

I am so glad you posted this! Thank you ❤ - I don’t want to give my money to a company who copies. I am sure (maybe) it’s a real product, but regardless it’s plagiarism.

[@IDontModWTFz]

That's just stupid, everything has competitors 😂

[@xerostyle]

as a retro emulator collector, that input cluster is gonna be uncomfortable. your "console" needs a bit more chin at the bottom.

[@S.II.K.]

Rabbit R1 mixed with this... Solid champion Dude, Sasquatch, your watches can transmit the same shit as our cards for magnetic systems. I lost my wallet one time and kept using my cards with my watch and NFC forever, why would allowing this to do the same as a smart watch coincide with a ban? The people making the laws barely understand the internet. If they don't market it as a red team hacking tool, I bet they could get away with it. But they should legit mix the Rabbit R1 with this and have a God device.

[@lovemeashitshow3884]

the only benefit i could see is itll be less known than the flipper zero, and it does look much more like a gameboy emulator

[@gshockhodinky]

😮😮😮

[@og_skullkid1387]

Can’t even preorder the thing

[@-someone-.]

I think their website is having problems loading with all the traffic your sending them 😂

[@TalkingSasquach]

LOL that would be hilarious!

[@-someone-.]

@@TalkingSasquach5:57 I think that’s Russian and says “transaction accepted” 😅 yeah this will sell fast lol

[@rusty2381]

Wait, its called "Cyper Pro"??? Crap, i accidentally ordered five Cybiko's...

[@lasagna13]

It is hard to believe in the legality of this device, since it was stated that it was possible to pay with Cyper in stores as with a regular card, which entails prohibitions

[@TalkingSasquach]

My thoughts exactly

[@lasagna13]

@@TalkingSasquach there was a discussion in flipper's offtop chat, no one believes, they still offer limited metal enclosures, although it is already a proven fact that metal almost does not conduct nfc

[@nobodynoone2500]

nah, as long as it just clones your data its legal. Sure you could clone others cards but thats already illegal. Quit spreading fudd you creeps.

[@totalkiller4]

This thing looks amazing but it needs community to build for it if they dont take to it this will just flop id love to see what CFW people can make and having a full colour LCD would be fun for cool little games on this and it looks like a GBA 10/10 would love to get one

[@TalkingSasquach]

Agreed!

[@LeQuietkid]

It looks like they're just tryna promote that it does illegal stuff in the video; Unlock vehicles, open barriers, copy credit card codes, copy RFID codes, and so on

[@RobertoNaranjoRjnaranjo]

Dolphin it's more portable and discreet

[@Alasdair-Morrison]

I'll follow your lead.........and say No Thanks! If it looks like a duck Walks like a Duck then it is............

[@qkb3128]

lol did you see the credit card under it?

[@swiftheadkick]

I wanted to do this as a hobby I got the Game boy advanced case buttons and cc1101 and a nfc chip im still going to make mine I doubt ill buy theirs but it looks cool

[@Mister.BreadBoard]

Wow i don't know how i feel about the size 😂 i never actually liked how bulky the flipper is and this new thing is much bigger now 😂 I am however interested in the game boy factor. I never played the games on the flipper, so i only used it when I needed it. But with this maybe interesting to play games on this one to get more milage out of it.

[@user-zj3zx9mi5o]

Be sweet to have a "game switch" so you could instantly switch to playing a game while your other things run in the background 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@nobodynoone2500]

Already got one for my portapack h2, which is 10 more powerful and already old af. this thing is a toy at best, already 15 years out of date.

[@Random--NPC]

that voicover is sus :I

[@InfBlade]

Yoo im excited if its real. Now lemme watch the video

[@frankiecal3186]

This thing s way too big. I like the flipper zero better. We need a flipper zero 2 but way smaller then the 0 and with more features and range. But currently the flipper is good maybe In 3 years come out with another one. Because the flipper zero is too good right now.

[@LuciferScreams]

This seems like a scam 🤣. There exists a phone called escobar. And seems like that

[@seankear5132]

I'm a backer of cyper pro and the comment section and Discord "raid" that happend recently is all smoke and mirrors. this is vaporware

[@TalkingSasquach]

It certainly seems like it. I was there for the raid, it was interesting to say the least

[@seankear5132]

@@TalkingSasquach I missed what actually happened. By the time I saw it all "evidence" of what happened was gone. CN you dig in and do a update to this video?

[@abdnatsheh4892]

​@@seankear5132is this project a scam and when it will be shipped , and why there are no actual videos about it

[@simplystatic69]

third lol

[@abdnatsheh4892]

this project is 100% scam , i ordered one and they don't answer any message or emails or when i will be shipped , so this is a biggest scam this year

[@ncc74656m]

It'll look a little more innocent to those who are primed to be suspicious of a device like the Flipper since this looks like a gaming device. So there's that.

[@nobodynoone2500]

Unless you already know what a flipper is, you wont know. and if you do, you will likely notice this thing too.

[@LP-fy8wr]

Its pretty low to straight up copy paste, and then to be lazy enough to not remove references to the Flipper. That makes me question this entire operation and its integrity.

[@romulosendoromulo]

I hope this project gets released but my optimism is growing weaker every day

[@greekhercules]

That's bs I commented first. Because I was. Damn. Alright 1st 2nd 3rd

[@TalkingSasquach]

So close!

[@j0rdyj0rdy]

Looks like a scam to steal your personal information to me

[@greekhercules]

FIRST!

[@TalkingSasquach]

You're #1 to me!

[@Jpython2-oz1zj]

Yeah this looks cheap and crappy I’m just gonna stick with flipper you might have to mod The flipper for more features but I’m ok with that this just seems like one of those companies that pops up sells a couple of they’re cheap toys then goes out of business

[@DavidDiaz-zp4hu]

'If this all falls thru' everything will be fine. Nobody who's actually from cyber security would ever admit to buying such a Gay device just because its got a pretty case & internal wifi radio, Possibly just for early content to make a video of. actual pen testers use alot better standalone gear that pushes more wattage.

[@GMSamuraiSiege]

What a sham. They big shady lol. And tht part about CC is biiig bs. They just tryna sell some these kids the dream.