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Putin's invasion of Ukraine has prompted many countries to consider joining NATO for their own protection. But historic conflict over Cyprus between Greece and Turkey, and their economic dependence on Russia make it very unlikely to join any time soon.
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[@deanstuart8012]

I'm surprised that there was no mention of the Sovereign Base Areas, which are actually British territory. They are also the only British territory where the Euro is the legal currency.

[@georgekordalis5465]

Because it does not help people understand what is going on there in any way, so there is no need to mention it

[@cx5307]

Me too. I mean the few soldiers would be far less useful for NATO than the strategic advantage of using Cyprus as a base - which they already do.

[@millevenon5853]

@@evankant277 nope.

[@micheypatsa]

Because its an SBA not a colony.

[@ley_windsor]

I thought Gibraltar also had the euro has a legal tendency

[@agapiiii]

Quick note on 4:53, the junta didn't support "EOKA" but rather created a new paramilitary organisation named "EOKA B". The first EOKA was disbanded in 1959.

[@Polo-rn8ly]

Whic was literally terrorist organiziation

[@eLeft6]

@@Polo-rn8ly It was like the cypriot IRA

[@olbiomoiros]

@@Polo-rn8ly as was the Turkish Cypriot TMT

[@berkem.]

@@olbiomoiros how?

[@cazwalt9013]

@@Polo-rn8ly turks will call anything against their imperialist wishes "terrorists"

[@PaulDaPsycho1]

You forgot to mention that the US (president at the time) and NATO, actually encouraged the Turkish invasion of 1974, in part due to concerns that the UK would've given up on its military bases in Akrotiri and Dhekelia. That would have left Cyprus more exposed to the USSR's sphere of influence. Also despite how the ethnic groups of Cyprus separated after the unofficial division, the Republic of Cyprus, "on the south", where the Greek Cypriots where displaced to, is still the same country founded in 1960 (that was supposed to represent both communities). These events left a lot of Cypriots, not only the Greek Cypriots, sceptical and sometimes resentful against NATO, across the political spectrum. A full NATO member launched a full scale invasion against a much, much weaker opponent, twice.

[@revinhatol]

Nixon?

[@frankthompson6503]

1974 British army had a large excercise on Cyprus when the Greeks paratroopers landed on the island and British forces were taken back to Britain leaving United Nations NATO soldiers behind.

[@MENSA.lady2]

There are two more British military units on the island but outside the SBA. 280 SU Det. Troodos and 33SU in Ayia Nap[a.

[@pwp8737]

The Greek word for union is "enosis" stressed on the first vowel "e" E-nosis , the final "s" is often silent but not a biggie issue. At 7:10 " during the first world war the country's president" was said in error. Cyprus didn't become independent till 1960, during WW1 it was still a British territory.

[@pwp8737]

@RanStuff British territories did not have presidents, Cyprus like other colonies had a British appointed Governor. The comment was in reference to the obvious error by the creator of the program.

[@GogiTavadze]

@PwP well, Makarios III shown on photo is actually the first CY president but he was 1 year old when WW1 has started :) He might say something by the end, probably

[@enzheli9874]

Long answer: They're neutral and don't want to complicate things with Turkey Short Answer: Turkey will just block them

[@namenotfound8747]

Turkey will pretend to care like they are doing now, so that the president of Turkey can try to get something to ease the economy back home by getting concessions from NATO.

[@sogerc1]

I'm starting to see a trend here, Turkey is the problem.

[@HedgehogZone]

We realy should get rid of turkey!

[@GustavSvard]

Cyprus can't join due to the Greek-Turkish conflict on the island. Greece and Turkey are both NATO members tho, and should anyone from outside attack Cyprus both are highly likely to intervene are they not? Can't imagine them allowing anyone new get involved on the island.

[@deSechelles]

And british millitary is there

[@dszxnavtiisx6384]

Yes the British have their military here and the island is full of Russians really so many Russians live here that I think soon Cyprus will be very interesting for Russia

[@mikem8211]

Greece has nothing to do with Cyprus whatsoever & tbh they don't care at all. They could never defend Cyprus & didn't even try in 1974

[@the8thgemmer467]

The video downplays NATO’s role in the invasion. NATO governments had agreed to the “Acheson Plan” which said Greece would overthrow the Cypriot government and conquer the island (thus becoming NATO territory) and Turkey would be given some parts. This is exactly what happened in 1974, with the NATO-controlled Greek Dictatorship supporting EOKA B’s coup, but because the Cypriot President survived the attack and because the Greek Junta fell the legitimate Cypriot government returned to the southern part. Today, Cypriots blame NATO for the invasion and the vast majority opposes it.

[@JayJay5244]

As long as Cyprus is divided, it makes no sense for them to join NATO

[@vugarbakhshalizade2826]

If the Greeks and Turks agree to a two-state solution on the island, this would pave the way for a membership in NATO for both nations. The Turks and the Greeks should have their own states on the island.

[@JayJay5244]

@@vugarbakhshalizade2826 Yeah… I don’t think that’s gonna happen… 😂 It’s like asking the Palestinians and Israelis to coexist peacefully

[@razsargsyan5860]

@@vugarbakhshalizade2826 there can't be 2 states cyprus is Greek.

[@vugarbakhshalizade2826]

@@JayJay5244, completely wrong. The Turks and the Greeks have proved that they're able to peacefully co-exist on the same island if they both have their own state. This is a de-facto situation on the island since 1974. If this secession achieved to provide peace on the island, why not to recognize it and continue with this peace? Peace is always better than the war and conflict.

[@czar6203]

@@razsargsyan5860 we'll be right back.

[@DanielGalimidi]

7:05 "In fact, during the First World War, the country's first president took part in the 1961 founding meeting of the Non-Aligned Movement". World War One happened from 1914 to 1918. The Non-Aligned Movement _was_ founded in 1961, and Cyprus _did_ take part of its founding. Did you mix up World War One with the Cold War?

[@aaronfine734]

Does anyone else think he said Byzantine weirdly?

[@e.v3832]

Yeah, and he said like after romans like byzantines themselves are not romans😅

[@henrybn14ar]

He can't pronounced a lot of English words properly either.

[@ulf5738]

Good video! Keep them coming 👌

[@vagnak3605]

What good video re trahana, most of the comments are corrections to what's being told

[@Xanous]

10:11 "During the first world war the country's first president took part in the 1961 founding meeting of the non-aligned movement" Huh?

[@andreasi8741]

Should have been " Cold war"

[@KhaalixD]

Great video!

[@atilashefik5127]

Thank you for sharing this information Cyprus is a wonderful place

[@Jay_in_Japan]

⚪🟠 I can tell you in 4 sentences: Cyprus is divided into ethnically Greek and Turkish parts who don't like each other. Greece and Turkey support their respective ethnic brothers and also don't like each other. Greece and Turkey are both in NATO. Cyprus joining would bring this issue to the forefront. Edit: read the thread before commenting "that's an oversimplification hurrdurr" Yeah no shit it's over half a century of history in 4 sentences, dafuq u expect Sherlock

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

What if we did something like the good Friday agreement?

[@sb782]

@@user-op8fg3ny3j no we need a Easter rising agreement, like before ww1, let the people vote to be part of the Greek or Turkish part of the island.

[@tsenavi7389]

turkish cypriots dont hate greek ones and vice versa

[@bengu3987]

this is complete bullshit, cyprus is divided into 2 halves, one has greek speaking Cypriots, the other is occupied by Turkey and has turkish speaking Cypriots. the 2 parts don’t dislike each other, a large majority of both communities support reunification and many many people from both communities cross to the other side every day to work, go to school, buy groceries, see their friends etc. While yes greek speaking cypriots do like Greece, the same cannot he said for turkish speaking cypriots where there’s a growing resentment towards Turkey, since they’re actively colonising north cyprus, trying to destroy the turkish cypriot identity and interfering in our democracy. Cyprus is Cypriot, not Greek, not Turkish, and peace in Cyprus will not be prevented

[@kaanaslan3003]

Unlike Greek Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots genuinely supported UN’s unification plan and voted overwhelmingly yes back in 2004. Yet Greek Cypriots were rewarded with EU membership despite of their opposition to unification. International isolation of Turkish Cypriots still continues to this day.

[@paris-panda]

FACT CORRECTION: Even after the Ottomans arrived the majority of the island still spoke greek. The concept of "Greek Cypriot" and "Turkish Cypriot" didn't exist until the British came (Divide and conquer). The main divide was along religious lines (Tax played a big role in many conversions to Islam and also the reason the Cypriot Church is so rich) but many could speak both languages and there were mixed Christian and Muslim villages. Even when the island became a republic the "Greek Cypriots" made up 80% of the population and "Turkish Cypriots" 18% (2% other). In the beginning of the video (1:40) you emphasise that the island "WAS" majority Greek speaking - At any point in time this is factually incorrect. Side note: The Cypriot language does have the characteristics that it could be considered its own language and not just a Greek dialect. The language incorporates a lot of ancient Greek, Italian, and Turkish/Arabic words. But for political reasons I don't think anyone would ever seek to try get Cypriot recognised as it's own language.

[@yafeee1072]

It's all the British and Turkish and Greece fult they made it a problem

[@oditeomnes]

Heh, reminds of Maltese language that is basically latinized Arabic. That island also had a history of culture overlaps, but they are pretty united now as one people.

[@vanmars5718]

What? I'm Cypriot and I don't think I speak a different language from the Greek mainlanders...nor that our vocabulary is such extremely different from other regions of Greece. Pontic Greek, Cretan Greek, Ionian Island Greek etc are all dialectical different as Cypriot Greek. Even more so, Cypriots participated in all straggles of the Greek people, beginning with the Greek war of Independence. So, I don't want to thinking that you made this comment out of some agenda but you misinformed people trying to pursue a narrative that Cyprus was something "different"...more fluid and more exotic than the rest of the Greek speaking areas when it was actually a very ordinary Greek speaking land with its own specific characteristics. I feel kinda insulted by your comment.

[@paris-panda]

@@vanmars5718 I know. Most people don't realise it, but technically it has the characteristics that would allow it to be classified as its own language. A good example of a language that seems almost indistinguishable from its "parent" language is Scots, which is considered its own language. Cypriot has more deviations from dialects like the Cretan's. Examples "ornitha" is an ancient Greek remnant and "kanjelo" is an Italian word. The Cypriot language has a LOT of these amalgamations that go unnoticed. I'm sorry you feel insulted by the comments but I didn't make up the technicalities of what differences are needed for a "dialect" to be considered its own language... You're not alone in your thinking and your comments are the perfect illustration why I said even though it technically could be classified as its own language, politically it will never happen.

[@vanmars5718]

@@paris-panda What is considered dialect and what a language is a very thin line that always makes linguistics disagree. More importantly coming here, in a video that has nothing to do with language but about the Turkish invasion and occupation as a reason for us not join NATO and you feel that most important thing to let people known is that somehow the rest of the world should tell Cypriots that actually aren't really speak Greek but something else is EXTREMELY provocative holding a lot of agenda. Are u serious dude? You do that to us? Like what? We are Greeks like it or not... And when you have a state being invaded and separated by a power with an imperialistic ideology, is truly out of place and insensitive to try to pursue whatever tried to pursue. Do u understand that or you still you'll try to play the fool??? Delete your comment now

[@olbiomoiros]

1:58 the map shown here has been the status quo since 1974, not prior to that. Throughout the Ottoman period and British period, the Turks of the island were scattered all across. According to British government statistics in 1960 81.14% of the island were Greek and 18.86% of the island were Turkish. For the north to become fully Turkish about 200.000 Greeks were forced to leave their homes by the Turkish army, and 6.000 Turks from the south moved to the north.

[@johnchrys5716]

6000 Turks I am pretty sure there was more than that in Larnaca alone

[@GogiTavadze]

There are still several British military bases on Cyprus as well (Akrotiri and Dhekelia), they even have their own police. And it's not like all this rather large territories surrounded by fence, you can legally enter there if you would like to (except the bases itself). So the island has 4 types of territories now - Republic of Cyprus, occupied northern territories, UN buffer zone territories, territories of British bases.

[@erielvasan]

Remember the Volt Europa episode 10 months ago? Well the Cyprus branch which is called Neo Kyma/Volt Cyprus (it also announced a candidate for the upcoming 2023 presidential elections) is advocating for NATO membership and has a very pragmatic solution to the partition problem in the form of a Federation but with the twist of the formation of a Federal District.

[@zird_]

Hello from Latvia also please for once do a video on Latvia

[@Ocelot835]

I'm not sure what exactly interesting they could say about our country. Exept of our proximity to Russia there is not much to say from geopolitical stand of point about Latvia and not the whole Baltic region.

[@vasiliyt8600]

Untile the late 1960s the turkish speaking population was less than 16%, the english speaking around 4% and the Cyprian Greek speaking population 80% (!!!). Even during the Ottoman occupation, Greeks were the majority on Cyprus.

[@walterwhite5941]

You don't give the Greeks the right to kill the Turks, you forget the bloody christmas events very quickly

[@falsevacuum4667]

Is nobody else mentioning the fact that Luxembourg is not marked as Nato at the beginning?

[@Kevvu1989]

Please do video about current political situation in Estonia!!

[@Kevvu1989]

@@Salarat Estonian politics are as interesting as any other countries politics, at least its wort a small segment in TLDR Daily

[@Kevvu1989]

@@Salarat my point was if this would of happened in big country, then there would of been video of it

[@DTChapman1]

I thought the UK still had Military bases on Cyprus.

[@well-blazeredman6187]

It does, in a number of Sovereign Base Area locations. Episkopi, Dhekalia and Akrotiri are the major ones.

[@akritasdigenis4831]

It does, I wonder if they will ever get the fk out of my country

[@vainamoinen7765]

Why do you keep excluding Luxembourg on your Nato maps?

[@spritemon98]

Why do you pronounce byzantium wrong?

[@SELoggOff]

I've always wondered what would happen if Jack had to sit on his hands while presenting.....

[@Inucroft]

TLDR: Countries with ongoing territorial disputes cannot join NATO. This included Ukraine from 2014

[@user-iz4un6tv5n]

Most Turkish Cypriot descend from Islamised Greek Cypriots , Cypriot Latins(Levantines) and Cypriot Maronites. Only a small percentage comes from Ottoman settlers and most spoke Greek for a long time before adopting Turkish, in fact some still do speak Greek Cypriot as their only native language like in the village of Louroudjina.

[@valthok]

Up next 'could the MOON join nato???'

[@jasondaskalakos5877]

What would even be the benefit of Cyprus joining NATO if there are protocols in the EU that require military intervention in times of war between an EU member

[@valdirbruxeljunior]

> watch video title > laughs uncomfortably > "NO!"

[@deathkitten7635]

For what reason? Who it’s trying to take Cyprus and what could they possibly add?

[@davidtorne6689]

How did he just pronounce Bizantines?

[@henrybn14ar]

NATO has been doing the dirty on Cyprus for decades. TLDR Forgot to mention the two holocausts of Greeks and Armenians at the end of the Ottoman Empire. 3 million died.

[@mikem8211]

We founded civilisation and there is only around 15 million of us left worldwide believe me they killed alot more than 3 million

[@melonking9752]

5th reason is Cyprus is located completly (this is important) out of continental Europe

[@fonsleduck3643]

Guys why are so many of your videos filled with visual glitches and small mistakes like at 3:04 This is so easy to spot, makes me question the quality of the actual info in the vid as well

[@AchyutChaudhary]

Just waiting for a 🇲🇹Malta video next, and we’re done with all current non-NATO 🇪🇺EU member states!

[@jjl3530]

What would happen if two nato members went to war? Example Greece v. Turkey? Would only article 5 apply to the defender?

[@omer10131]

Did you forget to mention that it was the Greeks who booted out Turkish Cypriots from parliament in 1961, and hijacked parliament completely disregarding international mechanisms?

[@shafsteryellow]

Exactly or that the turks pleaded with UK and France to stop greece military dictatorship from decimating turkish Cypriots... Which they ignored OF COURSE TURKEY HAD TO ACT

[@baliczek4568]

Ah... my two most favourite nations groups living in my two most favourite and completely distinct empires, Romans and Byzantines

[@ZnoaweOld]

Malta

[@dimitrismichail7435]

Cyprus is not officially in NATO but in reality has troops from NATO member states. At the northern half, Turkey has an active military personnel of around 40k soldiers (mainland Turks). On the southern part, Greece has around 1k soldiers (mainland Greeks). Apart from that, there are 2 British military bases in Cyprus which belong to the UK and are therefore not considered Cypriot land due to the Treaty of Establishment in 1960. There are 3.5k active British troops in a 100 sq miles area. Those bases have been and are also used for NATO operations in the Middle East. To conclude, although, the Republic of Cyprus is not officially a member of NATO, there are 3 types of personnel which belong to the alliance.

[@universalspaceexpeditioner8259]

Completely untrue. For starters the Republic of Cyprus completely funds the small Greek troops there with the intend to protect some zones too from the Turks. The Republic also provides electricity to the bases of Britain and also to the occupying's Turks because Greeks are in enclaves there. All 5 armies in the island including the UN forces and the Cypriot National Guard (the largest by far force on the island) are entirely relied on the republic. If Cyprus stopped feeding the British they would die the next day by starvation.

[@iamaloafofbread8926]

3:42 too bad, Turkey didn't originally own that land, the Ottomans (they are no more) and greece did. This is similar to CCP China (the republic of China is in Taiwan) and Taiwan and Russia (the soviet Union is gone) and Ukraine.

[@prplt]

you missed Luxembourg on the NATO map 😂

[@quanboi420]

I think they said even if they wanted to join Turkey wouldn’t allow it

[@yuvalne]

7:07 during the first world war, in 1961? surely you mean 1916?

[@abovetheruins88]

1. EOKA laid arms and disbanded in 1959. The colonels junta took power in 1967. 2. The WW1 has nothing to do with the founding meeting of the non - aligned that happened almost 40 years later. 3. In 1963 the vast majority of the Turkish Cypriots revolted against the Cypriot state and set up their own militias and semi - independent enclaves. 4. Russians started coming in the island of Cyprus after the collapse of the USSR, and not in 1960. But the same applies to Ukrainians as well. 5. Cyprus was forced to move into a service economy having lost 70% of its agricultural lands by the Turkish army and it's richest and most developed city as well. I am afraid your knowledge about Cyprus is quite limited.

[@PalleRasmussen]

No the NATO Charter is very clear about countries with unresolved border issues. Which is why Ukraine could not join in the first place and the Russian "excuse" for aggression a blatant lie- like everything else they express; Maskirowka and Vranyo.

[@20quid]

Then how come the UK could join at the height of the troubles?

[@JohnWellingtonWells]

@@20quid I might be wrong, but weren't the troubles mainly a domestic issue? As far as I'm aware The Irish Republic does not outwardly claim Northern Ireland and respects the British ownership of the region. Even if they would accept a potential diplomatic reunification.

[@PalleRasmussen]

@@JohnWellingtonWells exactly. Lots of countris in the EU has internal secession movements.

[@zaxarispetixos8728]

I remember in the start of the year americans saying that ukraine is a free country so ut can join if they like and zelensky saying he wants guns to retake crimea

[@PalleRasmussen]

@@zaxarispetixos8728 you remember wrong. They can *apply* if they want. And they can- like Sweden and Finland, but there is no guarantees that they will be accepted- like Sweden and Finland who has an Erdogan-problem. As for retaking Crimea; is it unreasonable to want the land back that was taken by force and in contravention of international law?

[@etemkonus9115]

Which one is the Southern Greek part or the Northern Cyprus Turkish Republic becoming a NATO member?

[@piyasabulteni4438]

Cyprus's EU membership is a breach of international law since the founding agreement of the state prohibits Cyprus from joining any international organization of which both Türkiye and Greece are not members.

[@rustix3]

But how could Cyprus join EU, if it had disputed territories?

[@kw2142]

joining EU is different to joining NATO

[@skinshaveskills]

Because it has no disputed territories. It’s a single country that’s being occupied by Turkey. Every single country on the planet recognizes this except from the occupiers themselves.

[@universalspaceexpeditioner8259]

It has no disputed territories. Disputed is a whole different situation. Cyprus was invaded.

[@rustix3]

@@skinshaveskills So if it's single EU country occupied by Turkey, anyone from the occupied territory can have EU passport(Cyprus passport) anytime?

[@skinshaveskills]

@@rustix3 Yes, all Turkish Cypriots have the right to get the Cypriot passport. They just have to go to the capital and get it issued.

[@mfvieira89]

In 1974 Portugal became a democracy, in 197x Spain became a democracy, and many other things happened. Why the 1970s? Why so many historical events?

[@ferrjuan]

7:07 wasn’t aware the First World War occurred during 1961 lol

[@SalmonLee98]

Until this year I just know Cyprus and Ireland are not NATO member

[@andreic3225]

Malta?

[@koenkeep]

Luxembourg is part of NATO. Correct your map or the people of Luxembourg will be very offended.

[@kyprospatridamou]

The non-aligned movement is not an issue today. The foreign policy of the island does not depend on the choices of the country's first president. There are many scholars and analysts within Greece and Cyprus raising the question of NATO membership. Basically, only the communist party of Cyprus (AKEL) opposes this idea. As to the connections with Russia, look at the sanctions that Cyprus follows against Russia in the European Union. The ties with Russia cannot block NATO membership, Turkish veto can.

[@outerspace7391]

Still, nato is unpopular among Cypriots. Same reason Serbia won't ever join that organization

[@iamaloafofbread8926]

4:23 oh so this is another mess up the British empire did, ok.

[@milos_radovanovic]

Can I sugest a similar topics: Serbia and Ukarine War or Serbia and Nato ?

[@lemonynora]

tldr for this video: no, they won’t be joining nato anytime soon

[@outerspace7391]

Well yes, realistically Cyprus will just not join nato

[@constantinos6532]

Never we will not join nato with Turkey and our territory

[@user-wq8ls2cf2z]

And why not??? It's never too late.....

[@someguy3766]

Another factor might be the UK's sovereign base areas. Parts of Cyprus are actually still British territory, with a significant UK military presence. As long as British forces are on Cyprus the island is pretty safe, as any attack on the country would likely result in a response from the UK, a vastly more powerful country.

[@johnchrys5716]

Rubbish, they wouldn't bat an eyelid, they resisted even letting refugees flee the fighting through the bases saying it could result in them being fired upon and I'm British/Cypriot

[@Pyrrhic537]

It didn't in 1974...

[@someguy3766]

@@Pyrrhic537 Well yeah, but Turkey is also a NATO member so that makes things a little more... unorthodox. Wouldn't be a good look if NATO troops were shooting at each other. Also I think there was some agreement that if Turkish Cypriots were being persecuted then the UK acknowledged Turkey's right to intervene to protect them, and Cyprus had a lot of instability going on at the time.

[@universalspaceexpeditioner8259]

@@someguy3766 There was no right to protect anyone only to guarantee the sovereignty of the nation of Cyprus something that Greece, UK and Turkey all betrayed.

[@chrisklitou7573]

5:35 Greece do not control southern Cyprus So I don't know why you've put that flag Cyprus is a independent country so use their flag

[@realtimestatic]

Because most people speak Greece there

[@chrisklitou7573]

@@realtimestatic so by your logic they should put the Germany flag on Austria UK flag on the USA Italy flag on San Marino Spain flag on all Spanish speaking countries China flag on Taiwan and Singapore Portugal flag on Brazil Saudi Arabia flag on all Arabic speaking countries France flag on Monaco and Belgium

[@JohnWellingtonWells]

​@@chrisklitou7573 To be fair, it's incredibly common to represent a language using the flag where it originated from.

[@murkelastateliborac200]

This is a British propaganda channel with socialist tendencies and it literally shows every video most people won’t notice until they personally see the hypocrisy

[@realpolitics527]

@@chrisklitou7573 the policy is south cyprus is decided in athens. If you want people to believe that there is no greek influence and sway in cyprus govt, then you are lying.

[@skyblader]

That's not unlikely it's impossible.

[@xylixiian]

His pronunciation of Byzantine makes me want to end it all

[@Emanon...]

Turkey. Saved you 10 minutes...

[@nickandriot]

Generally fine video… but dude it’s unbelievable that whenever you showed a map of the split island you showed the following: a ‘TRNC’ flag for the occupied parts (UN designated as Turkish occupied parts), and a flag of ‘Greece’ for the internationally recognized ‘Rep. of Cyprus’ which has its own flag. In other words, Showing flag for the unrecognized invasion ridden north but not showing the flag of the recognized republic controlled areas. Unbelievable these Brits!!!

[@georgekordalis5465]

I dont think he did it intensionally

[@dimitrispvoice133]

@@georgekordalis5465 Knowing this channel, I think he did...OR their animator is really confused on how things work 😂

[@georgekordalis5465]

@@dimitrispvoice133 i have seen the editor make quite a few harmless mistakes in the past and that why i dont think he meant to do it but you may be right idk

[@dimitrispvoice133]

@@georgekordalis5465 I caught him (animator) doing mistakes as well... but coincidentally...all of his mistakes were about Cyprus, hmm... 🤔🤔

[@dimitrispvoice133]

@Madaleine Well it seems there is a problem if after all these comments you still call us "Greeks". I'm a greek speaking Cypriot, the nation has been independent for 60 years now, get over it. And please, enough with the Turkish propaganda, there was no genocide against Turks, you need to know the difference between that and a "massacre". But ofcourse, I don't expect Turks to know the difference after denying the historically proven genocides they did to Armenians, Pontic Greeks and Assyrians. Who's next in your list, the Syrians or the Kurds?

[@yasintamer1547]

fyi for the further videos it is called Türkiye rather than Turkey Cheers

[@theemperorofmankind7706]

Simply put, we dont really need to or care to join

[@frankthompson6503]

Could Cyprus join NATO. Britain and USA have a staging platform in Cyprus.

[@fralencemelograno]

7:08 “during the FIRST world war”?

[@Ellipsis115]

5:37 When people say the UN does nothing

[@davidty2006]

They built a wall faster than trump could.

[@spugelo359]

Before I watch this video or read comments... is it Turkey again? Or do they just not want to join. I bet it's one of those 2.

[@wewuzirlyriliansandshiiit6123]

turkey occupies almost half of Cyprus illegally

[@CARL_093]

its a good topic i had notice it way back why is he not in nato was its bec of its past or other they will need to double or triple there defense fund if they decided to join nato and fix whatever is the issue but if i were them neutrality is the best solution

[@Mr.Nichan]

7:07 Ah yes. in 1961, during the First World War. It's the year that you got right, by the way. September 1 to June 9 in Belgrade, Yugoslavia.

[@TILR]

0:23 isn't Luxembourg a NATO member? it's not colored in

[@dimitrispvoice133]

As a Cypriot, I found the video a decent quick analysis on the matter. Cudos for that. BUT, man... I 'm not sure if you did it in purpose or your animator was just confused, but at 5:38 and other timestamps, you presented the splitted Cyprus with TRNC's flag, that no one recognizes, ...and most importantly, Greece's flag at the bottom.... Cyprus is NOT Greece's territory! We are independent since 1960 and we have our own flag that you used plenty of times. The appropriate thing is to use that flag to show the south despite that internationally the whole island is acknowledged as the Republic of Cyprus. After 1960, Greece's and Turkey's flags aren't the ones to officially represent Cyprus, Cyprus's flag is - and let's hope one day we will be able to see the flag waving in the north as well.

[@dimitrispvoice133]

@@emiryalcn8922 It seems you Turks are still 50 years back lol. Greece doesn't care and hasn't intervened in Cyprus' politics for decades. We've been doing our own thing, they are doing theirs and we respect each other's sovereignty, something Turkey FAILS to do so repeatedly with every neighboring nation. The north of the island is de facto illegally occupied by Turkey, it became its puppet state, or like you call it, its ''backyard'', it acts only through Turkey and does whatever Turkey says. It's disgraceful and a shame.

[@robbielamont]

Im confused, is Cypriot it’s own nationality and Turkish vs Greek Cypriot is just the language barrier?

[@dimitrispvoice133]

@@robbielamont It's one nationality yes but with two ethnicities. The language is not the problem, especially since before the Turkish Invasion in 1974 the turkish Cypriots also talked the Cypriot dialect (it's greek with a lot of ancient words, different syntax and some turkish words). The only problem is that Turkey illegally occupies the north part of the country since 1974 and imported a lot of Turkish settlers there to influence the island and change its demographics. What is been asked for decades is for Turkey to stop the illegal occupation of the north and remove its troops so Cyprus can be united again. Greece and Turkey should not have a say in Cyprus' politics.

[@Downtimelegion]

Well now do not over say ... the greek element and Greece is the largest in the entire "free part" of the island. The language, customs and even the national anthem of Cyprus are Greek. If it was not the island under the occupation of UK it would be entirely a "Greek island". The fact that an independence was "given" for the eyes of the world does not mean that the historical and social relationship that Cyprus has with Greece should be forgotten.

[@dimitrispvoice133]

@@Downtimelegion Let's not mix things up. I only made a comment on the fact that Greece's flag shouldn't be used alone to represent the free parts of Cyprus but also Cyprus' flag or just Cyprus' flag since it has been independent since 1960. There are many things that us Cypriots try to do in order to adapt to this new circumstances we live in. Back in the 50s, YES, Cyprus should be part of Greece since it has been a greek speaking island for thousands of years and it was(and still is) mainly consisted by Greeks. Or even as an independent nation, Cyprus should be considered a Greek oriented country with a Turkish minority who could live and cooperate together with the greek Cypriots... that ofcourse if the British, Turkey and the then Greece's junta didn't screw things up. Today though, we need to adapt to the new reality in order to achieve peace. Turkey invaded in 1974 and the whole wide world codemns or should codemn it for it. They've been trying to change the country's demographics by importing more Turks to the island and they influence the north more and more each year, every day. They should be codemned for that as well... but what can Cyprus do? Throw all the Turks to the sea, act violently because Turkey is also violent?...We''ll only get more wars and bloodshed. What is needed to do is finally try putting things behind and being united for once, for peace, and if Turkey is still ignoring these calls, it will only make itself look bad internationally. Cyprus has always been a greek populated island, it's common sense by now. But it's also independent and is seeking for peace and a better future for all its citizens. Also, we kinda got used to being independent...our language might be greek but it uses a different dialect and far more ancient greek words than modern day Greece does that sometimes Greeks really don't understand us. So it makes sense to be on our own without ofcourse forgetting our greek ancestry and roots, that will never happen. Let's agree on one thing though, the Turkish troops need to like...LEAVE..., no idea what the f they want in our nation, Turkey is still trying to get the whole of Cyprus but they won't suceed.

[@IKEMENOsakaman]

Cyprus is divided into Greek and Turkish parts, and have been fighting each other for the last 500 years. NATO also don't want to get involved there.

[@theo3357]

500 years? fuck no, just make a google search.

[@bolsa3136]

Lol always the turkish delusional nationalist. Theres always some each video ..

[@Tamamo-no-Bae]

@@theo3357 Probably added an extra 0. 50 sounds about right.

[@theo3357]

@@Tamamo-no-Bae cypriot greeks and turks have been fighting, like, just around max 80-90 years.

[@kaanaslan3003]

Problem is not even Turkey’s possible veto of their NATO bid. Cyprus is not recognised by Turkey as the state that was founded in 1960. On the other hand, Turkey’s path to EU membership inevitably blocked by Greek Cypriots even though democracy can be restored in Turkey at some point.

[@urax35]

There is democracy in Turkey

[@halilibrahimkzlhan2061]

@@urax35 no, there hasn't been a democracy, since 2014 or since 2012 .

[@pixytorres7117]

@@urax35 If you think your country has democracy while attacking Syria gaining 100km and killing Kurds then you're a delusional puppet of the state. No wonder Turkey has the most uneducated people in Europe.

[@mikem8211]

​@@urax35😂😂😂

[@loremipsum3147]

@@mikem8211 well technically, with the participation rate of 87% and all vote counts are open to all political parties and signed by representetives, yes Türkiye is very democratic indeed and probably one of the most democratic countries in the world. On the other hand, people (may) choose to vote for wrong people like current government. This doesn't make it less democratic.

[@paulluka2029]

Cyprus has too much natural gas reserves to be shared or ceded to either Greece or turkey this is the only reason why it's trapped

[@dreamingflurry2729]

Stop shilling for a plattform nobody wants! Seriously, Nebula may be the greatest thing since sliced bread, but the fact that you use a monetization scheme that is outdated (especially since Nebula is for documentaries only it seems) makes it unpopular IMHO! Make it like KZbin (funded by advertising before the video) and you might get a lot more people over there!

[@JorgeGarcia-lw7vc]

Key Answer: TURKEY. (Yes, in English, that is the only name for the country, TURKEY.)

[@northernhardcore.7899]

Doesn’t Cyprus already have a status within NATO, guaranteeing it protection BECAUSE Greece & Turkey both claim it & have joint ownership, in addition to the U.K. Sovereign Bases which train for & support Brit mil’ on deployments & exercises both in NATO & outside NATO?

[@the8thgemmer467]

No, neither Greece nor Turkey claim it. Turkey militarily occupies the Northern third but considers it an independent Republic. The entire island legally belongs to the Republic of Cyprus, which de fact controls only the Southern part and since 1964 has been run by Greek Cypriots (but it is a legitimate government independent from Greece). The Republic of Cyprus refuses to join NATO because of popular resentment against it due to the invasion, although currently there is one major candidate for President who supports NATO membership.

[@PGproductionsHD]

The majority (~80%) has always been Greek in the past 3000 years. You misspoke when you said this was not the case when the Ottomans came over.

[@globaccs_erolleventlevent3825]

So a little bit objectiveness will help you relaibility. Best Regards

[@Gugner]

Why not?😊😊😊🙂👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼💪🏻

[@xenofonkarykis8417]

Cyrpus can't join NATO because 1/3 of it s occupied by Turkey and countries with territorial disputes can't join. The reason it s occupied by Turkey is because the British squatters wanted to at least have a base there and true to style they did in Cyprus exactly the same thing they did everywhere else they went or left. Divide and conquer. As long as there's a problem they can play "arbitor", they declared for themselves a base as sovereign territory and the "natives" can squabble all they like. As for NATO it doesn't need Cyrpus to join because the UK already has a base there and the UK is in NATO and that's all the island has to offer them anyway. Things always change so who knows, maybe one day France or the US or God forbid Russia or China will come to "protect" the Pakistani or Indian minorities in Britain which are of similar size to the Turkish minority in Cyprus. 🤣

[@TheMrMerudin]

that would be better than turkey

[@Mustafa1998]

7:08 this sentence doesn't makes sense

[@sheeeenogoji7603]

Short answer: NATO but without the A and T

[@ElectroMotoko]

I wish Turkey wasn't part of NATO, just too many problems.

[@ezekiel579]

A Pro-Russian Turkey expelled from NATO would certainly create bigger problems.

[@ElectroMotoko]

@@hazarozdemir8833 I live in Canada, but I'm English. Life here is not great at the moment as I have to go to the food bank and ration my food supply's. Life is getting harder for the west and the world, so people are less generous. Its also understandable that Turks don't trust or like Russia for historical reasons. As for the Kurdish people, they have been regionally distinct for a long time and could do with a referendum, but this is not the UK with that kind of democracy.

[@ezekiel579]

​@@hazarozdemir8833 NATO dışında kalmış, Rusya yanlısı bir Türkiye daha büyük sorun yaratır dedim. Bundan Türkiye'nin NATO'dan çıkmasını istediğimi nasıl çıkardın anlamadım.

[@user-gv8po9vd7h]

Could you guys do a video on any potential countries from North American joining NATO? Thanks in advanced

[@kw2142]

Cyprus is inside the EU. USA isn't.

[@user-gv8po9vd7h]

@@kw2142 this has nothing to do with the EU. Not every NATO country is in the EU visa versa

[@esajpsasipes2822]

@@user-gv8po9vd7h you mean mexico

[@user-gv8po9vd7h]

@@esajpsasipes2822 or any of the Caribbean nations.

[@esajpsasipes2822]

@@user-gv8po9vd7h aren't those more central america?

[@damianmichaelides179]

Declassified CIA documents show maps that Turkey wanted to partion Northern Cyprus as early as the 1940's while still a British colony. What you have to understand moderates from both sides wanted to keep out of politics, Turkish right wingers wanted to be close politically to Ankera and do their bidding for partion and right wings Greek Cypriots wanted to be politically close to Greece to secure it from further occupation and Turkish partition. These two factions from communities were EOKA and TNT. If you read the London Zurich agreement the vice president had to be a Turkish Cypriot and had veto power on all policies and a fixed number of Turkish Cypriots seats in parliament. All of which is undemocratic. If you add in that right wing Turkish Cypriots nationalist were actively working with Ankera in perusing a partion you have inter communal violence.

[@shafsteryellow]

Source

[@ArcanaIX]

I haven't watched this video yet, but I'm guessing Northern Cyprus and Turkey has something to do with it.

[@_Anatolian_]

northern cyprus is kinda Turkey’s little son

[@cockneyse]

4 reasons, blimey not 3

[@Rjsjrjsjrjsj]

🥱 So what you're saying is there's a place in Europe that is historically disputed among the European nations? Wild. Who would have guessed? Maybe that has something to do with the current war. 🤔 Given the current climate and existential issues with energy, food and global supply chains the next few yrs are going to be a BLAST! Thank you Europe!

[@tobiwan001]

I always have to chuckle when English-speakers refer to Guerillas as Gorillas.

[@incursus1401]

i often feel like many ppl see nato more as a vauge idealistic ideological thing and not what it is: a concrete military organization for defensive maneuvers for illegal international actors. For some nations, being part of this is simply not in their interest or even more so: for some bigger nations, adding high risk nations is not worth it

[@bangscutter]

People often confuse EU and NATO. While there are significant overlap countries that belong to both, they are two different entities. EU is an economic and political union (with more internal focus of cooperation) while NATO is a military union (with focus on external threat). People think that member states within NATO behave like the EU, but they are not.

[@cesurbasoglu4144]

To add to your comment NATO's primary concern is Russia. It is an organization found during the cold war to oppose the Soviets. As such not all countries have a geopolitical opposition or military concerns regarding Russia. In the case of Cyprus, its geopolitical interests are in Eastern Medeteranian Sea. So it doesn't make that much sense to join an organization whose area of interest do not align with theirs.

[@burningphoenix6679]

No. It is a defensive military alliance meant to defend against the enemies of NATO should they attack.

[@cesurbasoglu4144]

@@burningphoenix6679 Preety much the only enemy of NATO is Russia. Plus, most nations who joined NATO did so out of fear of Russian agression.