CZ 457 Varmint Quick ammo review part 2

[@buffalosoutdoors]

I appreciate all the work you put into these.

[@coreyd1474]

thank you for watching!

[@redorrick427]

I too, just bought a cz457 varmint. three shots had it zero'd. and shot 5/16 and 3/8 group at 50 yds. with Eley force and SK rifle match.i am pleased as punch.it's eazy with a CZ.

[@coreyd1474]

thats good with eley force

[@invictus-23peacekeeper72]

Eley Force is too fast for this barrel. did you read the manual ???

[@coreyd1474]

@@invictus-23peacekeeper72 DId YoU REEd ThE MANUal

[@jeffreymurphy4229]

I took mine out first time after pulling my Nikon 223 off my ar and a quick mount job. Blew the center out of all my targets at 25 then moved to 50 and same result, with blue box federal, cci minimags and some Aguila that a friend gave me. Couldn’t be more excited about a 22. My Cz is right on the money.

[@coreyd1474]

Glad you got a good one!

[@shaneewell7404]

Watched your video. I'm confused on your target and groups. Next to each target it shows its 1.5". Yet your groups are inside the outer ring and your have them measured larger than the 1.5" . I'm confused?

[@coreyd1474]

yea i'm confused too

[@eltonarceneaux4439]

Just bought a 457 ultra lux. Sighted in the scope last week and did some first time target shooting. I was very impressed. At 25 yds it will stack bullets on top of each other. At 50 yds they are no more than 3/4 inch apart. At 100 yards I was hitting a 2" plate every shot. I think I got a good one.

[@coreyd1474]

The Lux looks good! What type of ammo are you using. Nice stuff those groups will tighten up for you for sure

[@eltonarceneaux4439]

@@coreyd1474 Did you receive my reply?

[@coreyd1474]

@@eltonarceneaux4439 no don't think so

[@eltonarceneaux4439]

I was just sighting in the scope with cheap ammo. I think it was Winchester, bulk ammo. 550 rounds for about $50 bucks. Yes, there were bad rounds, light charges and some miss fires. But when they worked they did well. Will try again this week with CCI.

[@coreyd1474]

@@eltonarceneaux4439 CCI standard velocity is about as good as it gets for the price you'll have to let me know how it does

[@richardhayber5298]

Was the barrel touching the barrel channel?

[@coreyd1474]

it wasn't.

[@TheGoatMumbler]

I've worked and worked with my 457 Varmint and just can't get it to be consistent from one group to the next. It'll shoot pretty good for a group or two and then goes off the rails and I've tested WAY too many types of ammo searching for an answer. All shooting off a level concrete bench too in excellent conditions with great glass. Different torque settings on the action screws, you name it. It's just not as good as the 455's and damn sure isn't as good as my Tikka T1x. It's a beautiful rifle and I begged it to perform, but in the end mine simply won't shoot. I think I got a lemon because CZ makes really good stuff.

[@coreyd1474]

thats a shame to hear. they really are a nice looking rifle. Its really had to beat the tikka, i love mine.

[@Pew_pewchronicles]

Have you ever consider playing with the Torque setting on the action screws

[@coreyd1474]

not being rude but you're about the 19282304032403204308 person who's said that and i did, it made no difference on this particular rifle.

[@phillb9]

My new CZ457 Varmint didn't like any ammo either. I tried four different brands to no avail. All my targets are at 100 yards. My best croups were about 2 inches. I sent it back to have CZ look at it. They replaced the barrel. I have yet to see if it is any better. My Savage 93r17 was very good at sub MOA, until I shot the barrel out.

[@coreyd1474]

don't let the cz fanbois see you said your cz didn't shoot either they'll yell at you on the intenet for being a terrible shooter LOL. you'll have to let me know if its any better when you get it back. approximately how many rounds did it take to shoot out that 17 barrel? had to have been a ton.

[@phillb9]

@@coreyd1474 I tested it today. I had three 5 shot groups at one inch. My two 3 shot groups were ⅜ inch. I am using Hornady 17gr BT ammo. It probably shoots better than that because I can't shoot. LOL I shot at least 4000 rounds through the savage. The last three years I've gone through a thousand a year. squirrel-cong

[@phillb9]

The targets were at 100 yards. I install the Yo Dave trigger spring to bring the trigger pull down to one pound.

[@coreyd1474]

@@phillb9 honestly its a lot harder than most folks think to shoot well without a lead sled. even tho everyone on the internet that comments on my videos can shoot 1/8 inch groups at 100 with their 59 year old marlin with 3x scope LOL

[@cristiancanalesm.6946]

What is the consistent group size to make it a accurate rifle of 480 dollar and not to lemon?..., should do it just like a Vudoo, Sako, Bergara, Anschutz?.

[@coreyd1474]

Well according to the wizards on the internet theirs shoots 1/9" groups at 200 yards with a 3x scope

[@mhoovzoo5283]

What is the name of your picatiny rail mounted over the 11 mm dovetail? It's very nice one.

[@coreyd1474]

i can't remember what they call it but its made by area 419

[@liedebunker1253]

I think the big groups might have something to do with the parallax of the scope -- you might not get rid of the parallax. My Ruger 10/22 could shoot better with some of the ammo.

[@coreyd1474]

thanks for watching!

[@stanleyklimek4100]

I'll post some comparisons with the two my next trip to the range. You'll see what I mean.

[@coreyd1474]

Yea let me know!

[@mlone7]

I did a couple things on mine. Action screws 20 inch lbs. Installed bolt shims .002 to tighten up head space. Installed Yo Dave spring and lowered trigger pull to 1.5 lbs. Do you still have the gun or did you sell it?

[@coreyd1474]

sold it. tried a few different action screw torques but it just made it worse. ok for a squirrel gun i guess

[@Johnmarkoffline]

I just got a 457 American Last week I was shooting Under 1 MOA @50yrds with Federal White Box ammo right after 10 shots sighting in scope. For me my gun is great.

[@coreyd1474]

Nice! Glad it's worked out so far

[@philbiagi721]

That under 1/2" right

[@prevost8686]

I’ve owned the 452 & 453 rifles in 22LR & .17HMR. I purchased one that absolutely would not shoot anything accurately with anything. My experience with CZ is that if it won’t shoot Wolf MT consistantly well then you have a problem. After eliminating all the variables on my end I sent it back to Cz. They shot it and came to the same conclusion that I did and they sent me a new rifle to replace it. They don’t try to determine what the issue is that causes inaccuracy. Once they verify it they just replace it if it’s within the warranty period. I love CZ products but I am not a blind fanboy. CZ produces a turd from time to time. It happens. Fanboys seem to have their personal masculinity tied to a brand name and are personally insulted if their brand is criticized. Brands like CZ & Glock have some tenaciously loyal customers that cannot handle criticism of their pet.

[@coreyd1474]

yea i agree. people get super butt hurt when someone shows bad results. as i stated i buy all of my own guns/ammo so i want them to perform. you'd be surprised how mad people get about 22 accuracy. oh and i forgot "my 38 year old marlin shoots 1/10 inch groups at 200 yards" guys are my favorite.

[@Plainsimple67]

@@coreyd1474 HAS TO BE THE MICROGROOVE BORE OF THAT MARLIN, NEVER HEARD THAT LEVEL OF ACCURACY OUT OF THEM AT THAT DISTANCE!!🤯

[@coreyd1474]

@@Plainsimple67 yea something not right thats for sure.

[@Plainsimple67]

@@coreyd1474 ITS A GOOD THING, THAT'S FOR SURE!!! SUPER ACCURATE. 😉👉

[@Jeff-mv4yy]

Try moving your front scope ring further from the turret . I just swapped scopes and installed like you are in the vid . The rifle was terrible . Researched it and found mounting scope too close to turret, ocular or objective can cause issues . I tried it with much improvement

[@coreyd1474]

i have MANY MANY scopes mounted like that plus seen tons of top shooters have similar set ups. thats not the problem.

[@jaxrcexplorer]

I like your reviews, but have some reservations about them, and some of the comments. First, the 457 Varmint has the 20.5 inch barrel, correct? Also you seem to compare this model a lot with the Ruger Precision with 18 inch barrel... so I'm wondering how either would compare to the CZ 457 American with the 24.8 inch barrel. Also too, I wonder about the bullet velocity and either barrels "rate of twist" or "Rifling" but I see they are both the same @ 1:16. And the 457 American is the same also. I have a Ruger 10/22 with a Green Mountain bull barrel, chambered for the CCI Stinger ( slightly longer case ) and it shoots pretty much along the lines of what either of these do in your reviews. I would like to know how/why you seem to measure the results differently in this review than in the Ruger Precision Ammo part 1 and 2... i.e. I am looking at Eley Target and seeing only one of the groups over 2.0 yet you indicate AVG 3.47 ... is that a "projection" of the results at 100 yards? If so, why not shoot it at 100 yard? Anyway... it's all good stuff... I am still trying to decide to bu a CZ 457 American or Ruger Precision, very close in price on Davidson's. I'm a Ruger fan but have seen reviews on the CZ, that compare it to the Anschütz .22 LR and .22 Magnum, at a much, much higher price point. Also a tip... check out gunbot.net to see a listing for comparison of ammo available and different ways to select ( i.e. price per round or by brand ) with links to the seller/distributor.

[@jaxrcexplorer]

@Phix I finally decided... I purchased the Ruger Precision Rimfire in .22 WMR. I am very pleased. I put my Vortex 6-24x50 FFP scope on it... and I'm getting about a 1 inch group at 200 yards... not a typo... at 200 yards! It shoots the 30 grain "Varmint" ( Hornady/CCI ) better... but does amazing with the very affordable Federal 40 grain FMJ truncated too! Great trigger pull, down to 2.25 lbs ( I believe ) ... I paid plenty for new triggers on my 10/22 and Gunsite Scout to achieve what comes "stock" on the new Precision rifle... With 15 round magazine it was about $385 ( US ) at Davidson's. ( Scope and mount cost more! )

[@coreyd1474]

i love your comments but i have lots of reservations about them

[@jaxrcexplorer]

@@coreyd1474 Ok... 🤔

[@zenrider16701]

Hope you got it fixed.

[@coreyd1474]

yea fixed it alright, sold it. that did the trick lol

[@pyremidproductions7934]

how much are you asking for the gun and the mount?

[@coreyd1474]

I already sold it.

[@pingkythoj4779]

My friend, try cci stinger.. i have a 457 cz and it takes the cci stinger best for me. Give it a shot and see if it makes the different.

[@coreyd1474]

thanks for watching.

[@SAVAGE308SNIPER]

Did you properly mount your scope and align the reticle and do everything the correct way?

[@coreyd1474]

yep. exactly the same way i do all my other rifles.

[@SAVAGE308SNIPER]

@@coreyd1474Good. Nice. I won't talk trash now. I'll put my tail between my legs and walk away.

[@coreyd1474]

@@SAVAGE308SNIPER haha yea. you know i never expected the response i got. i figured everyone would tell me to go kick rocks but i'd say 3-4/5 people say their 457 shoots the same way. pretty surprising.

[@Sven126]

You need to tell us the distance you shot at. Those groups look like 100yds.

[@coreyd1474]

thanks for watching

[@Sven126]

@@coreyd1474 So......?

[@coreyd1474]

@@Sven126 so if you had bothered to scroll down about two mouse rolls you would see the description. have a great day!

[@stevec442]

Does CZ still put a test fire target in the box with the gun? If so, what'd that look like? Last 455 I bought had a target with a 3 or 5 shot group. I built a 10/22 that out shot my 455 by a huge margin, so I ditched the CZ. Almost wanted a 457 until I saw this review.

[@coreyd1474]

No there was no test target in this one. Probably because they were ashamed LOL I bought a Tikka t1x mtr and it's amazing. Look at those

[@CrazyEvo5]

Yeah man I got a test fire target in the box with my 457 varmint in 22WMR. It had a .5 MOA 5 shot group using CCI 40 grain @ 50 yards. Hornady, CCI and Winchester ammo all shoot great out of my rifle. After reading all the comments on here Ill chalk my win up as good luck. @Corey D man did you ever shoot that CZ suppressed before you got rid of it?

[@coreyd1474]

@@CrazyEvo5 no it doesn't have a threaded barrel.

[@Asghaad]

@@coreyd1474 or the retailer you got it from had it as return when pissed off customer returned the lemon to them and they just resold it to you ... as far as i know CZ puts test target they do with every firearm into the package, if its not there then something fishy is going on.

[@markchester7584]

Can’t even begin to explain that. I got exactly the same rifle and even with a muppet like me holding it, it’ll return 1/4” at 25 yds and a gnats over 1/2” at 50 using Blazer. It takes rabbits out every time I pull the trigger (off tripod) and my p.b. was paced out at 104m I think that one needs to go back to CZ.

[@coreyd1474]

yea i shoot with plenty of folks who have 457 and they shoot very well, just got a lemon. it happens

[@BSchorr]

What is the mount. I like it. Fits great

[@coreyd1474]

Its an area 419 rail with vortex pro series rings

[@issodhossohdossi4659]

I am not sure how you are calculating MOA. If those targets are 1.5 inches in diameter then at 50 yards the target's diameter is 3 MOA (MOA at 50 yards being 1/2 inch). All of your groups appear to be much smaller than the MOA you calculated. Am I missing something?

[@coreyd1474]

thanks for watching!

[@thecrusaders2516]

I tried about 25 different types out of my 457. I must admit I was hoping for better also but my results weren't quite so bad. I imagine you sold it by now.

[@coreyd1474]

oh you better not say that out loud. the CZ fan bois will be all over you. hitting you with a barrage of comments about action torque screw settings and how you just suck as a shooter LOL

[@theshootindutchman]

I bought a 457 but I got mine in .22 mag. I hope that I can avoid some of the pitfalls, or put in another way I hope it raises my chances of getting "one of the good ones". My standard . 22 is a Savage Mark II Target that I customized. I haven't shot either yet but I'm a huge Savage fan and I'm praying that both really come through for me. I'm hoping that the Savage will like a number of the off shelf . 22 ammo, and the same for the .22 mag. 🙏

[@coreyd1474]

savage has always made a good 22 i'm sure you won't be disappointed.

[@TubeDobs]

You should take a look at the crown with a bore scope

[@coreyd1474]

Sold if and bought a Tikka t1x mtr. It's a thousand times better

[@alexspencer8904]

I have a CZ457 Provarmint. I put aluminum pillars, hardened action screws, Yodave trigger spring, area 419 30 moa rail, DIP large bolt knob, opened the barrel channel and it shoot .25" groups @ 50yds with Wolf Match Extra, .25-.325" with SK Rifle Match, and .325-.5" with SK Standard Plus. But mine only has a 16.5" varmint and the shorter, fatty barrels are pretty rigid and usually not as sensitive to different ammunition as a longer barrel. 25in/lbs is pretty low for CZ most people get theirs to shoot the best at 35-45in/lbs but I wouldn't exceed 50in/lbs as the screws will strip. Mine likes being at 40-45in/lbs

[@coreyd1474]

have a hard time believing action screw torque settings make that much of a difference. glad yours shoots well after all that work though.

[@alexspencer8904]

@@coreyd1474 you're right it wont change the group a lot but I've seen about 0.25"' difference. I was talking to my local rifle builder that mods CZ's at a rimfire match and I was asking him what he sees with accuracy stock vs. his mod (he threads the reciever and barrel for more reliable headspacing and uses premium barrel blanks) and he said his went from shooting 0.5"-1" stock to shooting .25"-.5" after his work. So maybe I got lucky with mine but I have seen other Provarmints shoot very well. I will say the boyd Provarmint stock is pretty flexible and will soon be replaced with a KRG Bravo when it comes out.

[@coreyd1474]

@@alexspencer8904 i think its just a little disappointing that you have to do so much work to get it to shoot acceptable. But it is what it is, still fun to get out and shoot and mess with settings. hard to complain.

[@bobbythompson3544]

I know from personal experience, Eley should be laser beam out of CZ, I use 455 with YoDave trigger kit and Eley Sport, Eley Club too, off the bipod really impressive groups under half inch at 50 opens out to .600 at100yards very quiet with moderator, Foxes hate this little gun! Solely for hunting!

[@coreyd1474]

yea it wasn't good. i sold it.

[@eltonarceneaux4439]

Shot my 457 LUX this morning. Set up a KYL target, 5,4,3,2,,,,&1 inch targets at 50 yards. I have a bipod but I 'am controling the butt of the rifle. Using Winchester M22 bulk ammo 1000 rounds for about $50 bucks. I'am hitting the 1" target 8 out of 10 times. Than took 5 shots at 100 yards and did a 2" group . I have found the more I shoot the better it gets. I did not see these results when I first fired the rifle. I would guess I have 400 rounds through the gun now.

[@coreyd1474]

several people have said their LUX shoots well!

[@TXH1138]

That's a shame. I have three CZ and they all shoot better than me. Did you contact CZ?

[@coreyd1474]

no i didn't wan't to mess with having to send it back and them do nothing. ended up just selling it.

[@bigt33welder]

Most CZ rifles I’ve own have to be bedded in the rear and about an inch from receiver under the barrel

[@coreyd1474]

shouldn't have to do that to a rifle that costs as much as cz's do IMO.

[@lanceforbes8099]

1/2" groups at 50 yds = 1 MOA 1" groups at 50 yds = 2 MOA 1.5" groups at 50 yds = 3 MOA 2" groups at 50 yds = 4 MOA If those targets are 1.5", you need to check your math.

[@coreyd1474]

thanks for watching!

[@edwardkawecki8101]

I just watched this video for the first time and had to question those measurements myself. Doesn't mater what rifle, it just doesn't add up to what's showing on the target in my opinion also. Doesn't matter about the gun either because he sold it years ago. Personally, I would have sent it back while still in warranty if I felt something wasn't right before deciding to sell it.

[@jasonmao1162]

Cory, I have a question. Didn't you say the red dot on the target was 1/2" in Dia.? So for example on the SK red box target, the bottom target you had labeled 1.84", is that correct? I guess, it seemed odd to me when the target is labeled as 1.5" target and you shot well within the target but stating it is 1.84". Am I reading the target incorrectly?

[@coreyd1474]

yes you are correct the red dot in the center was slightly larger than half an inch. i read it somewhere on their website but when i actually measured it later after all this shooting it was more.

[@fredvancek4387]

CZ rifles are not anymore what they have been in 60's. (Mod. 452) To get one which is shooting good is dependent on "luck of the draw". I did get two CZ 455 and bullet dispersion on factory target is 31 mm and 27mm on varmint at 50 meters using RWS ammo. At the range I did find one CZ 457 having dispersion on factory target 19 mm. Buying match ammo will not solve problem with accuracy . Maybe changing barrel may do it . Maybe ??? My Ruger 10/22 shoot better than that and using CCI BLAZER ammo.

[@coreyd1474]

a lot of people have said theirs shoots like mine does. i didn't really feel like checking 1000 different action screw torque settings and messing any more with it. you get the gist its not going to perform well without work. i sold it. bout a tikka t1x mtr and have a christensen arms ranger on order.

[@fredvancek4387]

@@coreyd1474 Buying different rifle , it was the right thing to do. Time and money spent on CZ to make it shoot right... match trigger assy. bedding , barrel replacement and testing and using thousand rounds of ammo... even buying high price Anschutz is a better deal.

[@cmccoy76]

I just picked up an identical used one at a gun shop with that exact base and bolt handle. Hope I didn't yours!

[@coreyd1474]

yea hopefully it shoots better for sure.

[@ag4allgood]

Sorry to see your results here Corey. I just bought a CZ 457 Varmint Precision Chassis this week. In the process of getting it setup with a Magpul Bipod / Area 419 30 MOA Picatinny converter / topped with a Vortex 4-12 x 40 Diamondback scope but my barrel is only 16 inches long. Wanted to go Ruger Precision Rimfire but after seeing some quality issues on those I passed & went CZ 457. 1st bolt action rifle of ANY kind. So your review has me wondering what I'm in for.

[@coreyd1474]

you should be ok. a LOT of the cz's i see perform just fine. just like anything else you get a bad one every now and then.

[@fromsoftnewbie4423]

I just traded some 10/22's for a new Cz 457 pro varmint and I've gotta say it seems to like to shoot any ammunition so long as it says SK on the box! a few exceptions like gold medal match and even a box of eley action shot very tight groups. funny how the same rifle can be such a picky little piggy. love your videos, you def inspired me to get a CZ!

[@coreyd1474]

22 is definitely a strange animal for sure. easy to go down the rabbit hole chasing accuracy.

[@dylanfiorica2260]

I believe your MOA average for the Eley Target ammo is off. Your average is stated as 3.47 MOA, while I’m getting an average of 1.738 using the group size numbers you provided and dividing by 5 since you have 5 groups.

[@coreyd1474]

yea i'm sure you're right i was probably drunk when i said that LOL

[@ashleynicely1046]

CZ 457 is a better rile than this. Could be incorrect parallax adjustment or barreo-stock contact.Get a high power scope, have a friend who is a good shot shoot it with you.

[@coreyd1474]

Na I've done just about everything there is to do. It's just not accurate. I think that if I have no problem getting 1/4 out of my other rifles the problem might not be me.

[@markr831]

Could be angular tilt of the moon too. Come on dude watch the video.

[@Mrtjw]

So did you get it shooting any better? I’ve got a 457 pro varmint 16” and a 455 varmint... both are shooting .3’ish at 50 with the SK rifle match. The other one worth trying is the SK pistol special (bright green box).

[@coreyd1474]

i doubt your gun is shooting single hole groups every time you take it out.

[@Mrtjw]

​@@coreyd1474 Not what I'm saying. Specifically under the right conditions, it can reasonably consistently print around .3-.4" groups at 50 yards (which is decent, but not mind blowing by any means). Why Im asking is, I don't know if it's a difference between the barrel lengths, action torque settings, variations in manufacturing or just the batch of the ammo... So I was interested to hear how you were getting on with it.

[@coreyd1474]

@@Mrtjw i've had a lot of people talk about how much of a difference the torque setting on the action screws in their cz. that wasn't the case for me i tried several different pound settings and it made zero difference for me. worth a try for you though.

[@lucabrasi5070]

Tim Williamson , my 457 Varmint shoots about the same as yours, if I do my part and use good ammo. Corey got a bad one, unfortunately.

[@coreyd1474]

@@lucabrasi5070 I will in no means claim I'm a great shooter but I go through the same list when I shoot this gun of any of my other guns. Which I buy, and the results speak for themselves. Sure if I was a champion shooter the groups would be smaller but they would be smaller with all of my guns not just this one

[@howtube9604]

Judging by your video, I would say something is wrong with scope. the groups aren't really that bad, but should be better, and there is always the possibilities that you just had a real bad shooing day, That happens.

[@coreyd1474]

i had it it several more times and it doesn't shoot any better.

[@juliusjames5577]

Looks like you got your hands on s lemon. I really thought sk rifle match or Lapua center-x would make you happy. I really enjoy my 457s but just goes to show there like a box of chocolates.

[@coreyd1474]

yep and every company has lemons. not sure why people get so upset about it lol. i shoot with many people who have 457s that shoot great. just the way she goes.

[@Brownvillarats]

Well that sux. My 455 had results like that with Winchester. But the remaining 27 brands shot, on average, .5 MOA or less. RWS Sub, SK Std, Eley HV, and Fed GS were the top ammo coming in at around .275 @ 50yrds. Wish you would've had better experience.

[@coreyd1474]

Yea I just got one that didn't perform because cz as a whole is much better for sure. Glad you're seeing results from yours. It is nice the 457 will take the 455 barrel thought

[@danieldunham9978]

I have the 457 pro varmint with 16 inch threaded heavy barrel and it is putting that gun to shame with aguilla rifle match competion ammo so far its putting all my other 22lr guns to shame.

[@pwn3426]

careful bro or he is gonna call u a filthy cz fan boy, rofl.

[@coreyd1474]

you filthy cz fan boy, rofl

[@mikado4157]

I've had the same issues with my first MTR, and my gunsmith give me a replacement and send it back to CZ, the new one is much better!

[@coreyd1474]

i may have to do the same if i don't sell it soon.

[@texasrimfirenut]

I appreciate a good honest review where you see the whole target. I had two 455 varmints and they shot like your 457. I want to try again with the 457 but it seems through everything I have looked at, its a 50-50 chance on getting one to shoot MOA. There is a reason they won't offer the same guarantee they do on the MTR. The new Anschutz 1761 is getting some good reviews and like you said the Begara and even the Christensen Arms 22 coming out look to be a lot more promising. More bucks for sure but if accuracy is what you want, buy this at your own risk. Anyways, good work on the video. I've watched others of yours. Appreciate you effort,

[@coreyd1474]

Thank you for watching! i actually have a christensen arms ranger on order. since march actually so no clue when they're going to start shipping.

[@texasrimfirenut]

I have one on order as well. I was told should be around the end of July or first part of August. I paid a deposit to get in line. Picking up my Tikka T1x this evening. Your review there was most helpful as well.

[@shanepeacock5592]

Czs seem to like rws the best...I shoot rws special match or rws target and mine is a hammer..

[@coreyd1474]

yea BUT how much does a box of 50 rws speical match cost? 20 dollars? defeats the purpose of having a 450 dollar "match" 22

[@shanepeacock5592]

@coreyd1474 special match is 14 dollars and rws match is 9

[@shanepeacock5592]

And cz,s are more than 450

[@coreyd1474]

well this model shouldn't be lol@@shanepeacock5592

[@shanepeacock5592]

@coreyd1474 the cz,457 match mtrsare around 800 to 900 ..but worth the money..they will keep up with guns much more expensive..

[@nh2az1]

I've always been told, when all ammo shoots like crap then maybe look at the shooter

[@coreyd1474]

normally i would agree. but how can i get sub moa accuracy out of the rest of my guns but not this one?

[@nh2az194]

Didn't see that you had said that. In any case let someone else try it and if the same happens then it's a email to CZ and see if they will do anything for you.

[@tomaaso89]

My 457 varmint with meopta zd 4x16rd shoot one hole at 50m.

[@coreyd1474]

no it doesnt

[@davidpyper82]

That's shit . Mine both shoot 1/2 inch groups . Is your crown damaged . Was your bore clean

[@coreyd1474]

nothing is wrong with it i think its just a lemon

[@davidpyper82]

@@coreyd1474 did you sell it ? Yeah definitely something up with it bud

[@coreyd1474]

@@davidpyper82 yea i sold it. i mean its a good quality gun you can tell its built nice but for what i do i am looking for something that shoots better. for plinking or hunting or whatever this is just fine.

[@davidpyper82]

@@coreyd1474 I'd have got rid to love my groups

[@ashleylamb6167]

You may need to check headspace you may need to shim the bolt just a thought :)

[@coreyd1474]

have to let whoever owns it now know lol

[@pwn3426]

CZ fan boy checking in and damn proud of it, R O F L!

[@coreyd1474]

hey nothing wrong with it LOL thanks for watching

[@stanleyklimek4100]

I called CZ USA about the accuracy issues with my 457 and they basically shrugged it off and suggested I try better ammo. I'm going to call them again.

[@coreyd1474]

yea i wasn't about to go through sending it back. i just sold it. bought a tikka t1x and that was a good decision.

[@GTMGunTotinMinnesotan]

What is your cleaning regiment?

[@coreyd1474]

Normally just when I start to notice a reduction in accuracy

[@gspgsp100]

So you're cleaning every time you shoot this rifle?!? Seeing how there hasn't been any accuracy

[@benjaminkgooden9329]

I know this is a 4 year old video but wanted to chime in. A few guys in our town (very small) started putting rimfire shoots. I thought it would be fun, which it is but I got to watch that I don't go down a rabbit hole with it lol. I have a habit of spiraling out of control with projects. Anyways, I watched a bunch of reviews on 22 rimfires. I didn't have a lot of money to spend so I settled on a Savage Mark II. 275 bucks out the door. 16inch bull barrel. It will shoot sub moa groups all day with SK match and SK Long Range. But sub moa isn't quite good enough. It may do better with some 35 dollar a box ammo but I'm not paying that much. So I came across a Ruger Precision. If I didn't get such a good deal and was easy to get my money back out of it I would of been extremely ticked. It isn't half the gun that the Savage is. Not no where near as accurate and had a lot of issues with failure to feed and eject. So I sold it and ordered the cheapest CZ457 I could find. It's an American suppressor ready with black nylon stock model for $530 It isn't pretty but man it can shoot. It took about 3 boxes of shells for it to start breaking in. By the 4th box it was shooting one hole groups. One group was incredibly small at .285 inches. That's 5 shots at 50 yards. I also shot two flys that were walking around on the target. Best part is that it was the cheaper SK Standard plus ammo. The only issue I've had is failure to fully eject. I gave the bolt a good cleaning and lubricating but haven't had the chance to take it back out to try it. Hopefully that issue will go away. It's also the pencil thin threaded barrel. I figured it would heat up quick and start shooting all over the place but it never really got hot. So I'm hoping I can be a little more competitive since the barrel will drop me down in the standard class from the outlaw class. I can't justify several thousand dollar rifles to enter a competition where you might win 10 bucks a round.

[@coreyd1474]

always love the savages. they always shoot well

[@rmm2424]

MOA is MOA 1/60 of a degree.

[@Asghaad]

if the calculator he uses assumes the range is 100 he is correct to double the result

[@rmm2424]

@@Asghaad no MOA is MOA no matter the distance. Its an angle it goes forever.

[@coreyd1474]

moa is moa. genius

[@gamebred5x]

May just need to keep running more rds thru it.

[@coreyd1474]

yea possibly.

[@patrickjoy9551]

Yea that rifle either has a bad crown or a burr in the rifling. I've got more than one 452's and my son has a 455 and they all shoot bug holes at 50. Now a couple of them are picky when it comes to ammo but they will shoot with the right stuff. The rest of them will shoot with anything.

[@coreyd1474]

yea i shoot with a few poeple who have 457s and they shoot very well. just got a lemon, it happens.

[@brendan4ever]

25 ft/lb or 25 in/lb ?

[@coreyd1474]

inch pounds

[@stanleyklimek4100]

I picked up a 457 American 22 Lr. in February and it shoots the same as yours. Like crap. My 455 on the other hand shoots amazing. And that's with CCI standard. Like night and day.

[@coreyd1474]

Hey good thing is they take 455 barrels right?

[@cacinaz8802]

I am three years late, and maybe you don't even have the rifle anymore. I have found that when I get a new rifle it is usually filthy in the bore. You said you ran a bore snake through it 5 times. I would thoroughly clean the barrel. I use JB bore paste with a good CLP or gun oil. This has the effect of lapping the barrel, and with these less expensive rifles the factory does not hand lap them. Looks like you are correctly seasoning the barrel before shooting groups for each ammo. Perhaps shoot indoors at 25 yards with a rest to start. All CZ 457s come with the same action and trigger, so adjust your trigger as low as you can get it because trigger pull weight will affect your accuracy. Perhaps put in a YoDave trigger spring. Maybe take it to a gunsmith and measure headspace. Perhaps shim the barrel to tighten up the chamber a bit. Play around with action screw torque. Lastly, maybe swap out the barrel for an MTR barrel or aftermarket match barrel.

[@coreyd1474]

perhaps i will.

[@markeisenhower6422]

Maybe you shoud bore brush, spray wd 40 to loosen lead flakes inside the bore, ive done that before, and then rolled piece of tissue in the brush, make sure its tight inside the barrel and scrub it ang large lead flakes came out later.

[@coreyd1474]

never used wd40 on a barrel before maybe i'll give that a shot.

[@nicepojos8766]

Thanks for the videos. Having watched quite a few CZ 457 Varmint + ammo videos on KZbin, I can only conclude that your test results (and with that, your rifle) are an exception to the rule and most probably not indicative of the precision & accuracy of the CZ 457 as a whole.

[@coreyd1474]

sorry i missed your comment i apologize. i wouldn't go that far. i have seen many with rifles that persom the same as this BUT i have seen way more that are true to CZ rimfire quality. loved everythng about this except for the accurace. the action is one of if not the best on the market for this price range.

[@jimbuono2404]

Any distribution of factory made rifles will follow a bell shaped curve for accuracy. Actually, I probably should say barrel as the rest of the rifle doesn't count for much except the trigger. A few will be great, a few will be awful and the majority will be somewhere in between. When you pay more, like for an Annie, you are getting quality control that weeds out the worst of them. With a $500 rifle you roll the dice.

[@coreyd1474]

yep agreed

[@rocksandoil2241]

Swap scopes and true the scope, and if that doesn't work, I'd send it back to the factory. It must do better than that.

[@coreyd1474]

yea i tried the whole action screw torque thing because apparently it works for everyone else. i sold it and bought a tikka t1x

[@daveleno2246]

Bad barrel, chamber or rifling. I'd contact CZ as this is not typical.

[@coreyd1474]

i went ahead and sold it.

[@1982seamus]

I would send the rilfe back, I've a cz 452 ultra lux and I'm shooting 1/4 inch groups 5 shots with cci subs

[@coreyd1474]

yea i totally believe every time you go out with your old cz that your consistently shoot groups the diameter of the bullet.

[@1982seamus]

Dont really care if u believe me or not to be honest and it's not a old rilfe bought it brand new 18 months ago and yes in Ireland there is still new ones, hard to find and I didn't say every time, done a trigger job and few other things to make it shoot better

[@coreyd1474]

@@1982seamus yea no i get it but i get about 10 people a week saying my rifle shoots 1/4 inch blah blah blah. what trigger you put in it?

[@1982seamus]

It was a rimfire magic spring, I was going to buy a 457 sane as yours until I watched your video so I bought a tikka instead 22lr lol and love the videos lad, been watching u from the start almost

[@coreyd1474]

@@1982seamus man i gotta say, more people say theirs shot the same as mine than said theirs performed well. i was pretty surprised to be honest. i have a christensen arms ranger 22 on order i'm super anxious to get in. they guarantee sub moa accuracy but i'm skeptical of that.

[@eduardochacon4347]

I also own a CZ 457 and it is funny to see that my cheap Savage B22 shots better with cci standard. I have to make more tests thanks for the video it is great you are presenting the truth of these rifles.

[@coreyd1474]

hey man don't sleep on the b22 that thing can be a shooter. if they get the magazine issue fixed where it takes huge chunks out of the bullet when its fed they it would be even better.

[@eduardochacon4347]

​@@coreyd1474 does your Cz 457 has treading for a suppressor my Cz it has and I notice after testing that my accuracy declines when I left the protector cap on my barrel usually it comes lose after a few shoots and my grouping goes quite random.

[@coreyd1474]

@@eduardochacon4347 no the barrel is not threaded

[@fredgenetti6475]

My 2 457 love sk red at 100yd never mind 50. 10 shot groups 1 ragged hole with 3 flyers about 1/2 in out

[@coreyd1474]

yea skrm is my go to.

[@stanleyklimek4100]

The 457 sprays the ammo all over the paper. Can't get any type of group at all. Very disappointed. And I'm shooting through a Nikon 4-12×40 rimfire scope.

[@coreyd1474]

Dude I hate to say it but I've had way more people say theirs shoots the same as mine also more than ones that shoots well what's the deal?

[@jimhamilton3544]

Stanley Klimek I have that Nikon scope 4X12X40 but you need at least a 25 power scope for bench shooting Send it back to CZ They will replace it

[@coreyd1474]

@@jimhamilton3544 I. Sold it and bought a Tikka t1x mtr. It's a million times better

[@735Secure]

I'm absolutely shocked! I don't have a CZ457 but have 2 CZ452's, several Anschutz of all kind, all the way from several thousand dollar ones to the sporting hunting models (All model 54's) and a couple of 10/22's, with heavy aftermarket barrels and other component. All my Anschutz shoot great but for the best bang for the buck my money is on the CZ. The only thing I could say is check your action screws and the last thing is maybe somehow you got a lemon! I don't think CZ screw things up, but its a possibility.

[@coreyd1474]

yea i know cz makes great stuff, getting a lemon happens from time to time.

[@invictus-23peacekeeper72]

Eley Target is the second cheapest ammo they make. it's still about $65 for 500 today, in 2022. the best for the CZ 457, I have two Varmint Trainers, is the Eley Tenex and the Eley Match. I consistently shoot sub .35 at 50 yards. I shoot matches and at 50 yards, I hit the 1/4" circle 97% of the time with Match and Tenex. remember also that not all lots are the same. also, you should NEVER put any ammo above 1120fps in a match, or Benz barrel like the higher end CZs. if you think Target is expensive, you'll faint at the Tenex price, $195 for a brick of 500, plus tax, shipping and the $25 fee the FFL dealer charges. to train, I use Eley Club, $80 for a brick

[@coreyd1474]

ok

[@bruce5648]

I am glad to see that somebody else is having trouble with their CZ. I got 3 CZ 455 that shoot just as bad! I've always heard nothing but good things about them but I will never buy another. I will stick with my Anschutz rifles or my Winchester 52c

[@coreyd1474]

Yep as I said in the video I paid my own money for all of it and obviously want it to shoot and don't want to piss off the cz crowd but results speak for themselves. Actually just got a Tikka t1x mtr mated with a krg all put together and weather permitting gonna get it out for the first time tomorrow

[@52oggie]

your calculator must be off also Eley is not 3.47 but 1.73 I shoot the cz 457 mtr that get .59 at a 100 yds with Eley club

[@coreyd1474]

thanks for watching

[@ashleynicely1046]

Something is wrong, something is loose, parallex is off. Something. I usually think CZ is overrated. But at 50 yards, CZ, Savage, Tikka, rifles in that range should all shoot the majority of groups at 50 yds. in the .5" range.

[@coreyd1474]

according to the geniuses on here the problem is me, but i can average .3-.4s in my other rifles. yea i mean i messed with the action screw torque settings and that made no difference. sold it and got a t1x, its miles better.

[@billcasanova9492]

I have almost that exact set-up but without the Area 419 bolt knob and my scope is a Nikon Black FX 1000 4-16x50. Same rings and same Area 419 pic rail and unfortunately the SAME results. I shot CCI Green Tag (only because my old Ruger 10/22 with an aftermarket bull barrel loves it) Federal Gold Medal, Geco Match 22 LR and Wolf Extra Match. 1st time out was off bags and a rest, yesterday was with a bipod and then off the heavy rest. No difference, it sucked and I'm pretty pissed. I'm going to pull it apart and check the torque of the screws but otherwise I WILL dump it. At 50 yards my chrome lined AR's will shoot better that this rifle.

[@billcasanova9492]

So I took the rifle apart, stock, scope, mounts and all. I used a Wheeler Torque driver and reassembled it to spec. It seems the stock was not where it should have been. Went to the range and what a difference. It was very windy but I did get 5 shots of Wolf Match Extra into one ragged hole at 50 yards. I am a happy man with a changed rifle.

[@coreyd1474]

@@billcasanova9492 thats good it made a difference for you but made no difference for me. i sold it quite some time ago. got a tikka t1x mtr. its one thousand times better

[@stanleyklimek4100]

I still can't believe the inaccuracy with a 24.8" barrel that's on the 457.

[@zacmcgowan3079]

Stanley Klimek I’m looking to buy one in 17 hmr you think it would be a better option

[@coreyd1474]

thanks for watching

[@bearkawiboy6246]

Good video and info.. A honest review is always appreciated by myself so don’t sweat no bandwagon fan boys. Tell it like it is.. We all gotta hold companies accountable good or bad, no matter how much we like them!! I like my 452 and it shoots much better with bulk ammo then what you got there, so I think you got a bad one man and I’d have to send that back to cz. Lol.

[@coreyd1474]

Thank you for the feedback. I hate watching videos of people who cherry pick ammo so their rifle shoots it good. Like you said you have to be honest about it especially when you're paying for it all yourself. Not sure where they went wrong but 452 and 455 pretty much all shoot well. My the majority of comments have been people saying theirs shoots equally as bad as this. I didn't really wanna put a ton of work in to it or mess around with sending it back to cz so I sold it and bought a Tikka t1x mtr. That was a solid decision the Tikka is the best 22 I've shot

[@bearkawiboy6246]

Corey D Can’t blame you on that, sometimes it’s better to cute your loses instead of wasting your time.. Yeah I think CZ makes fantastic firearms period but looks like they are too in a hurry getting these 457 out the door before they were ready... Man I’m Glad you put your 2 cents in on the tikka. I was just looking up some videos on it.. So far I can’t find a bad review or opinion of it yet. Looks like it may be my next decision... Not sure if you got any vids on it yet but if you don’t feel free to let us know how it’s shooting for ya

[@coreyd1474]

@@bearkawiboy6246 totally agree cut my losses on that one. A buddy of mine has a 455 trainer and it shoots well. I did two videos similar to this on the Tikka if you want to watch should be on my channel. The action and trigger on the Tikka is flat out awesome. Glad I found one in stock.

[@accuracyfreaks442]

Try this last thing. I got a 455 and shot about the same. Loosen off barrel screws and evenly torque screws to 25" lbs. I know thats a tad bit out of spec but it truly turned mine into a tac driver. Should you have to do this after spending your hard earned money on a new rifle? No you shouldn't, but lets face it we live in a throw away nation were the cost high or low vary rarely means anything anymore. Simply put, we no longer get what we pay for. Good luck to you sir.

[@coreyd1474]

i tried a few different torque setting on the action screws because thats what everyone said. nothing worked. i just have a hard time believing a few lbs of torque will make that much of a difference. rather than mess around sending it back to cz i just sold it.

[@accuracyfreaks442]

I was actually referring to the set screws that hold the barrel in the receiver. They effect the harmonics of the barrel. Mine come from factory set one at 60"lbs and other 40"lbs. This uneven torque made my rifle shoot consistently 3 in one hole and 2 out of my groups. I to played with action screw torque on mine and experienced very little improvement. Anyway i wish luck in the future and thanks for the informative video

[@coreyd1474]

@@accuracyfreaks442 ah gotcha. yea that makes sense. mine were torqued so tight i had to heat them up to loosen them and broke 2 bits. just all around bad luck with this thing lol

[@lucabrasi5070]

Corey D , I’ve heard a lot of people say their grub screws were way over tightened. It has been shown that over tightening these screws will deform the chamber. It’s a shame that CZ has such poor quality control at the factory.

[@redorrick427]

quit using ballistic x ,and just use dial calipers.your averages don't fit your groups. I don't see a group on paper thats more than a1 1/2 in. group, how can you come up with a 2.95 group,your math is wrong,and learn how to shoot better.

[@coreyd1474]

thanks for your input rick glooch.

[@brianwest5348]

I really appreciate the honest review (hard to get on yt these days). I'm like you when i get a rifle it should have decent accuracy out of the box. I was really leaning hard for the 457 American in 22 mag, but it seems to me they have lost somethig. I have the 455 17hmr/ 22lr combo and in 22lr it shoots very accurate. I guess i will look elsewhere for my 22mag. Any suggestions? I want a gun that looks good too or i would just get another Savage! Thanks again for the videos.

[@coreyd1474]

I dunno man that's a hard question to answer I do understand that I probably got a lemon. Having said that I've owned a few savage rimfires and none of them were this bad and my rprf is very good. Cz has a reputation for accuracy for a reason so I guess it all comes down to how much you want to spend on the gun and how much you want to spend on ammo, ya know?

[@brianwest5348]

@@coreyd1474 thanks for the reply. I like cz, but I have seen others not get great accuracy from the 457. I guess they are hit or miss!!!!

[@coreyd1474]

@@brianwest5348 yea then they must be. I waited a month to get this one and had planned to put it in a chassis and be done with it. IMO definitely not worth the wait or the money.

[@jasonoconnor9446]

Try a Lithgow.

[@coreyd1474]

@@jasonoconnor9446 bought a Tikka t1x mtr waiting for parts then I'll dona video

[@howtoshootstraighthtss4948]

Good honest review

[@coreyd1474]

thats the goal

[@dirrickash]

Try different action torque specs 15 inch pounds I got a CZ buddy that shooting 40 inch pounds. 25 inch pounds might be company standard but doesn’t mean that’s what you’re Gun likes. Start out with one of your more preferred ammo choices and at around 15 inch pounds and work up stopping around 35-40.

[@coreyd1474]

tried sever and it made zero difference.

[@Buzz7744]

Bought the T1X and tried 10 brands of ammo and the worst group at 50yards was .8" and the best was .3". Was going to buy this rifle bought was sold out and the guy at Cabelas talked me into the Tikka. 👍👍

[@coreyd1474]

Lol I sold this and bought a t1x as well lol and put it in a krg chassis. It's a zillion times better in every way than the 457

[@markallen755]

I have never seen a CZ shoot like that. Send it back to CZ USA for a checkup.

[@coreyd1474]

not worth the time money and effort. sold it long ago.

[@adibkashani7616]

U R moving the camera too much , but tx for the review

[@coreyd1474]

yea i started using my tripod to shoot videos. thanks for watching

[@stevedouglas5443]

I've been tempted, thinking about buying one, but even the ones that shoot better than yours are still not that great. Nice trigger, bull barrel free floated, hammer forged, but I've seen Marlin glenfields shoot better. Gonna keep looking.

[@coreyd1474]

there is definitely better options out there than this.

[@stevedouglas5443]

@@coreyd1474 did you check the torque on the barreled action? Maybe CZ is not checking for quality control like they should. It's guns like yours that bring them down. I've been eyeballing a varmint model, but first and foremost it needs to be effing accurate.

[@coreyd1474]

@@stevedouglas5443yea tried a few different settings, didn't really seem to help. i shoot with several cz's that are lights out. things like this just happen every now and then.

[@coreyd1474]

@@stevedouglas5443 no i did not. if you're in the market for something save up a little longer and get a bergara b14r. you will be happy you spent the extra money, trust me.

[@jeffmeeks2319]

Sounds like you are on Rugers payroll. If that’s all the better that gun is grouping at 50 yards, there’s a weak link somewhere... I can get a daisy BB gun to group like that...

[@coreyd1474]

It's crazy to think that this gun just may not perform well isn't it????????????? I'll take you up on the bbg bet any day of the week jeffrey

[@jeffmeeks2319]

@@coreyd1474 I’ve had guns with bent barrels that would group better than that…

[@coreyd1474]

@@jeffmeeks2319 why would you have a gun with a bent barrel? let me guess, you eat pieces of shit like me for breakfast?

[@markr831]

I have the same problem with mine. Beautiful gun but not accurate. I am completely disappointed.

[@coreyd1474]

it happens i know they make good guns.

[@TheGarnerjustin73]

Unfortunately, not all CZ 457's shoot the same. I love 457's, Super short slick action. But ive seen excessive headspace and bad muzzle crowns on too many rifles. And ive seen rifles that are perfectly within spec that just don't shoot well. And likewise, ive seen Sporter barreled 457's that shoot dirt ammo at half an inch all day long. Frankly, it's just the luck of the draw at the end of the day with any mass produced rifle. They just aren't all going to shoot half inch groups at 50 yards with most ammo.

[@coreyd1474]

yea i know cz makes quality stuff i shoot with a ton of guys who have 445s/457 and they are tac drivers. things happen no doubt! definitely a good action.

[@Brownvillarats]

Well that just sucks Corey. While I understand your frustrations, taking a bit more time with it may have improved many of those issues. It took a good while before I learned my 455 to shoot .8 or less consistently. At first, my 457 didn't do so well either. Then I learned that I didn't need to torque action screws when either bedded or pillared. Fixed my issues right away. With and without bi-pod and/or cheap/expensive ammo too. And no, I'm not like the other CZ fanboys who shoot 1/8 groups at a 100 yards. I'm much better at 1/16... Kidding aside, just as you took the time working with your other rifle, maybe the same should have gone into your CZ. Also, your groups weren't bad for a standard non-match barrel. What a lot of these you tube commenters forget to mention is that they likely modified their CZ to the point the only thing CZ is the action. Anyway, I wish you would've had a better experience and got your money back. Good day and good shooting.

[@coreyd1474]

thanks for the input! glad to hear a positive comment for once. You're right about people on the internet, everyone's rifle shoots 1/32" at 150 yards and you know nothing about shooting because your rifle doesn't shoot well. not kidding i have to thumb through those comments all day. who knew such negativity around 22 lr videos? Anyway, i sold this and ended up buying a tikka t1x mtr and it is MUCH better. not even close. Action, trigger, accuracy all much better.

[@keithshepherd4146]

Get Whistlepig barrel and turn it 17 mach 2 drive tacks

[@coreyd1474]

can you still find mach 2 ammo?

[@stevedouglas5443]

You may have a bedding issue, or a barrel issue, maybe your scope is "lose" internally. Something. That rifle should shoot better.

[@coreyd1474]

can say for sure its not the scope i had it on other rifles that shot well. hard telling i think its just a lemon.

[@stevedouglas5443]

@@coreyd1474 I've had lemons before also. Seems ironic that a rifle that's known for being very accurate is acting up like this. Maybe give some thought to CZ re barreling it. I bet they would for free. Just a thought.

[@coreyd1474]

@@stevedouglas5443 not i know they have decent customer service but not worth the time money and energy to me.

[@hipasssports]

Ouch . . . . This barrel should have gone to the CZ Auto Supplies Division. It was supposed to be an auto jack handle. Seriously, I've never seen a CZ perform this poorly and I've sold at least one hundred over the years. I sold 25 to a local club which supplies them for Boy Scot Merit Badge qualifications, Woman On Target, and other miscellaneous public shoots. They all still shoot well and I've only had to repair one in ten years. Now, I'm retired and just purchased a 457 for 'shits and grins.' Still in Commiefornia 10 day waiting period.

[@coreyd1474]

yea i shoot with a lot of guys who have cz and they perform well. just got a lemon.

[@jammer1mo]

Appreciate your video on that CZ. I believe I'll wait and get me a Tika

[@coreyd1474]

what i'd do if i were you is spend the little extra and get a bergara b14r

[@Morpheus02000]

My 457 Varmint MTR with 20 inch barrel is very accurate. I shoot playcards in half in 1 shot at 30m. Excellent groups at 50m. I can't do better with the Tikka T1X MTR and with the Ruger Precision Rimfire. And it's not ammo sensitive. I got the best results with Eley sports, but even cheap ammo like CCI standard does very well.

[@coreyd1474]

its funny you say that because i sold it to buy a tikka t1x mtr and its MILES ahead of the 457. i can cut playing cards consistently at 100 yards with it easily. glad you're getting good results with yours though!

[@Morpheus02000]

@@coreyd1474 I'm from Belgium and the ones we get all are with threaded barrels. I didn't tried cutting cards at 50m and you're speaking of 100m? I have a Bushnell Throphy 6-18x40 high contrast scope on it. Maybe I can do it at 50m or more, I should try it.

[@coreyd1474]

@@Morpheus02000 misewell try it!

[@Morpheus02000]

@@coreyd1474 I've seen your other video now. The Tikka is a very good gun. I shot also with the Tikka T3X RH TAC A1 in .223 and it's a very good and precise rifle, a bit expensive tho with a price of 2400€. The Tikka's, Ruger's and CZ's are in every gunstore here in Belgium. You said you had to order yours by Cabela's? I always need to hold the rifle in my hand before I buy it. But we can't buy firearms on the internet and let them deliver it on our doorstep. To crazy gunlaws here in Belgium. We can buy a .338 lapua magnum and immediately take it home, just like any lever-action, bolt-action, double barrel shotgun no matter which caliber. But a .22lr revolver is with a permit and we have to wait 3 months. A .22lr pistol we also can take immediately home with a Sports Shooter Licence. My Sig p226 LDC in 9mm is also with a permit. Really strange laws here...

[@coreyd1474]

@@Morpheus02000 you are right its a bit expensive and the stock it comes with from the factory is trash. I actually didn't order it they happened to have ONE in stock and that was the only one within a few hour drive of my house. Also, we can order them off the internet but they don't ship to your door it has to be shipped to a dealer where you go and then do the background check and all that. LOL thats pretty funny about being able to take home anything but a 22lr pistol. just goes to show you how stupid the people are who make the laws.