CZ 457 vs. Bergara B14R 22lr Challenge

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Guys here is a link to DarronB channel . kzbin.info

[@22LimaRomeo]

Darron is a awesome dude! If you ever get a chance to meet him, he’s a much taller man than he appears on camera.. well maybe because I’m not tall, unless I’m in China.

[@buffalosoutdoors]

Great video. A lot of work goes into these and we appreciate it.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Thanks Buddy . I enjoy the editing .. and of Course the shooting

[@Bob-lt5hf]

Awesome Video! As a NRA firearms instructor as impressive is with your shooting I must say that I appreciate your respect for range safety. When that other shooter asked for a cease fire you took proper safety action and cleared your firearm and backed away from your shooting bench! I bet no one would ever ever notice that in your comments. You Rock!!!!

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Thanks for that Bob

[@tmurray1972]

Nice shooting Joe.👌🏻 I would be happy with either of those rifles, but the CZ and 10X looked to be the man today.✅

[@sammartinez8084]

Nice looking CZ and thank you for the info my friend and you the man Joe

[@kamikazehunter]

Hey Joe. Good job on this test. Man that CZ is a Tac driver!!! Thank, Brother.. Much appreciated

[@garyK.45ACP]

My wife has the CZ 457 AT ONE, 24" barrel, and she loves it. Very accurate.

[@kentdavis7438]

As always...great video! I'm looking forward to your EP5 review. The CZ seemed to like the good stuff.

[@georgebailey5328]

Ditto…… let’s see the Ep5 review!

[@tedbaxter5234]

Very entertaining - I’m a simple person. Thanks for the time and effort to produce it! Stay safe and healthy.

[@ellobo1326]

I feel blessed. I have a Ruger 77/22 bolt action suppressed. The barrel was cut off to 7 inches (to reduce velocity) and the baffle system/bull barrel was press fit onto the barrel. I recently shot a .512 group at 50 yards with cheap ass Winchester Dynapoint ammo.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

That’s awesome !!! I love suppresseguns

[@davidmcgrath9581]

Outstanding video Joe, really professional ! regards from the Emerald Isle.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Thanks David

[@Dayattherange]

WOW nice rifles and nice shooting. I have been afraid of the Bergara because of the ejection issues I have seen and heard of thanks for sharing that tid bit of information.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Staking it was huge

[@mauricenations7511]

That’s some great shooting Sir. U could wear a squirrels head out. Enjoyed the video Joe.

[@CaptainCreampie69]

“And just my luck, it likes the most expensive shit you can shoot out of it.” Combined with your reaction you had me crying I was laughing so hard. Maybe its just late but that’s the funniest shit I’ve ever heard about a gun. 😂🤣😂

[@cliftonwhittaker260]

That's why it costs the most. When I quit shooting competition in '86 Tenex had just gone up to $160 a brick. What is it now?

[@JeffreyADodge]

Love your videos as usual Joe, thanks man! recently bought a B14 because in part of the series you've put out on each of yours, couldn't believe how good your out of the box B14 shoots! I've been out of the airgun seen for a little while but appreciate the support you gave me on my scope stickers too. Glad you're still shooting and having fun, youre the best man, enjoy

[@howdyduty8890]

Useful, well edited and presented. Much info,in a short time. Two comparable rifles, good ammo, good information. Thanks.

[@jimmccaffery410]

Hi, when you did the ‘summary’ of the targets, I wished you had displayed the group sizes and how you measured them. There was a lot of data in about 30 seconds. The B14R seemed to throw the first shot in each group, then settle down and shoot really tight. The CZ didn’t seem to do that. The two rifles, level playing field identifies rifle quirks and the differences between the ammunition grades. In the future you’ll save me a ton of money not duplicating your testing. I appreciate your effort shooting these videos, that ammunition wasn’t cheap, neither is your time.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Yeah the Bergera shoots better after seasoning

[@edjett2631]

@@CyclopsJoeVideos Every rimfire rifle I've owned or shot shoots better if the bore is seasoned after changing ammo. Both of those rifles would be wonderful to own. Either one, but YOU have both. I don't envy you, but it IS tempting to do so.

[@mikelastpass689]

Another Great Video Joe. Yr video's are becoming so slick in their production. Really Great Work & always interested in seeing the cz 457 & how it stacks up against other fine rifles in this caliber. 👍👍

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Thanks for that

[@jameslovasziii6917]

I really enjoyed this video!! Actually love this series of videos!! Damn I want to go shoot but it’s only 8° here in Southwest Pennsylvania…

[@richardfisher3656]

Just got some eley team to try out of my cz457, but right now it's 14 below zero outside here! I'll wait. Can't wait to see how eley does for you out at 100yds.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Yeah I tried it outta the BERGARA …1/2 Moa

[@Jeff-mv4yy]

I love it Joe. Let's see if the stubby barrels can hang at 100 !!!

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

We will see soon

[@patthis]

Thanks Joe, great fun with those .22s

[@sylviahofer1246]

Your editing skills are amazing! Especially for being an old guy. Lol absolutely loved the video! Moe on Mt wife's account.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Thanks Buddy . I am trying to get better as I go

[@Ming_USA]

Nice video and thanks for the work you put into this! One suggestion I'd have is, when you switch ammo on each gun, give it one round or two to refoul the barrel. I don't know if you have noticed. Several times after you switched ammo, the first one shot (sometimes the first two) strayed away from the rest of the group and made the group size considerably larger. It happened on both rifles. If you account for that, the actual group size should be a lot smaller for a few ammos.

[@TacticalBuffoonary]

Nice shooting Joe!! Both of those rifles shoot great. Cant wait to see the review of the EP5.

[@cliftonwhittaker260]

About time we had a rimfire channel. I'm really enjoying this.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Thank You

[@justinweaver8787]

Love both rifles buddy. Great set up.

[@williamwasyluk4244]

Thanks For The Video Joe...Looking Forward To The 100 Yards Shoot...Like The CZ...Also The Set Up Imfo

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

CZ rocks

[@timshelley8635]

Great video, good shooting, nice ammo and beautiful rifles!

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Yeah man I wish I had that one of his !

[@WheelHouseWhisky]

Cool vid. great editing. Noticed your groups as whole were tighter. Only one spread group. Your technique improvements show.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Thank You

[@Dwayne7834]

Good shooting Joe. Thanks for the video and information.

[@karencarroll2571]

Great vid, great content, great shooting. Really enjoyed this, Joe. And sweet rifles too! Thank you.

[@tonyv8925]

It looks like the one rifle hits high on cold bore shot and the other one seems to be right on. Thanks for sharing.

[@kstart1]

Great video, great shootin'. Both beautifully done.

[@adamhenley7297]

Now then joe 👍🏻👍🏻 Both rifles look the dogs 🥜 Seen you really perform with that Bergara before!!! Lights out!!! 😂 can always tell when you’re having fun because you’re tongues out!! Top job 👍🏻👍🏻 P.s you’re the one squeezing the trigger so you can tell... but you look more comfortable behind the ( B )

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Yeah I like it the best . The CZ stock SUCKS

[@WheelHouseWhisky]

@@CyclopsJoeVideos I did notice your hanging off the back off the cheek rest on cz. If u could move your scope up to the end of your rail. Looks like your eye relief is really good on that scope. It will give more pull length to make it fit into shoulder better. Stock is really for juniors/ smaller frame people so you will have to max its pull options to fit you.

[@budrobinsin7141]

Cool video Joe! Both great looking rifles, but like the CZ a lil more! Thank you!

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

More coming soon

[@garylozowski1419]

Great shooting Joe! Can’t wait for the 100 yard results. Also, nice job on the editing. I’m hoping you’ll do a similar series with SK ammo. My CZ prefers the SK against any Eley.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Yeah waiting on them to come in

[@arthurdirindinjr1792]

Been trying hard to get into 22lr BR for about a year now but things keep getting in my way. One thing (of many) I was told by guys who are successful seasoned veterans of competing in various different 22lr rifle competitive disciplines is if absolute maximum accuracy is your goal that you need to shoot a minimum of 15-20 rounds of any 22lr ammunition (but absolutely must if shooting quality especially very high quality 22lr match ammo) PRIOR to shooting it in competition in order to as they called it "season and settle down" your barrel to that specific 22lr ammo ESPECIALLY match grade ammo before you can even begin to achieve your maximum accuracy potential from any 22lr rifle and ammunition combination I was told you will likely not achieve your rifles maximum accuracy potential by jumping from ammunition type to ammunition type be it a different ammo or same ammo but different lot# without first seasoning your barrel to that ammo. I tried this out with my T1X and CZ 452 American using quality match grade ammo like RWS R50, Eley 10x, Eley Match and SK Rifle Match and even several lesser but still higher grades of ammo and it proved to be absolutely true with all of them. I never got as good of groups with any ammo in my first three 5 shot 50 yard groups as I did with my 4th 5th or 6th 50 yard groups Same when I shot a 50 yard card if I didn't first season my barrel to any particular ammo my first 25 bull target was never near as good as my second. Something you must consider if you wish to perform a successful ammunition evaluation and not end up wasting time and very costly 22lr ammunition

[@OC_Lofton]

Great shooting! Well done video👍🏽 Thanks Joe!

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Thank You

[@ianwoodward1554]

Love ya work buddy, love ya work.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Thank You

[@craignmz5264]

Well I’m glad you didn’t bore the shit out of me! Good video, man I want a cz457. They never show up around here.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Yeah I’m hunting for another one

[@MikeBarrientos-eo4or]

Nice looking guns you got there Joe,dam good video

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Thanks man I appreciate it

[@scarbourgeoisie]

Great video, can't go wrong with either manufacturer. Neither one will disappoint. I have two B14's and a 16.5" 457. All three are super accurate. Having owned both the 20" and 16.5" 457, I'd recommend the shorter barrel. Spend a bit more and go the MTR route.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Both of these are awesome

[@1valg]

If you can get your hands on one, it would be great to see a comparison between these two and a Tikka T1 😀

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

I’m trying to now

[@1valg]

@@CyclopsJoeVideos Great! Lookin´ forward to it!

[@silentbob7984]

It would be interesting to see the results from the same rifles without any upgrades.😁

[@SP4Parks]

I have the CZ 457 American 22 WMR . I use it for hogs & coyotes & at 100 yds it's just as accurate as if it was 50. I don't see many video's on WMR's ( 22 mag ) , it is a great caliber.

[@BLACKRIFLEREVIEWS]

Yes, it is Ken! Joe Ken has a ladder stand set up in the cat bird seat he is in a Target Rich Enviromint trail cameras show Hogs, Coyotes, Bob Cats, Fox, Racoons, Opossums and Armadillos passing thru the game trails. I want a CZ SEMI AUTO 20- or 22"-barrel .22 Magnum. Joe shoots damn good for a one-eyed jack don't he !

[@jamesb.armstrong5433]

We have a CZ 457 American in 22LR and 22 WMR. We really like both of them.

[@TJHill-qx9hy]

Hey Joe - Very Nice shooting, and that’s an awesome way to enjoy the range - somewhat inexpensively 😜 I know that I really enjoy my CZ 455 .22lr - she’ll put a hurting on the target at 50 & ,if I do my part, at 100 😬😎 Keep the videos coming!!

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Thanks . 100 yards coming soon

[@edjett2631]

@T.J. Hill, I'm the same way about my 452 FS. It's a great rifle that shoots almost any ammo better than any other rimfire I own.

[@ysteinkristiansen]

Realy nice shooting! 👍

[@jeremydelcastillo4611]

Great video! Just what I was looking for really. Was considering to sell my 457 At-one for a Bergara b14r

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

I wouldn’t

[@jeremydelcastillo4611]

@@CyclopsJoeVideos Any suggestions on what I should do for the CZ? Should I change the barrel or any other modifications? Doesn’t seem to be as good of a shooter than the other CZs and Tikkas I shot

[@ronedee]

Thanks for the Eley comparison. I have the B14r. I've found that any target gun needs a few rounds to acclimate to a new ammo. You could probably call the first shot or 2, flyers? Maybe not a big deal using different examples in the same brand. But certainly when comparing different name brands.

[@scarbourgeoisie]

I find the same thing with both my B14's.

[@biagiocozza8875]

Great video Joe. CZ is still my favourite. I’m not sure if you bed your rifles, but to me it makes a huge difference.

[@unclebuzz6913]

WOOOWEE THEMS SOME PURTY GUNS.... THAT WAS MY IMPERSONATION OF DELIVERANCE,,THANK YOU ... THAT IS IMPRESSIVE. I'D LOVE TO SEE THEM OUT TO 100 YARDS. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONES STAY SAFE

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Coming soon

[@davea.9570]

I complain to my kids about watching KZbin videos of other people playing video games but I sure do enjoy watching other people shoot. Go figure. Thanks Joe

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Thanks Dave

[@juanrojos78]

Great comparison I have both but haven’t had a lot of trigger time cause the weather is below freezing outside

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Yeah man , when it warms up I’m on this

[@deivishenao987]

a hundred??? It was time Joe....😁 stretch them out...make those expensive tools work hard for the money you paid....hey my 10yo daughter competes at 100+ with a 457 PV 16"... She will want to see that video. Take care ..great video as always.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Yeah I just have to catch a day when it’s not busy at the range . Pretty days here lately draw a crowd

[@paulkonstek4825]

Great video Joe. Just a note, you look a lot more comfortable on the BR14 than you do on the CZ. It looks like your scope on the CZ could move forward an inch to bring you all the way on to your cheek rest as your only half way on it, unlike the Begarra. In saying that, it doesn’t seem to be effecting your shooting.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Yeah it’s as far fwd as I can get it . I will be changing out that scope soon

[@22LimaRomeo]

You picked a good day to do some bench work. Wind was dead out there.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Yeah man , just got lucky

[@lancsvermincontrol]

I forgot to put my ear defenders on once when I fired my 12 gauge 😬😬😬 haven’t t forgot since that day...

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Yeah a guy unleashed a 340 wetherby about a week ago at the range without saying anything first . Ears range for 24 hours

[@greggarmin9426]

Damn I love that CZ!

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

No Doubt !! Man it is a blast to shoot

[@jeffreyhall838]

Cant beat a day at the range with a couple of nice .22 rimfires 👍

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

It’s a blast

[@javiersp01]

Thanks Joe !!

[@brannonbrown7720]

Was lookin for your review video on the ep5

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

KZbin restricted it . When they ease up and scopes are in stock it’ll drop

[@dougdishler2086]

Greet shooting guns !!! Darron a good dude he’s saving me a hunting spot Kansas lmao!!!! I wish

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Yeah man great channel

[@linklesstennessee2078]

Good shooting Joe

[@minigpracing3068]

That CZ seems to do a little better with the good ammo, kind of surprised. Also those barrels look really short. I know they are 22LR, but you would think another few inches would get you a little more. I guess that is the length to burn the majority on the powder.

[@Jeff-mv4yy]

I agree with the appearance on the barrel length. Overall, in my experience, longer barrels (20-23") have shot best for me... then I got a CZ 16" pro Varmint as a base gun for a build. My intent was to immediately replace that stubby barrel with a longer Lilja, IBI, or maybe even the 20" CZ MTR barrel. But that little stubby barrel shoots so well at 50, I don't dare touch it ! It will hang with my Sako P94S. Maybe I hit the barrel lottery, but if you check some vids online, a lot of good ones with this short barrel. I'll be real interested in the 100 yard tests as I have not tried for more than minute of clay pigeon at 100 with mine. -- Joe, that bipod on the Bergara looks sooooo cool !

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Yeah it shoots fine … but to my eye it looks “ funny”

[@DaMadMardigan]

Eley Tenex in my Kidd 10/22 shoots 1 ragged holes at 50 and nickel groups at 100.

[@stevennewman4778]

Cyclops, so far it seems the best ammo for the money is SK semi-auto. I’ve tried it through 2 AR uppers (1:9 and 1:16), stock 10/22, customized 10/22, RPR rimfire, Taurus TX22 and good results in all both muffled and unmuffled. What say you?

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Yeah man that stuff shoots great outta everything we have on hand

[@tubero37]

I had a .36 inch group with my $140 mossberg plinkster at 50 yards with a Nikon rimfire scope. That rifle has a horrible heavy trigger that if you figure out how to stage it, it becomes a two stage trigger. The "second stage" is only about .5 lbs. Hard to get it staged every single time, though, hahaha!

[@Mr_N0_0ne]

I have been fortunate to get just as nice groups at 50 with my cz 455 just using basic cci ammo!

[@akhladi2]

Cz's action seems to be smoother than Bergera,by the way thanks for the nice work.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

It is

[@robeyreed2499]

Where is the Arken EP5 5-25x56 First Impressions Video Coning Saturday !!!!, its Sunday…..LOL.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

KZbin restricted video

[@jerryking3208]

Do you know if Eley uses the same lube on all their 22 ammo? Thanks.

[@theunforgivenpuritan4102]

Tenex, Match & Team use the same. Club and Target are the same..most everything else Eley uses same lube as club/target

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Thanks for that

[@domingoliao2724]

Joe, are you familiar with Sniper brand optics based in TX ? they have affordable FFP scopes in the 199- 300 + & have some positive reviews because of the glass! I am undecided between the Blackhound 4-14 x44 or one of there scopes! the only thing that paves my way of choosing the Blackhound was the zero stop! but at this time, they have the price up a little bit! I’m looking for a compact or shorter scope to swap either on my pcp or my .22 pcp pistol.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Never seen them . Sorry

[@Guide504]

Cold bore on the b14 is high with subsiquent tight group below. Is this 1st round from the mag every time or cold bore.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

I know . Drives me nuts

[@richardt.4224]

A great video again Joe, THANK YOU. One coment though! When you edit your video to showing both targets below each rifle, please add a few more seconds as I found it hard to hit freeze frame, so I could have a good look! I also appreciated seeing both of the Boyd stock styles. Which do you prefer?

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Man great tip , I honestly grew tired of the Boyd’s stocks after a while . They just weren’t as nice as the ones I used to own

[@richardt.4224]

Thanks for the reply. The two you used are what I have been looking at! So thumbhole or regular, which?

[@poorfatman5317]

Awesome video

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Thank You

[@DLN-ix6vf]

where is the data ?

[@2259alfie]

Nice shooting

[@kraken509]

What color option is the Boyd’s stock on the Bergara?

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Not sure what it’s called

[@davidgreenapple9397]

Would you say that the Boyd's AT ONE stock makes a positive difference? The Bergara comes with a pretty solid stock but I see you replaced it.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Mine was bought without a stock

[@peternelson9865]

Well done 👍

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Thank You

[@CheckMate-g9u]

Just for the heck of it try some high velocity rounds different combinations.

[@LosDaniellosB]

I am about to make a purchase and can't make up my mind, I am between Bergara B14R and CZ 457 LRP. Can you share your opinion and maybe tell which one would you choose?

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

The Bergara is less ammo fussy , but can be a pain with the magazine

[@joecarson3479]

How about Vudoo three 60? Your thoughts. Thanks. Love your channel.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

I hope to try one , one day

[@ronboff3461]

good shootin old timer!

[@wesleycameron1034]

Hey so I’m a new shooter. I’m right handed but have to shoot long guns left handed because I’m blind in my right eye. Any tips or advice for a fellow cyclops?? Only shooting for just over a year and I go out when I can. Thanks

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

No man . Just have fun with it !!!!

[@pwn3426]

I love my b14r in the hm r chassis. It will outshoot my cz 457 in a krg bravo anyday.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

It’s a blast to shoot

[@anthonydefreitas6006]

Great video as usual. The question to ask is , was the missfire down to the rifle or the ammunition?

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Had to be the ammo . It put a hell of a dent in the rim

[@anthonydefreitas6006]

@@CyclopsJoeVideos recently I had a squib load with load with RWS club. It left the bullet 50mm (2 inches) in the barrel and unburnt powder in the action. I've never seen that before with a rimfire.

[@BLACKRIFLEREVIEWS]

Hey Joe, where are you going with that gun in your hand! I prefer that CZ 457 that thing is a tack driver! minute of eyeball! outstanding review. not bad FOR a one eyed jack ! LoL

[@danhattersley6213]

Those Tenex were super accurate dude, I'm guessing the tolerances on the power load out and bullet weight are that much tighter than the others?

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

It is !

[@spacemarin04]

So I've been looking at both of those rifles for the past 2 weeks. Both cost about the same. Overall which one do you think is better?

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

The CZ . No doubt , the BERGARA looks better . But is a pain in the azz

[@OrganicBaseBeing]

I would prefer to see how both rifle perform with just one brand of ammo and call it a day. It seems like the flaws in rifle design and in ammo make a statement in unachievable performance.

[@tacocin]

THe CZ shoots great already but a Lilja barrel would make it even better.

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

Yeah I’m looking into it

[@robeyreed2499]

You can’t upload it or you can upload it but you have login?

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

It won’t get monitized so I will upload again and appeal

[@aaronjohnson8575]

I have that same 457. Not surprised at the results. Figured it would be close. Have you ever tried the bulk federal auto match in that 457? Mine shoots it surprisingly well.

[@briansupermag3918]

All this rimfire is killing me. Always wanted a 22mag. Hmm

[@georgeharvey3062]

It seems like there is always a flyer on the first shot. So how much do you think the accuracy is the ammo over the gun? Also how large is the bullseye.m? It’s hard to tell on the video. Thank you for the video. I just ordered the CZ 457 At One. Hoping I didn’t buy the wrong one.

[@rickbunting1066]

Joe did you find much of an improvement with the At-One stock on the Bergara.

[@weduhpeople8504]

Nice I have a CZ 455 trainer I need to take to the range. I need to try this ammo. I usually shoot cci high velocity .22lr. Your CZ likes the expensive gourmet food, lol. Does that at one stock require bedding the action?

[@deaczorz]

you like shooting the worst stuff i hear

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

No it’s as came . I can’t stand it !!!

[@davidgreenapple9397]

One more question please: you mention the Timney trigger for the Bergara. I went to Timney website and can't find it. What model Timney trigger are you using on the Bergara please?

[@CyclopsJoeVideos]

It’s a Remington 700 trigger , any rem 700 trigger fits the bergara