In this video I go over two great options for magazine extensions for the CZ p10s. Thanks for watching!
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@ATeamReilly3 жыл бұрын
Out of all my CZ P lines, i love the versatility of the S. The F sits at my bedside, my C sits on the kitchen refrigerator, and my S sits in my appendix holster. CZ by far!
@arnielzulueta34423 жыл бұрын
Add cz p10 m to complete your cz line up.
@DJSLo363 жыл бұрын
I need a CZP10F now
@scottlouis61162 жыл бұрын
just ordered mine ! got it in 2 tone with od green! which holster do u have for it?
@jjones91432 жыл бұрын
@@scottlouis6116 I got s vedder light tuck Iwb. I love it. It replaced my hidden hybrid.
@Abe-xh8fb9 ай бұрын
Gotta get some steel framed ones as well p01 or sp01 love both
@natturnerlearner1672 жыл бұрын
Because of this review I went with the Hyve in matte black and I am impressed. The fit and finish is better than the factory +2 and it actually looks like the should've came with the gun. My only complaint is the HYVE billboard they put on the side of it but other than that I'm a happy camper.
@TheOfficialCaseMade2 жыл бұрын
A little acetone should take that off without damaging the paint... It works on HotWheels at least! YMMV.
@lukeklink54594 жыл бұрын
Bought one new didn’t get mag exts included, so just have standard 12 mag. I get pinched every first round I fire, then rest of mag is fine. Definitely going to check the Hyve out. Thanks!
@AllanG19143 жыл бұрын
Me too. Just picked one up today and no mag extenders.
@Bagz19854 жыл бұрын
Nice set up. I’ll be getting a Hvye after watching this. Look at a Shield Arms plus 5 on your C mag.
@regondi4 ай бұрын
The Hyve set screw is terrible. I bought the +2 for my P10M. Put it on and tightened the set screw and…still slid off. Ended up doing a couple small tacks with epoxy to keep it on. Works great now but the set screw sucks.
@dougdarby35642 жыл бұрын
For me the UTG works best Tried some others that didn't fit my hand Gonna try some +1 options from CZ parts Went with FOD holster and it's great P10S rules
@MidwesternFC2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I know this was a few years ago but this really helped me out. Cant wait to pick this up.
@matthewd.1805 Жыл бұрын
This is what I needed to see. I want these mag extensions, but didn't want to drastically increase the print. Looks great! Gonna order a few. I have a few p10F mags with +5 extensions for my P10S at the range. These +3 will be great for EDC
@Rubeless6 ай бұрын
Bad training with the F +5 mags.
@JRich1654 жыл бұрын
Hello, learned a lot from the video and neither do I feel like I'm the only one on the planet to own a S anymore Lol.. Question: I needed a magazine for my P10S I just bought new but the 12+1 was taken out due to state restrictions. Can I use a P10C magwhile I track down actual S clips in the mean time? They're sold out everywhere I've checked. Thanks
@eve24583 жыл бұрын
Yea. I have a p10c 17 rnd mag. There's a big gap but it works.
@ojh70252 жыл бұрын
@@eve2458 would you happen to know if there's somebody making sleeves to fill the gap for the use of larger capacity cz mags in smaller framed cz's?
@eve24582 жыл бұрын
@@ojh7025 sleeves not really sure. The only thing I can think of is getting a regular 12+1 mag with a +5 baseplate or whatever increase in capacity your looking for. +5 is the max I've seen for baseplates I believe. Few companies out there that make em
@ojh70252 жыл бұрын
@@eve2458 k. Thx
@MrX-qo5wb2 жыл бұрын
I hv one as well stock
@TheOfficialCaseMade2 жыл бұрын
My problem with the OEM +2 is that it curves outward, pushes my pinky out and makes my grip feel unnatural. The Hyve looks like it should solve that since it goes straight down. It also fills the awkward gap on the rear and makes it look a lot more uniform.
@tdubbs9ner3 жыл бұрын
The second Mag doesn't pinch you as much because it brings your pinky forward a little bit more. I wonder if you put some tape on the stock mag to bring you your finger forward a bit, it would prevent pinching. I'm not talking about covering the Gap either.
@user-ko1rd8up8l4 жыл бұрын
The Henning baseplate looks nice also...
@kaedonfa90783 жыл бұрын
Geoffrey Shearing that’s what i got, was so good i had to get two lol
@user-ko1rd8up8l3 жыл бұрын
@Al Castill you can buy direct from Henning Group on-line. Henning shop . Com I believe. Take out the spaces.
@Portuducks2 жыл бұрын
Shield Arms makes a +5 extension for the P10S. They also sell pre-installed P10S mags with the +5 extension.
@squillson2261 Жыл бұрын
for 73 bucks???
@Montyang13 жыл бұрын
I thought about getting the shield arms one plus 5 but was a bit too long for my liking, probably go with the hyve instead
@kutncure2 жыл бұрын
I have the Cz p10s. I have the Hyve +3 but I can’t add +3. Do I need to keep the mag plate in to get the +3 or do I need to remove the plate?…. It took me a year plus to get this handgun…..keep,informing us
@kutncure Жыл бұрын
I have the CZp10s with Hyve +3. I am looking for a holster that will give me could retention for the hoster. what brand do u recommend, thx..love your Vid, great sound
@superstatus26403 жыл бұрын
I love my p10s and my only complaint is that them slide cuts are sharp af! Nice video
@TheOfficialCaseMade2 жыл бұрын
I love that about the P10 series, absolutely no way to slip off the slide when you're manipulating it.
@rimshot4137 ай бұрын
Did the extensions work fine for you? I have problem with +2 (the stock one as well), after last shot slide does not lock in rear position. It does lock every time when I shoot with standard plate (12 rounds mag). I think of looking now to replace springs for either ones from P10C clip or aftermarket ones like those added to +5 plate by Strike Industries.
@GrandRoyaLBassMan2 жыл бұрын
Hello! Did you have trouble with the hyve extension ? A follower jam when using the plus 3? I read a comment about this on KZbin I am looking for an extension for the p10s that does not pinch my finger and adds at least 2 rounds Any other suggestions? Thanks
@KX2U Жыл бұрын
there are a few 3 d prints to extend the mag for the s version. BE CAREFUL! In some states you can only have 10 rounds. Only print the one(s) that extend the pinky for a better grip but not the rounds.... you can et in real big trouble if you are not careful on this.
@bBlaF Жыл бұрын
Long before I spent money on more baseplates, I'd throw a layer of epoxy on the pinchy one to close the gap. 2¢, maybe, and problem solved.
@presidentfunnyvalentined4c5673 жыл бұрын
I wish I would have bought the optics ready one
@CarlosRodriguez-lk8oz3 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking about getting a Cz p10C or S is it worth it ? Do they make quality guns?
@overlandedc3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. CZ is top notch
@adamwelles55023 жыл бұрын
Great guns
@rabbivj2 жыл бұрын
im running henning baseplates, i tried to run hyve mags but they got chewed up trying to put them on. I like the henning baseplates but ive pinched my fingers a couple of times heh.
@jonnyt162 жыл бұрын
Sweet, Hyve makes good stuff. Are you still carrying the P-10S? I'm torn between it and the HK VP9SK. I have the full size VP9 and am very confident and accurate with it so the SK makes sense. However, when I picked up a P10S at my gunshop it felt amazing. It "pointed" dead on for me. Trigger felt even better than the HK as well.
@arnielzulueta34423 жыл бұрын
I have p10f, c,s,m and evo3 but im still looking for po1 omega.
@peternorth17214 жыл бұрын
How do you attach the light without it flying off? My friend has this gun and light combo and the light only stays on in dry fire
@tysonrowe10023 жыл бұрын
The light comes with several insert that attach the light to many different guns.
@Abf_-oq8ps3 жыл бұрын
Great video I have hyves on a few of my glocks. I just bought a p10s and was wondering did you change out the mag spring for the hyve +3? And what plate mount did you use for your holosun? Thanks
@overlandedc3 жыл бұрын
I did not change out the spring and the Holosun plate is the same as the RMR
@cairidegia41233 жыл бұрын
Good video... How did you get the TLR-7A to fit the P10S?
@Zachariahszz3 жыл бұрын
Hi there, very informational video. I have a question about your TLR7A. Did you have to get aftermarket keys in order to install it on your P10S or did you get the sub version TLR7A? I recently got mine and the keys that came with it do not fit on my P10S. Thank you again for the video!
@overlandedc3 жыл бұрын
I have the standard tlr7 and I just modded one of the keys
@Zachariahszz3 жыл бұрын
@@overlandedc Thank you for the reply! I believe it's the 1913-4 key that needs to be machined down but if the sub version corrected this problem, I will probably go that route
@stephanie_beth3 жыл бұрын
Great video! What are your thoughts on Hyve's preassembled extensions, magazine and extension, they're selling? My P-10 S didn't come with the base pad ext. you showed and I bought a couple of the Hyve preassembled. Now wondering if I should've saved money by not getting the preassembled version... CZ parts has a little pinky like base pad, plus zero, that I'm thinking of buying for EDC. Have you seen those? Any thoughts?
@overlandedc3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's a bad idea to buy them directly from Hyve. I haven't seen the extension you referred to but it sounds like the UTG one I have. Plus zero but adds a little more to the grip.
@stephanie_beth3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information. I'm so happy you made this video, I bought two directly from Hyve, already received! Very happy with them.
@OD_G00N3 жыл бұрын
What kind of holsters would you recommend for the p10s? I've heard and seen multiple recommendations, but they're all for the p10c. Very nice setup, this is actually the exact setup I'm wanting to have, although I've been looking more towards the TLR-7 as a light for that more flush fit.
@dudechain3 жыл бұрын
I use the brand tier 1 concealed holsters. I love them. Their fit and finish is spot on.
@overlandedc3 жыл бұрын
mckinatec holsters makes them for the p10s. Use code EDCGEARANDGUNREVIEWS for 15% off
@dancaseydpt34534 жыл бұрын
Have you noticed any difference with the spring stiffness? I really like these but the only barrier is if the factory mag would have any reliability issues with this extension.
@overlandedc4 жыл бұрын
nope. They function 100%
@raauger4 жыл бұрын
I tried a HYVE and had difficulty getting 15 rounds loaded. I just loaded 14 and it fed all the rounds okay, but the slide failed to lock back after the last round. I suspect the spring is not stiff enough to activate the slide lock.
@joshuadavis35604 жыл бұрын
@@raauger i can only get 13 in. my slide locks fine but i got on here real quick to see if anyone else had problems. at 2 mags i took mag back apart and then reinstalled and still couldnt get more than 13? any thoughts?
@raauger4 жыл бұрын
@@joshuadavis3560 Here is what I have right now. "Shield Arms" (shieldarms.com) makes a +5 magazine extension kit that includes a longer spring. They will sell the spring as a separate item so I decided to give it a try. It was a real pain to install, but now the slide will lock back on the last round. Okay, if the longer spring gives enough compression to lock back the slide how can I get more compression out of the stock spring? I decided to try leaving the locking plate on the spring. The HYVE doesn't have a hole to accept the locking plate so I modified the plate by slicing off the locking nub. Come to think of it, did you leave the locking plate on the spring? It takes up space in the stack and will certainly interfere with loading additional rounds, especially if you do not eliminate the locking nub. Anyway, it worked. I have one HYVE with a longer spring, and another with the stock spring and a modified locking plate. I can only get 14 rounds in each of them, but both slides do lock back after firing the last round. "Henning Group" (henningshop.com) sells a magazine extension that is a +2 for a P-10C and a +1 for a P-10S. Back when I bought it they were selling a modified follower that would make the extender a +2 for the P10S. All they did to modify the follower was file down the forward and rear legs and sell it for $4. Hell, you could do that yourself with a fingernail file or sandpaper. Which makes me think, what if I modify the followers in my HYVE setup? Will I finally be able to load 15 rounds? The Henning Group extension is really nice. It adds less than a quarter inch to the overall height and feels way better than the stock floor plate.
@GrandRoyaLBassMan2 жыл бұрын
@@raauger hello! Do you know how much they shortened the follower legs?
@willybert733 жыл бұрын
The Holosun comes with a set of two different size screws to mount to the optic plate. Which size did you use? (Short or long)
@kutncure3 жыл бұрын
Great video..love mag HyDe extensions...What holster do You use with light and holison RMR?..
@overlandedc3 жыл бұрын
Mckinatec. You can use edgearandgunreviews for 15% off
@kutncure3 жыл бұрын
@@overlandedc thanx for the suggestion..holster look great....I think I going to purchase--unfortunately the discount code does not work..can u confirm..thanks again..
@overlandedc3 жыл бұрын
@@kutncure kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKOwapuvhJxsoKc it’s in the description of the video
@ConciergeMD11 ай бұрын
Did you install the optic yourself?
@billtaylor1656 Жыл бұрын
I see Calloway precision has the extenders listed for the CZP 10 c. Will they first the p10s?
@skeletonking947 ай бұрын
yes some reviews already confirmed it will just placed an order today
@realtalk36537 ай бұрын
What size Backstrap do you have on the grip ??
@Neil-bj7hh3 ай бұрын
what key do you use or your light? did you need to mod it?
@miroslavfiala49613 жыл бұрын
Hi, can you see the sights through the red dot please?
@wonkydada3 жыл бұрын
Stock iron sights will not co-witness with red dot
@scottcampbell25853 жыл бұрын
Ragnarok 9/40 tlr-7 7A works for the Czp10f and c . A little heat on holster.
@ryanp60723 жыл бұрын
Do the 10rd mags that are offered with some p10s able to have 12 RDS put in them? I know the holes in the back dont have 12 but there doesn’t look to be any pins in the side. Are the base plates not able to be removed? I use shield arms for my p07 and those will work with a p10s but just curious if you can modify the 10rd mags out for them. They look almost the same except the rear window holes
@overlandedc3 жыл бұрын
Should be fine to add extensions to the 10 round mags
@spacedaddycereal73 Жыл бұрын
Cz parts has finger extensions.. still 12rds but you would be able to have a firmer grip
@shooter3288 Жыл бұрын
Did you have to make modifications to the rail to get that light to fit?
@overlandedc Жыл бұрын
No I modded one of the keys
@shooter3288 Жыл бұрын
@@overlandedcgotcha, do you remember which key? 1913-1?
@illphaticx44403 жыл бұрын
What extension do you have for your streamlight I have the tlr7 and at the range it had popped off during my first mag
@overlandedc3 жыл бұрын
I had to modify one of the keys to work
@illphaticx44403 жыл бұрын
Weird the guy at the gun store said the keys in the tlr7 would fit my cz p10s do you know what key you have to modify or make a video would be awesome
@kevinchan49512 жыл бұрын
Are all the discontinued models optics Ready
@D-KingMaker Жыл бұрын
Does this work on the full sizzle too?
@nate53884 жыл бұрын
Hello, do your Hyve extensions rattle with either 13 or 15 rounds loaded? I have two mags set up with the Hyves, and when I move the mag around the bullets rattle with an odd-numbered loadout (can’t remember if it holds true for all odd values, but definitely for 15 and 13 rounds). Just wondering if it’s normal...thanks!
@overlandedc4 жыл бұрын
ya a slight rattle when fully loaded
@joshuadavis35604 жыл бұрын
rattles bad at 13
@simonreyes12193 жыл бұрын
I put the Hyve +3 mag extension on and now the slide doesn't stay open when empty. It ran perfect no malfunctions everything cycled through when I took it to the range. Will replacing the spring in the mag help? Also Is it something to be worried about or is it fine leave it?
@overlandedc3 жыл бұрын
I believe the offer a stronger spring if you contact them
@simonreyes12193 жыл бұрын
Sounds good appreciate it
@TheRockster274 жыл бұрын
The +2 base plates you showed at the beginning of the video came included in the box of the gun?
@overlandedc4 жыл бұрын
They came with my gun yes. I got it from a third party so he may have added them.
@puma519213 жыл бұрын
Mine can't with them also. Brand new gun
@puma519213 жыл бұрын
Spell check. Mine came from the factory with two plus two's.
@MrX-qo5wb2 жыл бұрын
Seriously mine only came w two ten and i want bigger. I was wondering why he kept saying w the flush 12 round mags 🤯
@RecreationIndiana3 жыл бұрын
How do you mount the TLR7?? the “CZ P10” mounting plate is too large and doesn’t fit the P10S nor do any of the other playes
@overlandedc3 жыл бұрын
I modded one of the keys
@RecreationIndiana3 жыл бұрын
EDC Gear Reviews nice man. Is there any way you could show me the mod? Did you just grind down the notch on the smallest plate
@darkpassenger653 жыл бұрын
I live in one of those less free 10rd max capacity states so I'm looking for a +0 pad just to give me a little more area to wrap my pinky around. Does HYVE or anyone else you know of offer a +0 extended base pad?
@overlandedc3 жыл бұрын
Utg offers one
@darkpassenger653 жыл бұрын
@@overlandedc Thanks. Ordered a couple. Not a long as the HYVE, but I'm hoping they will do the trick.
@ryanp60723 жыл бұрын
Can the 10rd mags have another 2 put in them? They look identical almost to the 12rd mags? I don’t see any pins in the sides, is there a limiter near the base place inside?
@darkpassenger653 жыл бұрын
@@ryanp6072 No, there's no limiter at the bottom. I believe there is a difference in the spring length between the 10 and 12 round mags.
@diamatomtundra47854 жыл бұрын
Question, what is the brand for the $12.95 extension. I can not hear clearly on the video. Also, I cannot find anywhere where you can use the 10C mag on the 10S. Can someone elaborate? Thanks
@overlandedc4 жыл бұрын
Galloway precision. The p10c mag locks up and functions fine, just sticks out from the grip some. Good for a reload
@davebentz60723 жыл бұрын
What is the height with the hyve extension installed?
@inf4moustwin153 жыл бұрын
what holster you use for this firearm looking for a good one for concealment?
@overlandedc3 жыл бұрын
Mckinatec. I have a discount code. EDCGearandGunReviews will get you 15% off
@inf4moustwin153 жыл бұрын
@@overlandedc 🙏
@manuelulep64044 жыл бұрын
How do I mount a red dot? I don’t have the optic ready version. New to handguns lol.
@SonotCali3 жыл бұрын
Have to have the slide milled
@cjscott184153 жыл бұрын
Sent mine into Jagerwerks.; Did a Great job!
@jakelooser50503 жыл бұрын
My P10S came with 2 ten round mags, not 12? What do I need to do to get a 15 rd capacity?
@leonardjoseph2953 жыл бұрын
Get new mags. You got the California compliant mags
@jakelooser50503 жыл бұрын
@@leonardjoseph295 I ended up opening up the 10 rd mags and it looks like it's just a different spring but the mag housing is the same as the 12 rd mag. I ordered some +5 shield arms mag extensions and was able to get to a 16 rd capacity.
@kilo9er123 Жыл бұрын
What is the name of the $13 extension?
@HighStrangeDrifter9 ай бұрын
Can’t you just run the P-10 C mags in the P-10 S?
@ATeamReilly3 жыл бұрын
I love the Hyve extensions however, their quality control has gone downhill rapidly. I hope they get it together, because they are the best in my opinion
@WheresWaldo052 жыл бұрын
Only cz that needs an extender to keep all fingers on grip is the micro. And i am 6'6" so.....
@justinpeto4 жыл бұрын
How’d you get the tlr7a to mount? Did you mod the key?
@overlandedc4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Quickjob519 Жыл бұрын
What sight set is that?
@JRich1654 жыл бұрын
an you use P10C mags for the P10S? Can't find S Mags anywhere
@overlandedc4 жыл бұрын
Yes you can use P10C mags
@JRich1654 жыл бұрын
EDC Gear & Gun Reviews Thanks a MILLION, I’ll go run and grab the two I saw for the time being. The base plate was longer when I popped the Mag in and I was worried. It seated well though, it just looks like an extendo 😭😭🤦🏽♂️ but I’ll take it
@overlandedc4 жыл бұрын
J Rich no problem. I run the 15 rounder with a plus 2 extension for my reload
@JRich1654 жыл бұрын
EDC Gear & Gun Reviews see there, you’re living a dream with that extension. DC laws are ridiculous
@joep56273 жыл бұрын
Does the Hive require a new spring?
@overlandedc3 жыл бұрын
No
@tri3pleagent4 жыл бұрын
Which optic is that? 507C?
@overlandedc4 жыл бұрын
Kevin bond yes
@renecarbonell2403 жыл бұрын
What type of " Red Dot" are you running & why?
@overlandedc3 жыл бұрын
Holosun 507c. Why because the Holosun has been proven to be a very reliable optic and it’s a good price
@renecarbonell2403 жыл бұрын
@@overlandedc Will it the Holosun taka a lot of abuse, I'm going to be using it through some rough drills. And I've heard that can't a lot of damage.?
@overlandedc3 жыл бұрын
@@renecarbonell240 watch Sage Dynamics review on it. Doubt you'll put it through more abuse than he did.
@renecarbonell2403 жыл бұрын
I have reviewed a recent video & yes the latest version of the 507 will do just fine!
@brucedrewry8098 Жыл бұрын
Put the cz on top of the Glock so we can see the size difference. Thank you.
@inf4moustwin153 жыл бұрын
where did you get the extension from?
@overlandedc3 жыл бұрын
Which one?
@josecook14 жыл бұрын
What holster do you use with that light?
@overlandedc4 жыл бұрын
Mckinatecholsters.com. Use code EDCGearandGunReviews for 15% off
@nfakaedo97294 жыл бұрын
BROOO WTF I BOUGHT MINE BRAND NEW DID NOT COME WITH +2 Mag extension mag :((((
@jeb-ds5ie4 жыл бұрын
I work at a huge gun store in NC and we’re one of the largest CZ dealers in the country. P10S optics ready and the regular p10s dont come with mag extensions. Ive seen hundreds of these and none have mag extensions. The store he got them from probably just included them as a package, its not a CZ factory thing to include them
@jeb-ds5ie4 жыл бұрын
Im also taking home one of these myself next week. CZ makes fantastic weapons
@nfakaedo97294 жыл бұрын
Bro I agree! Ever since I got mine I want two of the same kind for no reason at all (:
@davidhudson25274 жыл бұрын
@@jeb-ds5ie He was misleading at the start of the video saying his gun came with the mag extensions and 3 mags. At about 5:20 he quickly said he got the gun at a private party sale. Meaning the previous owner put the Holosun 507C on it, bought a extra mag and the 2 mag extensions then sold it to him that way! Probably not misleading intentionally but he could have said so at the start of the video and avoided the confusion. All that being said.😁 I put the 507C on my P10S, bought a extra mag and Henning mag extensions before I even shot the gun. Works great for me. 👍
@harryabner33449 ай бұрын
Is anyone having issues cycling Hornady critical defense or other defense rounds through that weapon? So far, I have to use regular Hornady defense rounds.
@hkrockets7 ай бұрын
Barrel too short for reliability with 147gr
@celticanglotx3133 жыл бұрын
Does czp10c mag fit in the czp10s???
@overlandedc3 жыл бұрын
yes
@ojh70252 жыл бұрын
@@overlandedc do you happen to know if anyone makes a sleeve or plate to fill in the gap?
@jacob041034 жыл бұрын
Whats the total weight of the cz p10s with your setup with the mag extension and mag loaded? Compared to the glock 19 the same way?
@overlandedc4 жыл бұрын
haven't weighed it but I will. I'm guessing the glock will be lighter due to the polymer mags
@ATeamReilly3 жыл бұрын
Everyone likes the Shield ext mags. They work great, more capacity however, ugly as sin. Lol
@robehinger36297 ай бұрын
So many teachable moments lost when you are moving out of view.
@crazyworld25704 жыл бұрын
What's the least inexpensive ammunition I can buy for this gun? (target practice)
@overlandedc4 жыл бұрын
tough questions these days. Buy what you can find. Any 115 Grn fmj is going to be fine and the cheapest.
@crazyworld25704 жыл бұрын
@@overlandedc Thank you sir.
@crazyworld25704 жыл бұрын
@@overlandedc Thank you sir.
@McJerkins4 жыл бұрын
@Deep Thoughts Herter's Target 115gr loads, Basspro when in stock
@crazyworld25704 жыл бұрын
@@McJerkins Thank you.
@dilldowschwagginz26743 жыл бұрын
Dude, I'm sorry but your G19 is kinda fugly. I know you have a small fortune invested in it so disregard what I think about it.
@Renaldo135 Жыл бұрын
millennial.
@overlandedc Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry what?
@veloh2 жыл бұрын
gross! it's not a cz but usa clone, ewww
@DarlingEbony3 жыл бұрын
Did you have to get suppressor height sights as back up once you put the holosun on?
@overlandedc3 жыл бұрын
You don't have to. Some like the idea I personally don't as I feel they defeat the purpose of the clear sight picture that a red dot gives you. I like lower 1/3 personally