Hereditary: The Complete History of King Paimon | Horror History

[@whatthehorror]

Wow the episode turned out great! I can't thank you enough for the amazing opportunity and it was a joy to work on this with you. I've not met many people who work as hard on a project as you do. Also thank you for making me finally watch this incredible movie. Congrats again on 1 million 👏 it's so well deserved!

[@locomadman]

If CZ is vouching for you, you’ve got yourself +1 subscriber! Keep up the good work, and we’ll see see you at a million subs too before terribly long. ✌🏽

[@whatthehorror]

@@locomadman thank you so much!

[@faithruckdeschel1294]

Ur collaboration with the Professor was awesome!!! I immediately subbed to ur channel and look forward to watching ur videos!!! It also helps that u both united to shed lots of in-depth light on this movie for me because I missed so much just being freaked out between Charlie's clicking, her head being decapitated by the pole(poor baby, all she wanted was some air)the brother being so traumatized by the pole incident, and not telling his parents "Oh and by the way, Charlie's head is on route WTF???" when the mom literally loses her mind/head, the naked elderly ppl(Nobody wants to see Nana and Pop Pop's goodies 😧😭)or ANYBODY NetFlix an Chillin on the walls like spiders? 🤣😂 Also, the grandmothers from the movies, "HEREDITARY" "The Visit" "Paranormal Activity" etc., makes me really happy that my own grandmothers were sweet and didn't promise any of us grandchildren, to any demons? 😃🤗

[@whatthehorror]

@@faithruckdeschel1294 thank you do much! I look forward to seeing you over on my channel. And you're right; people talk about creepy kids but what about the whole sub genre of creepy grandma's

[@tattedupluv]

New subscriber from this video! Excited to see your content!

[@danielettorre1239]

I heard the director describe this movie as “the story of a generations long cult ritual from the point of view of the sacrificial lamb.” It was the first movie that’s terrified me in forever

[@issac2939]

The end part was among the most terrifying shit I've ever watched.

[@evanbelisle8464]

@@issac2939 it was deeply unsettling every way I viewed it. This movie is a masterpiece.

[@littleoldmanboy]

He also describes the movie as predominantly a family drama with the horror being kinda secondary

[@Gigachad-fq2rg]

which makes it even scarier@@littleoldmanboy

[@thecockman]

@@issac2939 ngl? Rest of the movie was really spooky. Last 5 minutes were kinda funny. But I think the ending was supposed to be a lil funny, just cause of how ridiculous it was from his perspective.

[@sk.calico]

Peter begging Annie while she was banging her head on the trap door, calling her "Mommy" really broke my heart. He didn't have a great relationship with her and was almost an adult but he was so broken and terrified in that moment that he reverted to a child-like state of desperation. It shows a great deal before he is ultimately primed and possessed.

[@le_petit_calimero]

Yes, same here. The writers (and Alex Wolff) have done a really great job of showing how Peter becomes more and more vulnerable throughout these horrific events leading up to his possession. The way Peter slaps himself saying “Wake up, wake up,” the look on his face when he looks up and sees his mom under the roof, sawing her own head off, that pure dread and disbelief in his eyes when he sees his mom like that, staring at him... I've seen a lot of horror movies in my life, but the way Alex Wolff acted in all those scenes really got me pretty hard (not to mention the car crash scene, what a great job on that). To be honest, I don't know if I've ever been able to put myself into a horror movie character they way i could with Peter. This movie is such a disturbing masterpiece.

[@RedArrow808]

@@le_petit_calimerolife is still more gruesome, just turn on the news.

[@hippiecheezburger5457]

I really can’t imagine another guys playing Peter but Alex, I really think he was the victim in this movie it’s so sad, his mother shouldn’t have treated him that way but any mother would act like that

[@wlnyuh2330]

@@le_petit_calimerook now you just meat riding

[@shanzowa9825]

I laughed when i saw her bang her head, cuz i thought she's knocking it with a hand. Like we normally do

[@lalakuma9]

What I find so disturbing about this movie is how the grandmother started a family with every intention of selfishly abusing/sacrificing her children and grandchildren. Even without the supernatural stuff, there are people who are like that in real life.

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

Lala is that iron man as an iron in your profile pic lmao

[@thecoolcarhd4402]

wheres your evidence

[@squirtdemon]

@@thecoolcarhd4402 did u watch the movie???

[@Thalia_Itzel22]

My Sister’s Keeper vibes

[@DR.EGGHead]

Yea that’s nothing new humans have been doing this for a very long time loll

[@choshow86]

I love how peter had zero freeze response as soon his mom growled he immediately broke into a full sprint

[@senju31]

Lol I laughed at how he took off like an athlete

[@crazierthan-u7571]

Yes, these darned kids! They can run like rodents. I could swear I saw a little Roadrunner cloud when Peter burned off.

[@grandmasgopnik9642]

Yeah I feel bad I wouldn’t have the strategy to run I’d probably have decked anything that made noise I’m jumpy already 😅 and tbh at this point in the movie yeah we about on the same terms with our moms so I wouldn’t have felt too bad lol. That much freaky shit goin on, sorry blud my ass would’ve been gone calling a wellness visit from the closest 7/11 😂 good luck 👌

[@J2U85]

I guess it was easy cuz she didn’t fuck with him like that lol

[@choshow86]

@senju31 he went from shit on yourself still, to running a 4.2 with no in between 🤣🤣🤣

[@weareone1575]

So also really interesting is that Paimon is the rival of Haziel, the angel of forgiveness and reconciliation. This is fitting because a huge theme in the movie is that the characters find it impossible to forgive eachother because of the circumstances (ex: Annie sleepwalking and nearly lighting her children on fire, something Peter could never forgive her for)

[@hippiecheezburger5457]

Every day there is a new reason to be like wtf really?! How did Ari Aster even do this? Definitely the most incredible authentic director of film of our generation

[@doodmcswood507]

@@hippiecheezburger5457 Bro probably had diagrams. Evidence boards and shit.

[@rahmahchowdhury4856]

I really like this fact because I always want to believe there is a way to survive all horror movies. This fact makes my headcannon that if the family had been able to forgive each other, they may have been able to attain some protection from Paimon and the cult.

[@cassandraunheeded]

Insightful. Thanks.

[@ilovepeoplebro]

To be honest it is pretty fucking difficult to forgive your parents for trying to subconsciously set you on fire

[@slouch186]

i really appreciate ari aster's willingness to be open about the movie and explain details. seems uncommon in the industry

[@diskeyes]

It’s a double edged sword. I love that he helps us understand, but I also genuinely love David Lynch’s stance on he won’t explain anything he creates, so it’s up to you to interpret.

[@arete7884]

@@diskeyes the thing is Lynch goes all over the place and doesnt always produce a congruent picture that makes sense with all details being connected well

[@diskeyes]

@@arete7884 I disagree, but I understand

[@MegamaXX500]

@@diskeyes that’s not a double edged sword

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

Most people don't want a film that makes you think, they want a movie that doesn't. (MCU)

[@FourEyesFive]

The guy who gives Peter the weed is a cult member seen in the treehouse at the end, so he for sure was weakened by herbs. He has the ponytail.

[@Petaurista13]

good catch

[@jeambeam3173]

So many little details like that spread throughout the movie is what makes it great

[@kellymcphaul2793]

Whaaaat nice catch.

[@kittnz0859]

when you smell that ZAZAS

[@salladss]

@@kittnz0859 when that zaza so good, it summons one of the kings of hell

[@OliviaLovesPugs]

My favourite part about the ending is just how absolutely emotionless Paimon is once he finally has his male host; the cultists are overjoyed at their success after so long, and hopeful that he will shower them in his thankfulness for dedicating their entire lives to giving him what he wants. But “thankful” is a human emotion. PEOPLE feel thankful. Paimon is a demon. He feels nothing, no emotion, just that things have been “set right” by giving him the male body he’s entitled to. He has absolutely NO reason to want to help them or even associate with them now, they’ve served their purpose and given him what he couldn’t get for himself. They have nothing left they can offer him. Those cultists were absolutely moronic to trust a demon to be honourable and thankful. And besides, all those “long years” those cultists spent trying? Well what’s the lifespan of a human to a demon who’s existed for centuries, but a blip in time? I like to think that after the successful possession of Peter, Paimon either just abandoned the cult to go and do whatever he wants and gave the cult absolutely nothing, or killed them all for a laugh. At the end of the day, no one won, except Paimon. “Deals with the devil”, as they say.

[@grimmywizard]

Paimon: wtf am I doing on this realm? These damn mortals are wicked and keep summoning me

[@wqsnsr8]

Following devil is a lose lose situation, only fool will indulge in that

[@lisalambert3275]

Not entirely true, it is said that Paimon has to be truthful to any questions given by the summoner and that a “working” relation is built between the two. I think it’s therefore they chose Paimon and not another demon as those might not want to help/serve the conjurer, unlike Paimon who will/might

[@OliviaLovesPugs]

@@lisalambert3275 if there’s one thing devils have been famous for, it’s twisting words. He might have answered them in a way that wasn’t exactly false, but gave them a false impression/implication.

[@mehrabislamarnab1675]

​@@lisalambert3275there can be loopholes like what if the summoner is dead? or if the summoner has to be alive for this whole thing to work.... what if they lose their tongue and can't talk anymore. just some things i can think if i were in paimon's place. being an ancient demon, i bet he can think of far cooler ways to torture them

[@FireandBlood161]

My favorite little detail: In the scene where Peter is smoking with his friends under the bleachers. He starts having a panic attack and says he can’t breathe. One of his friends that he was smoking with can later be seen during the ending kneeling before Peter. Implying that this friend put herbs in Peters weed similar to how Joan did with Annie’s cup. He’s the one with the long hair and manbun. Once you notice, it’s impossible to miss.

[@MrKingtyrant05]

I saw that too. It's so messed up

[@amberlache92]

Whattttt!!!!! I knew that smoking scene was something but I didn't know what. Def gonna have to re-watch.

[@GrimsGhostG59]

The whole movie is a cult conspiracy. Because Annie, and peters friend and there’s other characters that can be seen through the movie

[@BenJaminn90]

Wow

[@NemesisEP1]

@Connor Huntington watch out and take care.

[@DeeJayResist]

The click that Charlie made was a sound Camel riders made to the camel to move forward or in a certain direction. Charlie, Annie, and Peter were the Camels while possessed. They were just transportation for Paimon

[@Mike-xp8zc]

Holy hell... Never realized that

[@EvilEggCracker]

is this true or did you make it up? can you show me some evidence or a clip?

[@skylarjune1635]

@@EvilEggCracker 24:40 they mention the clicking sound Charlie makes

[@a7x_nomadiceagle482]

And in the picture Paimon shows him riding a camel, yoooo this movie is hella smart

[@KGB.83]

Not really. My cousin is blind and makes clicks with his mouth to know what's around him.. clicks sounds can be used for any reason.. it's like comparing it to someone whistling. Ya bonehead..lol Fucking ignorant 😒

[@kevinnelson198]

To confirm your suspicions that Joanie doesn’t have a grandson. The scene where Joan see and tells Annie in the store parking lot to come over for the séance. You can see a chalkboard in a store box in the back of her car! She just bought it!

[@mrybird4044]

Is the chalkboard a reference to something later? I don’t remember it for some reason and/or it’s significance

[@sepronioruiz-valuroso6715]

I think Joanie did have a Grandson and her sons and grandsons deaths weren't accidental her son might have found out his Mother (Joanie) was a part of this cult and figured out her intentuon to sacrifice the son so the father intentionally drowned then both kind of like the older brother hanging himself to stop Paimon from possessing him

[@DeeJayResist]

Joanie lied to Annie. She bought the chalkboard that day at the art supplies place and during the seance she tells the spirit that she brought it's favorite board or something along those lines. Insinuating she's had the board since before her grandchilds death.

[@mrybird4044]

@@DeeJayResist thank you!

[@kevinnelson198]

@@DeeJayResist boom yeah exactly what I said

[@ryandaddario1393]

The guy who played Peter is such a great actor, that scene when paimon posses him in class felt so real and terrifying.

[@plumeriathelegend1010]

Apparently he actually broke his nose for that scene- no wonder it felt real

[@robertmtz94]

He’s a kid actor lol Nickelodeon. The naked brothers band.

[@ashleighstratmann7783]

I got to say, the actress who played Annie was amazing especially how she went from hysterical to blank face when Paimon took over her character. It reminded me of an episode of Killer Kids where a kid was acting hysterical after killing his parents claiming he was sleep walking the whole time while everyone was watching, but when he was in a cop car the cam recording the kid showed that when the kid thought no one was watching he turned off the hysterics in a snap. The fact actress that played Annie reminded me of that is amazing.

[@schoolinJOO]

she’s one of the worlds greatest actresses; and her enthusiasm about the art makes any project she is in SO exciting. she really enjoys what she does

[@ashleighstratmann7783]

@@schoolinJOO No arguments here.

[@ashleighstratmann7783]

@@schoolinJOO As the officer in that Killer Kid case I mention said, the ability to turn on and off emotions like that is disturbing. So it was a nice touch in the scene of Paimon possessing Annie.

[@ArgentPendragon]

Her name is Toni Collette

[@ashleighstratmann7783]

@@ArgentPendragon Thanks. I got to say I'm better at remembering actor's faces than names.

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Only after watching this that I realize why Hereditary is such a masterpiece of a movie, the amount of research and attention to detail that the writers did throughout the movie is astonishing.

[@linkinlog8543]

honestly same. The amount of information viewers had in front of them is astounding. But, the fact that most aren’t interested in the demonic and such, they would never know. It’s absolutely brilliant. The viewers had the answers to what was going on in front of them, but without proper knowledge, they wouldn’t know a damn thing.

[@DWN-024ShadowMan]

And hella scary if you ask me 😰

[@Romans5_3-4]

Thats because the whole of hollywood since its inception practise the rituals of the occult. This occultism and worship of satan seeps its way into ALL of government and the elite. This stems back to Babylon and the Cabal.

[@thecabin3995]

Idk if I’d call it a masterpiece more like obsessed

[@rigbyzen2417]

don't get me wrong, there's nothing astonishing, If you are going to do a movie the least you can do is make a good research

[@phianthony91]

I always thought Annie sleepwalking was the opposite of what you said. That it was her subconscious mind that was resisting paimon by well, killing everyone.

[@GrandDawggy]

You are correct and the video is wrong

[@andrewquick4176]

AGREED! The video is incorrect

[@lunacouer]

That's what I thought too. She even said "I was trying to save you!!", which means she somehow knew that death would be better for them than being possessed by a demon. It's more like Paimon woke her up to stop her from lighting the match.

[@stvbrsn]

This. And also what the other respondents said.

[@dmitritrs4867]

It would make more sense indeed, well done! thanks for that

[@Dramatello]

And yet the most supernatural thing in this movie was actually the acting. Phenomenal and one of the best I’ve seen, not to mention in the horror genre.

[@ghost1fer]

fun fact: charlies death is actually eerily close to a real true crime case about two drunk boys. one was in the backseat of the car sticking his head out of the window while the other drove. the driver was so drunk he didn’t notice his friends body or blood covered clothes till the next morning.

[@katrinamack444]

what’s the name of the case?

[@ghost1fer]

@@katrinamack444 just search francis brohm, loads of articles about him

[@doffydonquixote4723]

Jesus.....yikes

[@BrownCookieBoy]

There is a recording of a drunk woman reaching out from the window, her head hits a pole.

[@SirFooplesTheThird]

@@BrownCookieBoy I saw that! It's brutal

[@desolatedragon9872]

Peter's actor Alex Wolff is phenomenal in this movie. His character's descent into madness as Paimon slowly takes over him is extremely chilling due to his performance. His blank stare at the end of the movie was one of the scariest parts to me, because he makes it clear that its no longer Peter there, but the demon thats been trying to get ahold of him ever since he was born. Also, Wolff stated in an interview that he had to get therapy both during and after the movies production due to the mental toll it was having on him playing the traumatized character. If that isnt dedication to the art, i dont know what is.

[@JaceDeanLove]

What a wimp

[@EddieZ33HR]

This.

[@powdermonkey9300]

I rewatched it with my mom and she didn't find it that scary, she was just worrying about Peter the entire movie

[@ricardoh87]

Method acting is a hell of a drug

[@alyasfukename3355]

I can't imagine doing that for a production of that size. I nearly went nuts diving into a character for a small video project I worked on. It can really get to you, especially if you relate at all to the character.

[@MVPerry]

Hereditary is one of the only horror movies that actually scared me and I love it

[@Levisonme]

Mvperry? Didn't know you watch this type of video

[@theziraa]

damn you're here

[@gojoluvr28]

hi mvperry

[@cleocatra9324]

Not scary but also horrified me in a way i wish i could unsee.

[@ogoshikoshi1527]

Watch smile. Just came out. Tell me if hereditary is still number one.

[@Strawbs_36]

The only thing I disagree with is Paimon possessing Annie and subsequently "sleepwalking" and trying to set Charlie and Peter on fire. Why would the demon try and destroy its potential/future host? I think this may have been Annie's subconscious trying to stop Paimon, she's been around the demon and cult (although not realising) all her childhood so she may be subconsciously aware of what's happening? Maybe just a thought

[@kirskies12]

i agree. by trying to get rid of both of them there’s a potential that the curse can “end”

[@jayzenstyle]

The attempts were meant to increase Peter's paranoia, which the video explains that sanity reduction = better suited host for possession.

[@nonautemrexchristus5637]

Late to the comment but it is pretty clear that he wasn't planning on setting them on fire and killing them, it was solely a way to break the trust of the family so he'd have a way to possess Peter. Demons work in long term plans, this is just one example

[@nichtus5200]

The final shot gave me the impression that just as the family was oblivious to the cult and the cult desperate for Paimon's teachings, Paimon seems at something of a loss himself, perhaps unsure how to give these humans what they want. It's the blind leading the blind, another sort of endless despair.

[@teddygaming393]

The thackdog

[@teddygaming393]

Predilailu

[@kellymcphaul2793]

Great thoughts.

[@Daveaintreal]

Maybe because despite everything going in his favor, he still had doubts it would work and never planned ahead.

[@olivialillegard2540]

i kinda thought of it as how he’s a sociopath and all (it feels weird using human pathology to describe a demon but u know what i mean), he’s showing no reaction to the fact that these humans are his pawns and they brought him on earth which i’m assuming was the first goal to achieve an even bigger end goal. the cult thought they were the ones in control using the family as their pawns, now they have a fucking demon who owes them nothing and doesn’t feel anything for them hence the blank stare. they’re so happy to see him but have absolutely no idea what Paimon’s intentions for them are. he is not thankful nor is he angry or sad or confused because he is an emotionless demon with only his own self interest in mind. it’s stupid of the cult to think that bringing this demon into earth would benefit them in any way with very little evidence to suggest that. very interesting to think about!

[@therealharshlycritical]

im not convinced paimon setup the sleep walking thing. i think the mother was somehow subconsciously or paranormally trying to stop paimon from taking over her son. just like the older brother going insane then killed himself was also a move that stopped paimon

[@VisceralCarbon]

The fact that the person he possesses has to be decapitated to move to another is terrifying

[@Petaurista13]

@@VisceralCarbon wait, so what would happen if person died for another cause and the cremated the body? Paimon would be trapped forever as you can't decapitate ashes?

[@jeambeam3173]

@@Petaurista13 the spirit would probably drift off into the cosmos to where you could just recall it at some point. As technically you burn the body you are still separating the head from the body

[@therealharshlycritical]

@@Petaurista13 in the movie after charlie died there is a blue spirit thing in a few scenes that's paimon. He will drift like that until he had a body

[@agdoren]

That's how I understood that scene. I wanna say there was even a discussion between her and Peter about it.

[@shelbyb9056]

The fact that this is the first feature film that Ari Astor directed is insane. Also where is Toni Collette’s Oscar?! 🧐 She’s amazing in this film. Her depiction of parental grief, desperation and resentment is so powerful and viscerally acted. She is a gem and deserves way more accolades! Who else could have delivered the “face on your face” line so perfectly 💀 And her monologue in the support group is absolutely mesmerizing to behold. Give 👏🏻 Toni 👏🏻 Collette 👏🏻 her 👏🏻 Oscar 👏🏻

[@videogameguy3722]

Ari aster has made short 15 minute movies in the past which are really good, "something strange about the Johnson's" is one to check out and one of his most shocking ones if u really liked hereditary. The actos in his shorts act really good too.

[@kellymcphaul2793]

Yes. She was insane.

[@lenas7112]

She was awesome but do they ever give horror movies Oscars?

[@shelbyb9056]

@@lenas7112 unfortunately horror is way too often overlooked in favor of emotional dramas. I hope the recent fascination with the spooky & macabre continues to grow and we can begin to credit horror masterpieces/performances with the recognition they deserve. I think comedy often gets overlooked as well.

[@ciscornBIG]

Stop the clapping thing. It is obnoxious

[@Elrond_Hubbard_1]

There's a lot of things like the words scratched into the bed frames, or the symbol painted with blood on the wall, where you would assume that someone from the cult snuck in at some point and put them there. In horror movies, you never see the victim get home half an hour earlier than expected and unknowingly walk in on the villain who's halfway though setting up the scary thing. It'd be awkward. You get home and there's some guy in your living room with a bunch of art supplies and he's like _'Umm.. damn.. I thought I'd have at least another hour before you got back._

[@methuselah8885]

That actually basically happens at the end. Peter tries to escape to the attic and walks in on two naked cultists doing their thing. And one of them just waves seemingly without wanting to threaten him.

[@con.x]

I think the reason during the seance that Paimon did not just possess Peter is that Peter's soul was still inside the body. Paimon did not want to share a body, he uses Annie to get him to die in the fall out the window. You see his "shadow" leave his body before the light enters it.

[@misterbobby8913]

Yeah I think that's what the movie signaled also

[@jazz105]

I thought the shadow was from the orb of light which was Paimon but it could be Peter honestly

[@TMane999]

The shadow was the shadow of Annie's headless body levitating to the treehouse

[@liamwright2510]

Honestly I think Peter dying the way he did was possibly the best outcome at that point, I mean he just watched his dad burn to death and his mum cut her head off with a wire, there is no way he would ever have recovered mentally from that even if he had escaped. Plus death from impact/blunt force trauma, seems way better than those two options.

[@synesthesia.aesthetic]

​@@TMane999I never noticed that!

[@Insanityfan00110]

Hereditary is just on another level of horror. Edit:When I meant another level I mean a high tier not the best horror movie so don't start a war I'm not your boss but still you can disagree with it just don't be hating on it or anyone, thank you.

[@miguelcastillo7168]

Facts 😳 lol

[@e.t.2914]

You mean Hereditary is...another *generation* of horror?

[@orllybish4718]

No its not. Exorcist did it first.

[@istartedajoke1704]

Thats a big fat CAP....the movies ok..but other level,? Naw

[@omguho]

@@orllybish4718 did what?

[@cb7235]

The way the movie actually used real life historical examples of witchcraft and demonology and not just typical horror tropes of these things gave it a much more threatening feel. If a real demonic cult existed you’d expect it to be like this.

[@Romans5_3-4]

They do exist. Freemasonry.

[@DarkLight1133]

More like the Vatican and Kabbalists. Actually I’m sure there are tons of these cults including freemasonry.

[@misterbobby8913]

@@Romans5_3-4 Bingo

[@anasdomain9994]

The thing is people actually believe it and will reenactment this horrible kind of stuff to summon a demon that doesn’t even exist

[@DarkLight1133]

@@anasdomain9994 You don't know what does and doesn't exist. People are way too arrogant. Our hubris will cost us dearly lol.

[@justine7143]

Definitely more tragic because we know that there was absolutely nothing Anne could have done to save her whole family. The amount of work this cult put into bringing forth King Paimon was so incredibly meticulous and inescapable 😢

[@zen4ever3]

Not exactly…it’s quite obvious that being able to stay calm and collected is the perfect way to deal with the creature itself. Plus being in a church, synagogue or mosque would probably do wonders on rescuing the mental strain and you could easily call for help from a priest, rabbi or imam to solve this whole issue. Me personally I would call all 3 just to be EXTRA SURE.

[@JaceDeanLove]

​@@zen4ever3cause staying calm when a demon is attacking you is a walk in the park

[@yelrahkcorb]

@@zen4ever3Are you associated with any of those Abrahamic religions? Just curious

[@kittykat7971]

The only way to defeat paimon was to have had killed his vessel which was Peter

[@JaceDeanLove]

@Humdeeheyyahawikiahaye um I’m an atheist so all of that was false

[@twoforteastephanie9270]

I think the story Joan told Annie about her son and grandson drowning was totally true and that she and her family was a contender for bringing king Paimon into this world just like Annie’s family. She unfortunately failed.

[@metalmanexetreme]

A servant of Paimon, are we?

[@alligarcia815]

I don’t think so, I think the Graham bloodline is what was needed for the ritual, hence the name Hereditary

[@mrdavman13]

@@alligarcia815would make no sense for it to be the graham bloodline. The dad had nothing to do with anything.

[@christianwarner1691]

​@@mrdavman13not the graham bloodline, I think he just meant the mothers bloodline. I don't remember what the maiden name was

[@young23D]

@@christianwarner1691 I believe it was Leigh

[@darthcarrots2581]

1. Annie’s sleepwalking to me was proof that she subconsciously distrusted her mother and believed her brothers letter. In her conscious mind she didn’t know why she avoided her mother, why she was so adamant that her mother be nowhere near her son. So subconsciously Annie KNOWS her mother brings evil, and in a desperate attempt to save her son she tries to kill him. I believe she gave Charlie to her mother because she herself was safe, believing her mother to only be targeting men. 2. Paimon lived as Charlie from birth. He’s not compatible with a female body, so to me Paimon likely had no real memory of who he was when he was within her (ie. he didn’t know who he was). I think he keeps this memory lapse throughout the movie, even when he is Peter at the end he seems lost and confused. Annie speaking as Charlie proves this to me, as Annie was possessed by Paimon at the time, meaning Paimon was confused and believed Annie to be his mother as well (as to me he only has memories of life as Charlie and not as a demon).

[@linkinlog8543]

oh goddamn. I really like that second point you make. If that’s true, then he could have been watching his, what he believed to be, whole family get murdered and ruined, only for him to exist in his, again what he believed to be, older brother. In the ending scene, Peter/Paimon definitely looked lost, confused, and absolutely heartbroken as well. Like he lost everything and his, supposed, family and he finds out he is a king? This movie reminds me a lot of coraline, where there were so many little details shoved into it, right under everyone’s noses. And it takes years of uncovering to showcase a true masterpiece

[@lisarivet498]

Oh i looove this outlook

[@pdruiz2005]

@@linkinlog8543 And "Coraline" came out roughly 10 years before this movie. That film was also about an otherworldly demon preying on a psychologically weak family so that she could feed on child souls. Notice that in "Hereditary," Paimon and the cultists kept erasing or gouging out Peter's eyes in photos and portraits. The same with "Caroline," where the she-demon took children's eyes and sewed buttons in their place. So damn creepy, that both movies--though radically different--have the same underlying theme of demons striking and destroying a psychologically vulnerable family. And using mothers as the ultimate monsters against their own children.

[@GummyBear651]

This makes so much sense, and makes everything so much sadder

[@zo5679]

@@linkinlog8543 instead summoning demon to help the cult. They summoned demon who don't know his origin and only know that so called his family and realized that he is a demon king being summoned for some cult selfish desire and he decides to avenge all his "family" suffering to the cult or possibly humanity. Damn this could be a good story for villain origin.

[@princesscl67]

This movie is SO CREEPY and works so well. I have to say Toni Colette is the main reason it works for me. Her performance really raises the level of horror and pain. When she is grief stricken I feel it. When she is angry I feel it. Her facial expressions are so convincing. She is totally underrated imo.

[@teddygaming393]

Freaks disabes

[@teddygaming393]

NW

[@KingOfGaymes]

Her grieving parts were the scariest to me, it felt like I was genuinely watching a woman go through the agonizing pain of losing her child. Like when she goes out to the car and screams seeing Charlie’s body it’s absolutely horrifying, and you don’t even see her. You only hear her. That scream is haunting and so is when she’s crying hysterically in her room over charlie dying. It’s so visceral and real. Part of the reason I’ll never watch this movie again despite how good it is

[@GettinJiggyWithGenghis]

She absolutely owned this role, carried the movie frankly, I hope she knows she was perfect in this, hope she's proud

[@GettinJiggyWithGenghis]

@@KingOfGaymesmy dad had died the year before I watched so the grief hit really hard

[@shoosh222]

I don’t believe that Charlie was “replaced” by Paimon, as you mentioned, but instead she was “displaced”, as Ari Aster indicated in his interview. Charlie and Paimon were both occupying the same body, but Charlie remained a spectator while Paimon was in charge!

There is a chilling detail about Peter's reflection smiling back at him. Annie says in the dinner table scene that Peter always has "that f*cking face on your face so full of disdain...". This probably means that Annie was always seeing Peter's face looking at her in a different way, just as he sees himself differently in the reflection in the classroom.

[@bluemoon4944]

good point...

[@User-435ggrest]

Yeah, I was thinking about that earlier. It adds yet another layer of the evil presence throughout the movie.

[@S_o__S_i_c_k]

Your reaching

[@Amberstarrbanks]

Ohhhh! Good one!

[@goldenedits5355]

Holyyyy shit never thought about that

[@seaveyjack2972]

the fact that the soundtrack incorporates the sounds of paimon is incredible

[@gamble777888]

Honestly it's a bit of a stretch on this video here. Those are definitely not trumpets sounds like strings.

[@erikanorman928]

@@gamble777888 those are trumpets lol

[@Saturnm0ss]

@@gamble777888its not a stretch at all

[@sunfishasmr]

Those are definitely string patches on a synth lmao not trumpets

[@nikaleve1657]

Does it though?

[@ilfrappanto]

Hereditary to this day is the only horror movie that genuinely scared the shit out of me. It’s a masterpiece

[@liamwright2510]

@@mylespoun9709midsommar was a bit generic though, Heriditary is by far superior.

[@guitarguru.3572]

The VVitch is really good, if you haven’t seen it.

[@babyvia6712]

I only just now noticed the girl in Peter’s class who sits in front of him, who turns around to look at him when the unnamed student says “I find it more tragic, because Heracles couldn’t have avoided his fate.” She doesn’t smile at him, or nod, or frown, like she’s flirting or angry or waiting for him to speak, she stares at him, as if she’s gesturing with her eyes to him that the things being said in the class also apply, the way you look over at your friend when someone is talking about something you’ve talked about in private. Like she KNOWS he’s avoiding the signs, and he’s not listening, and that he’s powerless to avoid his fate. I’ve seen this movie and reviews of this movie multiple times and only just noticed it.

[@disf5178]

Woah.. So, you are saying she was also a cult member?

[@censoreverything8072]

I don't think Paimon was pretending to be Charlie in the possession. Just because Paimon possessed Charlie since birth doesn't mean that Charlie never existed/ceased to exist. Either she was still deep down in there, tangled up with and dominated by Paimon, or was floating around outside Charlie's body after being expelled. Either way, her spirit still exist. I think she genuinely entered Annie's body for a moment.

[@RozehKakes]

I feel this too, because her voice when she/Paimon overtakes Annie, Charlies voice is different. its far clearer than how she usually mumbles the dialogue she does speak during her time onscreen, and it feels like its a more pure or less beaten down version of Charlie. Her demeanor and everything implied from the family talking to/about Charlie shows her being more than a usually odd, shy child. She borders on disturbed, and has behaviors that might even land her on the autism spectrum. Her having behavioral issues or straight up mental issues continues theme of the family's passed down illness, and/or how Paimon might be taking his frustration out on this weak young female host (almost punishing her for being alive, but thats just my inference/headcannon) Anywho, the idea that her spirit, the much younger girl or toddler Charlie was, whatever little bit of childhood she mightve had if any, is struggling against Paimon It feels that way throigh her expression through art and crafting, although the usage of certain figures and materials (like, i dunno, a pigeons skull removed after it hit a window) are a bit too unconventional for a young girl to be using, and might still be Paimons influence What chills me is the more i consider all the circumstances and all the fine details, the more disturbing it feels cause who knows how far demonic influence can go for everything the Graham family knows?

[@kerbystar]

Yeah you are right if you pause at 9:17 you can see the director says their was a real Charlie but that she was displaced (I’m assuming he means her soul ) from birth!

[@adamsmasher9769]

At the end it felt like paimon was just confused and didnt want to be there

[@antares5561]

@@kerbystar Yes! I interpreted something similar. I thought once the real Charlie was Paimon free as a spirit (after her decapitation), she was trying to stop the curse from being fulfilled, but unfortunately was unsuccessful. To me, it almost seemed like the part of Charlie that was still her while alive, knew how the future would unfold, and in a sense subconsciously sacrificed herself by going to the party, or the will of the cult would be fulfilled.

[@linusjones2872]

I think that Paimon and Charlie are interlinked. The same, although different.

[@LegionIvory]

The soundtrack for 'Hereditary' is absolutely terrifying. Easily the best part of the film.

[@kevinalford2165]

Especially at the end in the tree house

[@finalascent]

@@kevinalford2165 Some of that music was used early in the Anthony Bourdain documentary "Road Runner"

[@oscwildle1]

Colin stetson composed and performed most of the music alone

[@beemelonhead1]

You should check out some of Colin Stetson's live performances. He plays the saxophone and the noises he gets out of it are truly amazing. A lot of what you hear in the soundtrack is a saxophone. He tapes a pick up to his throat and incorporates throat singing and circular breathing while playing the sax, it's wild.

[@frayfray4496]

Yeah I'm gonna watch with headphones now.I'm terrified. I've seen this movie serval times

[@jamesbarker9895]

This was one of those rare films which actually made me look at the dark corners of my house with anxiety. And the final scene with Charlie's rotting severed head on a dummy was just unbelievably creepy

[@nobo.314]

Her head on that statue and the headless bodies scared me the most 😭

[@graysonw8660]

Everyone who made this movie can eat shit for trying to entertain me with a little girls decapitated head while I already exist in a world abound with torture, suffering, and fear.

[@maniacal1870]

Wow. I'm actually even more impressed with this fantastic movie now knowing how much actual lore and mythos was put into it.

[@josecat436]

I was already deep into the goetic demon lore that when everything clicked it gave me chills at the ending

[@chrisvoa]

I have studied demonology for almost 35 years so at the very beginning of the movie, I noticed the sigil of Paimon immediately. I was a little annoyed as I knew what was going on and what needed to happen from the get go but was also quite elated for the exact same reason. Turned out to be the best horror movies I have ever seen with some scenes that will haunt me forever. Brilliant moofie.

[@username.not.known2473]

How have you kept yourself safe for so many years of study?

[@of5606]

lmao suffering from success

[@chrisvoa]

@@username.not.known2473 By not offering myself to any sacrifices and purely study. I am a paranormal investigator. I dont take any of my studies for granted. I am merely here to help others to banish malevolent entities from their home. So far it had been 100% succesful. But you have to know what you are dealing with which is where books like The lesser key of Sollomon are benefitial to. Hope this nanswers your question. Thanks and stay safe.

[@chrisvoa]

@@of5606 No suffering. No great success either. Every cleansing or excorcism I do for free. I won't be taking money from people in need. If anything I ask them to donate to a charity for things like Kids with no lu ches or uniforms. Underprivileged kids, etc.

[@ladyseeker2927]

It's interesting, but I just can not believe in these things. I loved the movie for the plot, the care with the details. But I can't put myself to believe in other worlds

[@Toreju7240]

One thing I thought was interesting was when peter's body contorts and slams itself in the classroom, his arm is pointed upwards and hand bended forward also with his finger pointed a certain way (north west). Very creepy yet fitting touch to all the symbolism in this movie.

[@sagemybrain6740]

It mimics paimon's staff at the end, in the treehouse

[@MrKamillordo]

@@sagemybrain6740 I was looking if someone has already pointed that out! Good catch!

[@shainewhite2781]

Hereditary is one of the craziest supernatural horror films ever made! The scene where the sister getting decapitated was one of the horrifying yet saddest moments in the movie.

[@locomadman]

Welp.. it’s definitely one of the movies ever made, I’ll give you that. It just still sticks in my craw that the whole movie could have been avoided if the deathly allergic child had remembered the one thing she needs to live.. 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️

[@ej4458]

@@locomadman I too agree that it is definitely one of the movies ever made.

[@leterz]

no. it really was not. i laughed genuinely

[@joshuabrucemellis7933]

Yep... definitely one of the movies ever made.

[@schultzy5892]

I had to shut my eyes in a few scenes cause I had no fucking idea on how fucked up snd horrifying this movie was lol had Some night terrors for a week about it

[@meg9599]

Maybe the decapitation is because Paimon has a masculine body but a feminine face. It shows the difference and the symbol of the head leaving the body could almost be seen as Paimon himself getting rid of his less than ideal feature

[@a7x_nomadiceagle482]

Honestly, I was surprised with how well Hereditary actually worked with the whole demon trope after all the conjuring movies and other crap and we actually got to see the demon succeed, im not a satanist but it's still interesting Edit: can we please keep the comments here civil? I’m not trying to trigger anyone, all I said was I don’t follow any kind of satanism, theistic or not, just cause I chose not to.

[@XDWASDX]

Hereditary also dove into Ars Goetia lore where most pop demon flicks just go with Satan for recognition.

[@a7x_nomadiceagle482]

@@XDWASDX I think that's awesome and I think the movie benefits because of it. If it was just regular old lucifer, the premise just seems like a rip off of the conjuring but the fact that this evil is cunning, independent, and relatively inescapable, it adds a bunch to the story

[@XDWASDX]

@@a7x_nomadiceagle482 Ars Goetia lore is absolutely underutilized. Dumb writers tend to thrive in Hollywood.

[@a7x_nomadiceagle482]

@@XDWASDX let's also not forget that Ars Goetia lore would add way more depth to the "evil entities" again with the conjuring, even tho Valak and Malthus are mentioned in Ars Goetia, they aren't explored or made special, hence they just seem like lucifer ripoffs. It would be so much cooler if Valak especially had more background lore as the setting in the nun was perfect

[@Dookieman1975]

I get what you mean about Lucifer rip offs but they kinda aren’t. They can’t be Lucifer rip offs when movies never really got what Lucifer was in the first place. He’s extremely egotistical and wanted a title that he not only couldn’t have but shouldn’t have. He took “no” terribly and felt entitled to being seen as god and decided if he couldn’t be the favorite or the one in charge just to be in charge, he would double down and become his dads biggest problem. And in all his pride and ego would think he actually stood a chance fighting and ended up bringing several others with him, then just for more pettiness decided he wanted to take all humans with him and have his subjects make them miserable instead of just admitting he doesn’t deserve the title and he’s just doing it for his own ego (which could’ve got him out of hell). He’s basically that one kid in the family who was the favorite but lost his sht when the new kid (Jesus) was the new best boy that got more attention, then when he got older threw a tantrum when his dad refused to buy him a fancy car when he already had a good car. But Hollywood just did “most powerful demon” and that’s it. The conjuring demons (and tbh any other demon in movies) are not actually Lucifer ripoffs, but are just demons that have their own wants and abilities that make them more unique but they all still feel like Hollywood demons while hereditary wants to make paimon more unique and calculative for something so arbitrary, and he even wins. Sorry for the essay

[@farhanfmx]

tbh, Hereditary went over my head when I watched it and didn't understand all the hype around the movie. The acting was great and the scenes creeper me out. But this detailing of the lore and background of the characters really makes me want to watch it again. Great video

[@kellymcphaul2793]

I love it, but glad to know all this info.

[@SpaghettiWithMeatSauce]

I really liked it the first time I watched it, but loved it even more when I watched it a second time because I was able to connect the dots better and noticed many things I didn't catch the first time.

[@courtneycherry5582]

Completely agree and very happy that this video was recommended to me.

[@TheNoSuchThingPodcast]

Me too. I had no idea what was going on

[@pevroberts]

I agree,, I was not a fan when it first came out but now I get why it was so good!

[@DivineKnight_115]

What do you think is more tragic? Not being able to fight back and your fate is sealed, or thinking you aren’t able to fight back only to realize you could have the whole time?

[@yourstrulykaai]

That’s a good one. Idk which one you choose😅

[@r.w7351]

The first option

[@p1glep]

Ooh that's a great question!! I feel like the second one is for me!

[@anasdomain9994]

Well if your realize it at the last second there’s a slight chance you could change it so that one’s better

[@p1glep]

@@anasdomain9994 That's kinds true. But imagine at the last second you start trying very hard but then you fail because it's too late. You realize that all that time you didn't know you could do anything is when you could have, and for me that's more tragic. not trying so say you're wrong! I just like to debate lol

[@onetwo9500]

28:40 According to wikipedia, paimon also has the power to know the past and the future, so i think thats why some of the diorama annie makes is something that she hasnt known yet but did happen or something that foreshadowed things

[@dandytv1510]

Just commenting to state this is genuinely one of the scariest horror flicks I've ever seen. The ending scene where his headless mother just floats up to the tree house is just terrifying imagery.

[@eatallnowsavenone4later342]

Yes,and hearing her head as it thumped on the ground. 🥺

[@thrashmetalgoddess]

That part messed me up inside. Disturbing as all hell.

[@Marcellowya]

@@thrashmetalgoddessbro fr I literally started praying to God

[@Superficialgallery]

In the classroom freakout scene, Peter's hand is making the bent at the wrist pointing gesture that Paimon makes in the picture in the book.

[@esoteric1070]

Going back to what peter's teacher asked, I personally believe that it's more tragic because the family is psychologically tortured, toyed with and brought to mental collapse/insanity and only one person recognized it as it was too late. If the family had been aware and the same outcome occurred it would be tragic, but the fact that they didn't know until it was too late/couldn't be stopped, to me, makes it more tragic

[@aureutraccoredge6227]

You didn't mention it, but your analysis makes me think again about the decapitations. I wonder if it's necessary in order for Paimon to be released from a host? Or at least his preferred method. Charlie was possessed the entire time and Paimon is released upon her death (via decapitation) and his next temporary host is Annie. then Annie did not only cut her own head off to freak Peter out, but to release Paimon since it was finally time for him to take his desired host. Great video!

[@egeodil4021]

Good point

[@bluemoon4944]

Excellent observation! I also want to point out that if Paimon is always conflicted by his female face (head) it makes sense that decapitation is part of the ritual because he's trying to get rid of the wrong "part" of his body.

[@mike7652]

The demon has a female head, three females decapitated. He hated having a female head, maybe that's part of it? Who am I to question a demon king's motives?

[@pdruiz2005]

My question here is--where was Paimon before Charlie was born? Was he in the grandmother? Another girl/woman? He just sort of pops out of nowhere and ends up in Charlie. But there's no explanation of where precisely was located before Charlie was born...

[@jazz105]

You know what, i think you're right because remember when Peter jumped out of the window in the end you can hear Annie cutting her head off quicker with the thread? Maybe that was Paimon trying to hurry up and get released from her body so he can possess Peter right away

[@ashleighstratmann7783]

According the script, a bird was also suppose to fly in to the funeral home and land in the rafters and watch what was going on as though also attending the grandmother's funeral. Annie and Steve noticed it and talked about how strange it was on the car drive home. I wonder since it's not uncommon to hear demons being at mutliple places at once as doppelgangers, the bird was Paimon's way to watch the funeral while Charlie/Paimon drew.

[@Gramercy_Stiffs]

...doppelganger

[@ashleighstratmann7783]

@@Gramercy_Stiffs thanks

[@knoeppe]

@@Gramercy_Stiffs it's actually "Doppelgänger"

[@Will-helm]

But Paimon was Charlie so Paimon was already at the funeral. Why would he need to turn into a bird to attend a funeral that he is already at?

[@ashleighstratmann7783]

@@Will-helm Read carefully to what I said. So Charlie can continue to draw while paying attention to the funeral. If you seen the movie you know Steve stopped Charlie's drawing so she pay attention to the funeral so as far as he knows she can't do both as just Charlie

[@vampirixninja]

Great episode but one thing. I don't think Paimon was the one taking over when Annie sleepwalked if she killed the children Paimon would have nowhere to go. At one point she said, "I was not trying to kill you I was trying to save you".

[@endel12]

That was always my interpretation; she was subconsciously aware of the demon and was trying to kill the family to save them from Paimon.

[@yeah_yeahwhatever]

The reveal in this movie is one of the best things in horror ever. I love this movie, though rarely rewatch. The detail of the herbs in the milk was a jaw-dropper. Thanks, great video.

[@Kitty-om9il]

Heracles's biggest flaw was not arrogance, it was wrath, which was one trait that distinguished him from the other greek heroes, who's flaw was hubris. I'm just a big Mythology nerd, but I absolutely love these videos :D definitely subbing.

[@b3rdlala]

Yea the bit about Hercules being arrogant was a bit confusing. If Heracles, being a demigod, was being manipulated by a more powerful entity, being the goddess Hera, it would've been arrogant for him to think he could stop ether her or fate.

[@Kitty-om9il]

@@b3rdlala He was pretty selfless for the most part, all the people murdering was because of Hera or because they deserved it like Diomedes or through an accident, he cared a lot about his friends and family. I guess the biggest asshole moment of his, was when he tried to court princess Iole, not sure if you can classify that as arrogance, maybe in a way that he thought he deserves more than one wife, but that's as far as I can stretch it, I would just call that ''being an asshole'' regardless, he still got poisoned and died, becoming a god, in the end, marrying Hebe.

[@misterbobby8913]

Book of enoch, demigods are products of fallen angels with humans

[@Kitty-om9il]

@@misterbobby8913 Um, I am talking about Greek mythology not the bible stuff XD I never read the bible nor do I care to

[@RungaChunga]

31:12 is such a great demonstration of how awful and evil hyper religious cults can be. This woman that Peter has never met is standing there screaming at him to “get out” of his own body. As if he has no right to it and it should be Paimon’s for the taking. There are people in the real world who genuinely think and act this way, and that is one of the most terrifying things about this masterpiece of a film

[@kenthomas7471]

What's the real life comparison? I'd like to read about it a lil

[@howdidmynamechange945]

Imagine after the ritual paimon just goes "thanks now, i can finally live a normal life, as for the gold that's in lucifer's bank account" and just dips to return to school

[@newhappythoughts1628]

Sounds like such an anime story.

[@Itsgriffeys]

One of the sons friends can be seen in the end in the tree house along with the cult, you could probably assume when he has his panic attack while smoking weed under the bleachers with his friends, its really because his friend slipped the black herb into his weed

[@shelbyb9056]

Never noticed that! But weren’t they all smoking? Wouldn’t everyone start feeling off?

[@ghagzor]

@@shelbyb9056 no because only he is the target. Paimon doesn't want some scrub plebs body

[@liamwright2510]

Anyone else really feel for the dad, did his best to protect his kids and wife but couldn’t do anything to help them.

[@ricardoh87]

The dad could have easily driven away with Peter before sh*t hit the fan but he simped for Annie too much to do that

[@turqussy]

@@ricardoh87dawg i can tell your not married. he obviously loved his wife. when you love someone, you dont abandon them when shit gets tough. sickness and in health yknow? he isnt a simp, hes a married man who wants to help his wife because he knows shes going through a horrible time and what he thinks is a psychotic episode. the reason why hes so sympathetic is because hes a good and loving man who just wants the best for his weird family. when you’re in love, you’ll understand

[@nanamikenthoe]

Hereditary truly is one of the most terrifying movies ever made. Terrifying, yet brilliant. The details in this film are unbelievable. Ari Aster is an absolute genius and I hope to see much more from him!

[@emilybarclay8831]

Terrifying is the best way to describe it. It isn’t scary, it’s terrifying; they’re different emotions

[@thebarbaryghostsf]

His other film Midsommar was almost as good too.

[@nanamikenthoe]

@@thebarbaryghostsf yeah I’ve seen that, still prefer Hereditary

[@jase276]

It's no so much terrifying as just really, really well done. Definitely one of the best horror films in a long time.

[@pisswhistle5306]

Guess you've never seen Maid in Manhattan with J Lo then? Absolutely terrifying.

[@johnathantufano8068]

A little fun fact that I've learned about king paimon, is that depending on what source you read about him he has about 200 legions serving under him, meaning that he one of the big of hell and even if all his followers (both seen or off screen) that want to give a male vessel to him but king paimon doesn't want to control them all at once he could put one of his legions in the "orher" vessels that we might not see

[@danlajohn8967]

Zazas carved in the wall is actually a reference to Peter constantly blowing that loud

[@emmanuelwilliams4888]

Lmao

[@andrewcabaj7597]

Best comment

[@tektoastium7241]

Or about how the various cast were on that herb

[@shytguy]

Hereditary: worst grandma ever. Seriously she is a scary villain and we never even meet her. She was willing to sacrifice her whole family for paimon

[@joshjonson2368]

But it's worth it

[@melonking281]

@@joshjonson2368 no dont have you not seen the movie Summon stolas he's chill

[@monroerobbins7551]

Honestly, this whole movie is a roller coaster from start to finish, and it’s interesting to see the demon succeed in their mission. Sad, frightening, but interesting, and refreshing. And… honestly, that feeling of helplessness and being integral to the family’s fate, it makes it more of a gut punch, in the most disturbing and horrific way, and that’s bloody fascinating.

[@lazyken6468]

Well yeah, the demon finally decided to use the power of friendship

[@robertbobbypelletreaujr2173]

The ending to 'Hellraiser: Inferno' is the same level of messed up..

[@NurmaBP]

Idk, it feels like just like watching a bullying (anything related to cult always give me that abusive gaslitghting toxic vibe, very unpleasant) while you can't do anything to help. I'm frustating watching this movie, but curious. All I get from this movie and this video is the info how to avoid King Paimon to posseses you and recognize demon cult. I mean, if the MC survived, we might able to get info about how to kill Paimon and get rid demon cult. I think I watch too much Supernatural series 😂 because my react about horror movies always be like how Sam and Dean Winchester would kill the demon and annilihate the cult 😂😂

[@VendErre]

The demon didn't succeed. The Cult did. Peter/Charlie/Paimon's face at the very end reveals his opinion. It changes from a quiet optimism and bemusement to a horror at realizing he is bound. Being a demon bound to a cult of humans is rather like being in a relationship. It starts out nice with everyone bowing and doing all these cute things, but it slowly degrades from there. It is only human nature to begin to take for granted a 'friend' or a 'lover' or anything else, even a God or Demon King will be taken for granted in time.

[@lunacouer]

@@VendErre Wow, thank you for this. I've never been able to interpret Paimon's reaction at the end. It looked like...nothing. I was confused, asking "What is this face? Do demons just blank stare all the time? Did Alex Wolff suddenly lose his ability to act?" But you cleared it up. I just re-watched that scene with your comment in mind, and yup, now I see the "Oh s**t" reaction on his face, where his lips open up and his eyes get wider, as Joan rattles off her list of demands. I think it's the bandage on his nose that's made it a hard for me to interpret what's going on there. But yeah, hearing her say "You're gonna do this...and this...and this...and this...oh, and this...", he sees that he's not happily embodied. He's their slave. That makes it even _scarier._ This cult, who's been manipulating this family for three generations, is so powerful that they're not serving a demon - they're _manipulating him too._ It's one thing when it's a demon causing all this horror and suffering. It's a whole other when it's just regular ole people making the demon cause the suffering.

[@arthurfrost9004]

I'm pretty sure Painmon is a cute little guide in some game somewhere

[@abby_4125]

She’s from Genshin impact, my favorite travel guide 🥰

[@nepnep7207]

I knew Paimon was suspicious when I fished her out of the water and then she just started helping for no reason

[@chillobsidian9592]

I was looking for this lmao

[@rendzeedee]

Yet she is still with us to this day.

[@ftllum]

Best traveling companion ever!

[@opposumboy]

can always use her for emergency food if all else fails!

[@Phantasmguy]

@@chillobsidian9592 ehe

[@andrewquick4176]

Annie’s sleepwalking is her wanting to end her bloodline as she subconsciously knows it’s cursed It’s not Paimon controlling her

[@misterbobby8913]

How can she subconsciously know it's cursed if she's not even aware of the existence of the cult and it's witchcraft? She isn't even aware that such things exist. Her sleepwalking is just another symptom of the demonic oppression. The fact there's that homicidal inclination towards her own child is clearly demonically inspired. Objectively.

[@leahw2124]

Yeah similar to how her brother did the same.

[@certifiedgyal]

17:52 There's something about her blatantly calling out Peter like that by staring that gives me goosebumps. Obviously it's more like a joke to the viewer since it's like situational irony and we all know Hercules story alludes to the movie except Peter, but man it's just so odd. Nobody else notices it either and it's so quick. She just turns around, eyes him, and then turns back around like nothing happened. Nobody says anything.

[@gamble777888]

Yup, also another touch that stood out was the way the girl at the party is crushing the nuts is outlandishly aggressive, like it was the demon itself preparing the cake.

[@ravenna2381]

@@gamble777888 i literally noticed that and was like. Is it that serious 🤣

[@teddygaming393]

Mysteries of the head

[@teddygaming393]

Mysteries of the conjoirer

[@levim.3505]

In another scene, that shows Peter stalking her on Facebook, you can actually make out the full name of the girl, which is Bridget Molpe. Molpe is the name of a siren, creatures from Greek mythology who lured seafarers to death with their beauty/singing. So one could definitely say that her involvement in the cult is being hinted at, which I think adds even another disturbing layer to that stare she gives Peter in the classroom . She herself connects the dots (of the story of Herakles being a metaphor to the tragic hopelessness that is Peter's life), thus giving him that unexpected stare to kind of rub it in his face even more, kind of like non-verbally asking him: "You still don't get it?". Really cool stuff.

[@Sun.Shine-]

The fact that "paimon's spirit" assisted the cult with many of their posession is ✨. That is so nice of him, to assist in his own reincarnation 😅

[@hunterphille1280]

Hereditary was a really good movie. It seems like a hot minute since someone has released an original disturbing horror movie that didn't disappoint. I've been desensitized to horror for a long time, but the decapitation scene in the car and the subsequent scene made me sit back and say "damn".

[@emilybarclay8831]

Same! I’ve watching so much horror that I’m sadly quite desensitised but the only recent horror I’ve seen that have actually made me heebiejeebie were hereditary and Gerard’s Game (mainly cause of the that handcuff scene)

[@jase276]

Couldn't agree more. The last film to make me feel such a way was The Strangers and that was almost a decade and a half ago. Coincidentally, both made perfect use of hiding things and details just out of sight.

[@arete7884]

you should check out haunting hill house series it was beautiful and deeply touching and not just a shallow horror

[@cabalofdemons]

One of the best horror films of the 2010s. It's frightening in that the sins or wrong doings of one's ancestors can affect you. The children in this film never had a chance.

[@straypaper]

Funny thing is that Annie could've prevented this had she not let Ellen back into her life. The parent is sinful, but the children turning a blind eye is also at fault. Evil happens because there are those that do it and those that allow it.

[@arete7884]

Is in real life, many children are stuck in perpetual poverty and misfortune subconsciously bound by ancestral karma

[@Gh0st652]

I love how this movie shows us that the cult is constantly manipulating everything. There's no " oh what was that noise? Oh, Charlie is missing a toy!" they just imply it by hiding it in a shot somewhere. Way more spine tingling to hint at a group of people stealing from your children without you *ever* noticing

[@ScottWasHere]

No way, it's that demon from genshin

[@raerdev]

Bruh

[@shotpack8374]

Fun fact:the scene where Peter breaks his nose, the desk was supposed to be foam but they forgot to replace it resulting in the actor breaking his nose for real

[@TheInvisibleShadow95]

Nooooooooo no wonder it looked so real 😭

[@robertcastanpn288]

That not a good thing lol

[@faithruckdeschel1294]

@@TheInvisibleShadow95 The pain on his face was real too....so real I was thinking "OMG, did he really bust his face against that hard ol desk?" I'm surprised he didn't sue because actors rely on the props ppl to NOT mess them up or die like ho Brandon Lee died, by real bullets?

[@a7x_nomadiceagle482]

@@faithruckdeschel1294 *cough* Alec Baldwin *cough*

[@dreiaparratt787]

I'm only 3 minutes in but wondered why this would come up besides fun factness.... Now I'm laughing at Paimon, salivating over this handsome young vessel, to take his payment for his nose to start aching immediately, looking in the mirror, and going "Phuck!"

[@THEJoeDub22]

I haven’t read the script yet but I believe Annie was using a piano wire to cut her head off? After she bangs her head on the attic door and while we’re with Peter up there, we hear the faint clanging of a piano downstairs. Fantastic video! Makes me love the movie even more!

[@georgek14]

Fantastic video, I loved this deep dive into all of the symbology and hidden meanings from the movie. The first time I watched it, it truly shocked me and rendered me incapable of noticing all of these amazing small details. Kudos to Ari Aster and really hope he's given more opportunities in the future to show his passion to the craft of the modern horror genre.

[@GabyG48]

Me too when you know the symbolism in movies it makes it better

[@kmd5321]

Regarding the idea that Joan made up the story of a dead grandson to gain Annie’s trust, in the scene where they ‘bump into eachother’ and Joan tells Annie about the medium and speaking with the Grandson, there are several brand new chalkboards of various sizes in her trunk. If using something that belonged to the deceased is so important, buying brand new items wouldn’t have linked them and hence wouldn’t have made any sense. Joan went to a Michael’s type store and bought a bunch of chalkboards, later deciding on the one that she would say was her grandsons.

[@npc5z]

I believe Paimon possessed Annie and not Peter at the end of the seance because additional steps/rituals had yet to be taken before Paimon could secure himself in Peter. When Annie first looks in the Invocations book, the highlighted text makes it apparent that the transfer is a multi-stage process. One of the final stages required Annie's decapitation, and it had yet to occur. Not so sure Annie would have willingly sawed off her own head with piano wire.

[@frida_m4426]

Like you said, when she did that she was already possessed (not necessarily by P), and when Peter jumps out the window is when then he gets too.

[@KatalinaAudios444]

It also helped get Peter ready, watching his mother decapitate herself helped get his mind ready to be taken over by Paimon

[@dawoodwilliams3652]

This movie, really pays attention to detail of the demon they're using. From the atmosphere, to the music, and the demons representation. This is the horror i prefer these days, good demonic psychological horror. This movie alongside The Witch is top tier.

[@williamreely3455]

34:53 the reason the Lesser Key mentions "nine kings" with only eight cardinal / semicardinal directions is because Lucifer is at the center as the ninth (or first) with no assigned direction. I assume Joan is referring here to the eight lesser kings under Lucifer (Asmodeus, Bael, Balam, Belial, Byleth, Paimon, Purson, Zagan) as most practicioners of occult demonology do not regard Lucifer as a being to be invoked, conjured, or commanded by mortals.

[@patienceRachel]

It's truly a terrifying movie. It wasn't full of jump scares, every scene added more and more horror without cliché

[@englishatheart]

How? How was it terrifying? The end literally made me crack up. Headless bodies floating up to a treehouse is not scary.

[@teddygaming393]

Furdes2

[@teddygaming393]

Let me into you

[@teddygaming393]

@@englishatheart christine

[@teddygaming393]

@@englishatheart chrisiten the erbs

[@08_rez]

I felt bad for Pete begging his mom to stop like “Mommy Im sorry” “Mommy please stop” “Mommy im sorry i swear” Not knowing he’d have to spend the rest of his days as a host of a demon/little sister. Stuck inside his brain knowing hes alone, no one can hear him he cant speak to no one he cant do anything just knowing his family is dead. This movie isn’t just scary, it’s sad and dark if you think too deep about it.

[@misterbobby8913]

Well it wasn't his little sister, it was just the demon.

[@misterbobby8913]

But I completely Agree, I felt his raw emotional delivery too, His performance was so vulnerable and masterfully done.

[@foxsparks7983]

He doesn’t stay stuck in his body, he dies when he falls out the window before Paimon possesses his body. You can see this when a shadow (Peter’s soul) drifts away from the body before the light (Paimon) enters it. I don’t think Paimon can (or at least wants to) share a body with another host. Death honestly might have been a more merciful fate for Peter than being trapped in his own mind forever, but it’s sad that he never truly understood what was going on.

[@jjccore]

​@@foxsparks7983 the shadow we see when peter is on the ground is annie's body floating out of the window

[@gamerdudepunk]

Yup. Also the inevitable, hopeless destruction of a family

[@livingcorpse5664]

Peter: Jumps out window. King Paimon: 'Five second rule!"

[@MySpiritAnimalisADorito]

They did such a good job casting the young girl to play Charlie, the troubled initial vessel... but why did they get a guy that looks Indian to play Peter, the son of 2 white people? He looks adopted... which would be a twist in a movie called "Hereditary."

[@NathanExploshin]

Do y’all think that, when Charlie is possessed in the classroom, his hand was positioned to mimic that staff that piamon has in his drawling ?

[@bhavana9357]

Thats a very cool observation

[@TheAaronFerreira]

So is Paimon's symbol meant to represent 4 pregnant women? Implying that it requires a deep bloodline in order to spawn a proper host?

[@jeambeam3173]

Wow never spotted that

[@chubbybunny6975]

No, but what IS required to summon Paimon in The Lesser Key of Solomon is 3 sacrifices, specifically beheadings. Hence the 3 heads he wears on his belt, and why 3 people were beheaded, Ellen, Charlie, and Annie. In the book though it states that the sacrifices do NOT have to be human, you can literally sacrifice 3 goldfish lol

[@salladss]

@@chubbybunny6975 brb boutta hit up PetSmart and summon an insidious demon 👿

[@mikedavis1476]

@@salladss good luck...let me know how it goes

[@salladss]

@julia makes the movie better/ more impactful

[@eyeofthedemon7]

It's so much deeper than just a horror film how could anyone grasp even 50% of this in a theater visit? Thankful for channels like this

[@anna_avnta]

Paimon is now helping me find my twin brother while being bothered by the retired gods of this world whose only job seems to be making me work for them

[@nemoonemii]

Ehe te nandayo?!!

[@captainbeidou]

Lmfaooo paimon is now an emergency food

[@dusan2001]

This movie didn't scare me because it had jumpscares and things like that. For me, two things made it scary: 1) tension-troughout the film it builds and builds and when it is very much needed it explodes, making a scene memorable. Just remember the car scene; 2) hereditary aspect-most of the horror movies today are happening during a fairly short period of time and you are always certain who the villain is. In this movie King Paimon opresses the family for decades, being there during their higs and most certainly during their lows, in fact being the cause of it. He has influenced and is influencing their biggest life decisions, he is suptle and persistent. By the end of the movie almost everyone is either dead or possesed and no one knows what killed them. For me, the thought of my family being a victim of such an entity is horrifying.

[@antjack6192]

Toni crawling on the wall was damn terrifying

[@luistorres6956]

Good things such entities don't exist. Imagination.

[@straypaper]

The entire movie was just suspense for me, but it never gets boring. Somehow it keeps escalating to even freakier things without letting up. No moment of reprieve or hope, no chance of miracle, no outside help (Joan *looked* like outside help but the way she butts in despite being connected only to Ellen was mad sus), no heroic revelation (we have that Invocation scene but the information there was barely helpful), and it just keeps getting more hopeless. It's like watching a car crash in slow motion. You already know how a car crash would end up like, you have no power to stop it now that it happened, and you can't look away because you move in slow motion, and yet you're treated to every one of its painful detail.

[@b3rdlala]

@@TheWashableBomb it's pretty clear they aren't saying the movie wasn't scary, just that jump scares aren't what scared them 🤦🏿‍♀️

[@ElixirOfEuphoria]

@@TheWashableBomb You need some reading comprehension lessons

[@ScholarVisual]

And now Paimon has transformed himself into a cute little girl helping a traveler find his sister.

[@scarazed7609]

I knew if I scrolled for long enough I'd find this

[@schmiggidy]

@@scarazed7609 DITTO! Kinda makes you ponder fairy P.A.I.MO.N.'s backstory and true intentions ... as emergency food, ofc

[@scarazed7609]

@@schmiggidy I mean most archons got demon names (barbatos,baal and Beelzebub,morax...)

[@uzuboki]

iykyk

[@mangersavoir4213]

Huh?

[@thedemonnemo]

I didn't see it anywhere in the comments but it is mentioned in the movie that Peter's father wasn't Annie's (current) husband but that she had been pregnant when she met Stephen Graham. The casting of an actor to play Peter that looks different to the rest of the family was probably a deliberate choice.

[@aftabadeel50]

that is what I thought when I first saw peter. I thought he doesn't look like any of his parents, you have a point

[@freethoughts2898]

They could've have just waited 5 years for her to realize she was a trans male? What a mean grandma.

[@oscaraiken5484]

I watched this movie so many times and watched tons of videos about it but I honestly never noticed they used Charlie's head on the mannequin of King paimon in the treehouse. This has to be one of the greatest movies of this century, its the movie that just keeps on giving and there always seems to be something new to discover!

[@AncientCityMusic]

Who’s head did you think it was??

[@nichellejohnson3340]

What? I never noticed that.

[@kracksquatch512]

How Didn't You Notice It After Watching It So Many Times?

[@Nonamelol.]

@@AncientCityMusicLiterally???😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@RebeccaO619]

This is probably some of the most beautifully curated content I’ve seen in a while . Cheers to both teams for bringing this together and you absolutely did Hereditary justice. What in the Horror has gained a new sub in me!

[@ashleighstratmann7783]

The thing is, Peter only brought Charlie to the high school party because Annie forced him too as she didn't buy Peter's lie about the party being just a school event and wanted to be ensure that Peter won't do anything irresponsible. So how did the cult or paimon influence Annie into sending Charlie to supervise her brother so she would be where she needs to and endure the right events to be decapitated?

[@adamsmasher9769]

Yes. If you notice when they are driving near there earlier in the day paimons symbol is carved into the very pillar that decapitates charlie. Their entire lives were pre planned and manipulated by the cult. Its one of the brilliant things about this movie to me, even if they knew what was happening they couldnt even begin to fight it. It was over before it began.

[@dph4n7om]

Also it's worth mentioning that some of Peter's classmates were members of the cult, allegedly. I mean who uses 6lbs of peanuts for a batch of brownies lmao

[@ashleighstratmann7783]

@@dph4n7om Yeah I know. I saw that scene and I have to agree with Whatthehorror that they were using WAY too many nuts just to hope to cause a nut allergy from Charlie. How the heck Charlie not notice there were any nuts in the cake?

[@dph4n7om]

@@ashleighstratmann7783 she probably ran out of plot armor

[@ashleighstratmann7783]

@@dph4n7om Probably. Although I agree Charlie might be in the autism spectrum, she obviously high in the spectrum like Aspergers or something. And I can tell you as someone with Aspergers, we're not stupid and can be observant when we want to be.

[@lowrider81hd]

The choice of actors is what’s most amazing about this movie. It’s like everybody was meant for their role and their acting careers all led up to this movie.

[@delloliod]

It's amazing how you can watch a movie multiple times and still miss things Zak finds! Thank you both for this amazing lesson on an incredible film! And congrats on one million!

[@ashleighstratmann7783]

Interesting fact: in the script it was mention charlie ate a chocolate bar after decapitating the bird's head, and Peter and his buddies were heading under the bleachers to smoke pot he saw her eating the chocolate and said 'No nuts' causing Charlie to stop. I thought at first he just caught her by surprise but when I found out she was had decapitated heads of small animals in a shoe box that she always kept closed around the family (Other heads are mention in the script but you can tell in the movie that she kept a shoe box closed when she has it with her when around family), that she might of been worried Peter saw the decaptitated bird head. But I will say it does show Peter does care enough to look out for his little sister every now and then.