Utilizing the new Unearthed Arcana feats we revisit an old fighter build that just got insanely powerful. Dungeons and Dragons 5e - Fighter Champion Quarterstaff build
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@geoffreyperrin43473 жыл бұрын
You can also do the exact same thing and wield a spear if you want a more classic roman fighter. polearm master includes spears as well for both bonus action and reaction
@RollingWithAdvantage3 жыл бұрын
I love the spear idea but crusher works better with the staff. I’m a big fan of the Sparta 300 feel with the spear and the shield.
@Carter9333 жыл бұрын
@@RollingWithAdvantage Thanks for giving me an idea of what to do with Corundus now! lol Best part is that I can still use Crusher Feat even with the Spear since the bonus attack is bludgeoning. :)
@ericpeterson87322 жыл бұрын
While you are doing bludgeoning w/ your bonus action attack, the build is relying on you consistently pushing your opponent back to get an extra opportunity attack. A spear halves your chances and after level five, it's down to 30% chances. Nope, stick with the stick.
@LucidNyte3 жыл бұрын
Currently following this build, I also put one level into cleric in the life domain to have some decent healing and stabilize fallen teammates. My group had a battle yesterday where multiple players kept going down, and my character was able to prevent my teammates' deaths, while also finishing off a ton of the enemies thanks to all of the polearm master damage. Thanks for the help, this build seriously saved me and my entire team yesterday during a tough battle as I was able to finish off the enemies fast enough to save everyone, and defend myself with the 18 AC.
@RollingWithAdvantage3 жыл бұрын
That is awesome!! I love this build mixed with cleric!
@vernonhampton58632 жыл бұрын
Clerics lead the way.
@bryankia3 жыл бұрын
Clever build. UA really mixes things up. Thanks for sharing. I would find it hard to play a champion. GM: “Bryan what is your character doing?” ME: “I hit him with a stick.” 20 levels of that would get tedious. That said. I like the build a lot. Thanks as always for sharing your creativity.
@RollingWithAdvantage3 жыл бұрын
I don't disagree with you. I think you would have to really get into the role play and story elements to play this character. It has some really neat tricks but swinging with a stick could get boring after a while. I think the paladin version of this build would be more entertaining because at least you could smite off all the attacks. My idea to RP this character would be to play it as the old retired adventurer who wants to go out and recapture the glory of his youth. I like the idea of old man Logan sort of thing for him.
@berez343 жыл бұрын
Ty so much. Love to test this.
@YourBoyNobody5303 жыл бұрын
So I tend to add two feats to may games which make duel wielding, and sword and board much stronger. Those feats are aptly names duel wield master, and versatile weapon master. Duel wield master is an improvement on the original duel wielder feat giving you the same benefits, but you also get the ability to add your proficiency modifier to your attacks as flat damage. Versatile weapon master on the other hand is a completely new feat which allows you to use the two handed weapon dice of a versatile weapon while using it in one hand along with the ability to add your proficiency modifier as flat damage, and the ability to use a versatile weapon as a finesse weapon.
@brunonascimento96333 жыл бұрын
where do i find these feats? Do you have some link?
@jasonlyon56752 жыл бұрын
Playing this type of build. Went Bugbear for reach with quaterstaff and Eldritch Knight for Shield spell. With Lost Mines that Glasstaff is crazy with 8 shield spells. Went for AC tank frontline vs bigger damager cuz im the only frontliner in party. Fun build!
@RollingWithAdvantage2 жыл бұрын
Bugbear is really nuts with this type of build. Sounds like a great character!
@ApocCalii2 жыл бұрын
Currently trying out this build in a Icewind Dale campign. Just hit lvl 3 tonight at the end of the session. Enjoying it so far!
@RollingWithAdvantage2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@SatansWerewolf2 жыл бұрын
I like this on a ghostslayer blood hunter. At lvl 11 you can do 1d4 + 2d8 + 2 + str per hit against a single target. Add in 3 levels of gloomstalker ranger for hunters mark and an extra attack on turn one so you can bonus action hunters mark and get 3 attacks every turn.
@grizzlednerd45213 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking a Half Elf Vengence Paladin might work with Elven Accuracy and Vow of Enmity (for crit fishing) as well as getting Hunter's Mark without a feat. It's not as consistant with it's crits, but has a few more tactical options...like smiting on your crits.
@RollingWithAdvantage3 жыл бұрын
A lot options are out there now that Tasha is out.
@srdnbckler2 жыл бұрын
I am playing this build as written/shown. I recent combat with opening attack, character is at 5th level, managed to do nearly 80 points of damage against an adult green dragon.This is an excellent build. We have progressed to 6th level so I am anxious to see how the FeyTouched effects the combat.
@johngallant16293 жыл бұрын
I would go half elf to get elven accuracy & go 3-4 lvls warlock to use charisma for your weapon so you benefit from elven accuracy & tack on the darkness & devils sight for advantage(+elven accuracy) & enemies having disadvantage on attacks unless they can see through magical darkness.
@David-kw5uj Жыл бұрын
Very nice build. However when picking so many feats the strength bonus modifier does not grow for the first levels, and this costs some points of damage. Counting also that without the polearm feat we can handle a weapon with a d8 instead of a d6 the result is that with this combo we can just make a 1/2 more damage each turn (with base actions). That's more than usual but not so gamebreaking.
@bumpkinpower4 ай бұрын
Quick question how did you manage to get 18 armor class i only get 16 or they changed smt?
@RollingWithAdvantage4 ай бұрын
Chain mail and a shield. Ac16 armor and then add 2 for the shield.
@cdezelah29583 жыл бұрын
Or you could go ancestral barbarian for 6 levels, then move into fighter, or vice versa (as long as you get that 6 levels) and the you would be able to basically deal alot of dmg, control foes a small bit by moving them, but also provide some sort of tanking/group utility.
@RollingWithAdvantage3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a good option.
@cdezelah29583 жыл бұрын
@@RollingWithAdvantage that's what I thought as well, I was going to try it out sometime, I was calling it an ancestral champion.
@mastertombo2 жыл бұрын
Do you have this written out somewhere? Level by level? Cuz I took notes on the jist of it. But I really like the idea behind this character
@RollingWithAdvantage2 жыл бұрын
No but to be honest it can be used in a number of set ups. Crusher is such a great feat when paired with sentinel. I recently saw it used on a Rune knight with great efficiency.
@mastertombo2 жыл бұрын
@@RollingWithAdvantage oh ok I was just gonna keep it a a stick and board Fighter no real magic besides what you outlined
@mastertombo2 жыл бұрын
So I did write up this character just not in a character sheet. Planned all the way to 20. And yes I took Sentinel.
@kshea42312 жыл бұрын
so get this for a idea, what if you dipped this into bear barb for 3 levels? probably at 12th level? or just go bear barb and take one level of fighter or fighter initiate feat for dueling style. could be good for low level games. which is almost all games if we're being realistic
@DarthBoberEXMinMaxMunchking3 жыл бұрын
Crusher is one of the more WTF feats from that UA, I'm almost 100% sure it's gonna be nerfed if it becomes official. Whoever made it didn't think about how ridiculous it can be in a party full of attack-based characters.
@RollingWithAdvantage3 жыл бұрын
I think Crusher needs to have a saving throw attached to it.
@YourBoyNobody5303 жыл бұрын
@@RollingWithAdvantage agreed that is a good way to nerf it say a DC = 8+proficiency+strength or dexterity modifier. Having dexterity on there is important because it lets you use crusher on a monk.
@magma903 жыл бұрын
Hi Min/Max Munchkin
@danielshuford16512 жыл бұрын
Awesome build
@RollingWithAdvantage2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jimmrazek2 жыл бұрын
Also, doesn’t this break the action economy? You can do two attacks (actions) and 1 bonus action. You can’t string bonus actions right?
@RollingWithAdvantage2 жыл бұрын
No you can't string bonus actions. This build has multiple things to do with it's bonus action. It just gives you options.
@wesleyholder35403 жыл бұрын
Nice build!
@RollingWithAdvantage3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to playing in your group again at some point.
@wesleyholder35403 жыл бұрын
We play on Discord and and Roll20 almost every Wednesday night. Not the long running campaign, but another one. You should play!
@Karynthian2 жыл бұрын
Instead of adding WIS, add DEX and use scale mail instead of heavy armor, you'll get the same AC at low levels
@ApocCalii2 жыл бұрын
How did you get to 18 AC? What armor did you choose? I selected half-plate but only gets it to 17.
@RollingWithAdvantage2 жыл бұрын
Shield equipped?
@ApocCalii2 жыл бұрын
@@RollingWithAdvantage Yeah, that puts it to 17 because half plate is 15
@RollingWithAdvantage2 жыл бұрын
Chain mail is 16 and then 2 for the shield.
@RollingWithAdvantage2 жыл бұрын
If using dndbeyond be sure the shield is equipped.
@YourBoyNobody5303 жыл бұрын
I would leave myself with an 18 constitution and get the tough feat to have an extra 20 HP
@RollingWithAdvantage3 жыл бұрын
Good call!
@YourBoyNobody5303 жыл бұрын
@@RollingWithAdvantage indeed that should push your damage over 200 if I'm correct
@willb1693 жыл бұрын
Could you elaborate? After what level do you suggest I get the Tough feat before maxing con to 18?
@EvesongShadow2 жыл бұрын
Im trying to recreate this following along but right from the get go the AC score does not match what you have in Video.
@RollingWithAdvantage2 жыл бұрын
Chain mail is AC 16 and then +2 for the shield. Be sure you equip both your armor and your shield if using DND Beyond.
@EvesongShadow2 жыл бұрын
@@RollingWithAdvantage ah ok! Thanks didn't know that since I'm really new to dnd but wanna learn
@EvesongShadow2 жыл бұрын
@@RollingWithAdvantage I just noticed that cool, lol friend showed me DndBeyond but never told me about that equip feature lol
@killavilla3777 Жыл бұрын
On the feat selection I didn’t see pullarm master I only saw grapple anyone know why that is?
@RollingWithAdvantage Жыл бұрын
Do you have the players handbook unlocked on dnd beyond?
@killavilla3777 Жыл бұрын
@@RollingWithAdvantage no so I would guess that’s why
@killavilla3777 Жыл бұрын
@@RollingWithAdvantage thanks
@milesmeunier42033 жыл бұрын
This is wow!!! Is it available leveled out from 1 to 20?
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@silverbro133 жыл бұрын
NOTE: This only works against medium, small or tiny enemies.
@RollingWithAdvantage3 жыл бұрын
Good point but that's a lot of your encounters though it varies depending on your campaign.
@silverbro133 жыл бұрын
@@RollingWithAdvantage In my admittedly limited experience, this usually only works in situations where there are mostly human enemies. Most enemies with a CR rating of 2 or higher tend to be larger and not as easy to push around.
@RollingWithAdvantage3 жыл бұрын
This varies greatly from table to table. I just finished a campaign over 15 sessions 6 encounters had monsters that this ability wouldn’t work on. Maybe talk to your DM to get a hint of the type of game it would be.
@colbywoolcott40963 жыл бұрын
Even if you’re using a character with large carrying capacity or giants might?
@bradfhayward2 жыл бұрын
Take Rune Knight.
@lfbp70512 жыл бұрын
Very cool
@RollingWithAdvantage2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@absolstoryoffiction66152 жыл бұрын
Lv15 Eberon Warforged - Eldritch Knight - Tunnel Fighting Fighter Feats: Telekinetic, Warcaster, Sentinel, Mage Slayer, Polarm Master Stat Block: Point Buy 14 (+2 from Warforged) Con 15 Str 14 Dex 10 Wis 9 Int (+1 from Telekinetic) 9 Chr (+1 from Warforged) Weapons: Shield and a "Long" melee weapon (10ft hit range). Enemy: Moves to my hit area. Me: "It's time to cast Fire Ball in so many ways before my turn begins." Enemy: "I'll retire... Have a good day."
@RollingWithAdvantage2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@tylerbischop6748 Жыл бұрын
Where did the 18ac come from?
@RollingWithAdvantage Жыл бұрын
Chain mail AC 16 and a shield is +2 AC
@willb1693 жыл бұрын
I haven't played D&D since 3.5, 20+ years ago and know little about 5e. I chose this class because I generally love the front line and it's an easy character to play. I just made level 4 and am having a LOT of fun! My DM and other players are also VERY cool and helpful. This is seriously a cool AF build. I already got the ability to magically light my quarter staff by tapping it and it's tipped in silver on both ends. How can I make this weapon better? Is there a better variation weapon I can get to or is this likely my forever weapon? I'm still wearing common starter chainmail and shield, so there's a lot of improvement to be made in defense. **I just leveld up with all the generous party's gold to barely buy be +1 full plate armor AT LVL 4?!?** Tank we are now!!! lol
@willb1693 жыл бұрын
Oh and my DM wasn't originally going to accept this build because it was UA, but... they realized it's now in TCoE 🤘
@RollingWithAdvantage3 жыл бұрын
This build is really a staff build. It works with the bottom end of a spear but it’s just better with a stick.
@willb1693 жыл бұрын
@@RollingWithAdvantage I didn't make a spear. I kept my quarter staff and just silver plated the ends for monsters weak to silver. Win/win! Thank you for this great suggestion! I tried so hard to make a defensive meat shield work in 3.5 and never could, but this is super fun to role play
@rafaelpesconi63623 жыл бұрын
That if you keep the stick till level 20. You should think a way to work with uncomum, rare and very rare weapons also.
@iParaShane3 жыл бұрын
What about the poisoners feat?
@RollingWithAdvantage3 жыл бұрын
I do like that feat a lot. I may have a separate build for it soon.
@extralongbaguette88802 жыл бұрын
Crusher works wonders with monk as well!
@RollingWithAdvantage2 жыл бұрын
Yes it does!
@Cbev19943 жыл бұрын
Could this work with cavalier?
@RollingWithAdvantage3 жыл бұрын
Yes it could.
@ghastias67413 жыл бұрын
Great build, im currently playing a regular version of this, since ua is not allowed so im using a spear for mixing damage types. Also i'm playing cavalier for the extra battle control and extra attacks
@RollingWithAdvantage3 жыл бұрын
The 300 version of the build is still great. Are you multiclassing at all?
@ghastias67413 жыл бұрын
@@RollingWithAdvantage It is planned as full fighter, firstly because it is the first campaing of many of my party members, so i didnt want to overcomplicate things with multiclassing, but also i think it is a very simple yet efective combination of mechanics that gets more from every level of fighter
@99subetai3 жыл бұрын
I doubt that Polearm Master was meant to function with a shield i.e. you are not using the weapon as a "polearm." Quarterstaff fighting styles that allow for butt weapon attacks would be two handed fighting forms. I think this is using the feat RAW, but not RAI. Perhaps Jeremy Crawford will clarify, but how are you spinning the weapon, for the reverse attack using a polearm form, if you have a shield?
@RollingWithAdvantage3 жыл бұрын
I know it seems odd but it does work. Watch 300 for inspiration to help get the mind set.
@99subetai3 жыл бұрын
@@RollingWithAdvantage You aren't using the weapon as a POLEARM, thus shouldn't get the extra attack from a polearm feat imo. Like I said, I think this is RAW, but not RAI. The basis for Polearm forms, were 2h forms of the quarterstaff in the Middle Ages. This is where the feat draws inspiration.
@WinterWerewolf3 жыл бұрын
He clarified already AFAIK... in November 2014 on Twitter. The feat does not require the quarterstaff to be wielded with 2h.
@RollingWithAdvantage3 жыл бұрын
@@WinterWerewolf Thanks for looking it up!
@I_leave_mean_comments2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't allow this in my game. It's stupid. You CAN'T wield a quarterstaff with one hand. Try it. Pick up a staff and fight one handed with it. Sorry, this is just not how it works.
@ericpeterson87322 жыл бұрын
When did you change the name of your channel?
@ericpeterson87322 жыл бұрын
And now you've changed it back. 😁
@RollingWithAdvantage2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t mean to change it. :)
@dominicdwk2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome you don't have to multi-class!!
@RollingWithAdvantage2 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@Ston2472 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute.... can a fighter use dueling and champion at the same time ?
@RollingWithAdvantage2 жыл бұрын
Dueling is a fighting style and champion is a sub class.
@Ston2472 жыл бұрын
@@RollingWithAdvantage Ah, yes. I got them mixed up. Dueling/Protection vs Champion/Battlemaster
@popeye32122 жыл бұрын
how do you get 18 ac at 1st lvl?
@RollingWithAdvantage2 жыл бұрын
Chain mail and a shield is 18
@popeye32122 жыл бұрын
@@RollingWithAdvantage oooh the chainmail, okay now it makes sense xp my brain didn't go that far XD
@willjcus Жыл бұрын
Hall beard!
@RollingWithAdvantage Жыл бұрын
My southern accent gets me in a lot of hilarious trouble.
@Raziier2023 Жыл бұрын
Cant pick perception or Poleman Master...
@johnnywood-cc1oh Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t you duel weird with a glave?
@johnnywood-cc1oh Жыл бұрын
So why couldn’t you use a glave?
@BrownBox69Ай бұрын
Dueling doesn't work with Glaive since it is a two handed weapon
@spookyintentions9893 жыл бұрын
Only downside to crusher is DM's who are adaptive and will choose instead to attack someone else instead of you so you stop cheesing his monsters lol.
@RollingWithAdvantage3 жыл бұрын
I get irritated when DMs meta game against their players. Monsters never shoot arrows at monks or they only cast spells when they are 30ft away from the counter spell ready wizard. My first rule is that everyone should have fun. To me that’s allowing my players opportunities to use their abilities.
@spookyintentions9893 жыл бұрын
@@RollingWithAdvantage my dm is the Meta gaming dm, it gets obnoxious sometimes lol
@KulqrDBD3 жыл бұрын
@@spookyintentions989 trash dm then
@spookyintentions9893 жыл бұрын
@@KulqrDBD I totally replied to your comment without realizing what you were making the comment about hahaha. Yeah that is now my OLD dm because he would meta game the fuck out of us instead of offering elegant solutions to the problems he created without thinking.
@pansernes3 жыл бұрын
My first thought exactly, personally I'd go Cavalier instead of Champion to mark everyone I push away, so they dont have a good option besides provoking an opportunity attack from me.
@MFinGonzo3 жыл бұрын
Why not use a spear instead of a quarter staff
@RollingWithAdvantage3 жыл бұрын
For this build the quarter staff is better so all of your attacks are bludgeoning.
@RIVERSRPGChannel2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we don't use UA
@RollingWithAdvantage2 жыл бұрын
So, crusher is no longer UA it was printed in Tasha's so it's totally legal now.
@RIVERSRPGChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@RollingWithAdvantage cool
@jimmrazek2 жыл бұрын
Rule of cool I might allow it, but I have a hard time imagining someone using a shield properly, AND a 6’ quarterstaff without imposing some form of disadvantage. I don’t think I’d allow this without saying you either drop the shield or do half damage with the quarterstaff
@RollingWithAdvantage2 жыл бұрын
Every DM can rule as they wish. The quarterstaff can be a 1 handed weapon, so I don't have an issue with it. In a world where people can call down lightning and produce fire out of thin air, I think it's ok to let melee bend into the fantastical as well.
@user-od1qw8qp1u2 жыл бұрын
UA has been removed xD
@RollingWithAdvantage2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the crusher feat made it to release unchanged from UA.