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[@dreamcream3738]

Player behavior that irks me? 1) Players who go out of their way to throw monkey wrenches and tries to keep secrets because they think they can pull a fast one on me, as if their mission is to treat the DM like their adversary. As a DM, I am actively rooting for the party. I set a success rate of 70%, a 30% chance of failure is enough to make the risk of losing clear but not catastrophic. 2) Chronic Backstabbing Disorder, players who go out of their way to betray or otherwise subvert the party. This disrupts the game and the story, and becomes aggravating to adjudicate, especially when the treasonous player is also secretive from the DM

[@derrickhaggard]

I've dealt with the 2nd one before it was in a 4.5 campaign especially and my character was a female chaotic good Tiefling Ranger/Druid since he didn't reveal that his character a Human Fiend Pact Warlock/Fiendlock was chaotic evil, and was going to backstab us in our sleep and didn't give me, the rest of the party, and the DM any hints that he was chaotic evil and was going to backstab us so when he eventually did and we started an impromptu PvP combat as it was the rest of us vs. the chaotic evil backstabbing Fiendlock with my character getting the final kill shot against him with a critical hit via her Longbow. Now when the combat ended with his character dead he got mad at us and the DM for his attempt at backstabbing us in our sleep failed and we had the combat that he wasn't prepared for(it was a nighttime camping downtime moment) however the DM then brought up that he didn't throughout the entire the campaign at the least make it known to him the DM that his character was chaotic evil and was going to try and backstab us in our sleep cause if he did then the two of them could've earlier in the campaign properly try to figure out a way to make the reveal that he was evil and the backstab actually work while still because of plot reasons keeping my character and the rest of the party in the dark but because said player didn't the DM properly punished him by having his backstabbing attempt fail and having the impromptu PvP combat which ended poorly for said backstabbing attempt and the DM calmly explained this stating "if you would've at the least let me know your character's true alignment and plan concerning the rest of the party ahead of time I would've gladly worked with you to make your character's true alignment reveal and backstab attempt work while still keeping everyone else in the dark beforehand due to plot reasons to make an exciting and tense moment in the campaign" needless to say said backstabbing player didn't see it that way and after arguing with us and the DM for 5 more minutes he left the group and the rest of the campaign went smoothly after that.

[@TheUncannyDani]

I do think it's necessary at times to outright ask to make a specific check, because I've had plenty of DMs who don't pick up what I'm putting down through roleplay. I'm asking if I remember something about a faith related to mine, please let me roll a die.

[@visidenvisidane1155]

You often get the behavior you train players to have. Run them through a dungeon with killer traps every ten feet, you get players who search every five foot square of the dungeon from then on. Put them in an intrigue where everyone is two-faced and using them? That’s an insight check with each statement. It’s not the DM’s fault either, it’s just something that happens.

[@Drakoni23]

Tip for piling checks: Ask 1 or 2 player to helm that check. Either they both roll or one of them with advantage with the second helping. After this no other character trying the same thing will change the existing result. You have to either try something new or live with the failed check. If everyone wants to do the same thing, do a group check. If half or more of the players succeed, the group succeeds, otherwise, the group check fails.

[@megatronjenkins2473]

(rolls a 7) stumbles while trying to feed the almighty Algorithmo of DOOOOOM!!!!!, and I faceplant.

[@kullanturner2555]

If a player comes to you with an in-depth character sheet/backstory, USE what the player gives you. Free world building, plot points, etc. They are doing the hard work for you. Or, better yet, COMMUNICATE the theme of the campaign/one-shot before they go off the rails.

[@defiledsoul1658]

I think they mean the issue is when they have only joined the game, but you are right. Communicate with them, if the backstory is large and overloaded ask the player for a summary, and then point out some suggested changes or issues with your world. Because even if you are worried they are focused on the character if you do what you can to engage the character to your world, the player will be engaged too.

[@trebet5196]

I do like that in DCC it says right in the book that if it's just a DC 5 and failure doesn't have detrimental results, then don't roll.

[@spiritB0mber]

"i didnt make a face character so im gonna sit in the corner until combat starts" absolutely drives me up the fucking wall. Every time this happens the game devolves until it might as well be me doing a 1 on 1 session. I get it not everyone is a great role player but im not demanding people be critical role just give me something to work with. Oh and stop fucking playing magic on your phone or "listening to your own music" whenever i put on some background noise.

[@AzaloonyToons]

The one behavior I can’t stand is sitting behavior. …ok I’ll leave.

[@amishtechwizard5540]

Take a gold star with you, king.

[@obviouslykaleb7998]

tbh for me, I cant stand sleeping.

[@LadyValrethgames]

Today in the current campaign I'm in, we had a full session RP, which was great. My character is a Drow celestial Warlock 5lvl Dragon bloodline Sorcerer 5lvl named Nogard. There is a Dwarven Artificer 10lvl named Thodur, a mouse Knight named Clive, and a Human Paladin of Conquest. We've finally been able to pieces several parts of information together and My character was able to figure out several things and put them together and managed to piss off a council of dwarves by telling them that they were cowards for running from a fight. The Dwarves themselves this session told all of our characters that they had a time machine and had used it three times already to fight deamons. As such, they screwed up the timeline and set their paradoxes going all at the same time, giving the deamons everything they needed to counter every dwarven assault that was made. All of this was done without any BBEG showing up to take us out or delay us in any way. Just all of us as players doing lots of RPing it was all very refreshing and I love having full sessions that just are RP heavy.

[@stevenjohnson6962]

I have a friend in my group. Even though he has played longer than me we all have to keep reminding him to add his modifier to his dice rolls.

[@Unimportant0]

ngl by far one of the worst things one can do outside of not even trying to get engaged

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

​@Unimportant0 Yeah, how dare someone forget. They are such an awful person because the didn't remember something. Right up there with backstabbing everyone, using D&D as kink roleplay, and harassing other olayers just for their religion, race, or sexuality. Honestly, forgetting to do something, and forcing all the other players to spend 2 second reminding you truely is one of the worst.

[@HeyYouFromThatGame]

@@addison_v_ertisement1678 woah there buddy don't burn the kitchen

[@crona3316]

@@addison_v_ertisement1678holy shit, you must be so much fun at parties, huh?

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

@@crona3316 Yeah, because I'm the prick that looks down on people just because they forgot something. This guy says that people are awful just for forgetting something. Meanwhile, I haven't done anything wrong.

[@Godzillawolf1]

I get really frustrated with 'Backseat DMs'. Note, by Backseat DM I DO NOT mean 'correct me or another player on a rule,' I mean chastizing me on a fundamental way I'm running the game because you don't agree with a long tangent in the middle of the session. I admit, I'm not the best DM. I'm still a newbie. I get it if you've DMed more than I have and want to give me advice, that's fine. Do not try to do it MIDGAME and do it in a respectful way, in front of the entire party unless I did something absurdly terrible that deserved the call out. Discord DMs and meeting privately after the session are options. Especially if the rest of the party is having fun and enjoying themselves.

[@l_ndonmusic]

I’ve found myself doing that more often than not, so usually when I encounter something I might assume to be a misunderstanding, I go “hey, I think the official ruling for X is this. If you intend it to be like what you’re doing now, that’s cool, but if not, this is typically how the rule goes”

[@Lilith_Xolaani]

New player: "My Familiar is then gonna Bite attack" DM: *Isn't saying anything* Me: "Familiars can't attack" It's not an attack on your ego, so don't take offense to it and take it personally. Instead, appreciate having a player who is playing actively and helping other players too.

[@Godzillawolf1]

@@Lilith_Xolaani Okay, so I need to specify: THAT is fine, I'm talking about having someone go on a long tangent about how I'm DMing wrong, in a disrespectful manner, and interupting the session to do so. I corrected the post to specify that's what I mean.

[@Godzillawolf1]

@@l_ndonmusic Okay, so correction, I didn't actually mean that, I meant more long tagents about how I'm 'DMing wrong' and kinda acting like they're the one DMing and not me because our DMing styles are different or they disagree, and doing it in a disrespectful 'I know better than you' manner. I corrected the original post.

[@Leftists_are_Losers]

Chronic interruption of the DM. When the player screams their action when the DM is trying to describe the action are effing annoying.

[@LeonardAndHisBiscuit]

A non-intellectual: "Say what you're doing, not what you're rolling. Instead of 'I want to roll an Insight check' ask 'Do I think this person is lying to me?' and then wait for the GM to tell you to make an Insight check because that's what we all know you want to do anyway." Myself, an intellectual: "Say what you want to roll and convince me it makes sense."

[@TheHumanShitpost]

1) players that show up high/drunk 2) beeline behavior, players who go straight to the thing that will end the situation without logic. Ie, they walk up to a man an ask "are you the murderer?" When they inevitably get told wtf no and now everyone who heard the question is on guard. 3) couples who self segregate in game and only awkwardly rp with the rest of the party

[@tazman2253]

if your not paying attention when its not your turn in combat you better be a caster. PLaying casters regularly when its not my turn I tend to look over 2-3 spells that I plan to be cast my next turn. That way I have a plan for whatever the battle turns into between turns. Even then I always only ever needed a quick run down of enemies still standing party position and possibly the most damaged looking enemy and PC.

[@tobiasbayer4866]

When they only start thinking about what to do on their turn once its their turn. Bonus points If they didnt even pay attention to what the other people were doing and have to keep being reminded what already happened. And bonus bonus points when they have to be reminded that it even is their turn because they didnt even pay attention to that...

[@crona3316]

Yeah I fucking hate that shit. Literally plan my turn out during the round

[@defiledsoul1658]

​@@crona3316agreed, have a simple idea od what my character would do, and I adjust it based on how the initiative unfolds, its not hard.

[@aronsmith3417]

One of the reasons, my own anxiety aside, i am hesitant to start properly getting into DND is because of the many things i hear that many people don't like and already know that I'm likely to be that character/do that thing/s

[@SageDarkwind]

I'm guilty of this myself, but TALKING OVER EACH OTHER!!!

[@defiledsoul1658]

Really easy to do over online games, its big oof

[@gabriellosson5525]

There's nothing underneath

[@obviouslykaleb7998]

when they don't take things seriously. For example: horror-esque one-shot with like 6 players. The main group was traveling to the haunted, zombie-infested manor, and we encountered an incredibly shady fellow who was on his way back. He said nothing of the zombies and avoided nearly every question we had. He was very obviously suspect. The paladin refused to use divine sense, and nobody wanted to use the ___DM HOMEBREW MAGIC ITEM THAT REVEALS INTENT,___ and so then we sent the fastest two members with him back to the servants' housing (where there are innocent people) to give him safety on his trip. They arrive, and let him in the servants house. They watch for like 5 seconds, then leave. The DM describes how they hear screaming from behind and cries of "You're not supposed to be here! Someone, help! But then they (a small mouse-folk rogue and a tortle monk which is literally just Michelangelo which the other is using as a mount at the moment) said, I kid you not, "no, I'm too fast, I can't hear it." So now presumably the people we were trying to help are just dead. Basically, it's them refusing to participate with the premise of the game. Some shenanigans are acceptable, but it does ruin the experience for everyone if there are too many shenanigans.

[@ray-raypacheco276]

Players who try to get me to prove their point for them. So many times i've had players say, "Oh! There's this item/class/race/spell/ability that definitely exists that lets me do a specific thing! I know there is! No, I don't remember the name or what book it might be in. Yes, it might be homebrew and not official material. No, I don't know where I saw it, but it definitely exists! Can I use it?" Had one player say that there was a Background that gives him a Feat. I wasn't aware of any at the time and all of the materials i had did not include it, but he kept insisting that it was real and my job to find it for him.

[@Oshroth]

Spelljammer adds 2 backgrounds that give feats

[@ray-raypacheco276]

@@Oshroth That may be true, but the example i gave was about five years ago, so well before that book was released.

[@salem-salem4426]

Oh I do have that "I want to play my character" syndrome and... She's a very curious, very inquisitive, very jack of all trades Bard with very light backstory that can be adapted easily anywhere (basically, she search a place to belong, feeling misunderstood or "out of place" for most of her life). Very sociable despite having trouble making deep connection with others, she's not only curious of things but also people. I'm always curious to see how she will evolve, for the better or worst, in new settings and situations. It can definitely work, as long as you embrace your character changing and evolving through interactions with the world, which is ALWAYS something good in roleplaying!

[@T3nch1]

Metagaming - I don't care what you, the player, knows. There's no reason your character should know that. Habitually late or NCNS - I get that IRL can be messy and unpredictable, but if you're life is so unstable that everyone else at the table can gamble on whether or not you'll show up on time for the game, if at all, then you should drop out until you have a more stable schedule. Everyone has to schedule time to show up, some of us don't have more than a few hours a single day a week and make the effort to communicate before there's a NCNS situation. Constantly being late or being a NCNS is disrespectful to the rest of us. Skill jockeys - Just because you have prof in a skill, or are playing a Bard, doesn't mean you get to contribute to every check for that skill. It also doesn't mean you get to decide your own rolls as if you're the DM. Combat laggers - We're not spending 10-30 minutes waiting for you to settle on a course of action. If you don't know what you want to do by the time your turn comes up, select to move to the end of the initiative que. The PC Dictator - Injecting IRL politics and/or policing player's characters even when you're not part of a scene. *Take that tish with you as you exit the hobby* and don't come back. The Klepto - I don't care if you're running a Thief, stealing from everyone you meet is toxic and stealing from other players is a quick way to get lynched. The Edge Demigod - Edgelords can range from amusing to mess with to cringe but if they know how to not be a prick about things then they're not so bad. When you're an Edgelord and *every last little thing* causes a problem for you to the point of you starting OOC fights with other players, then YOU are the problem and need to be kicked from the hobby until you can act like a civilized adult.

[@karenmiles4431]

1) Players who have a "board game" approach. They are more invested in the social aspect of gaming; perfectly happy to eat, drink, chat, joke, and such. Their commitment to the game is limited to rolling dice or spinning, moving a piece, and doing a thing. 2) As others have said below; player not paying attention and needing a recap before they take their turn. Players contribute to how long combat takes. If you add 5 minutes of recap per player (say 6), that's an additional half hour PER ROUND over-and-above the time it takes for their turn. By the end of a 4 round combat, that's TWO HOURS. At a certain point, it's just disrespect.

[@Jaeger_Bishop]

As far as the players who are over cautious, maybe consider that those players have had shit DMs before, who made everything a trap, every interaction a potential railroad, and nearly every NPC was out to screw them over...or if they were nice, the DM just did it to kill them off shortly afterwards and pull on heartstrings. So before just blaming players for being overly cautious, maybe actually try to find out why.

[@majortellandrus2552]

I think 99 percent of these can literally just be summed up with "maybe I should ask this guy why he does that". I watch these videos cause some people have really good answers that I can take to heart, most are just Reddit DnD players being cunts about something another player does and just deeming that person a bad player after one bad interaction. "It's what my character would do" is a REALLY big one that gets talked about a LOT in this videos and I'm not 100 percent convinced that the Reddit DnD community aren't just mad at the guy cause he made a suboptimal play or a play against the other player characters. I mean obviously yeah we all know how commonly that statement is used as a copout, but I've come to realize since watching these that a lot of DnD players just expect the party to mesh and sing kumbaya and hold hands all campaign long when that's really not how it works irl or in fictional storytelling, even in circles of the absolute best of friends. They also expect the campaign to be played optimally without any little going wrong that the DM didn't command, also not how things work in stories or games in general. After watching enough of these it really starts to sound like a lot of these players just didn't like the guy they played with and it had nothing to do with whether they were ACTUALLY a problem player or not. I really think it's just a Reddit thing as well, a lot of campaigns on YT feature a LOT of player behaviors that Reddit thinks make a player irredeemable but those groups, even the unknown ones, don't seem to have the big issue that Reddit does.

[@Ghoulastre]

My dm really gets my paranoia running But thats the fun of It, cuz we both are hella paranoid lmao

[@roguebarbarian9133]

Frankly, I always see that as bad gameplay. Like, I'm paranoid as heck about betrayals, plot twists, or hidden traps, but that's ME the PLAYER. My characters walk into traps, get betrayed, and are shook by plot twists, because they don't know that they're in a story where everything is contrived against you. And I don't want to play a character who lives in constant fear - I suffer from enough anxiety IRL that I don't want to tack on anxiety for my fictional character also.

[@BlueTressym]

To me, the 'piling checks' phenomenon is situational because in some cases, it makes perfect sense. If PCs are consciously looking for something important, why would only one of them do so while the others stand and twiddle their thumbs? It's perfectly reasonable for everyone to look and perfectly reasonable for them to find it if one person happens to look in the right place (i.e., their roll is high enough OR they state where their character ris looking and it's the correct place) Group efforts SHOULD make it more likely that a success will occur; that's the point of being in a group and cooperating. ETA: If the situation means only so many characters CAN possibly find the thing, that's another matter but just arbitrarily deciding 'Only one person can make a check because I said so,' feels adversarial and even immersion-breaking, when it doesn't make sens for the situation. AS foer ebign asleep, that depend son the check. I'ma horribly light sleep and will wake if a pin drops; my gf could sleep through an earthquake. If it's something that could feasibly wake someone, they should get a check. If it's not, they don't. Re. the unprompted rolls. I agree with this in that as a GM, I want players to tell me what they want their character to do: Intention and Approach. However, PCs can do that via RP and GMs can IME, be incredibly dense about that. (I primarily play PBP and it's much worse in that.) I've tried so many times to convey that muy character is trying to learn, perceive, gauge, etc. something and the GM has basically ignored it, even when I'm being absurdly obvious. Yes, I know, maybe they didn't think there was anything to roll for; that's WHY the GM should be the one to call for rolls. Only they have all of the info and thus only they can know whether there's any point in rolling. However, in 9 out of 10 cases, when I've asked OOC if I can roll, they've immediately said yes and on the couple of occasions I've followed up, they've said they didn't know I wanted a roll! *facepalm* It would be useful if players and GMs remembered to add this to their Session Zeros, as every GM does things differently and every player comes to the table with different expectations.

[@ryanfladung8490]

I think I have two. Players who don’t take notes/ pay attention. I’m running a dungeon crawler and my note taker is the saving grace to my non note taking players with all the loot they are getting. My second one is from a player perspective. Take blame for your actions. I once was a newbie who built a parkour rogue. I asked my giant barbarian buddy if I could parkour off him to do a cool attack on the enemies in front of the barbarian. The moment I jumped on my buddy he turned me into paste because he suddenly couldn’t tell friend from foe and he said it was my fault

[@BlackWolfessUSCM]

Its what my plwer would do is just someones justification to be n asshole at the tabke and i cannot stand thisl but my biggest pet peeve is being told that my half elf has to be embracing his human or elf side. wrong. He embraces who is is which means human and elf. dont tell me how to roleplay my character.

[@koryh9802]

When players keep fighting cauae they can't accept no as an answer, (be it from DM to player, or player to player) so for example: A game im running had the Rogue and Bard have a heated argument where the Rogue wanted to have the Bard take an item that could be a great power up to their abilities but the Bard said "not right now, im tending to my hurt sibling" Rogue insited he take the item cause it could help heal the sister, Bard kept saying no and to leave him alone this went back and forth for like 5 mins and all im thinking is "GUYS FOR FUCK SAKES JUST LEAVE IT BE; WE CAN CIRCLE BACK TO IT LATER"

[@vampire9545]

Gonna have to force initiative outside in this parking lot with yous with the "can I make a X check" jawn. But maybe its just etiquette. The check question has to be included with the exact action that would even require it. The story is the players while the DM supplies the pens and topic they're writing. We really need to have better understanding of passive skill checks thom Like doing an insight check, technically asking for a check is less roll and really asking if ur passive insight is tinkling which may trigger a roll to adjudicate same with perception. Like my wife HATES my 20 in passive perception. But, the key is that 20 is just a lower threshold trigger for a passive skill to kick in.

[@trueblade39]

Dismissing other players' ideas, telling them they're too complex or just not letting them do what they want because it interferes with the way "the game is supposed to be played". Passive aggression as a way to make other people feel like they're the bad guy for standing up for themselves. Basically, any behavior where one person tries to act like they're not the problem, the other guy who is just trying to have fun/enjoy themselves/contribute is

[@somniferousSirenSocial]

I feel a bit better knowing that none of my behaviors are on this list and several that agitate me are not unique to my vibes. Odd thing to feel normal on, but I'll take it.

[@josephradley3160]

0:50 The amount of session time that has been wasted because members of my group haven't applied their level up in the week between sessions makes me angry.

[@assortedfruitcup]

The friend of the DM who knows what is going to happen in the session as he helps with ideas, then gets annoyed when someone asks questions about a certain encounter or environment that doesn’t pertain to their own characters actions

[@Czarro672]

Being anti-homebrew. This mostly goes for DMs, but I've seen it with players too.

[@Her_Imperious_Condescension]

For players like that, there can be no imagination or creative interpretation. There is only The Handbook, and what is in The Handbook is Law.

[@Czarro672]

@Her_Imperious_Condescension EXACTLY! Playing an imagination game and complaining when people use their imagination is genuine lunacy.

[@crona3316]

I love being part of a group that embraces homebrew so long as you just run it by the dm. Gonna play a Bloodhunter who's order is about killing mages for her backstory/plot cause none of the other orders felt right. Hyped to play this character and have her messing up those annoying dumb evil wizards

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

@Her_Imperious_Condescension You also mean the DM, right?

[@roxxdude1]

That one about asking to make a skill check... I dunno but I think its just pedantic. As a DM, I find it very helpful if someone mentions what kind of skill they're trying to use to accomplish their goal, and dnd IS a game. That means it has rules and mechanics we use to play it. Asking to play the game... pulls you out of the game?

[@ruggedlemmings9163]

Rules Lawyers tend to irk me the most when they get out of control with it. Like it's good to have someone that's memorized the handbook forward and back as it does keep people from out-right cheating, but I'm a believer in that some rules are fine to be bent a bit without straight-up breaking them. So when you've got someone at the table that's just "Well, actually..."ing every 5 minutes it slows the game to a crawl and severely hinders people's ability to actually have fun with the game.

[@Thundarr100]

1) Doing something obnoxious and then saying "Its what my character would do." 2) Metagaming.

[@jasonrustmann7535]

This. I hate the for the lols type characters. Ones that do stupid stuff, just because. Especially if it doesn't make sense their character would act like that.

[@Keiji555]

Being in an RP heavy campaign, and refusing to engage in any role play with NPCs, unless they kiss his ass, and getting bored with them like they are toys to be tossed away. And he wonders why the other characters are so great. In a campaign that has lasted more than a year and a half. And he's been there since the 2nd or 3rd session. And he still refuses to work with other NPCs, and refused to work together a thorough background. As far as the fidgeting goes, maybe a stressball of some sort at the table would be best. Oh, and creating a tank build, only to end up hiding behind the mages cause he doesn't want anything bad to happen to his character. My mage was a glass cannon that was going up to tank, and for the majority of the campaign, was giving that character the stink-eye.

[@BrenTenkage]

for me, I get extremely infuriated by players who don't pay attention to the given situation, now I understand spacing out occasionally when someone is in the limelight roleplaying, but in the middle of a battle, you should be paying attention so when its your turn you can make an informed move. Also people who interrupt other players thoughts and planning, its one thing to be like "good idea but mind if we try this" no its interjecting right in the middle of someone talking about the plan, especially if its an important situation (I am the captain in a star trek tabletop game...this happens a bit too much for me ugh)

[@CoyoteGris]

Player behavior I hate. 1.- not paying attention to the DM. 2.- making an optimized powergaming character to use as a Coward who leaves the party alone every encounter and runs away.

[@TheStratovarian]

Just know your character abilities. I get if a niche option opens and you need to check how it might work. I've never used disarms/grabs/athletics before as much before in pf2e, so I've had to brush up alot. We have a warlock like guy that just seems to check out on this, and it feels bad when theres a just a disconnect of sorts with them at the virtual table and interacting? I get he's made his pc for a different part of the campaign (Kingmaker) but the early game just. well. he feels like dead weight sometimes. And I hate feeling that way about them.

[@camwyn256]

8:28 yeah. This is a role playing game, not a roll playing game

[@dustinmccollum7196]

Here a roleplay tip. So for the story about the rogue sneaking off while yall are planning. In character turn to the rogue(where they was and say wht do you think about this plan rogue) or something similar. Yes your meta gaming but it actually in character acton.

[@kelseylogas1580]

1) Refusing to engage with anything at all unless its combat. 2) Refusing to engage with another character at all. About anything. If i talk to you IC and i get monosyllabic answers, or you shut me down entirely, why are you playing an RPG? 3) i was literally told by another player that he knew everything he needed to know about all the other characters. He hasnt even begun to scratch the surface about my character and hasnt engaged any other character at all.

[@Noblehowl1]

Hold up hold up hold up, I wanna make sure I understood something correctly. Circling back to the story about the DM with 5 players age 25-60. I agree people being glued to phones and not paying attention is annoying, but from I understand the situation they described was as follows: The two oldest players, one of whom is 60 according to them, were planning/trying to kill another PLAYERS character in a combat encounter, but were pissed off at said player because she was talking to a other member of the group? Also being on her phone, sure, but engaging with another player at the table? The fuck are those two people on about? I know that it may be a harsher system than D&D, maybe one that involves pvp, but that reeks of entitlement.

[@MorinehtarTheBlue]

I don't believe they were engaging with anyone. They were indulging in cross-talk out of game. Or at least that's how I interrupted it. Another form of same behaviour as with the phone in that they aren't engaging with the game. Which is why the DM is mad and supporting the older players conduct. In my opinion PvP isn't going to solve the issue but is going to be divisive. Trying to solve above table in game isn't a very viable solution. And to some degree it isn't the players problem to solve but the DMs.

[@b4ne56]

If you want people off their phones? Start Dming standing up. Walk around them voice act your Npcs

[@chrisadams1814]

I honestly don't get how people cannot pay attention at the table. I mean I'm slightly hyperactive so I got to be doing something with my hands when I'm not actively doing something, which has resulted in me coesning my guns while planing dnd (playing over discord with role20 so i was alone in the room then, thats still at the table though) and i never missed whats going on.

[@Renegad3420]

Ooh, so early to an upload. Nice

[@Lilith_Xolaani]

Constant out-of-character / off-topic talking during DnD time.

[@genericguy5998]

I just want my players to use an actual character sheet so they won’t be on their phones (or a computer for 1 player) so much. They have been using electronics for that this game but I’m going to be running Strahd soon and they seem to be ok with using an actual sheet for that so that’s good 👍🏻

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

Why do you care if they use phones for their characters?

[@Czarro672]

You do realize that some people with disabilities literally can't use a pen and paper sheet, right?

[@tlkensei2]

Constantly being funny. Or trying to be. Not taking the game seriously, not joining with the feel of the campaign. Not roleplaying. “My character does X”, NO its “ I do X” “my character says to x” Just freaking ROLEPLAY IT. Always playing “exotic” races (furries, always fkn furries), and trying to run broken builds. It’s usually both at the same time, all of the time!

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

@@tlkensei2 You sound like a guy who hates fun.

[@Sepherif]

Player behaviour that irks me: -Interrupting other characters rp with a quip or off topic comment that derails the conversation. Also just in general hijacking rp. -Players not knowing/updating/tracking their sheets in session or between sessions and blaming it on ‘bad memory’.

[@jonathancarlson6127]

The game is not a simulation for your sexual and/or serial killer fantasies. If you even use the word "r*pe" as anything more than an intimidation roll set-up, I will cease playing.

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

You had a point in the first half, not gunna lie.

[@Her_Imperious_Condescension]

Oh yeah? Ripe. Take that.

[@jonathancarlson6127]

@@Her_Imperious_Condescension YOU MONSTER!!!!

[@jonathancarlson6127]

@@addison_v_ertisement1678 Too many mofos trying to live out GoT stuff. It's a non-starter, for me. I would love to DM an evil campaign, but good golly does it get overly dark fast in visceral fashion. I'm a DM- not a therapist.

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

2:03 Honsetly, deal with it. If they don't know anything about the world by the time you are starting the campaign, that's on the DM. The DM needs to tell the players beforehand so that they can know what they're getting into. There's nothing wrong with wanting to play an old character, or a character you've had in the works for a while, but there is something wrong with hiding crucial information from your players. This would be like the DM only mentioning a homebrew rule when it stops a player from doing something, instead of at the start of the campaign. 4:23 The other characters don't need to know the first missed something in order to double check. People double check stuff that might seem goodnat first, or just not believe someone hasba perfect skill all the time. People ask "Are you sure," all the time, especially if it's something important. This also goes for the person complaining about PCs being "overly cautios." How do you know there's no reason? People don't automatically trust others, and I'd think people would be more hesitant inna world full of shapeshifters and theives. 10:04 I honestly don't see how they could make sure they could safely cast fireball using the plan they wanted to use while only asking one question. If they only asked "Can I safely cast fireball," the DM wouldn't have any idea how they could, and could just change basic facts about what's happening in order to make aure the player can't, or just say "Yeah, sure," without the player even thinking. 10:07 The only thing bad about listing what a character can do is if it's done in the middle of the game. It's important to know what a character can do at the *start* of the game so that any player could either come up with or suggest a plan to the player. 13:22 Tell me you don't care about other people being even slightly ADHD without telling me you don't care abiut someone even slightly ADHD. People with ADHD don't figit with things because they're bored, they do it because it's hard for them to sit perfectly still for long periods of time. Even for stuff they like doing, they sometimes have to be fidgeting with something. BTW, finding another table won't help in any way other than them not having to deal with you. You only care about yourself not having to be around them.

[@dreamcream3738]

2:03 No, it's on the player to have the common decency to ask "Hey, will this character fit with the setting or the party?" I'm not going to run a Wild West campaign that is themed around cowboys and greenlight the player who was absolutely dying to play their Plasmoid Genie Warlock who is just trying to play Majin Buu. There's nothing wrong with having a character you want to play, but you have to read the room and see if they will mesh. You can't cram a Harem Anime Protagonist into Curse of Strahd and expect the DM to give you a bunch of Waifus. 4:23 This may be a semantic thing, but I'd rule "Hey, everyone who wants to do a perception check, roll at the same time." Don't try to "brute force" getting the answer you want. If three players didn't find anything, and they scoured every inch of the room, a "just in case" roll feels more like a "I refuse to accept that the DM could possibly have the jump on us" kind of move

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

@dreamcream3738 1st, Yes, the players should play characters that fit the setting, but it's on you to tell them what the setting is. Telling players what the setting is isn't *only* about making characters; its also about the player deciding if they like the setting or not so they can decide if they want to play. If you only reveal the campaign by the time the players get there, and there's a high chance you're forcing them to make new characters in the spot for a campaign they might not even have any interest in. 2nd, that'snot what happened in the example. You can't exaggerate even farther just to make yourself look right. The only thing those players did was double check a single role. Your solution of having all of them role at once definitely works, and that's the only thing that needs to be said. You don't need to make assumptions in bad faith.

[@pbtenchi]

Fidgeting can be a necessity for a neurodivergent player.

[@dreamcream3738]

Keyword was "disruptively". Autistic people, especially those who were given ABA therapy, can and have learned to keep their fidgeting to a non-disruptive degree

[@suedenim]

As can phone use

[@tlkensei2]

Fair comment, but if they aren’t engaging with the game properly they may not be welcome at the table.

[@pbtenchi]

@ Fidgeting is actually shown to HELP them focus.

[@defiledsoul1658]

The issue is if the fidgeting is disruptive to the table/session. Just because ita good for you, doesnt mean you can use it as an excuse to reduce the quality of another persons game. Always a balance.

[@darcraven01]

2:00 i think the problem there isnt the character having an indepth backstory, its that the player didnt leave room in the backstory to justify the character being in a different world (both in how he would get there and why he is there).

[@MorinehtarTheBlue]

Not that kind of different world. Unless you meant something else you are making it sound like an isekai. They're talking about characters fitting the campaign setting. Your point about the player needing to leave room is right but they aren't in a different world. They've written a backstory with no connections to the campaign setting or just outright doesn't fit. The room they needed to leave was to fill out details that are more relevant to the world in which they are meant to have lived.

[@danielhale1]

Something about recent videos that I've found very distracting is the poor voice-to-text at the bottom of the screen. It's extremely inaccurate with which words it picks, where it puts punctuation, etc. Either paste in the actual post, or don't include the text at all (or maybe just use this feature for closed captions, since that is opt-in). I like this channel, but this attempted use of AI is not treating viewers right, and not honoring the people who posted the original comment.

[@BarrakDraconis]

"The rules don't say I can't..." (insert absolutely unhinged edge-case garbage that the rules don't explicitly forbid, but 100% do not support either) (insert equally unhinged nonsense that the rules DO explicitly forbid, but only if you've read the whole book and understand a few critical keywords) (insert complete bullshit that only works if you read only the parts of the rules that agree with you and chose to ignore everything else in those sections)

[@BrawlBringer]

3rd lol

[@SteveMichael]

Pronouns

[@Czarro672]

So you hate when people use a basic function of language, got it.

[@addison_v_ertisement1678]

@Czarro672 Oh, so you're one of them. This person is right. DMs need to know more about your character than they do about you, and players need to know more about the setting and plot that they do about some strangers pronouns. Also, people who force their personal pronouns into the limelight are often the most obnoxious and toxic people.

[@NguyễnThịNgaga]

Showed this video to my boyfriend and now we have a new plan to laugh more and fight less💋