D.I.Y Plates vs Glass Sharpening Stones

[@ClearAdventure]

I have anxiety and panic attacks, and your videos, with the sound, movement, your voice & explanations in achieving this goal is incredibly soothing to my mind and spirit. Thank you, brother! :-)

[@christopherkarr1872]

"I have panic attacks, but seeing a person on youtube waving knives around makes me feel better." :P

[@clapzontop3395]

@clear adventure I feel that, anything that can distract you for just a moment can feel like a world of a difference. the tunnel has a light, chase it! Best of luck

[@Localghosts44]

I have really bad panic attacks also and videos like these are life saving

[@CarnivoreConservative]

Sound like a liberal to me.....

[@jamiegibson1010]

It's always fascinating to watch a craftsman ply his trade. Your repeatability in your strokes are amazing. Thankyou.😁

[@robertbirkholm9292]

I'd love to see a series of videos comparing knives and sharpening gear at different price points, like $10, $25, $60, $120, $250, and $500 knives and where you start to see the biggest drop off in increased performance vs increased price.

[@7784000]

I think there is definetly a range where I would expect the "drop" (beyond $50 for a stone) but the point is that everything depends on what you give weigth on. Some ppl just want a good feel using an expensive stone and make the whole sharpening process a ritual. If you need a sharp knife that does its job, you should get a $50 knife and a 1000# stone and maybe a coarse one for reprofiling and thats it. Regarding knives, I think its literally the same unless you care for material quality, custom design, steel hardness and so on. Than there is no limitation on price nor performance.

[@WinStunSmith]

OUCH! 😬 seeing you pass those knives over that brick is painful! LOL...excellent video, once again. I’ve learned a lot about sharpening from your channel, and, thanks to you, don’t give myself stress migraines when I have to sharpen my knives, anymore. 👍

[@johncraig3372]

+1 on buying a set of plates, I do like the longer video format. Just got my third Dalstrong knife. In my return email to them I mentioned that I learned about their knives through your youtube channel. Got a nice reply that they like working with you! Right on !!!!

[@Burrfection]

email me at [e-mail]. thanks for watching and stay in touch. many more giveaways and knife DIY projects on the way.

[@LorneSzuto]

if you want a cheaper alternative then an aluminum plate. I made my stones with glass tiles from homedepot for $1.50 a pop CAD. straight as an arrow and perfect for sharpening my straight razors.

[@gregworrel2623]

Link? I used some glass tiles in a bathroom project and discovered that they were not flat so that is something to watch out for with some glass tiles.

[@MTMith]

Very impressive results! I was surprised that the sheets handled edge leading strokes so well. Thanks for sharing

[@Burrfection]

thanks for watching and stay in touch. many more giveaways and knife DIY projects on the way.

[@mastercraftsman8199]

I have to thank you for posting this. I had my aluminum cut already and my 3m lapping film is on its way. I can't wait to get started.

[@livydman]

Nice! I sharpen for a living. In order to access the benefits of finer grits without breaking the bank for pricy stones, I started spraying the backs different grits of sandpaper with 3M 90 Adhesive and applying it to a big piece piece of dead flat granite from a place that makes headstones about 10 years ago. Then I got some tempered glass shelves at a garage sale which turned out to be dead flat. A month later I had a custom glass shop cut 18 3x9 tempered glass plates for me. I’ve moved on to Shapton and other solutions since then. I never considered steel plates.

[@Chinookman]

livydman “aluminum” you meant. Lol

[@tombolt6789]

Ha, ha, ha, ha....Loved the video because I have been using the Lapping film for a few years and they have proven themselves over and over and over for me in creating a sweet edge on my knives. I will not abandon my stones but to get such a glass edge on a knife is something magical as you so experienced. I loved your thrill of discovery. Keep on lapping.

[@musicman8841]

I never comment on KZbin videos but I have to saw I loved this video, watching you sharpen those knives was mesmerizing!!!

[@1734245]

I stumbled across your site about a week ago. So very lucky. You are so knowledgable and skilful yet so unpretentious.

[@shonuffisthemaster]

I appreceate your enthusiasm for sharpening, and especially trying to find cheaper ways to do it. i think the cost does put off allot of people. great idea mounting the sandpaper on aluminum plates. ive done glass and i think i keep getting little bits of glass corners breaking off and contaminating thibgs. ive used aluminum plates for mounting atoma plates and stropping substrates, ill have to try it for paper too now. ive tried sandpaper and 3m microfinishing film, and found although they do work, the cost ends up being more in the long run and i dont like the feedback as much. the thing you said about being able to feel everything on the 1 micron paper is really true, i found it quite distracting and fruatrating despite my efforts to keep it as clean as possible. i believe also that small pieces of burr embed themselves in the paper and thats partly what you feel. there are some good budget stones out there too, like the imanishi 1k / 6k combo stone, or the suehiro cerax and rika series. the rika 5k in perticular is a great stone for the price! as far as the glass stones, i honestly dont think their worth the price, i think they are over hyped (as all shaptons) and the grit ratings are exagerated. their "15k" is equivelent to most manufacturers 10k. I have dozens of high end stones and I was not impressed with the loading, finish or feedback of the shaptons, especially for the price. you dont get allot of stone thickness wise for that price, and they are not significantly harder / more wear resistant than other full sized stones. go with suehiro, imanishi and nubatoma if you want to spend some money. I would suggest you try and change your technique a bit to use the full stone, right now most of your sharpening seems to be happening right in the middle of the stone, this os going to limit the life of the stone allot. the typical japanese technique of having the edge facing you for half of the work, which you seem to be using, is harder to get consistani think. my theory is this technique became popular in japan because of the prevalance of single bevel knives with a wide bevel thats easy to register on the stone, and not really needing any other feedback than that, and just became the common technique even though i dont tink it works for smaller bevels as well. ive found when teaching people to sharpen they are much more consistant when they can see the spine of the knife above the stone. i have them switch hands and do a simple back and forth method with their thumb placed in the spind and riding on the stone (wirh some electrical tape wrapped around their thumb on the lower grit stones) to act as a sort of guide. being able to see the spine and also get in the ballpark with your thumb is a huge advantage to people consistancy wise. also please do some tests other than the ubiquitous paper test! it really dosent tell me anything other than youve attained a basic level of sharpenss.

[@makenchips]

I was so glad to hear you call them plates and not stones. Watch other channels and listen these guys call them Stones blows my mind! The same with diamond plates they definitely are not stones

[@James-ye7rp]

That was awesome. Thanks for doing this for us. I have seen the same material used on float glass in woodworking videos. Nice job. I like the way you get so excited.

[@khlah0710]

Hi Ryky finally got my act together and have used 2 plates with the finest grit, the white foil and the green. I started on a King 1k/6k stone then hit the white for 20 strops per side, wiped the knife then the same on the green. I would express my delight at the edge and polish I achieved but that would probably involve an expletive or two :) Many thanks for all your help and ideas, Keith (UK)

[@Burrfection]

NICE!

[@hernancoronel]

Hey interesting math you apply there! At $10 per plate, $2 per sheet and keeping in mind that you cut each sheet in four that would make each plate $10+$0.50+$0.50=$12 so that'd be $36 for the 3 plates. Round that to $40 or maybe even $50 if one crazy sheet is much more expensive (you don't mention that however). Thanks and keep up the great videos and DIY info!

[@Bialy_1]

Tools and most likely the shipping cost...

[@rodgerparsons361]

Great diy I am starting a knife sharpening service as a supplement to my social security I have been a knife guy my whole life and would love a set of yours. There is a really is a Zen to knife sharpening each one has its own spirit thx for your vids. the blade is truth...

[@pathemamike]

This is really random, but I really like watching (mostly listening) your videos while I work. I find the sound of the knives on the stones really soothing. I'm a software engineer, so my brain is pretty active during the workday (and I have a one track mind), so sometimes music is distracting, and podcasts have too much talking. Either way, I still watch them when I'm not working to learn stuff. Thanks for the videossss

[@Burrfection]

thanks for sharing

[@vazap8662]

Very well done man! Curious to hear more about to assemble these plates.

[@rogerscott5566]

I am a woodworker with 48 years experience. I have a Trend diamond plate 300/1000 I finish with the Shapton 16000. The 300 side of the diamond is mainly used to keep the shapton flat. All of my chisels and plane knives have a 1 to 2 mm secondary bevel. I can take a shaving so thin that you can see through it. Also by having that secondary bevel I can resharpen in about 1 minute. 15 seconds on the 1000 diamond until there is a burr from edge to edge, then to the 16000 shapton for 15 seconds. Done.

[@GlueFactoryBJJ]

Just a thought, but instead of using aluminum plates, you could also get 1/4" glass plates cut to a custom size for cheap. I've used 1/4" glass with drywall screens (120 grit at Lowe's/Home Depot) for over a decade as a stone flattener (with 1 sheet of paper towel to keep it from sliding). The really nice thing about your idea of using adhesive paper attached to a reusable plate(s) is you can select larger than normal sizes for larger blades. I have a couple 9" and 10" gyuotos and trying to sharpen them on a 2.5-3" x 6-8" stone can be frustrating to get a nice smooth tip to heel stroke going. It would be easy to cut the plates to a 4" x 10" (or 4.25 x 11, depending on the size of the sheets) size for cheap and then have a good size for longer knives. Also, be sure to deburr the edges of the metal plates as they can be as sharp as a knife from a sharp saw's cut. Doesn't have to be much, just enough to take the edge off. Even just one quick pass with any metal file should do it. If you use a glass plate, the glass cutters should knock off the edge for you. If not, then using some sandpaper or emery cloth should do the job. FWIW, using very low grit wet/dry sandpaper on glass (like what you can get from your local auto parts store) is an old school method for sharpening knives, especially if you don't have your stones with you. Wet the back side of the paper and the water's surface tension will hold the paper to whatever flat surface you use. I hadn't thought to use the high grade 3M paper you bought. Nice idea.

[@T.I.M.5]

Very cool. I already use this paper for my wood working chisels. Scary sharp edge. Can’t wait to try it on my knives. Well done.

[@radustanciu2445]

Wow, very nice project! I think it would be a great stropping system! I don't think they could realistically substitute the stones- Shapton Glass or others, but they seem better than leather strops ( for non convex grinds) . Thanks A LOT for the idea and demo! The sharpness test at the end was an enjoyment and your reaction said it all! No need for edge close up...this time...kidding... When I try to "make it rain " at home , I get angry comments and the broom stuffed under my nose by my Missiz...you get thumbs-up!!! I envy you... Great two part series!

[@Burrfection]

they are not a replacement. just a fun addition for stropping needs. thanks for watching and stay in touch. many more giveaways on the way.

[@katana24]

waking up in the morning have breakfast and enjoying a nice long sharpenng video, what a nice way of starting mi weekend, thank you Mr Tran

[@Burrfection]

many more on the way. thanks for watching and stay in touch.

[@andergraph1]

Grabbed some Aluminum stock from our production stock and ordered some of the lapping film. A little dawn on the aluminum makes it entirely bubble free. It worked fantastic! I have one of each 12 micro, 5 micron, 1 micron and the .3 micron. Great DYI project. Thanks for sharing this.

[@Burrfection]

let me know how it turns out!

[@andergraph1]

I have ran through 10-12 sharpening’s on the DYI stones. I am not crazy about the lower grits, they have a completely different feel from any stone I have used, it does work however, just gives little or no feedback to me. I tried a bunch of different knives with various points of dullness and several different ways to sharpen with the stones. I nicked a few minor spots on the very end sharpening the traditional way. I tried circles and hand holding, which felt better, for some reason. But, I came away liking the backwards stropping method and hand holding better on all the grits, regardless of the dullness stage. The 2 higher grits (14,000 and 80,000) I really like for stropping, I feel that they hands down beat my leather and they are a definite keeper. They do load a lot of material, but a pink eraser seems to clean it quickly. I think I still prefer the water stones to the lower grits. I will continue to play as I have at least 2 more times to cover the stone and experiment. It was fun to play around with. Thanks for the idea and the project. I had the shop cut me 8 plates so now I can make some finishing stones to give as gifts. Oh, btw I did find that just doing 1 per block allows me to store the good side facing each other and I do not have to worry about damaging the PSA sheets.

[@JackFromTheKitchen]

i've just made set of plates for myself an test them today and i'm really imprest from the results. i sharp my zwilling cermax on the whet Stones and plates between. i used 1000 grit stone than 9 micron after 3000 stone than 6 micron, 8000 stone and follow with 3 micron, 1 micron, 0.3 micron and finally 0.03 micron film . sharpnes is amazing never had experience that sharpnes. push cut on toilet paper with no problem. feels really amazing. Ricky thanks for that great idea. recomend for everybody looking for Perfect edge. Will test the knife at work today. cant wait to slice some tuna sashimi.

[@Burrfection]

haha. right on. thanks for sharing your experience. post a video!

[@TheMrpotatoes1]

I taught myself to sharpen knives. I thought I was good until I watched your videos... Great work my man!

[@Burrfection]

hey Jordan, i'm sure you are very good at what you do. maybe i've had more practice. thanks for writing.

[@niftytubeman]

The 3m film with a light hand is crazy sharp and does not need to be flattened. I did the same thing with plate glass years ago. Stainless steel if you can get it ;) Shapton glass hones are amazing.

[@hyfy-tr2jy]

Also...the idea of using sandpaper and plates is nothing new, but instead of aluminum typically people have used thick plate glass, which is absolutely dead flat. I would worry that some aluminum wouldnt have the same degree of flatness that plate glass would. Give it a try and make a set with plate glass instead (it might even be cheaper)

[@XhellscreamX]

I agree, however i'd be worried about chipping on the glass, where as the plates will never (probably) break.

[@koruki]

Great idea. I might call my glass guy get some prices for tempered glass

[@GR3YS0RG4N1CS]

Actually glass isn't perfectly flat unlike metal can be. Glass is a much harder medium to make perfectly flat than metal.

[@tcseacliff]

you can buy float glass. it is naturally flat when hot as it is "floated" out onto the water when they make sheets of it! ,just will need to be aware of that shortcoming of chipping! but aluminum will dent also if mishandled!

[@flx6807]

Usually cnc machines have tolerances around .015mm this is maybe flat from a normal persons viewpoint but in the world of machining you are always searching for more precision. Flatness is no big consideration when doing this ad you can get a diamond plate and do the last bit yourself if you are really concerned.

[@darrenlam4189]

Haha, I'm a first time viewer of your videos, and I actually got excited when you did the cut test for the DIY plates. Nice videos! PS. I would definitely pay for a set of plates if you set them up to order!

[@Burrfection]

email me at [e-mail]. thanks for watching and stay in touch. many more giveaways and knife DIY projects on the way.

[@kellyvcraig]

Nice tip. I have an Edge Pro and buy aluminum I run through my table saw to make my own blanks. To that, I attach Harbor Freight diamond plates I cut up on my metal cutting band saw, various stones and leather charged with chromium oxide, mag polish and rouge. The 3-M product looks like it might be a nice addition.

[@rafioli6851]

I use all diamond plates. I clean them with a nice 82 cent ceramic bathroom tile I picked up at home Depot. Leaves a slight slurry and tactile feel to my dmts. It cleans whetstones like a champ too 😃

[@TeddyRoooosevelt]

I'm not sure why I find this so soothing to watch...

[@Burrfection]

haha. thanks Teddy. until next time

[@madpharmyhuma]

I became interested in sharpening with hand plane knives, lots of information here to absorb, very good

[@luistapia1942]

You can just erase the metal buildup off the microfilm with a Hi polymer eraser. Brings the film back to 90% most of the time. Dont use abrasive erasers.

[@76CzarekP]

i gave up buying expensive stones. got myself cheap wet&dry sandpapers (240 for chipped blades, 600,1000 for sharpening ,1500,2000,2500 for polish). even before stropping knives are hair popping sharp. love your videos though, very relaxing

[@Burrfection]

thanks for watching and stay in touch. many more giveaways on the way.

[@Caffeine.And.Carvings]

Got 5 shapton stones, and the Diamant lapping plate. Granted, I use them mainly for my chisels, but boy they are worth the money. Looking forward to use them on my knives.

[@JonLee108]

Around 27:25 I see you're using a much higher angle on one side than the other. Why is that? Thank you!

[@marciotsuo6046]

Make it rain, hahaha nice vid Ryky

[@Burrfection]

thanks for watching and stay in touch. many more giveaways on the way.

[@mauricem.9014]

Hey Ryky - i ordered the aluminium plates an eBay for about 5 bugs ... perhaps it is the cheaper way. And it works absolutely fine! Thank you for the idea!!! 👍

[@brekkoh]

What did you search for to find them on ebay? Kinda tough to find ones in a sharpening stone size.

[@mauricem.9014]

Ok.. what i have to say is, that i'm from germany.. but i thought that its nothing spezial, no matter what country you're living in. I searched for "aluminium plate" or "aluminium sheet".. pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=182410094953&globalID=EBAY-DE

[@augusth6244]

Remember, aluminum can be cut with standard woodworking tools. So if you get something that is 3x wider than you want, just get 1 and cut it into 3 pieces.

[@nonplayablecharacter4815]

What kind of bugs

[@Crazyknives]

Joseph Zoltan 😂 bucks!!

[@ernie548]

I've bought tempered glass, which is really flat and hard plus can come with rounded edges, and added the 3M sheets to those. Works pretty well. I got the idea here and did not wish to work at getting machined metal, which is not that hard either but I just did it all online. Its decent concept and works.

[@user-iv1mg8pt5j]

Where did you buy the tempered glass from and what are the sheets called he's talking about on Amazon?

[@panzerleute5504]

Love watching your videos, they are super informative. Unfortunately most of the moderately priced gear you show is not available here in Australia, so i'm going to make a set of your "stones" and see how I go. Keep on sharpening!!

[@tp7988]

What a great idea! Congrats on proving out your theory. I'd be really interested in seeing what the long term results will be for the DIY plates.

[@Burrfection]

those are on the way. thanks for watching and stay in touch. many more giveaways and knife DIY projects on the way.

[@rehmeyer77]

you can also use cut granite as a base for your 3m paper.

[@andreasforsberg7163]

Yeeeeeees, please put me down for a set. Wow, that is extremely nice of you Ryky!!! Andreas Forsberg

[@Burrfection]

email me at [e-mail]. thanks for watching and stay in touch. many more giveaways on the way.

[@andreasforsberg7163]

Email sent :)

[@IamNemoN01]

I have Shaptons up to 30,000 grit. I got mine when they were still pretty new on the market, and I think the price has risen since then.

[@stratsw]

Hi, many thanks for excellent video. I recently purchased a YAXELL GOU 101 layer chefs knife and needed some instruction on how to care for it and just found your Chanel. There are probable many better knives out there but it’s good for starters ! I have subscribed as I’m grateful for the your instruction on equipment and knife sharpening skills. Good luck from the (UK)

[@brekkoh]

Ricky is the Bob Ross of stropping.

[@Burrfection]

THAT is funny. i have not heard that name is decades....

[@Dennis-zu8xb]

I found it in your description, sorry to bother you, love your show, thank you very much

[@earlearl8850]

Send me some of your fantastic products, please! You have the most Amazing show! It is truly worth watching!

[@madcatmk3]

Wow great idea! I'd love the higher grit ones.

[@lilindadudu]

Best video ever!!! Hope you get more subscribers, they need to see this!!! If you're not a knife maker those 3m are totally the way to go or even you are, I was using traditional stone and they're mostly wasted getting it flat, plus paper made polishing other part of the knife so much easier. Unless you want go traditional way, good inconsistency of the edge can be homogenous. like Japanese tea bowls can be expensive cuz it's more humane, same size perfect bowl are only in the Walmart.

[@Burrfection]

thanks for writing. thanks for watching and stay in touch. many more giveaways on the way.

[@chuckyz2]

Amazing results! Would like a 14k. Giveaway or Pay. I would say the DIY plates won that competition. But most likely because it was a 14k vs 10k. Longevity is going to be the determining factor on the paper. If it will do 30, it is definitely a great budget option. I finally was able to polish on my new Rika 5k and it did refine my edge noticeably after the Chosera 800. And stropping made it even better. But not that good. 14k followed up with green on leather would be as sharp as one can get a knife. Then edge retention might decrease a little. Or possible chipping. Still, gotta have it. Great video. Thank you!

[@Burrfection]

email me at [e-mail]. thanks for watching and stay in touch. many more giveaways and knife DIY projects on the way.

[@tbrew8222]

This is how I do my straight razors. You can simply lay a hair on the edge and it will be two pieces. I use the NON glue backed A.O. version, and cut the sheets to strips. For backing substrate I took the glass from a garbage glass top end table, cut it to the same size strips as my lapping film strips, and use water capillary suction to hold the films to the glass. I used old diamond plates to tame the freshly cut glass edges. This way I have several grits ready for progression without changing films. The psa (glue) version of film was way too hard to remove often, and i didnt want 10 plates floating around. I get over a dozen uses from one strip... With exception of the 5um.. it seems to lose grit at a faster rate, bit the other grits seem to break down slow and simply get finer rather than drop their aggregates bond and float away. 5um, I get about 8-10 uses. I use almost no pressure, and the strips last forever. For knives, i would use psa diamond for lower grits and AO for near and sub micron grits, mounted to my preferred sharpening style plates (i can see this being a great alternative to generix ruxin style stones). My edges seem to loose something when I try to go from .3 to .05, so I finish on .3, then again on .3 with wet printer paper between the glass and lapping film (another reason i use non psa film). This has just enough give to smooth out the edge a ton, without really putting a convex on it.

[@jasonorman9579]

so I've been doing this for 3 yrs. now but i use plate glass. the plate glass can be found and cut to size at most any hardware store. you con also us lapping film without the adhesive back for $1.25 a sheet (i think they could be a little less) and double sided tape for $3to $4 a roll.

I have an assignment for tomorrow and I watched this video... And no, I don't regret , I'm sold! Now, onto the next video: DIY 80,000 Grit Polishing Stropping Plates Under $70 :)

[@alanmccoll6490]

That was a good idea. Now you are one of those guys who likes a crazy sharp edge and mirror finish! lol Like you were saying in the begining of your episode.

[@Burrfection]

i like sharp edges, no lie.

[@guillermoanic]

When using the DIY plate it looks like your lifting the heel of the knife a bit. Probably when trying to avoid damaging the paper. A good idea might be to record slow motion videos with a nice close up just to check if your keeping contact with the stone/paper throughout all the edge.

[@Diabolus1978]

He do it with both and when he pulls towards himself edge towards himself he misses the tip of the knife

[@AfricanSouthernCross]

Great upload, beats the old idea of sharpening expensive knives with the usual manufacturers “knife sharpeners”

[@arcanix51]

Paul Sellers does an excellent "How To" for sharpening wood working chisels using wed-dry sandpaper and strop. it works VERY VERY well from my own personal experience.

[@taylorreptar7898]

oh damn, i want one of these so damn bad!! no, i NEED one 😭 too bad i cant even afford $10 at the moment, family priorities come first, but holy shit that works amazingly perfect!

[@jeroenannema607]

I would love to win a set of those plates. I was amazed how well they preformed. I'll be watching the rest of the video's as they Come. keep up the good work.

[@Burrfection]

thanks for watching and stay in touch. many more giveaways and knife DIY projects on the way.

[@hyfy-tr2jy]

@ Burrfection... i really enjoy your videos and have been sharpening knives most of my life as well and I was wondering, after watching your videos it seems (i have this problem as well) that when you are completing your passes (particularly your "backhand" passes) that you get poor engagement of the last inch or so of the edge on the stone when you are stropping and polishing. I find for myself that i have to be very intentional about making sure i get good contact each pass with the last inch of the tip of the blade....is it just the video that makes it look like you arent getting good contact or do you suffer the same problem i have? Thoughts? solution?

[@jeffreymelton2200]

does any one notice that on his forward stroke it appears to be at a much steeper angle than the backstroke

[@208414]

Great video! Hey Ryky, you should try sharpening your Gihei Hap40 knife on these plates. I think that the 3M abrasives will likely not preform as well with a harder steel. It will be interesting to see the longevity of the abrasives for sure.

[@Burrfection]

that video is on it's way. thanks for watching and stay in touch. many more giveaways and knife DIY projects on the way.

[@pistolade9956]

First time viewer, will definitely subscribe, but I'm just curious if you made any sort of update video for the plates as to how they wear, and generally durability information. Much thanks and keep it sharp

[@GregAspenson]

Bravo! Can't believe how sharp you got the Dalstrong with the 3m progression.

[@GregAspenson]

Also, I would be interested in the 4500 and 14000 combo!

[@GregAspenson]

Unless you can get a 10,000

[@Burrfection]

email me [e-mail]

[@Felipera_]

I'm not convinced of any sharpness until I see you drop a hair on the blade and it gets cut in half longitudinally like in old cartoons. Also, I'll steal some of these DIY stones for my chisel sharpening station :p

[@kaldo_kaldo]

I was really looking forward to seeing how smooth and wonderful the knife would cut after the 60-80k stropping!

[@pauljs75]

I'm still a bit curious how well the unglazed back side of some ceramic flooring tiles may compare to ceramic sharpening stones. (Not all are the same though, you're looking for ones with the smooth back.) Not to mention that you can buy a single tile by itself for under $2, so if it works then it's going to be very cheap.

[@richardc6932]

Do you occasionally flatten these Shapton with another stone. I hear that they wear quickly.

[@Paulzm1]

Incredible Sharpness!!!!!

[@JamesEscobar]

You are brilliant, your show is brilliant, subscribing for sure and will pass it on!! thanks for what you do!!

[@Burrfection]

haha. love it thanks and stay in touch

[@Clark_808]

When you realise you just watched a 41 minute video Without ads

[@Burrfection]

is that good, or bad?

[@Clark_808]

Burrfection a definite plus

[@Burrfection]

right on! don't recall seeing around before. welcome!

[@conrad2001]

I thought this knife was a 5050 bevel. But you appear to be sharpening it as a single bevel. did you rebel the knife?

[@Sarzah]

I had the same thought, seemed like very different angles.

[@michaellee5084]

impressed, now if we can find out how long the 3m lasts....

[@Burrfection]

working on that

[@TheWalrus0608]

I use 3M lapping films against a glass backing when sharpening my pocket knives on the KME system. They are 4 inches by 1 inch and one film will last me about 7 or so knives with blade lengths of about 4 inches. Perhaps this can be extrapolated to your set up with larger films and larger knives? Now, it should be noted that I use them after I finish with my 1600 grit stone and use three different grits (6, 3, and 1 micron feature sizes) of lapping films. If I only used two or one grits of film or started from a coarser I assume I would get less knives per film since I work each film until I get bevel to a uniform level of cloudiness or mirror polish, depending on how you look at it. Anyway, I think it's a great sharpening technique that offers many advantages over traditional stones or diamond impregnated steel bars.

[@buddhamack1491]

Could be very interesting. Consider the aluminium plates as a once off expense. As you worked out around $2 per sheet for replacement sheets. Depending on how long they last it could work out quite cheap, provided 3M keep producing the materials needed. A stone equivalent to 60,000-80,000 grit would cost a small fortune. Someone that has knives for show and wants a good polish on them it might be useful as a cheap option. It's really quite a clever idea. I ended up ordering a pack myself as they're cheap and I can get plates made for nothing just cost of materials.

[@Burrfection]

they are a steal "pun intended" when you break down the cost like that.

[@buddhamack1491]

I had no idea that you would use those for sharpening! I thought you would only be able to strop on them. I didn't realise that the knife was VG-10 steel, that's a nice steel. But I think my next knife will be a Yoshihiro Ginsan. I need to start sharpening knives for friends or start a side business. I love to sharpen knives but mine don't get blunt often enough so I don't get to enjoy the process regularly. It's almost a meditative process if you solely focus on the task at hand.

[@Burrfection]

i'm testing more, but i think a knife over 62 hrc would wear the sheets out too much to use long term. will see how they do for my 66 hrc knife.

[@jetobey5656]

Over 65 years of finish honing, on any kind of stone, I have never needed 10+ strokes per side on a high quality blade. I do not P & P and never have, but my edges are wicked sharp[tm]. Please explain. that was with odf time oilstones and Arkies.

[@reyrey1a]

This is a cool idea. Count me in for the giveaway. Will look at glass too.

[@m.s.l.7746]

Can't help but notice the different degree of your stroke from one side to the other... Also you don't always get the whole blade. Can you elaborate please?

[@buggsy5]

Your idea is far from original, at least among woodworkers. The real old-timers say they learned the sandpaper on a backing technique around the time of WW II. Here is a link to a "homage" to the rec.woodworking article that started the D&S Scary Sharp System (tm). www.woodbutcher.net/scary.shtml#original I happened to be an active member of that group when Steve LaMantia made his first post about it. I believe that was back around 1994-1995. That discussion got me started in plane collecting and woodworking. It is impossible to get the sharpest edge by free-handing. The angles must remain constant. But your concept can be adapted to work with any decent knife sharpening jig - regardless of whether the moving piece is the sandpaper/backing or the knife. I have found that plate glass is probably the least expensive and durable backing. If you use wet/dry paper, you don't have the mess of a lubricant or grit floating/removal. A light shot of spray-on adhesive is all that is necessary to hold the sandpaper flat. When I started using the system, I went to a local glass company and had them cut me some 1/4" plate glass rectangles. They cut them out of scrap, so there was no charge for the glass - only for the labor to cut to size and round the edges. I think they cost me about $2/piece. I do not put sandpaper on both sides, just one. Over 20 years later, I am still using the original glass. On my wood planes and chisels, I do use a micro-bevel. Wood is harder on an edge than most cooking tasks are.

[@Sproutt]

buggsy5 hell no a flat rock os the original buddy get your sub 30 year old club out of here... where do you think they got the abrasives from... rocks/ minerals.

[@kellyvcraig]

Yep, I started the Scary Sharp when that term didn't exist and I, like others, needed a way to get to a good edge without spending a fortune. Regardless, this remains good info to those of us always looking to improve materials and techniques.

[@richardsinger01]

John Smith I think you misunderstand the point he’s making.

[@kellyvcraig]

@@richardsinger01, are you keeping it secret?

[@Xxxero42]

Question: why do you flip the stone around when you switch sides of the knife? Is it so you keep wearing on the same part of the stone?

[@jspallin]

Great videos with great explanations. Why do you turn the stone around when sharpening the other side? I liked the overhead camera angle that you used in another video. I'm a woodworking and have converted to DMT diamond plates for my woodworking tools. They cut fast and don't ever need to be flattened. Any reason why they wouldn't work for kitchen knives?

[@janivoutilainen2610]

Lapping films just arrived, and plates are already made, won't have issues with what to do for a few days.

[@danielstorer3422]

Loved this video. Can you show what you do on the daily basis before cooking?

[@sam_ur_eye]

I would definitely be interested in buying a set of plates! Great video

[@Burrfection]

email me at [e-mail]. thanks for watching and stay in touch. many more giveaways on the way.

[@bretleversha]

I couldn’t find the link for the whetstone cleaner used. I think he called it the Sabitoru Rust Remover.

[@keirfarnum6811]

You didn’t explain what the substrate was for the sandpaper. Did you get those specially made? Or did you buy them? More info please!

[@roninara]

Hey, great video! I am new to the world of bladesmithing and sharpening so your videos have been very very helpful!. I see that this video was from about 2 years ago, do you have a good estimate for how long a set will last? I also loved your comment that everyone should enjoy sharp knives, not just the rich! Haha. Thanks for what you do!

[@holopekochan]

Amazing, I just get into this hobby. The Shapton Glass Whetsone is expensive. This is a very good alternative.

[@Burrfection]

It works well enough

[@jhendry12]

Hey I know this is an old video so might not get a reply here but is there any chance you could link exactly what lapping films you bought. I've tried searching on Amazon but there are thousands and I'm brand new to this. I would love to start on some relatively inexpensive homemade plates for some practice. Thanks and love the videos I've got a lot of binge watching to do.

[@toymaker32]

Hello there, truly very impressive, I love using knives, I have made some blades of my own and always sharpened them on a polishing buff with rouge BUT I have never got them as sharp as you have shown in your youtube demo. I would love to know the total cost of these sharping plates you made including postage to Australia.

[@kiltedskipper]

I would love to win a set of these, if I don't get the give away I will probably male my own. This is awesome and am glad I ce across your channel.

[@ared18t]

you can use glass plates instead or tile just check for flatness

[@chansreviews]

How come there's no count-down method for this profile/crescent method?

[@ryanbishop3343]

What is the best way to remove human error from the process. I’m meticulous and the fact that I can’t achieve perfection during sharpening is grieving me nuckin futs.

[@daryooshfatemi]

You have my respect. And thanks for these two great videos.

[@mpoll1016]

Yes I would absolutely pay for these

[@Burrfection]

will have a video announcement in a week or so. have to produce some more plates.

[@tcseacliff]

your angle looked so much steeper on the first edge?or is that the camera? looks steeper to me!?