Désirée Clary - The Reluctant Queen

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@XX-gy7ue
@XX-gy7ue 3 жыл бұрын
this story has always been one of the most intriguing and confusing in all history , and I've always loved it for its amazing twists and turns , and you've done a marvelous job of telling it ! BRAVO !! ( the book and movie have nothing on you )
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it! Thank you very much for your kind words.
@jessrosefawkes2721
@jessrosefawkes2721 3 жыл бұрын
What’s the movie called?
@XX-gy7ue
@XX-gy7ue 3 жыл бұрын
@@jessrosefawkes2721 , " Desiree " , book and movie ( a great read and a great watch - Jean Simmons , Michael Rennie , Marlon Brando as Napoleon , and beautiful Merle Oberon as Josephine ! )
@jessrosefawkes2721
@jessrosefawkes2721 3 жыл бұрын
@@XX-gy7ue thank you very much for letting me know I appreciate that 👍 and I can’t wait to watch it 😀 thanks again!
@XX-gy7ue
@XX-gy7ue 3 жыл бұрын
@@jessrosefawkes2721 , make popcorn , and have champagne , it's a fantastic flick ! ENJOY !
@GoGreen1977
@GoGreen1977 3 жыл бұрын
There's a movie based on Desiree's life starring Jean Simmons and Marlo Brando. It may not be historically accurate, but it's close enough and beautifully filmed.
@henrygardner8418
@henrygardner8418 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! Jean Simmons as Desiree, Merle Oberon as Josephine, and Marlon Brando as Napoleon. A very sympathetic and surprisingly accurate portrayal (considering the free license that Hollywood has to "interpret" history) of history seen through the eyes of a woman. Women's stories are often relegated to the sidelines, and treated as footnotes in history. If you can get your hands on a copy of, "Desiree" then share it with everyone you know!!
@VeracityLH
@VeracityLH 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Going to look for it now. Cherrs. 👍😀
@lucyburr5516
@lucyburr5516 2 жыл бұрын
Movie is based on a book called Desiree, not sure of author
@amy43215
@amy43215 2 жыл бұрын
Great movie!!
@polyglot.basketer947
@polyglot.basketer947 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucyburr5516 Annemarie Selinko is the name of the author (she was an Austrian novelist) who wrote a novel about Désirée, published in 1951.The book has been adapted into movie in 1954 - starring Jean Simmons and Marlon Brando.
@Sorchia56
@Sorchia56 2 жыл бұрын
Desiree has been my favourite book since I was 13! I read it ever year.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't read it yet, but I'll put it on my TBR list. Thank you for watching my video, too.
@stephanieolivier9051
@stephanieolivier9051 2 жыл бұрын
I read the English and German version. Fabulous
@TheSeedpearl
@TheSeedpearl 2 жыл бұрын
@@livesandhistories it's a novel. But surprisingly follows the history and is written from Desiree's perspective. Loved your video.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSeedpearl Thank you.
@mmkraft8103
@mmkraft8103 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. Lovely greetings.
@rociomiranda5684
@rociomiranda5684 Жыл бұрын
I recommend the historical novel "Desiree" by Anne Marie Selinko. I love this fantastic story.
@sarahb5596
@sarahb5596 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this was very informative. My grandmother was a Clary and extremely proud to be a descendant of Desiree and Giulia.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful!
@sandie157
@sandie157 Жыл бұрын
That's really cool.
@davidlogan4329
@davidlogan4329 Жыл бұрын
Desiree Clary, later Queen Consort of Sweden was a fascinating figure. The Swedish royal family today are her descendants.
@torgeirbrandsnes1916
@torgeirbrandsnes1916 3 жыл бұрын
Great vlog! Thank you! The main street in Oslo, Norway is named after Bernadotte. Karl Johan. His son has also a street, Oscars gate. Now you know!
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching and for adding your comment.
@simonedevlin7710
@simonedevlin7710 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the delightful family history of Désirée Clary .It is fascinating how the world royals are related in their bloodlines.Your research and narration is impressionnante.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you for your kind words Simone.
@cynthiarowley719
@cynthiarowley719 2 жыл бұрын
Deseree is an Old movie, and is one of my favorites.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 2 жыл бұрын
That's wonderful, Cynthia. I'm glad you watched mine too. Thank you.
@hanaluong2672
@hanaluong2672 11 ай бұрын
When I first learnt English, my teacher read a story about a 14-year-old girl falling asleep in a city's hall and a male grown-up was very kind to her, taking her home safely. He turned out to be Napoleon's older brother. Probably my English was not good at that time, I assumed that she would marry him later. Only now have I realized that her life had many twists. In a way, she had a lucky life.
@juliancoulden1753
@juliancoulden1753 3 жыл бұрын
Extraordinary ! Thank you! Love these vignettes on the lives of so many people who helped to shape history,but who have now been largely forgotten or overlooked.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Julian.
@rathertiredofthemess2841
@rathertiredofthemess2841 Жыл бұрын
Amazing how the actress that played her in the movie of the 1950s looks so much like her, as if she was born to play the character.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories Жыл бұрын
How interesting! Thank you for sharing.
@falconeshield
@falconeshield Жыл бұрын
It's her reincarnation lol
@trishalamb138
@trishalamb138 11 ай бұрын
Jean Simmons, one of the most beautiful women of the cinema
@LJB103
@LJB103 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. The Swedes remembered the kindness Bernadotte had shown to Swedish prisoners of war, and that put him on the list of candidates for the throne. Queen Josephine brought some of the most magnificent jewels still in possession of the Swedish royal family including the Leuchtenberg sapphires.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 2 жыл бұрын
For some reason I liked Bernadotte. If I am not mistaken, some of Queen Josephine’s jewellery belonged to Napoleon’s first wife.
@LJB103
@LJB103 2 жыл бұрын
@@livesandhistories I know the beautiful cameo tiara belonged to Empress Josephine. Remember Queen Josephine was the granddaughter of Empress Josephine. The Duke of Leuchtenberg was Eugene de Beauharnais.
@sandrapicton6349
@sandrapicton6349 2 жыл бұрын
Very glad she did something for the Swedes, she seems to have been a spoilt brat who refused to be with her husband and child for many years because she loved the pleasures of Paris. What a patient and forbearing husband.
@robertdudley4017
@robertdudley4017 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you as always, her life was certainly an interesting one, have a great weekend.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support. Enjoy your weekend.
@robertdudley4017
@robertdudley4017 3 жыл бұрын
@@livesandhistories My plesure and thank you.
@bittersweetmadam
@bittersweetmadam Жыл бұрын
Desiree could have been on the throne of Josephine.... her turn of luck was incredible.
@kaya_parsomen_bicak
@kaya_parsomen_bicak Жыл бұрын
She was Napoléon's first great love 😢
@fablb9752
@fablb9752 Жыл бұрын
I would rather say that SHE was crazy in love for him - however he very soon neglected this young lady . In a (very moving) letter, she expresses her sorrows (after Napoleon made it clear that he was to marry Josephine instead) and wished she would quickly die. She was not quite eighteen as these lines were written
@anaavila3825
@anaavila3825 Жыл бұрын
I wish napoleon stayed with Desiree she was really in love unlike Josephine
@fablb9752
@fablb9752 Жыл бұрын
@@anaavila3825 Josephine had been in love when very young with her unfaithful 1st husband Alexander of Beauharnais. But having grown older she was a bit cynical when she finally married Napoleon. But, as an aristocratic widow, she suited much better to Bonaparte’s aims . She was still charming by then and a very experienced woman : Napoleon for sure had never known such a creature and forgot about everything about Désirée’s pure and tendre feelings towards himself (but he was feeling somewhat guilty about her as it would later show) . Josephine had as much feelings for Napoleon as she could have (we know for sure that she fell for Hippolyte Charles when her husband was campaigning in Italy, but it clearly seems that he was her last lover) and was devastated every time he cheated on her .
@fablb9752
@fablb9752 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, I of course meant tender feelings (french corrector ! 🤯)
@ivankesisoglu
@ivankesisoglu 2 жыл бұрын
Queen Desirée went to the opera (Life is a dream)and fell sick ,so she returned home and died the same night .she was 83 years old. So after her the Bernadotte dynasty began....
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment, Ivan.
@ivankesisoglu
@ivankesisoglu 2 жыл бұрын
@@livesandhistories ❤
@hardyquinn9442
@hardyquinn9442 3 жыл бұрын
SO interesting! Thank you so much for your intimate focus on the lives of these incredible women in history. The work you put into your videos is obvious.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your comment. Much appreciated.
@esterherschkovich6499
@esterherschkovich6499 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you always interesting appreciate your time on these videos🌸🌸🌸
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
You are so welcome. As always, your support is greatly appreciated Stella. Thank you.
@annstillwell730
@annstillwell730 3 жыл бұрын
There is a book on her life called Diseree and a movie of the same name with Marlon Brando. Both are good though historical fiction.
@nayadedecumbe7407
@nayadedecumbe7407 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing the movie, read the book, then my interest turned to Napoleon himself
@muffassa6739
@muffassa6739 2 жыл бұрын
The movie and the book were so off, the movie was a Hollywood product showcasing Brando, and Simmons. The book though enjoyable was historical fiction. Your videos are they best, I've enjoyed every one. Are you a History Professor if you are your students are lucky. Bless you from the USA and have a good holiday.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 2 жыл бұрын
@@muffassa6739 Thank you for your comment. KZbin showed it to me just now :) Yes, I studied history. Thank you for watching my videos.
@falconeshield
@falconeshield Жыл бұрын
*Marlin
@springfauna1465
@springfauna1465 3 жыл бұрын
What a fascinating story!! Thank you for telling it so well!!! Also, this portrait shown of young Prince Oscar bears an uncanny likeness to the late actor, Gene Wilder when he was young! If he had dark hair, there's no way you could tell them apart.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dee. I'm really happy you enjoyed it! :)
@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 3 жыл бұрын
A French general becoming king of Sweden and the ancestor of the current Swedish royals has to be one of the more improbable events in European history.Another Napoleonic general who became a king was Joachim Murat who was made king of Naples but he didn't last long not having survived the defeat of Napoleon and was executed by firing squad after Waterloo.I think Murat's wife was related to Desiree Clary somehow?
@kaloarepo288
@kaloarepo288 3 жыл бұрын
I made a mistake -previously to making Murat king of Naples Napoleon had made his own brother Joseph king of that area and it was Joseph Bonaparte who was married to Desiree Clary's sister -they subsequently became king and queen of Spain and its vast empires -so both the Clary sisters became queen consorts.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@fablb9752
@fablb9752 Жыл бұрын
Joachim Murat’s wife was Caroline née Bonaparte, a sister of Napoleon himself _ and so one her other bros happened to be Joseph, married to Julie née Clary and Desiree’s sister. All these persons were closely related indeed . You were not mistaken at all
@krbailess
@krbailess 2 жыл бұрын
I am really enjoying your work. Thank you so much for posting.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it! Thank you for your kind comment.
@MyLady120
@MyLady120 Жыл бұрын
Great story. Thank you so much for sharing this. I truly enjoyed this. ❤
@OWOT-re5jf
@OWOT-re5jf 3 жыл бұрын
Her husband was kind and patient with her. She spent years away from her only child but finally moved to where she had royalty and riches handed to her.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Thank you for watching.
@alexanderbuchholz2009
@alexanderbuchholz2009 2 жыл бұрын
It does sound like he was too good for her, doesn't it? (*Marie)
@ZiggyWhiskerz
@ZiggyWhiskerz 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah she was trash
@karihansen1672
@karihansen1672 Жыл бұрын
Yes he was nice but they both have lovers he in Sweden and she in Paris
@fablb9752
@fablb9752 Жыл бұрын
@@karihansen1672 Désirée was not known for being untrue to her husband . The thing I know about her is her rather peculiar behaviour towards Richelieu (the famous Cardinal’s great-great…nephew) . Infatuation from her part is highly probable as she remained in mourning after his death (the « poor man » had always managed to avoid the « annoying queen »). Both were no lovers (at all)
@elizabethbower2168
@elizabethbower2168 3 жыл бұрын
What a fascinating video I had never heard of these people before… Thank you for sharing
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you for watching.
@Blaqjaqshellaq
@Blaqjaqshellaq 3 жыл бұрын
Another interesting subject would be Napoleon's sister Caroline Bonaparte, who married the famous cavalry general Joachim Murat. Murat became King of Naples, but he spent most of his time fighting in her brother's campaigns, so it was Caroline who was the de facto ruler!
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
Will look into it. Thank you James. Best wishes to you.
@henrygardner8418
@henrygardner8418 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo! Very nice work. I majored in French history, and this a perfect introduction to this period of European history. How strange are the ways of destiny and fate. Jilted by Napoleon, her blood flows through the veins of many current monarchs. Also jilted by Napoleon, Josephine's descendants sit on every throne in Europe, except Great Britain. Napoleon left no legitimate heirs. Who's laughing now Napoleon??
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
Well said. Thank you for watching.
@TheSeedpearl
@TheSeedpearl 2 жыл бұрын
You made some really good points.
@lmnll2742
@lmnll2742 Жыл бұрын
Napoleon is more famous than all of them. Fact.
@edithengel2284
@edithengel2284 Жыл бұрын
@@lmnll2742 But in spite of all his aspirations to establish a dynasty, his only legitimate heir died without issue, while Josephine and Desirée have numerous descendants. He may be more famous, but there, he was totally unsuccessful.
@lmnll2742
@lmnll2742 Жыл бұрын
​@@edithengel2284 It doesn't matter that much. He had many descendants anyway, like Josephine and Desiree, and nobody cares.
@zero_bs_tolerance8646
@zero_bs_tolerance8646 11 ай бұрын
Very good. Thank you.
@susprime7018
@susprime7018 3 жыл бұрын
Truth, stranger than fiction.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
This what I thought too reading and researching about her life. Thank you for watching.
@Asplera
@Asplera 3 жыл бұрын
What I listened to is the story of a provincial girl with a very simple and rather superficial mind who loved the comfort and luxury of big city life rather than seeking greater purposes of life. She led a life according to her own desire and want rather than committing herself to duty and service for the others. I don’t envy her so-called ‘fairytale’ life.
@superstraight8402
@superstraight8402 2 жыл бұрын
While hurting others that loved her. What a “strong woman”.
@LyricalXilence
@LyricalXilence 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@AmiNa-nw5ld
@AmiNa-nw5ld 2 жыл бұрын
Not all people have that sense of responsibility and duty, some just don't have deep thoughts. Maybe she wasn't raised on values.
@edithengel2284
@edithengel2284 Жыл бұрын
Her life was no fairy tale. She lived through the incredibly violent and frightening Revolution, and was thrust into a life she had not been raised to live, and had no taste for. Even in Paris she was not always safe. The Swedish court treated her with disdain and humiliated her because she was the daughter of a tradesman. She was perhaps not admirable in every respect, but it is not a sin to be simple or even to enjoy comfort, luxury, and the big city.
@rogerstill71
@rogerstill71 3 жыл бұрын
If that portrait is accurate, she was one of the most beautiful women on earth. But what a tangled life!
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
She was, wasn't she? Thank you for watching.
@fablb9752
@fablb9752 Жыл бұрын
Desiree ? Charming, but no beauty I’m afraid (Jean Simmons brought her own good looks to Desiree’s character) . And Napoleon (not used to sentimental and shy virgins) soon got bored of her (he was to marry Josephine instead : much older and being a widow by then, she was more experienced and was gifted with interpersonal skills, which was not the case with a very young Desiree Clary). Bernadotte, becoming Joseph’s brother-in-law, was an ambitious man. He tried very hard to forget about his jacobin past (and to hide his famous motto « death to the tyrants », « tyrant » meaning any monarch by then, tattooed on his chest)
@amilton1015
@amilton1015 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much I like your voice. Audio perfect.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
So nice of you to say that. Thank you for watching.
@htf5555
@htf5555 Жыл бұрын
marèchal bernadotte one of the few who safely came out of the whole ordeal with all his spoils intact “I can only say Bernadotte let me down… I can accuse him of ingratitude, but not of treason”
@ccasey1904
@ccasey1904 Жыл бұрын
This is a lovely vignette, BTW
@merleharvey4783
@merleharvey4783 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful voice and ever interesting
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly.
@derickally
@derickally 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fascinating!
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! Thank you for watching.
@alexeygrankin8203
@alexeygrankin8203 11 ай бұрын
That can be fascinating story to have been hear or known of her life in France and Sweden... 😀👍As Thanks ❤🙏🙏🙏🙏
@williamwagner7511
@williamwagner7511 Жыл бұрын
At last a narrator who can speak!!! No corruption or torturing of names, places or words. Please follow her example. Bill in western Iowa.😊
@patriciatolliver4057
@patriciatolliver4057 Жыл бұрын
Patty-I truly enjoyed this video. I've always wondered what happened to her. Thank you.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it.
@VeracityLH
@VeracityLH 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing story. I'm just getting my feet wet in Scandinavian history, so this was new to me.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed it. In my view, Scandinavian history is really interesting. Thank you for watching.
@lucymaria8273
@lucymaria8273 11 ай бұрын
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@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, Lucy.
@aldenhislop4960
@aldenhislop4960 Жыл бұрын
Watched the movie 🎥 last night Thanks for the history
@PO-dr7tr
@PO-dr7tr 3 жыл бұрын
I am now a new subscriber, who loved the story that you wrote about Desiree Clary....It was concise and insightful into her personal and private life...I love your channel and the way that you tell the history of the historical figures, that you speak about.....I would like it very much, if you can do a bio story about Lady Diane de Poitiers...She was the long time mistress of King Henry II of France during the 16th century...If you could do a story about her I would appreciate it very much...
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
I will look into that, for sure. I am happy you are here. Thank you so much for you kind words.
@PO-dr7tr
@PO-dr7tr 3 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome....I am a loyal subscriber who loves history, and I am glad that you tell such good and compelling truths about historical people from the past....💓
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
@@PO-dr7tr Thank you Pamela.
@ambreeniram2268
@ambreeniram2268 2 жыл бұрын
Lucky she was, since her husband became a prince and eventually king. Her son met her after twelve years. That's cold. But truly she was blessed by God.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes all one needs is a bit of luck.
@lmnll2742
@lmnll2742 2 жыл бұрын
Her husband became king because he was married to her, not the contrary.
@falconeshield
@falconeshield Жыл бұрын
Hestia probably lol
@sephmanatac8569
@sephmanatac8569 Жыл бұрын
Desireé should have a full-length film. Her story is much more interesting than the overrated british queens!
@team3d343
@team3d343 Ай бұрын
She does starring Jean Simmons and Marlon Brando
@kimberlyperrotis8962
@kimberlyperrotis8962 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video!
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kimberly.
@bernadettemcpolin1904
@bernadettemcpolin1904 2 жыл бұрын
Vasa was the name of the then Swedish ruling family, the last of whom had no children to succeed them. It was Marshal Jean Baptiste Bernadotte who established the present Royal Family of Sweden who are there to this day and whose family name is Bernadotte.
@josepinheiro6064
@josepinheiro6064 Жыл бұрын
I love your voice both accent and inflection.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories Жыл бұрын
So kind of you to say that. Thank you so much.
@katiamarin9425
@katiamarin9425 Жыл бұрын
Amazing ❤️
@edithengel2284
@edithengel2284 Жыл бұрын
A very nice presentation of Desirée's life, but I think her later days as queen of Sweden were not so terribly happy: Her husband the king (who had grown cranky with age) appointed her ladies in waiting without consulting her, she didn't speak Swedish and was thus somewhat isolated, and she was viewed by the nobles as "only a merchant's daughter." Her son Oskar predeceased her, to her sorrow, and she became eccentric in her old age. But she was admired for her good heart, and for refraining from interfering in politics. Not really a fairy tale ending.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories Жыл бұрын
Yes, you're right - Desiree's final years were rather sad.
@petrahaslbeck22
@petrahaslbeck22 3 жыл бұрын
I read the Book Desiree, wonderful
@TheSeedpearl
@TheSeedpearl 2 жыл бұрын
I did too..a long time ago in High School. I'm amazed how true to the actual story it is. The dialogue is fictional for the most part. The historical parts are quite accurate. It was a wonderful read.
@nayadedecumbe7407
@nayadedecumbe7407 3 жыл бұрын
Oh well, royalty in Sweden nowadays are so French. Love it, thanks for this video.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it. Thank you for watching.
@42kellys
@42kellys Жыл бұрын
But it was not a fairy tale. When we outsiders learn about it we do not understand her days, her feelings and her pains and struggles. From the outside it may have seemed to be a fairy tale, but living it was not one. If one reads between the lines or reads her story in more detail in the book Désirée, one learns a lot more about her as a person.
@Jkelly-vw9un
@Jkelly-vw9un 3 жыл бұрын
What wonderful life... Lucky lady
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, she was lucky. Thank you for watching.
@domramalaja
@domramalaja 3 жыл бұрын
In Sweden, we are taught that she was born on the 8th of November 1777.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
I know that there are various dates of birth according to different sources. The one mentioned in the video is what I found in the books I used as my sources. Thank you for watching.
@elizabeths4371
@elizabeths4371 3 жыл бұрын
Really Interesting!
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so! Thank you for watching.
@РаисаБолтус
@РаисаБолтус 11 ай бұрын
Не знаю английский язык, а перевода на русский нет. Очень жаль, с удовольствием посмотрела бы фильмы исторические
@superstraight8402
@superstraight8402 2 жыл бұрын
She seems like a terribly selfish person and terrible wife. Probably never got over napoleon and treated a good man like crap because of it.
@sash8099
@sash8099 2 жыл бұрын
Her husband was surprisingly good considering those times. Perhaps choosing a kind spouse is more important than any other quality. Desiree certainly chose wisely after rejecting so many suitors. It's ironical though that she ended up doing what she accused Napoleon off being distracted by Parisian life.
@TheSeedpearl
@TheSeedpearl 2 жыл бұрын
@@sash8099 very wise observation. I read the novel called Desiree when in high school (I'm now in my 70's) and am amazed how close to reality it was. I fell in love with Bernadotte, from the way he was described. The book is written thr,ough the eyes of Desiree. I'm going to look for it and re read it.
@bittersweetmadam
@bittersweetmadam Жыл бұрын
She always loved Napoléon. But Bernadotte had failed so many things and wasn't a very successful man.
@edithengel2284
@edithengel2284 Жыл бұрын
He was not such a great guy. The Swedes almost kicked him out at one point. He became more and more conservative as he aged, and was rather eccentric by the end. His growing conservatism and his affairs made him a less than congenial partner for Desirée as they got older--he picked her ladies without consulting with her.
@AnnaGoldberg-f4t
@AnnaGoldberg-f4t 11 ай бұрын
I love Jean Baptiste Bernadotte who became Charles XIV, King of Sweden.
@kaushiksheshnagraj7176
@kaushiksheshnagraj7176 3 жыл бұрын
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@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I am happy you like and appreciate my videos. I will keep in mind your suggestion for a future video. Sending you my best wishes.
@Bethi4WFH
@Bethi4WFH 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting to hear this lady’s history, and a ‘thumbs up’ for a very good commentary. Regards from England.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly.
@WildFreeinWestVirginia
@WildFreeinWestVirginia 3 ай бұрын
I namedmy daughter Desirae because of this woman
@ceilidhkympton8571
@ceilidhkympton8571 3 ай бұрын
I almost did. Was my favorite book for many years.
@TrocaTheNero
@TrocaTheNero Жыл бұрын
Karl XIV Johan (Charles XIV John in English) was not Charles IV John in Norway, he was Charles III John. Charles I of Norway was the medieval king known as Karl Knutsson Bonde or (incorrectly) as Charles VIII (he was actually the second Swedish king named Charles, but the later king Charles IX took his numeral from a list of kings that included fictional kings, the medieval kings of Sweden did not use numerals (like Charles VII or more correctly Charles I who is known as Karl Sverkersson) although Karl Knutsson is named as Charles II on his wife's tombstone. Karl XIII was Charles II in Norway (Bernadotte practically ruled as crown prince but Charles XIII was king in 1814 when the Swedish-Norwegian union was formed), thus Karl XIV Johan was Charles III John and his grandson Karl XV was Charles IV in Norway.
@patriciapalmer1377
@patriciapalmer1377 3 жыл бұрын
12 years old ? They matured early then, but not that early. Of course it was her money, those larcenous Bonaparte's. Passed around like a designer purse this girl.
@ccasey1904
@ccasey1904 Жыл бұрын
She certainly was very lucky.
@SharonGinter-bt5pl
@SharonGinter-bt5pl 9 ай бұрын
😮I read the book eons ago. It s nice to see the proof.
@alexanderbuchholz2009
@alexanderbuchholz2009 2 жыл бұрын
Désirée was actually born in 1777, Julie in 1771. So there was only a 6-year age difference. (*Marie)
@secretagent86
@secretagent86 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo for a tale well told. earned my subscription. Hey, anyone want to become a king? let's find one in france. I always wondered WHY they could not find someone in their own country???
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Glad you liked it.
@henriettanovember4733
@henriettanovember4733 3 жыл бұрын
The Swedish royal line at the time weak. The Swedish nobility not much better. So getting new blood in perhaps best option?
@MCorpReview
@MCorpReview 3 жыл бұрын
She has her picks of Napoleonic kings and emperors. Sounds like 👍 she would hv been a better empress than Josephine.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Thank you for watching.
@kimmccabe1422
@kimmccabe1422 3 жыл бұрын
Strong!
@saraswatkin9226
@saraswatkin9226 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a mixup of depicted brothers?
@heatherjones2701
@heatherjones2701 Жыл бұрын
Joseph Bonaparte wasn't engaged to Desiree, only her sister Julie, whom he married.
@deegeraghty9426
@deegeraghty9426 11 ай бұрын
How women did not die of pneumonia wearing dresses like nightdresses in early 19th century, is incredible ! Seen film Marlon Brando as Bonaparte. Great film.
@patriciacurcio9455
@patriciacurcio9455 6 ай бұрын
I saw the movie 🎥 with Jean Simmons
@aparnarajesh
@aparnarajesh 3 жыл бұрын
Will do on maud of wales
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
I'll put her on my list. Thank you for watching.
@Blaqjaqshellaq
@Blaqjaqshellaq 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Princess Kate identifies with her? (She too comes from a "nouveau riche" family.)
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
You are right. There are some similarities ... Thank you for watching James.
@allatgoddess8961
@allatgoddess8961 3 жыл бұрын
I don;t think Kate knows about Desiree and or Bernadotte.
@helene4397
@helene4397 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't she Duchess Catherine at the moment?
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
I have read your comment on the "Queen Charlotte" video. (for some reason I could not reply there). Yes, there was some animosity between Queen Charlotte and Desiree Clary. Thank you for your suggestion on Thomas Alexandre Dumas as a topic for a future video.
@susanmorgan8833
@susanmorgan8833 3 жыл бұрын
I really can not see Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, identifying with someone whose love of a glamorous life in Paris was more important to her than her husband and child.
@patriciacurcio9455
@patriciacurcio9455 6 ай бұрын
I thought Napoleon, married Josephine, not. Desirae
@Oleksiy-wq8hr
@Oleksiy-wq8hr Жыл бұрын
Моя Клари!!!
@LindaCasey
@LindaCasey Жыл бұрын
🕊🕊💞💞
@haneyletpajo2922
@haneyletpajo2922 4 ай бұрын
She told Napoloeon she would never be happy for the rest of her life and she lived through that. An unhappy, bored woman just trying to be high until the end of her days is what I get from the video.
@DivineMotherMoonSunLyricQuo17
@DivineMotherMoonSunLyricQuo17 2 жыл бұрын
Aw my past life. Funny. Me n Johan are together now still. He goes by John . My name is Regina I go by Gina though.
@adrianoazambuja1921
@adrianoazambuja1921 2 жыл бұрын
Meus sentimentos...Deus os tenha....
@doraKitty23
@doraKitty23 11 ай бұрын
Bonaparte should marry desiree probably his end would not be isolated
@justthink8952
@justthink8952 11 ай бұрын
Wow, a woman who don't want to be queen!
@suzysuzy4799
@suzysuzy4799 Жыл бұрын
💚🙏😇🙏💚
@charliekezza
@charliekezza 3 жыл бұрын
A very strong willed women in a day where a strong willed women was not a good quality
@superstraight8402
@superstraight8402 2 жыл бұрын
Strong willed. Mistreating her son and husband for decades. What a Queen.
@ambc8970
@ambc8970 3 жыл бұрын
Desiree, Une marseillaise en suede.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Thank you for watching.
@cadaverdog1424
@cadaverdog1424 Жыл бұрын
She was the third niece of Harold, King-Regent of Norway and Fifth Baron of Warsterleistershropshire-on-Avon… her son was Louie ‘The Bastard’, inbred son of Lord Rupert Dingle-Smythe, future great-great-grandfather of Lady Diana Dodi-Spencer, late of Paris❤
@niyaburke2692
@niyaburke2692 3 жыл бұрын
Man wtf was in Paris
@frenchartantiquesparis424
@frenchartantiquesparis424 3 жыл бұрын
Everything! When you go, you will understand why people get obsessed with Paris.
@sash8099
@sash8099 2 жыл бұрын
It's not that great anymore
@kam0406
@kam0406 11 ай бұрын
What a selfish, self indulgent woman. She had no respect or love for her husband.
@LyricalXilence
@LyricalXilence 2 жыл бұрын
What a spoiled brat. He should have divorced her and married someone else.
@helenapinnerova1810
@helenapinnerova1810 2 жыл бұрын
But Desiree had quite difficult position at the beginnings in Sweden. There were some royal women living there in the palace and they disliked her. They loved her husband and son. This two were important to them. Not Desiree.
@NeverGoingToGiveYouUp000
@NeverGoingToGiveYouUp000 Жыл бұрын
Napoleon should've had Bernadotte shot, what an ungrateful buffoon
@laughingrightback
@laughingrightback 2 жыл бұрын
She was flat out selfish.
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 2 жыл бұрын
I can't argue with that. Thank you very much for watching.
@hazelmeldrum5860
@hazelmeldrum5860 2 жыл бұрын
I think she sounds selfish and self centred
@whollybraille7043
@whollybraille7043 2 жыл бұрын
"Clueless Desiree"? She was a totally selfish bimbo. Suddenly, I feel shame for my name. No, I'm Danish. We got it over the French and the Swedes! Good video. At least I didn't end up with Marlon Brando. wew
@livesandhistories
@livesandhistories 2 жыл бұрын
You have a very beautiful name. And I'm really glad you are here watching my video :) Thank you.
@desireebrunton4033
@desireebrunton4033 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always liked being named Desiree.. I so rarely had to share my name.
@whollybraille7043
@whollybraille7043 2 жыл бұрын
@@desireebrunton4033 It wasn't the name my parents gave me. I changed it in my teens. Couldn't stand having name so many other girls had. Must say, we're special!
@makutas-v261
@makutas-v261 2 жыл бұрын
Traitor.
@KittKattKlub
@KittKattKlub Жыл бұрын
I was named after the movie.
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