D1 USC Recruit vs D1 Cal Poly Recruit!

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Welcome Niels to the channel and glad to have Jack back! These two are seniors at Corona Del Mar High School, are D1 college tennis recruits headed to USC and Cal Poly, and are two of the best high school players in the OC area. They both like using their big forehands to control the point.
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Ratings:
Niels - 12.2 UTR
Jack - 11.3 UTR
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Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
0:59 - Sigrun
1:27 - Equipment
1:55 - Forehand Grips
2:12 - Racket Spin
2:18 - Set
14:14 - Outro
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[@TheMan-tx7qz]

This is a brilliant example of the level you need to be at 4,5,6 at done of these bigger universities. These guys may not even be starters. Super exciting video. Every junior who wants to jump to a national level or try to play at a decent D1 should watch and understand this is the bar. You have to at LEAST be this good.

[@hsy2448]

So true, I reckon Jack won’t have trouble starting for Cal Poly but USC is a premier program.

[@TheMan-tx7qz]

Niels is 13 in the country which is good enough to starts for a USC type program for sure. It’s really situational.

[@alexmoore3688]

Well of course it all depends on who else’s being recruited . Usc is gonna lose a ton , so Niels better chance to play right away for sure it seems as of now

[@davidcane8011]

Does someone like Niels get a full ride at USC, or are those all reserved for Europeans? 50%? Nothing?

[@hsy2448]

@@davidcane8011 no clue, i think most teams only have 3 full rides to give away so it’s all like half or partial

[@Daniel-rk3vf]

Props to both these guys. Anyone here who's young and aspires to a D1 college slot needs to watch this and understand the level you need to play at. Thank you Niels and Jack!

[@regularmouse4230]

Top D1 slot

[@buffalobob2890]

I'm a 75 year old who plays recreationally 1-2 times per week. Looking back to when I was their age, what a vast difference in the level of play - and I'm talking about in their favor. Good playing, guys! I enjoyed watching you.

[@gabrielfernandez9792]

Jack`s two handed backhand is a thing of beauty. Niels is a beast, great forehand incredible serve. I forecast success for these two at College level. Thanks to both of them, and hopefully we can see them again in the channel. Thanks Winston.

[@Tennisbull-match-statistics]

wow, that's some big hitting! Jack had 64% of 1st serves in but "only" won 50% of 1st serve points and none of his 2nd serve points. His 4DFs made it hard to hold serve. Niels had a big advantage in the 5-8 shot rally length where he won 14 points vs 5 for Jack. That's where Jack had 6 unforced errors on his backhand and Niels hit 6 winners, mainly with the forehand. Full stats on my site. I love that slice passing shot at 13:20

[@smueller12244]

the slice pass was disgusting

[@charlesahweyevu]

I was about to say touch grass until i read your profile name lol

[@tyresecohen7643]

Love the analyzation Winston, even going down into the grips. Really puts this level of tennis into perspective and can help players of this level by comparing each others game.

[@BassByTheBay]

Nice to see some great playing here, Winston! Niels' movement was excellent -- great footwork. Hope Jack's injury isn't serious 🤞. Best of luck to both of these guys in their future college careers. Hope to see them back on the channel!

[@jamesmckinnon9473]

Awesome hitting, you are both fearless on the returns.

[@meekaboi]

Niels will have an easier transition to the D1 level since he has a legit weapon in his forehand. Kid can absolutely rip it with some consistency. Theyre gonna eat his serves if he finds himself above the 5-6 spot, but he'll def get stronger with some legit college strength and weight training. Jack wll also be solid and may have a slightly higher ceiling if takes more initiative and stops hitting off his back foot on his forehand. He'd play an absolutely beautiful point and then follow it up with a few lazy points, which won't fly in D1 where the competition is generally top international junior players, even at low and mid-tier programs. Regardless, both of these kids are super strong players and clearly look deserving of playing D1.

[@emilyme23455]

Thanks for the video Winston, it's always so interesting to see players of different ages, levels, backgrounds etc. play against each other. Very humbling to remember that these high school boys could absolutely kick my ass out on the tennis court 😂

[@tomk5238]

Awesome vid. Great watching good players that arent pros. Really good for learning. Thx Winston.

[@IGNSanity]

saw niels play in ojai this past spring and the level was absolutely insane

[@LegolasD]

great playing guys, it's crazy how good some hs teams are

[@daveobrien2365]

Yeah for real, the high school I went to and the teams in my conference were trash. I played 1 singles varsity freshman year and I was able to beat my #2 singles player left handed, it took 3 sets but I did it. Lol. It ducked because when I would get to sectionals to qualify for state it was always such a shocker coming in because the entire season I barely had to try. Luckily I was able to play at my club and my coach didn’t care that I did that instead of practice with my team but still it was shitty sometimes

[@ilycalebb9913]

bro how good is that highschool team 😭😭

[@WinstonDu]

Too good

[@andrewwhitman4289]

Class of 12 here…Uni and CDM were always such stacked schools back during my days crazy they just have talented kids.

[@neelabhchoudhary2063]

They may just play usta tournaments and skip the high school team. A few players did that at my school

[@conglomeratemass]

@@neelabhchoudhary2063no they play 😂

[@elchanclascocina]

Great level, best I've seen in the channel match wise. For the grip, I think it'd be better if they do the "hand shake" position or the racquet facing to the fences so you can better see the grip! Saludos!

[@MikeSmith-yy1lv]

The two handed backhand out of the air at ~6:00. wow!

[@meinsouza]

high level stuff!!

[@GaryDWJr]

This should be great thanks Winston

[@Drainos2006]

Great match. Very high quality. Winston, have you seen Swing Vision? great to see the stats on these matches, winners, speeds, unforced error etc.. Love your work.

[@RollinLeonard]

Jack stopped calling balls out in the last game. :( I wanted that comeback!!!

[@bgchans]

Maaaaaaaaan, good stuff, good stuff indead. Jack even had the time to fix his hat during the rally! 😂😂😂😂

[@katn3012]

Niels does a great job at point construction! I was rooting for Jack, but unfortunately during the rallies he often ended up on the defensive… especially on his own serve. Overall a high quality and entertaining set!

[@stevewsoundimaging5752]

Would love to see Jack come in on his serve. Niels weakest shot, and there were not many of them, is when he returned serve. Niels moves in for the return and takes it on the rise as a bunt return, which floats a bit. Jack is quick and could possibly pounce on these shots. This is the only time during the point Niels lets off the gas a bit. Conversely, Niels ground strokes are so strong, he might consider standing back on return of serve and take full swings, pushing the server back right a way.

[@DamageFarmer]

Damn these boys can rip it! Good luck to both of them in college ball! Hope they are even stronger next time we see them

[@letrantrung1]

very good match!!! High level of tennis and powerful rallies.

[@darrylp3410]

They had some amazing rallies!

[@aliashir8880]

Very quality game👏

[@IronFudge]

Super high level tennis!!

[@jasonrowland1594]

Great match! Jack and Niels are 2 awesome players. I preferred the outfit that Niels was wearing just because of the contrast. Not too keen on same colored tops and shorts.

[@smueller12244]

Ok phew, seeing both of these very high UTR's get broken a fair amount makes me feel a lot better as a NTR 4.5 who is tall struggling with holding....I always tell myself it shouldn't happen but my UTR is nowhere close to this haha. Niels' forehand is EXPLOSIVE, great match.

[@conglomeratemass]

Wanna hear the funny thing? Neil’s backhand is better than his forehand 😂

[@pleaseenteraname1103]

Cal poly is a great school.

[@gedvalaitis4877]

I'm amazed at the shot tolerance they have. Long, hard hitting ralleys.

[@orion4502]

I find it funny that whenever i play tennis and we end up breaking each other over and over again i consider it bad tennis. But these guys are breaking left and right just chilling lol

[@twinwankel]

Good match. I think Jack was not playing up to his standards. His serve was off and he played defense from the first ball. Never once was he playing on the baseline. I don't think he's been playing recently. Neils also had problems serving but he seems to put enough pressure on Jack to force more errors. It would be good to see a rematch where Jack is playing his normal game with confidence.

[@EdgewoodTennis]

great rally at 5:33 and 6:56

[@aztecterp]

Very high level tennis! They had some really great points. The ability to have long rallies is what differentiates good from elite level tennis players. I hope Jack is OK 😊

[@gabrielfernandez9792]

Long rallies with quality shots. I agree

[@HankHell41]

Niels and I have the same forehand grip. Index knuckle is on the bevel between semi western and western. Perhaps an "extreme" semi western grip

[@vagabond197979]

I can't believe both of these guys are on the same high school team. Winston, do you know how good their school's tennis team is?

[@WinstonDu]

pretty good

[@jaxonbach]

2nd best in california

[@vagabond197979]

@@jaxonbach I would believe it!

[@captainstax4011]

Cdm high school, they reached cif open division finals 2 years in a row

[@tomschannel1568]

Uni from Irvine being number 1, south O.C. dominates SoCal high school tennis

[@lb1011]

Niels, are you from the Netherlands? Or at least your roots are from there? Nice play btw!

[@TimelyAdventure]

These guys hit so hard from the baseline, especially Niels wish so much topspin, would be interesting to see him play against Karue or the other MyTennisHQ guy with a huge serve who played Karue last time.

[@WinstonDu]

Could be coming soon 👀

[@architennis]

Doesn't sound like a close matchup to me.

[@MarcoSolidx]

Would be cool to watch but the levels are far apart despite of our impression based in this game. Karue right now is already at challenger level at the least

[@WinstonDu]

if it's entertaining I'll set it up@@MarcoSolidx

[@davidcane8011]

Might have to join the tour for that to happen... Karue is currently skyrocketing up the ATP rankings.

[@sliceserve234]

I thought red shirt had more pace and better placement on his shots, but white shirt had much better footwork, and we generally can tell the greats from their footwork.

[@domlouis2179]

Interesting regarding Jack's backhand crossover or sweep. Obvious what the goal is with each but dont think I've ever seen someone do that so blatantly. Hmmmm. Nice match

[@elvistrumpet]

at 13:33 how is that point not Jack's??? Does anyone else see that? it was one hell of a return.

[@elvistrumpet]

it looked so in as well.

[@WinstonDu]

ah I messed up the score on a previous point in that game

[@innocentbystander6]

Hey Winston, you should challenge Chris or Michelle from Tennis Warehouse!

[@rajaimrannaseeb5446]

I notice that although Niels said he is aggressive Jack was a lot more overall and Neils needs improvement on the consistency of his serve whilst jack needs to have more accuracy

[@invincible4593]

Hoping I can reach this level someday. Unfortunately I've been hardstuck at 9 for the last 2 years 😭 and only have 2 more year til college.

[@rds4629]

wow to be young. When the guy pulled his groin off camera, I thought he'd give up the match. Impressive he could keep playing... glad Du stopped it at a regular set.

[@TheRmm1976]

I'm pretty sure the worst tennis player on their high school team (maybe even worst JV player) could beat the best varsity player from my high school team back in the day!!

[@genkisudo]

good job, boys! I mean... guys.

[@calebfong8472]

I got to play them in CIF

[@alexpurice9126]

ggs!

[@caotoulei]

"Like and Subscribe" on the fence!? LOL

[@WinstonDu]

yes, not written by me

[@JayYeasmin]

Red guy's serve is often a foot fault on the deuce side

[@billmartin3561]

Impressive…

[@genkisudo]

7:34, it was out FYI lol

[@samster978]

Winston you should do a AMA video

[@WinstonDu]

What’s AMA?

[@samster978]

@@WinstonDu ask me anything

[@WinstonDu]

Could Niels take Felix?

[@micah2237]

Felix of Tennis Bros?

[@WinstonDu]

yes@@micah2237

[@TenisAmador]

I don't think so. Despite Felix UTR being currently at 12.04, people say that juniors UTRs are inflated. And by looking at Niel's results in the UTR Pro event that he played, losing to a lot of 11s and 12s (and losing 0 and 1 to a low 14.3), while Felix recently had a tough match against a 13.8, I think Felix wins this one easily. Obviously Niels is a kid, and is improving, so he can end up way better than Felix. But playing against "adults" is different, and that is why the transition to the pro circuit is brutal. "Regular" good players take 2-3 years of constant beatings until learning the game.

[@Tennisbull-match-statistics]

there is only one way to find out ;-)

[@hsy2448]

@@TenisAmadorFelix 2 years ago at the start of his series would lose to Nils. Now the tour has made him more mature / physical and he would probably win, but it would be close.

[@DanTuber]

Some good rallies. Serving wasn't the best. Neils has more power in his ground strokes.

[@heritage5starnews]

what high school are these two playing at?

[@WinstonDu]

Corona Del Mar high school

[@heritage5starnews]

wowza--i coach high school tennis in georgia and if i could have just one player at the level. very talented players@@WinstonDu

[@fitzmichaelkarlalmiron5717]

Niels reminds me of a grown up matteo

[@WinstonDu]

I agree

[@jakeadams0412]

Beautiful tennis games from both players, badass mofo players. Love those shirts.

[@kokobbe]

great playing! but foot fault sometimes

[@WinstonDu]

Who’s foot faulting?

[@Miikathemachine]

I wonder if these guys could take on retired fedex 🤔😏

[@WinstonDu]

not sure about that lol

[@davidcane8011]

LOL maybe after another 10 years of retirement

[@charlie7531]

I feel these guys have pretty weak serves for their Ute’s

[@WinstonDu]

Don’t think it was their best serving day

[@anonymouslol7010]

weak?? they were amazing!!

[@meekaboi]

​@@anonymouslol7010compared to rec players? Yes. Compared to a D1 player at a mid to top tier program? They're relatively weak. Jack didn't seem like he had the best service day, but his serve seemed the heavier of the two.

[@anonymouslol7010]

@@meekaboi that’s true, but serving is just getting the point started. it’s more rare to get the winner on the serve, so it’s highly more important to be ready for that return to return it well and look for openings to finish the point off.

[@gamerkang4648]

What is up with all these feetfaults goddmann

[@WinstonDu]

I don’t think they were foot faulting?

[@gamerkang4648]

@@WinstonDu 2:40 2:53 4:28 4:45 5:04 9:58 The hind foot crosses the center mark before serving. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4uoeHuAn518e8k @ 14:25 is an example of pro tour foot fault by hind foot crossing before the start of the serve.

[@architennis]

Good catch. @@gamerkang4648

[@davidcane8011]

​@@gamerkang4648lol are you serious? You think you can tell foot faults with this kind of angle? And on the far court to boot??? Smh

[@gamerkang4648]

@@davidcane8011 Assuming the camera angle is balanced dead center, you can see pixels of his hind foot peek out of the center net tape. The first two instances can get a benefit of doubt, but the last one is obvious.

[@lmjpeter]

First!

[@hassanborhot7162]

12 UTR? my arse

[@WinstonDu]

12.2

[@TimTheMusicMan]

Get off the baseline, everyone in college is standing on the baseline, develop a strategy, stop with the 2hbh.

[@neelabhchoudhary2063]

2hbh isn’t going anywhere

[@architennis]

Really. What is this guy thinking. @@neelabhchoudhary2063