[D2R] Thorns Necro vs Ubers

[@mihata-gaming]

I find this kind of fights more interesting to watch compared to the Ubers speedruns

[@Chrisnado91]

The meph kill is wild. Great video and build!

[@goatunnheim]

ty!

[@Bouzalas]

I know it has been some time but if you still read the comments... may I ask why are you using raven frost? The belt you have already has the can not be frozen mod. Why not use a SOJ or some other ring?

[@goatunnheim]

@@Bouzalas SOJ is better😄. I was just testing different gear and post a smooth kill. The combo is not optimized yet!

[@daynsorensen]

Do you think Edge without Bramble would work fine albeit slower? Running a hardcore necro and I would prefer not to find out I'm wrong the hard way :)

[@goatunnheim]

@@daynsorensen Without Bramble is definitely slower. For safety, cap your res and get some revives.

[@JasonPegis]

These get neater and neater!

[@noknownthrone2487]

This is insanely cool. Seems like you could even level with this build... Edge bow alone? I love this concept

[@goatunnheim]

Yes, Edge bow + Amplify damage is super strong. You need a tanky golem or revives to be meat shields.

[@noknownthrone2487]

How budget can this be? Can you clear ubers without using Bramble, and only an Edge bow? This might be my ladder start alt

[@goatunnheim]

@@noknownthrone2487 Yes, Edge bow can even be replaced with Urdar revives!

[@off-meta-michael]

Nice one dude!

[@stofsk]

Is there any scenario where max level Iron Maiden beats Amp Damage's -100 damage resistance?

[@goatunnheim]

Iron Maiden is way weaker then Thorns. The corresponding IM level would be > 50!

[@sandcastledx]

@@goatunnheimit doesn't stack with thorns?

[@mihata-gaming]

0:40 is the golem intentionally amped?

[@goatunnheim]

Yes!

[@withmouthfulsofblood]

big plays 😎

[@jimbojones4440]

How do you cast Firewall as a Necro?

[@goatunnheim]

Trang Set!

[@zaszz]

That's sick. How are you stopping their regen?

[@goatunnheim]

Firewall!

[@zaszz]

@@goatunnheim oh does it tick often enuff that it stops their health ticks?? That's smart

[@goatunnheim]

@@zaszz Yes! Firewall, Meteor, and frequent Poison Nova will do the job.

[@angille]

I mean. you could also just... load arrows into the Edge, lol. but then you gotta hit, which I suppose is a lot easier with fire wall.

[@erick3755]

​​@@angilleprevent monster heal from edge doesnt work on ubers. Works on dclone but not ubers.

[@wizrom3046]

Did you try with thorns AND iron maiden together, on the bosses?

[@goatunnheim]

@@wizrom3046 Iron Maiden is weaker than Thorns, while Amp Damage doubles the Thorns damage.

[@wizrom3046]

@@goatunnheim but does the iron maiden STACK with the thorns? I thought it did?

[@goatunnheim]

@@wizrom3046 Yes, they stack. But Amp Damage doubles Thorns, so you basically have two copies of Thorns.

[@wizrom3046]

@@goatunnheim thanks for explaining. 👍 I thought iron maiden plus thorns would be more damage than double thorns.

[@curtrowland6432]

damm, mephisto just melted!

[@volthan6810]

is there a particular reason for blood golem choice ?

[@goatunnheim]

Highest life; Clay Golem has damage resist and slows target (so less Thorns damage); Iron Golem is clumsy to recast; Fire Golem is also a good choice for Diablo.

[@stofsk]

​@@goatunnheim idea for Iron Golem. Have a bunch of Malices in 3 socket melee weapons in stash and if you lose one go back to town and remake. The 100% chance to proc open wounds should help with this no?

[@goatunnheim]

@@stofsk Between the time you remake and the golem hits, Baal can heal. But I have done a video with Last Wish and Poison Nova some time ago!

[@erick3755]

@@stofsk i was actually wondering if shaftstop or stomshields for the phys reduction would last longer.

[@LittleRedRubberDuck]

Hot damn that looked easy :D And after watching the gear I realize its going to be a while before I get to this point in single player!

[@goatunnheim]

I used expensive items for convenience. But all you need are 3-piece Trang and res items!

[@LittleRedRubberDuck]

@@goatunnheim Yeah the charms looked simple enough as well, but when I saw u needed Sur rune for the Bramble I was thinking I might have to try this with just the Edge bow to start with :D

[@LittleRedRubberDuck]

@@goatunnheim Yeah I am gonna level a necro and try this with just the Edge bow, I think I have a few pieces of Trang lying around :) and if I ever run into the Sur rune I now have something fun to do with it! :D

[@lordzhangfei7534]

Nice one

[@coolyoutubeluke]

Honestly, thorns is just too much fun. D2 and d4

[@sergeytolkachev]

Why no iron maiden ?

[@goatunnheim]

Iron Maiden overrides Amp Damage. The latter doubles Thorns damage!

[@ArkExile]

😮 i like the cut of his jibb 😎

[@busymikey]

Does Thorns stack?

[@goatunnheim]

For different items yes, so you can use Edge and Bramble. Thorns aura from merc won't help.

[@lordzhangfei7534]

@goatunnheim when you say thorns stacks, what exactly do you mean? If he had 20 different thorns Auras all different levels would they all stack together?

[@goatunnheim]

@@lordzhangfei7534 Yes, different items' Thorns add up. But it overrides oskill Thorns (Paladin/merc).

[@lordzhangfei7534]

@goatunnheim when you say an oskill overrides, you mean only other Oskill? So if you had a Paladin with level 52 thorns and a group of another 7 characters with items with all different level thorns from items, these would all stack on top of each other?

[@goatunnheim]

@@lordzhangfei7534 The only Thorns items are Edge and Bramble which add up to 36 Thorns. If you have level 52 Thorns as Paladin, then your output is level 52.