'The train burning on platform one is the 5 30 to....'
@martynpalmer734010 жыл бұрын
engines in these babies were completely revolutionary and at the time had the highest power to weight ratio of any engine in the world back in the day when Britain had big ideas and the political will to see them through to fruition
@mervynsands35013 жыл бұрын
It lived to see another day. Great locos capable of cracking performances.😉👊👍
@formidable3811 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was a fan trip. The locomotive was to haul it all day from Scotland to London but it didn't go as planned. It was a shame as many people had waited for the event for many, many years and a lot of folk worked hard to make it happen. However, the initial problems were worked out and we now have regular 100 MPH Deltic trips on the mainline once more!
@darrenfranklin35697 жыл бұрын
the fire was a known problem for deltics, being a two stroke engine oil would collect in the exhaust collector drum, when hot it would bake and form like a charcoal. and sometimes it would catch fire, not a real problem as its contained in the exhaust system, but in BR days they would have just thrashed the loco to blow the fire/ burnt oil out.
@philnewstead53884 жыл бұрын
Darren Franklin Exactly right, a friend of mine now retired had one do it to him at the platform end at the Cross late one Afternoon and did exactly what you described. It was also a problem with the baby deltic, if they were used on an engineers train on the weekend where they spent a lot idling and then got put on a suburban working on Monday morning apparently a fire was almost inevitable. Of course nowadays the railway would have to be closed for about a month whilst an investigation is carried out and then we'd have to have a public enquiry into the outcome of the report in the meantime the entire fleet would be stopped. How much simpler it would be if the railway was still run by railwaymen.
@timwattison44194 жыл бұрын
Yep, having driven D9000 on the mainline myself I was lucky enough to not experience a collector drum fire, however the problem existed because the drain pipe from the collector drum would get blocked with oil and other drposits and back up into the drum itself, this happened again on 22 whilst on a tour to Paignton a few years ago. No probs though as the then owner sorted it out and it worked back dragging a duff at high speed, 😂😂😂 needless to say, mods were carried out and hopefully fires will now be a thing of the past with 22. 🤞
@philnewstead53884 жыл бұрын
Tim Wattison It's amazing how they ran in service for twenty years with this potential problem and it takes preservationists to try and address the problem thirty some odd years after they finished regular service. It's the same with Duke Of Gloucester.
@AnneInda8 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the memories. I was on this train (and probably visible somewhere in that sad crowd watching D9000 being hauled away into the dark, still smoking). Highlight of my entire trainspotting "career" during my 20+ years in England. I remember as we were approaching York, being pulled by (I think) a Class 47, someone had one of the early GPS receivers and was asking what the 47's were rated for. We were evidently going well over the rated speed. British Rail was NOT happy and wanted us off the ECML as soon as possible. Thanks again.
@simonlilley6 жыл бұрын
The rescue loco at Berwick was a 37. That was swapped for an 86 at Newcastle as I recall. I was on the train as well.
@waldenhouse10 жыл бұрын
It always amazes me that what is now a great spectacle with hundreds of people travelling miles to see, was once an everyday occurrence which didn't attract a glance! Great footage. Thanks for sharing.
@lewisner10 жыл бұрын
I used to bash the Deltics between Newark and Cleethorpes in 80-81 and sometimes I was practically the only person on the train, let alone bashers on the train.
@tpvalley10 жыл бұрын
yes but then they used to just rev the engine to blow out the fire in the silencer drum.
@DENPTrains Жыл бұрын
Could say the same about the HSTs now, no?
@OlafProt5 ай бұрын
Oh it always attracted glances. The Deltic, like Concorde, never failed to turn heads.
@Steven_Rowe3 жыл бұрын
it is amazing the 25kv didn't flash over as flames are conductive
@D902111 жыл бұрын
Standard practise for blowing out exhaust fires in Deltics. In BR days it was quite a common occurrence and drivers would frequently blow out a fire in this manner and carry on without any ill effects.
@thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 Жыл бұрын
Look at how the fire of the second engine on the right it’s touching the Berwick upon tweed station canopy
@Stoat1311 жыл бұрын
Each engine is two-stroke with a mechanically driven supercharger. The exhaust passes through a collector drum in order to reduce the amount of oil that is likely to be ejected to the atmosphere with the exhaust. This is where the fire occurred. In service, fires were sometimes blown out by racing the engines. In this instance the carbon build up in the collector drum was too severe for this method to work. For information about Napier Deltic engines web search for "Napier Deltic".
@michellemarshall36676 жыл бұрын
They were not supercharged,they were air charged with a scavenge blower. Rick M.
@breezeblockindustrie6 жыл бұрын
made worse by probably light loading and now going on fire when it sees a bit of work to really get the heat up in the exhaust
@Stoat1311 жыл бұрын
Not much if any, the fire was contained in the exhaust system which is able to withstand high temperatures. These fires were common in normal service.
@matthewparsons52899 жыл бұрын
It was ment to catch fire at 8 15 but as usual they were/are running late..
@robpeter111 жыл бұрын
HELLFIRE !
@koitorob6 жыл бұрын
Is this where the Deltics got their extra power? AFTERBURNERS???
@raymondk22022 жыл бұрын
Lol. They have fat compressors but this was not right. Ran a bit rich. Think someone accidentally pulled the choke.🤡
@soundseeker6311 жыл бұрын
Thats a shame. But at least they got some decent running out of it before it broke down. Apparently there were a number of exhaust fires with HSTs during the introduction of the 91s, which was caused by long periods of idling. This was solved by running the diesel in tandem with the electric and thus keeping the exhausts free from unburned fuel.
@duncanbrown18646 жыл бұрын
Its no biggy. Everything comes to a halt at Berwick upon Tweed. Hopes. Dreams. Deltics...the list is practically endless.
@sgw8903 Жыл бұрын
I agree... but it all depends which direction you are traveling. ;)
@ylwpyro95498 жыл бұрын
Fortunately, this Deltic went on to have another chance. In 2011, GB Railfreight needed more locomotives to cope with the demand in rail freight, and so "Royal Scots Grey" briefly came out of retirement to serve on the main line once more, albeit on loan to GB Railfreight. She served with GB Railfreight again for a brief period in 2013 as well. "Royal Scots Grey" has had a pretty eventful life, I would say.
@dewiz95967 жыл бұрын
My first flight was a Connie, 1951
@ianhiggins872810 жыл бұрын
I have had the privilege of operating these engines in a boat. I was wondering how they overcame it, the problem of exhaust fires. We had to run the engines at 1000 rpm for a minute after idleing for 5 minutes to stop pay reduce ultimate incident of funnel fire.
@royspiers826 жыл бұрын
Ian Higgins i
@22fret10 жыл бұрын
Haha! What is even louder than a Deltic? Scottish pipes... :D
@gizmothewytchdoktor10496 жыл бұрын
i noticed that. ;-)
@animaltvi95153 жыл бұрын
Is that what that horrific noise was.
@pistonbroke04618 жыл бұрын
The result of too much oil in the collector drum at the free end of the engine! The delicious engine was designed to be given the guts! not be molly coddled!
@pistonbroke04618 жыл бұрын
#Deltic
@jimusgrimus8 жыл бұрын
On preservation work, D9015 had a hole drilled in the collector drum and any excess oil was drawn off...........I did it myself before a Butterley Running day in 1988.
@pistonbroke04618 жыл бұрын
+kelly what was the cause of the fire in the end?
@CRISIS5501667 жыл бұрын
Roger Radcliffe a DPS committee member operating the train brakes from the coaches.
@planegaper3 жыл бұрын
indeed, 2 strokes need to be punished, it why they put Detroit Diesel in long haul busses and highway Trucks, even with lower rated hp than some of the 4 stroke competition, they would hold max power as long as you want, and deliver it's best milage at those engine speeds.. Downside is , unless it's getting the berries, problems arise ,..HST solved this with the genius power pack , engine could idle at stations or low speed no problem, but run reliably at high boost pressures once asked.. very efficient and 4 stroke emissions, we under estimate how good a design the power plant of the HST is.. it was a revolution at the time, and truly brought 4 stroke traction to the fore in reliability , light weight and good economy.. Paxman made a real Gem..
@lde210012 жыл бұрын
Such a nice diesel locomotive. A beast that likes to eat miles :X!
@24nov6711 жыл бұрын
there was a deltic in glasgow's old eastfield traction depot last friday 12-7-2013, it's the first time i've seen one in the flesh and it's a magnificet beast to behold.
@jocratt36248 жыл бұрын
At 10:04 RIP overhead wire that got fried
@Viper-CT3 жыл бұрын
1:06 that horn sounds like it means business compared to Other more standard locomotives of its time.
@khadijagwen8 жыл бұрын
It's the bane of diesel engines not run at full load. They get "wet stacked" and have to be run hard to burn it all out.
@buggs99507 жыл бұрын
And now, over half a century later, an everyday diesel car has a similar problem with DPFs. Progress eh?
@MrBugsier56 жыл бұрын
just crappy designed engines it is....
@THEATREofPAIN27011 жыл бұрын
That was awesome. Liked it.
@yankinga9 жыл бұрын
Who's got the marshmallows?
@bennickss Жыл бұрын
Hellfire in a literal sense
@Masire00096 жыл бұрын
This is like a Deltic Movie being up there surveying the area lol
@CRISIS5501667 жыл бұрын
Caused by Roger Radcliffe who now trades as Alycidon Engineering, a then DPS committee member tampering with the brakes via a MK1 coach butterfly valve. The DPS turned a blind eye to this as it was a DNLL loco and the DPS hated them for getting a Deltic on the mainline before they did. When Radcliffe got drunk and repeated the stunt, on a DPS trip to Scarborough and ending up in the Sun newspaper, the DPS booted him off the committee....
@pajotero42193 жыл бұрын
I used to go Kings X to Peterborough one night a week after work just for the ride behind one of these
@irelandbloke10 жыл бұрын
Great video !
@24nov6711 жыл бұрын
thanks for the reply, i tried to tape it on my smartphone but i had only just got it and wasn't sure how it worked lol.
@jaggass2 жыл бұрын
It takes alot to starter a Deltic engine. Chris Barrie once had to do alot of pumping and winding.
@berwickspotter11 жыл бұрын
Can remember it very well .
@AllianceB9511 жыл бұрын
Aah i understand now Thanks for explaining it :) Cheers
@laviniaharper60218 жыл бұрын
love this train video
@jacobjohnston12186 жыл бұрын
pop goes the diesel
@frankroberts93207 жыл бұрын
What was causing the fireworks in the catenary at 2:27, 2:55 and 3:03? Also, how is it possible that the 25 kv overhead line did not arc through the flame to the engine? Fire, being mainly composed of ionized gases, is an excellent electrical conductor. Did the recloser open the line after one or two nasty arcs that were missed by the camera operator?
@oneconfusedenglishman73447 жыл бұрын
I think all of those time stamps you put was someone with a flash camera?
@frankroberts93207 жыл бұрын
I believe you are correct sir.
@sealbeachfelipe7 жыл бұрын
Frank Roberts k
@planegaper3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure those exhaust stacks were well grounded to the rails or some sort of heat exchanger or sink anywhere they ran under electrified trackage.. it's basically a big generator , and there must have been big spikes going to the traction motors from time to time.. best guess he could handle 25k for a couple of seconds if she got zapped..
@danilopeterson34678 жыл бұрын
As I can see this is a special train with old Deltics, I must say that I am happy to see the much needed electrification for regular everyday usage.!
@Mog43510 жыл бұрын
like bloody love em !!!
@yennerz00bradderz2 жыл бұрын
Surprised it didn’t melt the OHLE
@Stoat1310 жыл бұрын
"Disco Inferno" :-)
@bjoe3853 жыл бұрын
“Duh, it’s supposed to be on fire”
@EraCraba10 жыл бұрын
We´d like listen to the noise and extreme profanityes!
@jocratt36247 жыл бұрын
when you put the train on the highest notch of power
@Raul1971xxx3 жыл бұрын
There is some fuel leak somewhere..
@billfusionenterprise6 жыл бұрын
thing the bagpipe music drove it nuts?
@SvenTviking9 жыл бұрын
Interestin that the class 86 electric loco in the film is not that much younger than the class55, but still in service.
@ploopy52359 жыл бұрын
except the 86's are what 40 now
@jamescrow668710 жыл бұрын
Burn Baby Burn, sorry for the immaturity that used to be a common sight when these were running everyday
@harrymurray25154 жыл бұрын
They said it's a £50 fine for smoking tobacco on a railway. But what's the fine for chewing tobacco ?
@yankinga9 жыл бұрын
'Ere, now, what's all this, then?
@yankinga9 жыл бұрын
The resale value of that catenary is going to be nil.
@davidjb6510 жыл бұрын
And you can be fined £50 for smoking on any railway platform?
@MasterMoyle6 жыл бұрын
Or more if it's weed your caught smoking.
@jessicaneitzel47807 жыл бұрын
UH, YOUR LOCO IS ON FIRE
@FinnDavid29798 ай бұрын
hi everyone where is the class 37 going with the class 55 please tell me!!!!!
@bingola458 жыл бұрын
That's a fire in the exhaust drum; not exactly an unknown Deltic phenomenon. The crew seemingly didn't know how to deal with it. Are there no time-served Deltic men left?
@AdrianWilsonBridders123411 жыл бұрын
Common fault with the Napier Deltic, oil in the exhaust silencer caused many fires
@trainsmad330711 жыл бұрын
cool vid.
@martinbrzeczek1727 жыл бұрын
When is a Deltic not a Deltic ? When it's running on one engine !!
@chrisst89224 жыл бұрын
Then it's a baby Deltic.
@buggs99507 жыл бұрын
I love the Deltic sound as much as I hate the bagpipe sound. Tuneless, ear-piercing windybags..
@ironpirites6 жыл бұрын
Troll here: If this had happened on an airplane, one thing is for damn sure. People wouldn't have been standing around gawking at it.
@alisonlee33147 жыл бұрын
Poor old girl......
@cycledayz11 жыл бұрын
dont think that was suppose to set on fire at 9.00
@CRISIS5501667 жыл бұрын
Step forward, Mr Rodger Radcliffe DPS
@williamradford96317 жыл бұрын
Exhaust fire. One Class 55 start its engines or blow up. should be with drawn and on static display.
@mattseymour86375 жыл бұрын
Great video of the Deltic. How did they put it out ?
@DOCTORDROTT6 жыл бұрын
Keep it running and blast it out
@D902111 жыл бұрын
That would be this same locomotive, currently in BR blue livery as 55022 - it's been hired in by GBRf and is being used to transfer class 334 units from Yoker to Kilmarnock, where they are being refurbished. It usually takes one set down to Kilmarnock and brings another one back.
@littlepouser28 жыл бұрын
that loco shouyld of bee shut down right away tha put people in danger i thaught all diesel locos whe fitted with fire fighting units onboard
@andywill95485 жыл бұрын
Fucking Hell, learn to speak English or at least grammar and spell check before commenting
@AllianceB9511 жыл бұрын
That must have been a blown turbo right therewith unburned Oil out of the turbo. Very nice tho! What i dont understand is why do they keep on thrashing it instead of shutting it down ? Very nice vid!
@73Datsun180B6 жыл бұрын
no turbo, supercharged 2 stroke, oil build up in exhaust like most 2 strokes!
@charlotteclarke46659 жыл бұрын
I guess that's the last we saw of D9000
@helenlunn38297 жыл бұрын
Charlotte Clarke Nope, It's still around and sometimes was on hire to GBRF a few years ago, but it's at the NYMR now.
@charlotteclarke46657 жыл бұрын
Alastair Lunn I would've thought they had to scrap it after an incident like this.
@BadgerBadgerBadger285 жыл бұрын
Not a accident just oil in exhaust It builds up then burns you’ve got to take it out on main line and really load that engine up the get it burned off problem solved
@ALANSWEETIES998 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable look like is overheat of this train cause catch fire wasn't???!
@hunterneitzel30123 жыл бұрын
8:51 it's on fire
@Moe-hz9og3 жыл бұрын
I like how people just walk around while a forty year old oil powered gas locomotive is intensely on fire and it is spreading, the people just seem like it’s normal to see a wildfire inside a fucking train 😂
@cjtait44159 жыл бұрын
cool , id like to be on one of those 55's of couse if it wasn't on fire
@jekanyika10 жыл бұрын
Its all fun and games until somebody loses a head.
@DaveInBridport11 жыл бұрын
Would the fire have caused any damage to the loco?
@marioburgess44006 жыл бұрын
Its is hull train station
@pennyjunction90664 жыл бұрын
Was this a normal service or a special one
@istranes11 жыл бұрын
Was this what we Yanks call a railfan trip or was it a revenue run?
@richardharrold97363 жыл бұрын
The former. Deltics were withdrawn from revenue-earning service by BR in the early 1980s.
@AlexA-ip9tf11 жыл бұрын
In Britain, the most One dead locomotives.
@tallersimon7 жыл бұрын
there must be a thing between napier and fires,an old fella once told me it was common when starting napier sabre fighter engines in ww2
@geoffreyblack59825 жыл бұрын
Is this engine the same as a spitfire? They both sound awesome in both form's of transport.
@theodor124 жыл бұрын
No, that had a Rolls Royce Merlin V12 engine, this has a two stroke, opposed piston diesel engine.
@brianwhittington50862 жыл бұрын
The Napier Deltic engine was originally designed for fast marine use, and was fitted in Royal Navy patrol boats. Each engine has 18 pistons, arranged in an equilateral triangle shape block. It is a two stroke engine, and has two opposing pistons in each cylinder, each piston connected to one of the 3 crankshafts, one on each corner that feed their power to the engines main output drive. In the Class 55 Deltic, each engine can produce over 1625HP. Each Deltic locomotive has two of these engines fitted. It can run on one engine power, or two. The engines can work together, or independently, and both will come fully on song together when the driver needs the full combined constant power of 3300HP.
@matthew0605 Жыл бұрын
Just sheer diesel power !!. Thank you Brian for such a in-depth explanation, I thought I knew much about the Deltic Diesel prime mover but I've learnt more from your explanation.
@BadgerBadgerBadger285 жыл бұрын
Just take it and rev the knackers out of it at speed problem solved
@evitomocol12 жыл бұрын
not good what time did you get back to start point
@Nine-Signs5 жыл бұрын
On fire & late. For the UK I'd say that's working perfectly. Looks like a blown turbo.
@johntrevena42805 жыл бұрын
deltics werent turbo,d but blowing on them helps coz its 2stroke diesel. NAPIER....
@nitemover19 жыл бұрын
I have seen a lot of deltic video's on youtube and they alway's are just running on one engine are they scared of burning more fuel or something.
@Stoat139 жыл бұрын
stuart fleming From what I understand about the Deltic control system, the second engine doesn't provide any power until the loco is moving above a certain speed, which with UK preserved railway line speeds you're just wasting engine hours. I'm sure someone more knowledgeable of the Deltic control system could explain better, if they want to.
@GarethT9028 жыл бұрын
+Stoat13 Engine no 2 kicks in at 20mph it has to be used in the winter months for the electric train heating to work.
@DocterGeko7 жыл бұрын
ah the Detlic's, the class 28's may have suffered with teething troubles, but they didn't catch fire every other day
@herrbohnen10 жыл бұрын
oil in the exhaust?
@photography946 жыл бұрын
Not good how the hell did that happen lol
@gauravgaurav73296 жыл бұрын
GAURAV
@nathan836998 жыл бұрын
the problem was she had been running all morning then the driver was giving her the guns which then caused her to overheat
@bhumikagami47395 жыл бұрын
Hii
@khadijagwen8 жыл бұрын
Prolly should have just run it and let it burn its self out.
@TransportCambs7 жыл бұрын
Did it actually catch fire?
@RobertdMacGregor7 жыл бұрын
what do you think?
@bobsmart21107 жыл бұрын
Staltwitch junction well that's why the Navy took them out of minesweepers ?don't forget a minesweeper is a wooden ship and they had a few funnel fires
@richardharrold97363 жыл бұрын
@@bobsmart2110 the Deltic minesweepers were/are fibreglass.
@johnfellows28675 жыл бұрын
Never understood the appeal of Deltics, equipped with an overly complex and somewhat fragile engine. Now, an A 4, and we are really talking !!
@richardharris82297 жыл бұрын
I can't believe how long they let you continue to video that 😳😳 It was a bloody fire!!! Not just one simple backfire of the engine. Why wasn't the station evacuated & the engine shut down?? Love the vid though, well done.