50007 start up Derby 20 3 18 shut down 3 nights

50007 slowly comes to life at Derby on 20th March 2018 after being shut down for 3 nights

[@JFulls94]

who new that watching old diesels starting could be so satisfying to watch :P

[@arcayman]

A few cans of "Start Ya Bastard" would have helped here.

[@rogerpearson9081]

Surprised there was not a bit of help. I have seen a petrol soaked rag used too. I think a bit of something would reduce the litres of unburnt fuel breathed out the exhaust. Maybe even some preheating.

[@thomaswilkinson3241]

Help me out there, what is that? Just a good rage quit tantrum or something like an additive to put into the engine? I know nothing about this stuff. Obvious, isn't it?

[@PatricioGarcia1973]

Thomas Wilkinson it’s ether in a can, used to start up cold Diesel engines

[@thomaswilkinson3241]

Patricio Garcia and it is really called "Start Ya Bastard?" That tickles my funny bone. 😂Thank you for telling me.

[@tommystearns3073]

@@thomaswilkinson3241 yes it is, it's sold in canada under that name

[@paulanderson79]

16 cylinder engines don't sound too clever when 14 aren't firing.

[@radioel4143]

Yeah we know

[@CB-fv4vv]

Imagine in a depot...

[@nomon95]

Cesar B all die,the clag is toxic because is fuel vaporizated,not burn,Clag is white colour. Or in a subway station try to start....impossible!

[@paulanderson79]

@@nomon95 These things aren't used in urban subway environments. These rail systems are exclusively electrically operated. BR Class 50 as seen here does not take this long to start when it's working properly. This is a badly preserved locomotive.

[@g8ymw]

@@paulanderson79 WRONG This was during "The Beast from the East" Also, this loco is using a 1962 (DP2) engine. Mechanical injector system and no cold start aids.

[@bennickss]

This is a perfect representation of me trying to get up on a Monday morning

[@ttvvideos2050]

ha lol same

[@arthurhucksake2665]

I feel this statement on a spiritual level.

[@brothermunkdrums]

lol, its also a perfect representation of me hours after eating hot curry

[@warringtonminge4167]

What makes Monday so special? I only start up feeling like this if there's a "d" and a "y" in the day

[@bennickss]

@@smf333Fortunately I've another 35 years until then so I have no need to worry

[@ColAngus]

The only vehicle that can be spotted from space.

[@JR-nj8le]

and it's effects felt all around the world (global warming)

[@cerb101]

This thing wont make any difference just go to the us or china.

[@SvenTviking]

J R When you consider that when this pulls a passenger train, it takes 500 cars off the road.

[@malcolmburrows4005]

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[@martinmanifold2241]

And they banned drivers from smoking in the cab for health reasons

[@nomon95]

imagine start this loco in a close station as subway station!!!!

[@sheffieldterra]

@@nomon95 subway are you a yank?

[@nomon95]

No ,Argentine. this is a suposition,this loco never can start in a sub station with this clag.

[@goose300183]

@@nomon95 hahaha the tunnels and stations would be full of unburnt diesel for about a mile either side of the loco

[@nomon95]

Yeap,agree!!

[@PabloGarcia-hc8xq]

The stop/start optional extra was seldom requested on this particular model.

[@g8ymw]

Didn't have it in 1967

[@737Adventures]

@@g8ymw joke went over your head mate

[@nchcroy3877]

Looks like they've chosen the new pope....😁

[@TirthBArya]

😊👌

[@jimdevlin2138]

Yes and his name is Del

[@sidewindersid4180]

Brilliant 😅😅😅

[@batman51]

And changed their minds several times

[@PA-ex9qb]

Brilliant👌

[@electrofiction.]

Euro 6? Hold my beer...

[@cyclist3969]

The class 50 has a reputation for sustained heavy smoking exhausts on start up, a preserved railway had a 50 with a shed in a town centre, the railway agreed not to start up the 50 on shed due to the complaints from the public, it would be hauled somewhere else on the line for the startup. Used to live at Hayes on the GW mainline, the 50s would leave Paddington and be reaching line speed of (I think 100 mph) through Hayes station, at 100 mph the50 would fly through the station the EE engine making a memorable deep bass booming sound, delightful!

[@johngoodale4961]

Summed up perfectly!

[@exb.r.buckeyeman845]

I had to use this Engine in 1981 on late turn at Penzance for Shunting, when the pilot 08644 was in for maintenance, didn't smoke much then.

[@johnkeepin7527]

Probably maintained at Plymouth Laira in those days.

[@TheClockwise770]

Nearby Derby resident - Bugger , I knew I shouldn't have put my clean washing out this morning lol

[@lesreed7943]

And most people in the 1800s & 1900s had the same problem with steam!

[@mattseymour8637]

@@lesreed7943 yeah haha apart from coal smoke doesn't smell much as an odour

[@andy199121]

this thing makes a steam engine look green!

[@MrMusic1950]

Beautiful old diesels. Lots of horse power when pushed.

[@AaronOxfordExmouth1989]

Absolutely beautiful music. Love the way each cylinder pops as it comes to life.

[@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO]

“Absolutely beautiful music”?, farts sound infinitely more beautiful than this ugly polluting crude-noise maker. Even London Underground trains from the 1920’s looked and sounded attractive than this junk.

[@grange247]

Who many cylinder's does it have?

[@CS80undermybed]

I like the way the driver gets out and buggers off while waiting for it to start! 😂

[@mro4440]

Not a mosquito to be found.

[@alwayzrocking]

Superb comment

[@elonmust7470]

Because bugs love winter..

[@chloeew4627]

No Greta’s either 😂

[@lexworx7267]

Love the way the driver got out at the start like "NOTHING TO DO WITH ME" haha

[@steviesteve750]

Legend has it that even to this day, it's still waiting for the last 6 cylinders to awaken.

[@nickp4089]

3:40. The guy “ I’m just going to walk out of this before it blows up” lol

[@elonmust7470]

Moron

[@richardhedderly]

Close your eyes and it sounds like a Depeche Mode backing track.

[@markhill3695]

Beautiful sounds :-)

[@faisalsheikh2424]

A good DJ can make awesome remix with this startup...

[@magicdave93]

Great video of a great locomotive, thanks for sharing 👍🙂😷

[@Mullay2]

That white smoke is unburned diesel fuel. The starter is cycling the engine to warm the combustion chambers. Only when you hear the cylinders popping and the smoke changing colors are the cylinders coming on line. They are rarely if ever shut down as long as this old girl was.

[@christopher61]

3 days?

[@glennfryer1539]

Mullay2 You wouldn’t get a 3516 B running like that ...

[@pauloconnor2980]

I remember seeing these Hoovers thundering through Surbiton at 75 MPH!!!! I can still hear the sound as they hit that bridge just south of the station!!

[@tomf4547]

As a kid I used to watch em come into King's Cross and Euston. THUNDEROUS noise 😅

[@erwin4501]

“I love the smell of diesel first thing in the morning “ !!!

[@TheAlien1974]

just like my golf tdi pd in the morning

[@khumbulaningwenya2251]

fred bloggs same here with my Polo😂👏🏾

[@jamie-hb8gy]

150bhp ARL by any chance lol

[@goose300183]

Those 1.9 PD engines are really nice. Yeah they are loud, but reliable as heck.

[@detenator890]

I

[@goose300183]

Does anyone have any problems with their PD engine messing up the oil really quickly? I think it's because oil pressure is used to activate the injectors, and the oil pressure for that is astronomical!

[@jonesey65244]

If I close my eyes and just listen, I can see an old John Deere A pulling the hay rack out to the field.. What awesome locos these must have been. Thanks for the upload.

[@jesseamaya4413]

Damm you're right! It DOES sound like a Johnny popper.

[@andypreston1524]

Lovely job John! Thanks for that!

[@andypreston1524]

In fact, here's a few more 👍👍👍👍👍👍on top of the first one!

[@UKRailsandMore]

Great bit of classic br footage sir, thanks for sharing, all the best, Paul

[@MultiJoe11111]

@7:31 the giant is finally awake and starts taking deep breaths

[@benconway9010]

I remember when this loco was a nice interesting green with a black and gold line down the center and lovely black 'n' brass number plates and name plate...."SIR EDWARD ELGAR"

[@London1064]

And the Diesel Locomotive was supposed to replace the polluting steam engine!

[@dajimejebote]

Don't worry, it's just liters of oil burning up. It moisturizes your respiratory system.

[@ramrunner3199]

More like line oil companies pockets with money. U can burn anything to make steam

[@davidfuller581]

Clearly you've never seen a steam locomotive working hard. Enormous black clouds of soot and bits of unburned coal.

[@jijzer3284]

If all those envirment and green people would stop breating it would reduce 50% C02 and the world would be a much better place

[@London1064]

David Fuller it was a tounge in cheek remark. Get a sense of humour.

[@snowflakemelter1172]

I used to rebuild marine Diesels and I laterally have no idea how or why any Diesel would struggle that much to start, and I've started them with blow lamps !

[@renegadeoflife87]

This is typical for an English Electric on a cold morning. Only barely enough compression to fire at all, no glowplugs of any kind. She cranks until a few cylinders start to hit, and then those cylinders keep the engine turning as it gradually warms up and comes alive. Eventually the driver revvs it slightly to get the last few cylinders firing and the engine ready to pull.

[@maxmacpherson1957]

Absolutely wonderful.

[@EntertainmentWorldz]

Fantastic video dear Friend love it. God bless you. Happy Day

[@duxfortis704]

1:50 get the jump leads

[@itechiwizard83]

What's the starting mechanism? . Is it using a starter motor or a small steam engine to start the diesel engine?

[@CalebsRailFilms]

Great video John! I think I am your 600th subscriber lol. Congrats on the milestone! All the best. Cheers Caleb

[@johngoodale4961]

Thanks Caleb!

[@exb.r.buckeyeman845]

This Loco is in need of repair, head gaskets injectors etc, i worked with these engines for 10 years as a Shunter at Penzance, and the class 50 Locos would cover 1000 miles in 24 hours every day. Penzance to Paddington, Padd to Birmingham, then to Oxford, then Swansea, back to Padd, then Penzance. This one isn't the norm.

[@robinforrest7680]

Believe me, cold start up of an SNCF CC72000 is worse. I lived in a railwayman's hostel overlooking the stabling point at Nancy a few years ago. At 3am one winter morning I was woken up not by the noise but by the stink of diesel fumes even though the window was closed! A beast of a machine the CC72000, the old hoover is most civilised in comparison, lots of happy memories of watching them on the GWML in Cornwall in the 80s...

[@johngoodale4961]

Would love to see footage of one of those!

[@robinforrest7680]

@@johngoodale4961 I found this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH7GoWt-edNnbac I just love the SNCF Voyages inscription on the side at 4.53. Only knobs from marketing who've never seen one in the flesh could be responsable for that...

[@matthew0605]

As a kid on holiday in France we called these Diesels "blue diesels"due to sncfs colour scheme. They were indeed smokers .

[@stewartatkinson4179]

Fantastic video!

[@robmoss3501]

Loved the way he got out and let the loco get on with it.

[@truckerkevthepaidtourist]

that's kind of the way to do it. you see that with my old Chevy in the dead of winter get it going after it did a little starting die a few times crank over crank over once and it was going to stay running and warm up walk back inside have a couple coffee

[@paulgregroy1986]

Fantastic diesel engine! So Clean Running! Well! It's white smoke! Fantastic pulling machine sure if it's looked after it would never ever stop running

[@Boyd751965]

Reminds me of my Scania V8 143-420 back in the day. It stood like this on a cold winter day for a long time. So i drew the handthrottle back(yes they had one back in the days) and went to shower before I'd take off. Came out, and the poor cold 14,3 liter Scania engine was revving at 2000 rpm. That really hurt me. But no, the engine took no damage. Pew

[@mortenfrosthansen84]

And the environment thanks you that...

[@mava5634]

the driver left the junk and went look for a coffe

[@lightning366]

Like a boss

[@tjlovesrachel]

Well it’s gunna be about an hour before it gets up to any reasonable temp

[@Biggles2498]

JUNK ? How dare you !

[@formidable38]

Looks like the despatch staff havn't seen a 50 start from cold before!

[@johngoodale4961]

Yes that's exactly what happened they came flapping with their walkie-talkies thinking it was on fire! The driver was stood cool as a cucumber next to me watching them before they enquired if it had a driver with it!

[@nigelterry9299]

They may never have even seen a loco fire up before. Clearly an interest in railways bars someone from a railway career these days.....

[@matternoddy]

Reminds me of starting 16 cylinder Paxman diesel generators in the RN in the 1960’s

[@geoffmatthews2353]

To be fair, it’s just like me starting my Chieftain tank in 1978

[@formidable38]

What an absolute beast!

[@MrCsfootage]

Love the EMT goons in a flap over a bit of clag John ! Good job I wasnt there with my jump leads 'ala 20142 and 37240' if you remember all those years ago John !!!

[@johngoodale4961]

Ha Ha yes they were great days mate!

[@Synthematix]

BIT of clag?

[@ThePlayerToBeNamedLater]

I grew up around BR and rode the rails all my childhood and adolescence, I enjoy trains but I don't have a clear understanding why the old English Electric, BREL and Sulzer locos are so hard to start even after sitting just a couple of days. Can anyone share why that is?

[@bobf3598]

Ands they say smoking is bad for your health!

[@lesreed7943]

@TOMEK GREENTEA And that silly comment has WHAT, to do with the video? Fool...

[@ademonnery3251]

Impressive flame out. You can see why they’ve electrified a lot of the network. Even so you can’t beat a good old hoover

[@Jeovanivm]

How much oil just to start it?

[@richardhedderly]

That fine line between starting up and appearing to be on fire....

[@lynardskynard2895]

My man, I am going to start my loco, wait for me. *9 minutes*

[@triv7252]

ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the 2019 Volkswagen 2 litre TDI

[@aaronkryder6186]

Bosch

[@wondermenel2811]

that is a class 50 not a VW

[@TheAmazingAdventuresOfMiles]

How does the starter battery keep that up?

[@alansmith1770]

Thank you I so love the class 50

[@Sergey322]

Hello, is it OK to feature your clip in a my chanel for educational purposes (so-called temporary copyright.)? You can stop me from using your content at any time and it will be deleted immediately. It will be credited in the description & comments section with your name. Thanks, MM

[@johngoodale4961]

Thanks for asking, yes no problem, please credit me

[@johndean4998]

8 mins 33 secs of coughing and spluttering. This makes the case for electrifying the MML better than anything!

[@serioustrouble63]

...and even then it runs like shit

[@alanpartridge2140]

watch a 125 start up

[@charlienorton2337]

John Dean stfu

[@benconway9010]

No it doesn't

[@g8ymw]

Not if Failing Grayling has his way

[@loveeuropehatetheeu5271]

lovely carbon to help the plants grow, reminds my of my Royal Mail Sherpa van in the eighties.

[@Howdy606]

Seems similar engine to the 37's engine start. Why do Deltics seem to start so much quicker with much less noise?

[@Kevansjones]

Lost my interest in modern rail once the mainstay 50s 33s 56s etc in the 90s. Nice to see them back on the mainline. Are these used regularly?

[@johngoodale4961]

GBRF have just done a tie up with the 50 fund & 50007 & 50049 are due to emerge from Eastleigh works in full GBRF cols, they are used on railtours & odds & sods stuff really. They are doing a railtour from London - Penzance & back this coming Saturday

[@fredtedstedman]

3:31 " I'M GOING 'OME !!!!" or " I TOLD YOU NOT TO SWITCH IT OFF !"

[@miscbits6399]

I always wondered if adding a Webasto would help these at startup

[@whendeathdeclareswar7458]

I take it, 3 days is a long time for a train to be in shutdown?

[@antonydicesare4632]

Making music, beautiful

[@michaelmartin4144]

Doubt it will make nr 1 😂

[@antonydicesare4632]

@@michaelmartin4144 with some of this modern music, im not so sure lol

[@michaelmartin4144]

@@antonydicesare4632 Bloody right there mate.

[@ic08jy700]

It might appear leaving these things ticking all night to be an environmental no no, until you see a cold start-up like this. Damn it and I thought our buses were awkward.

[@user-ru6dz1po5t]

Tons of different sounds. I couldn't still understand why starting up took so much time? Is there something broken in that vehicle?

[@c1tlr340]

How long is the starter engaged during the start-up process?

[@johngoodale4961]

You can see the driver take his thumb off the start button at 1 minute 52 seconds into the video & the revs dip slightly as he does

[@SuburbAllied]

As of april 9th 2019 it is still slowly coming to life...

[@Johnny-iv5ln]

Alive..she s alivee... Love it.Thank you.

[@lesreed7943]

Good old Dr Frankenstein!

[@ultimatejay]

whats all the white smoke? Fuel vapor? And at what time did the engine actually start?

[@johngoodale4961]

If you look the driver takes his finger off the start button at 1 minute 50 on the video & the revs drop slightly before slightly recovering where it's just about self sustaining. Yes unburnt diesel vapour most of it

[@Play_fare]

This is why diesels in regular service don’t get shutdown. Better to keep them on idle than go through this routine (but it is fun to watch!).

[@ollie7373]

loving the bardic on the buffer as a light haha

[@mohankrishna1443]

Now I came to know why locomotives never shut off

[@RODALCO2007]

Awesome slow start, interesting that diesel railway loco's never had glowplugs installed. Good batteries. 48 or 72 Volts system ?

[@Dazzc2011]

There is actually a small power station stored in the rear. Batteries would be futile

[@MrCsfootage]

@ RODALCO2007 48 cells 2.2v each giving 105.6v. Auxiliary gen charges and runs the auxiliaries at 110v once up and running. Keep zapping those pesky wasps Sir !!!

[@RODALCO2007]

@@MrCsfootage Thank you for your reply. I will keep an eye out for those pesky wasps.

[@grooeygroo]

That took forever! At what point in the video could you put traction load on? Also, how does the engine "know" when it's running and to stop cranking?

[@johngoodale4961]

The driver takes his finger off the button around 1 min 50 if you look at him. So after that it slowly picks up by itself until most of its 16 cylinders are firing! As for taking power I'd have thought it'd need to warm up for a while!

[@neworder18]

At what point did the starter finally disengage? That was a slow crank at the start

[@VTSPQR]

It's great to see a environmentally friendly company at work! lol....btw, I love trains.

[@class87srule]

Thought they might be nipping to ATS for a new battery at one point. How the hell do the batteries manage to sustain that turnover cycle? Don't think this one's "carbon neutral" btw! lol!

[@andrewhill8213]

The started motor on this is not all that much bigger than a heavy truck battery and once one cylinder kicks in the starter is just cycling the engine as others kick in.

[@renegadeoflife87]

Once a couple of cylinders fire, it makes enough power to keep the engine turning without the starter. At the 4 minute mark the driver exits the engine and it stays turning, since enough cylinders were firing to keep it going as it warmed up.

[@deltasterone]

impressive. thx for sharing.

[@Mietas2]

So I'm just thinking: what is spinning that engine that long? Is it some pressure system? Or big-ass starter motor?

[@johngoodale4961]

The driver takes his finger off the start button at 1 minute 50 secs in the video where the engine is just about self sustaining on about half of its 16 cylinders, most of the other cylinders then start to fire as the engine picks up speed on its own slowly! From pressing the start button up until the driver releases it at 1 minute 50 the loco's generator is motoring the engine over from the locos batteries. Hope that helps!

[@Mietas2]

@@johngoodale4961 Yes, that does help! :) Thank you sir

[@harlingpark723]

Very nice, makes my Detroit seem tame.:)

[@ianhudson9398]

It was definatly "Windows shut" road learning in the back of that I can tell you.....🤣🤣

[@wshtb]

At which point is it considered "started"? I can't imagine any battery can last this long cranking that motor.

[@16jan1986]

Dsb mz from 1980 standing 11 years semi flat battery start up 40 second. This thing shut down for the weekend and 9 minutes...... long live GM EMD

[@mickd6942]

Darby express head line "strange mist hangs over darby for several days cause a mystery'

[@johncox2284]

Wow! That engine detonates for a long time before it comes up to speed. Sounds like a M&S.

[@robertbrugh8426]

must be a cold day. those big motors take a long time to heat the heads up.

[@still_guns]

Love Class 50's, thanks to MSTS

[@cedricm7350]

Similar to my three cilinder 1.2 TDI every morning … on a good day!

[@Starshine17173]

This is so satisfying 😊

[@ChrisMower]

Daft question but I'm not a train afficianado so forgive me. What is the white smoke? Is that unburned diesel? It looks rather like steam. If it is unburned fuel wouldn't everything end up coated in diesel?

[@johngoodale4961]

Yes unburnt diesel

[@mickboakes7023]

No wonder the Arctic ice is melting. Beautiful noise.

[@nigelterry9299]

Love EE cold starts!!!

[@johngoodale4961]

Me too!

[@nigelterry9299]

And who says diesels don't backfire? One cylinder at a time......

[@jennytalia226]

Altogether now !!........ Bang Bang Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.........

[@buffplums]

...gang bang titty clitty gang bang ....

[@hntrains2]

Whoa! What's it used for?

Great cold start !