Dalek Bumps Question Time: Series 2, Episode 2

In the second episode of the second season of Dalek Bumps Question Time, we cover a variety of topics posted to the Dalek Bumps Discord by my viewers, pitting the Daleks against Star Wars, Halo and Star Trek, discussing the Daleks' Final End, the Thals, and Fan-made Dalek animations
All footage is the property of the BBC. Music by Marty O'Donnell and Marc Baril

[@FactionParadox2090]

I agree with your points, although the Empire is formidable in it's own universe, on a separate scale the Doctor Who universe is considerably more advanced technologically, additionally the Daleks would be more inventive in their strategy, especially if they weaponized time travel against the Empire, which would have no defense against historical incursions and would only know they occurred when the timeline changed. As for the Borg, I do consider them the higher threat than the Empire simply due to absurd numbers and their adaptive shielding, although their lack of imagination and reliance of assimilation to gather new intelligence is what lead to Species 8472 besting them during their brief war. I also believe Daleks would be similarly resistant to assimilation, Dalek antibodies might be capable of killing any Borg nanoprobes that enter them and I don't think even a small army of Borg Drones could overpower a Dalek. The Daleks of the Time War are powerful enough to have killed the Time Lords, a temporally-active species with considerable scientific advancement and devastating superweapons of their own. Comparing them to The Empire/Borg/Flood isn't a fair comparison.

[@MrGreaves]

I’m glad you want to cover Dalek Empire. I just finished listening to it all and there’s a surprising lack of coverage of it on KZbin. I myself am working on a video covering it all, but I’d rather watch something that’s not just half an hour of myself droning on.

[@stuff31]

Hellooo! Very interesting questions here.

[@Jedi_Spartan_38]

1:11 I think that there are multiple factions/species in Doctor Who that could do well against the Flood. Presumably any Flood infected Dalek would either self destruct or there'd be countermeasures to keep it from being able to control the casing (thus leaving Dalek Combat Forms extremely vulnerable to uninfected Daleks), the Series 2 Cybermen would be 100% immune to physical infection and - unless consuming Flood Biomass infects them - then the Vashta Nerada would be incredibly overpowered against the Flood.

[@shadepizza4217]

Cybermen still have a central nervous system which is what the flood infect

[@Jedi_Spartan_38]

@@shadepizza4217 I'm pretty sure that the versions from Rise of the Cybermen/Age of Steel are literally just robot suits that use human brains as CPUs (although I have just remembered that Cybermen that got converted during Doomsday went through a process closer to how the Classic Who Cybermen worked).

[@ItsButterBean1020]

@@shadepizza4217even if the CybusMen have very little biomass; they’d likely fall victim to the Logic Plague

[@zarrg5611]

TBH I do feel that multiple factions from Star Trek could hold their own against the Daleks. With the Borg for example would be able to quickly adapt to the Daleks dependency on energy and biological weapons, and the daleks would be too arrogant to admit that the borg have become invincible to a large section of their arsenal. The one thing that the borg might struggle with is an initial defeat upon attempting to assimilate Daleks and their nanobots failing to find a way into the dalek casings, but even this may be solved in time. Look at the humans in the Doctor who universe, hardly a co-ordinated and technologically advanced bunch, but they still are able to push the dalkes back after much bloodshed, how would the daleks contend with a faction that posed a great threat to a far more advanced version of humanity?

[@Toramai-pi8wx]

For the first question, I agree with you totally about the Daleks kicking the empire’s butt. I mean as a Star Wars fan I have to admit neither in legends or in Canon would they be able to stand up to the Daleks. Even if all the factions came together. As Force sensitive as you said could stand a chance but let’s be fair they’re just too few of them in the Daleks have too many in their numbers and they would whittle them down to nothing. I don’t know much about Halo so I’ll take your word for it. As for Star Trek, yeah I could see if everybody banded together that it would work, but it would be a pyrrhic victory. The only sci-fi action I could legitimately see standing up to the would be the Warhammer 40 K factions. Although to them, the Daleks would just be a regular Tuesday.

[@Xenon7567]

I would love to see Vader go up against an onslaught of Daleks, could a lightsaber deflect a Dalek’s beam? And how easy would it be to manipulate their casing with the force? Heck could Vader choke the mutant inside the casing via the force? So many questions

[@Professor_Toothpaste]

I agree a lot with your own Dalek design, but i dont really like how big and bulky the base is, so i think i would make it small like the 60s Daleks.

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

I feel like the Trade Federation would do the best against the Daleks. No they wouldn't be able to make a dent in Dalek ranks, but they can replace battle droids like it's nothing, so I doubt they'd ever run out of troops unless the supply lines were cut off. To get a race powerful enough to fight Daleks, you'll probably need to choose factions from Warhammer 40,000.

[@ScribblestoScreen]

How would you make Destiny of the Daleks any better?

[@blecis74]

Seeing as though you have your thoughts on the Daleks vs Star Wars, Star Trek and Halo then Q. Daleks vs Warhammer 40k who wins? I’m putting my money on the Daleks as they are very powerful. I will say I don’t know a lot about Warhammer 40k so I’m definitely missing something about them.

[@andrewbradnum9099]

I think it will be 40k the, although I can see a universe where the only two left are the daleks the the orks

[@PerovNigma]

If you wanted to introduce the Daleks to someone for the first time, which story (other than 2005's _Dalek,_ let's say, as that's the obvious answer) do you think would be best?

[@Jedi_Spartan_38]

What Dalek fan designs (either recoloured casings or fully new variants) would you want to see appear in an official capacity?

[@IllusivePrime]

If you was to write a story for a Dalek episode, what would you want the story to be about?

[@JakeandElwood1980]

Can you get question 3 about daleks in thunderbirds

[@user-fl9te5ur2n]

Like to see daleks vs Jedi and sith

[@dalekhybrid845]

Thanks for answering my question.

[@grahamturner1290]

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[@MrHighlifewest]

Agreed with daleks vs star wars universe. Honestly daleks are overpowered big time as is the doctor who universe as a whole and thsts why i love it so much. The reapers from mass effect a race that is presented as god like for example woukd be battered by daleks. The doctor who universe is arguably the most insane power wise.

[@slateoffate9812]

If the main Dalek Empire in the 13th Doctor era were redesigned to be based on the Recon Scout/Security Drone Daleks, what do you think the color coded hierarchy would be?

[@RedRory19]

If you do cover more fan made Daleks stories and other fan made Dalek Content, I may have something that might interest you, but it is something I’ve been trying to work on for years, but have never actually been able to bring it to life…

[@slateoffate9812]

What's your favorite Dalek drone design in the series, both Classic and Otherwise?

[@TobySmith-wk9bf]

Question, are there ever an official answer, what happened to the design Daleks tardis in Cannon, like that they just forget about or something else what do you think happened?

[@AnubisX1]

Oh also do you think when the daleks return. would you like to see a story that has the daleks win for change and I mean properly win, for example the doctor trying to free an dalek occupied planet an failing, which then could be a season arc of the doctor trying to undo that dalek victory.

[@michaelclark3174]

Which doctor and which companion has encountered the Daleks the most across all media?

[@greggoleggo9160]

I would prefer a completely different design to the one we have now. I know many love the bronze daleks but just a recolour or minor alteration wouldn’t be enough in my eyes to stop the daleks being too boring. I just want something different however using the death to the daleks colours is something I would love to see.

[@teddyboucher1848]

I feel like the Daleks Empire, which spans possibly millions of galaxies, could easily destroy any faction from a sci-fi series that takes place in only 1 galaxy.

[@lordferbus2970]

I'd say the only exception would be warhammer 40K The likes of the Imperium would put up a great fight But the Necrons would fair the best

[@tigertank1819]

The Daleks would demolish the 40K Galaxy like it's nothing and move onto the next.

[@lordferbus2970]

While I do personally think the Daleks can win against the flood and forerunners (depends on the Dalek faction) They really shouldn't be underestimated or downplayed, especially the flood

[@zombiedalekweck2243]

I think the most important question when thinking about Daleks versus other factions is which era you want... or which empire. Cuz you got the... First Dalek Empire, which is until First Doctor until Evil of the Daleks. These guys are the origins, so they could range from a small set of planets to a galaxy dominating empire. Pretty much depends. It's the only time the Daleks could risk getting destroyed quite easily, since in numerous Doctor Who timelines, that DOES happen! It's interesting! But that's only if they're at a couple Solar systems, once they get galaxy level, it'd be a hard fought battle but probably still possibly.... Then you've got the Second Dalek Empire, which is 3rd to early 7th. Basically just the First yet alot more harder. Then Renegades and Imperials, which is 7th to 8th... Would be smart to allow them to beat each other up and then swoop in to destroy the exhausted victor. Then you've got the various splinters like the Humanised Daleks, various Dalek factions from the Renegade-Imperial War and Civil War, and Restoration Empire... Then you've got Time War, which would wreck anything that isn't Time Lord level or above. So from Halo, the Precursors could probably stand a better chance. However, they're a bunch of pacifists, so they probably get stomped. So yeah... Although iconic looking, they aren't fair to place up against another faction. Then you've got the post-ones... Which... Uhhhh... Same as the Time War but watered down... Cult of Skaro or the Emperor's New Dalek Empire could be fun for a scenario though... Yeaaaaha... Alot of options... Ones which the average non-Doctor Who fan probably doesn't know.

[@greggoleggo9160]

The actual paradigm (not the silly ones from asylum that are all bronze) would be op also aren’t the 60s ones not the very first as the ones in genesis are the 70s grey ones. They would be around the same strength pretty much but the 60s would have the edge as they have more attachments and quite a few time machines and even their own tardises.

[@zombiedalekweck2243]

@greggoleggo9160 We don't know. One of the theories is that the 60s Daleks simply ditched those more complex, bulkier designs in favour of simpler designs to survive being stuck in their bunker. So... For example... 70's to 60's to 70's again. This does make sense since the 70s design is likely mainly known only by Davros, and you'd probably need a decent manufacturing system. Which the 60's Daleks probably wouldn't have the latter and they didn't have the earlier so it was probably best to opt for more power efficient simpler designs.

[@greggoleggo9160]

@@zombiedalekweck2243 I guess but they still have multiple different time travel machines including two separate tardises. Also they have the large array of manipulator arms that would require more effort to not only produce but to develop the design in the first place

[@zombiedalekweck2243]

@@greggoleggo9160 The 70's Daleks do have the same sorta stuff, presumably but again... Dalek timeline is very wishy washy

[@greggoleggo9160]

@@zombiedalekweck2243 wibbly wobbly timey wimey ball of stuff.

[@n.l.productions3587]

Here's a thinker: Could Shadowcat from X-Men phase through a Dalek? If so, could that destroy the Dalek?

[@liamgunn4722]

Another question do you think big finish should do stories that explain points in the daleks timeline where they are on the brink of destruction and have to make a come back such as after the evil of the daleks and after resurrection of the daleks would be rather interesting?

[@reeceemms1643]

Only changing a few things I similar to what I do with my Crusader Dalek design. Since the concept of it is the Daleks reorganizing their rank structure to incorporate some older casing designs but also new casing designs. Mostly only in colour though. With grey representing the Dalek drones, Special weapons Daleks, and the attack commander class.

[@ItsButterBean1020]

Can you give me the rundown on the Crusader Dalek lore

[@reeceemms1643]

@@ItsButterBean1020 Basically they are from what I call the Crusader era of Dalek history. They are also the Daleks I would use in my Dalek spin off series idea which I plan to do after I finish a film course in Uni. It's mostly just to differentiate them from the Daleks of the Time war. My idea is that the name Crusader era is the human term for a period in Dalek history that happened during the 62nd century. When the Dalek basically launched a massive crusade against several galaxies. Whilst also taking a break form invading the milky way galaxy. The main leader of the crusade is a Dalek known as the Dalek strategist supreme. A Dalek version of Thrawn from Star Wars developed from an experiment done by the Daleks to create the ultimate strategist. Basically one that analyses all battles that the Daleks fought it. Both victories and defeats. analysing the tactics used and adapting to them. Meaning that anyone who is trying to fight the Daleks will have to constantly think up new strategies as the Daleks will eventually adapt to it. The leader at this time is a Dalek emperor who I do kind of want to apply is a fully mutated Davros. Who is assisted by advisors with one of the advisors being the representative for the Dalek supreme council.

[@ItsButterBean1020]

@@reeceemms1643 Oo this is cool as hell The Davros idea specifically is a fun one that I remember was theorised during the Classic Series

[@reeceemms1643]

@@ItsButterBean1020 yeah I know. I also thought it would be interesting to see the Daleks fully mutate Davros before making him Dalek emperor.

[@THE_EXORCIST43]

This is a question for episode 3, what is the difference between the dalek time controller and the dalek time strategist?

[@liamgunn4722]

In your opinion including the show and big finish and books what is the darkest dalek story in your opinion? And is there another species from another show or medium you think could defeat the daleks?

[@badwolf66]

I don't even think all the factions from Warhammer 40K could defeat The Daleks.

[@SorakuFett]

Nah, the problem with 40k is that humanity's basic footsoldiers basically have standard rifles that are about equivalent to Dalek weapons in raw power, and that's the *weakest end of power.* 40k is absolutely stupid with power scaling, does not scale well with other universe *at all.*

[@paladinboyd1228]

Soo Daleks in 40k? I think they would be happy there.

[@tigertank1819]

The Daleks would demolished the 40K Galaxy like it's nothing then move onto the next.

[@paladinboyd1228]

@@tigertank1819 Now you got me wondering if Dalek weapons would work on Space marine armour. Would it be a one shot or take multiple?

[@anaveragenightlordsfan]

Which dalek/Davros story would you say has the perfect amount of Davros in it? Classic who had a problem with Davros appearing in every dalek story after genesis, and it wasn’t until new who did we get a full dalek story without Davros.

[@tomhibbert6486]

How can I join the discord server?

[@TheWackybrute]

Daleks vs orks

[@CadenMcinnis-pp9td]

Do you think the entire Daleks fleet during the time war this includes davros and the emporer but not the nightmare child could beat the entire 40K galaxy

[@lordferbus2970]

Well the Time War was when the Daleks were at their most powerful I'd say they'd fair really well in 40k

[@CadenMcinnis-pp9td]

True

[@badwolf66]

I only just joined your server today and my account gets hacked urghh, so if you get any strange messages from my account it isn't me.

[@nickthepick8043]

I gotta be honest, I don't particularly agree that the Empire & other factions in their respective universes can't defeat the Daleks or at the very least put the hurt on them. It largely depends on which version of the Dalek Empire we're talking about, but I think they are capable of putting the hurt on them or even defeating them.

[@cillianennis9921]

I think the Ysang Vong could be a match for the Daleks. They are the most powerful Star Wars faction. Anyway I want to ask a similar question Do you think the Shadows from Babylon 5 would be able to defeat the Daleks?

[@JeremyDuncan]

I agree about the flood, but the covenant united might stand a chance with it's scientific developments in warfare. Also, I do not believe a dalek could take a direct bow from a brute with a gravity axe. It would be close for sure.

[@AnubisX1]

Ok i have a very big question, How do you think the Daleks would fair against the imperium of man, which is as xenophobic and racist as the daleks, and no morals, from the Warhammer 40k? bearing in mind that they have Space marines, genetically engineered demigods, arm with Boltguns(rapid fire mini rocket launchers), 1 million worlds. Skyscraper Walkers called titans, which are armed to the teeth, Ships that every inch of them is armed with weapons. A crazy assortment of weapons, from the basic flashlight(lasergun), planet cracking weapons, virus bombs, the ability to create mine black holes, weapons designed to melt away the strongest of metals. Demons as a well.

[@404TVfr]

Lol nah, they'd get creamed too

[@user-jq2de1fx8k]

I think that only the tyranids, the Ctan or the Chaos gods would be a challenge to the daleks.

[@AnubisX1]

@user-jq2de1fx8k really, the imperium of man, has officially at least 1 million Worlds, a lot of these worlds are giant barracks, trillions upon trillions, upon trillions of troops. The imperium is able to hold its own so far against, the necrons, the tyranids, the eldar. Ancient more powerful species. An imperial guard troopers weapon is the lasgun on paper similar to a dalek gun, and it's classed in universe as a flashlight and one of the weakest weapons in game. Billions n Billions of tanks of various sizes. Then you have the space marines who's armour can shrug off most things. You have perpetuals that just comeback to life. I think the daleks would really struggle.

[@lordferbus2970]

I'd say that the Necrons are the best match for the Daleks Especially if we're using a unified Necron front maybe even during the war in heaven

[@lordferbus2970]

​@user-jq2de1fx8k the Daleks would just feed chaos basically Especially the likes of khorne

[@jamiebowler4693]

I genuinely think the CIS would stand a fair shot against the daleks, they’re incredibly nerfed in cannon due to palpatine running his proxy war. The CIS nearly completely defeated the republic several times creating bio weapons against the clones, building incredibly deadly droids so much that the Palps had to leak the information to the republic and sabotage separatist efforts. I think the daleks would still win overall due to their ability to time travel.

[@shadepizza4217]

Consider that the ancient flood managed to make the literal universe hostile, with graveminds taking the form of planets, the flood at that stage would be on a cosmic scale comparable to the end of the time war. Also, with swarm tactics a large number of infection forms could overwhelm the daleks leaving at least one to penetrate the casing and infect the mutant inside. If they targeted a smaller dalek patrol they could totally infect one and take on the others, and spread from there Edit- While it's mostly vague there definitely is implications that the flood HAS successfully infected Spartans before, and that there's protocols in place to deal with it, so if they can break through energy shields, titanium, techsuit and gel layers then a dalekanium casing is not out of the question.

[@ItsButterBean1020]

I think the Flood Vs Daleks really required us to specify which variant it is Time War era Daleks and “Victory of the Doctor” type ones would slam but I think the peak Flood against the other Empires would be harder, especially considering the Logic Plague, Star Roads and the fact the Daleks historically do poorly against horde tactics

[@8158bolga]

I’m sorry man, but i’m going to have to strongly disagree with the fact that the Daleks would be able to beat the Flood. Anything with a nervous system can be infected by the Flood. Just because the Daleks have shields that in no way makes them less susceptible to the Flood. A stronger argument would have been the fact that Dalek mutants are honestly smaller than even an Infection Form, so there Would be very little bio-mass for the Infection Form to infect…though with that said, if a Dalek mutant is wounded by a Combat Form, since all that is needed is physical contact or wounding for someone to be infected. Also, let us not forget that the Daleks, like any creature, be it biological or artificial intelligence, is vulnerable to the Logic Plague. If a Dalek was captured by the Flood, then driven mad by the Logic Plague, it could potentially become a threat to the Daleks. Not just the Daleks themselves but also their (and other aliens’) computer networks. Also, while I have no doubt that the Daleks would have no problems with sterilizing infected planets…if just one, or even multiple Keyminds exist then it is already past the danger point and the Daleks would have to destroy the entire galaxy to contain the outbreak. And even if the Daleks attempted to go in time and destroy the Flood before they evolved, if they are careless and the taskforce is infected…then they gain the ability to travel through time, and would be able to do what the Daleks were going to do in Evil of the Daleks: Allowing them to infect whole points of not only Dalek history but also every other alien race’s history! Attacking the Daleks at points in their own history which would cause irreparable damage, and create a cosmic war that would dwarf the Time War! And that is not even close to the damage that the Flood could do if they gained access to the Dalek path-web! They could create false data and delete knowledge about the Flood’s weaknesses to create confusion and panic! The best chance the Daleks have for beating the Flood is if the parasite is confined to one (maybe 5) planet/s and they quickly destroy those planets, and become so mortified by the Flood that they develop safety measures in case another outbreak occurs…but if the Daleks don’t do that, and allow their arrogance and overconfidence overtake any rationality (which they are prone to do), then the Flood will destroy them! I’m not saying that your opinion is wrong or anything like that. In the right circumstances one can defeat the Flood, but they must be willing to make huge sacrifices, but especially smart about it I wish this was not just a quick “Yep! The Daleks would own the Flood!” ‘cause its a very simple and anti-climatic response to such an interesting scenario. I would love to see you and HiddenXperia discuss this topic and come up with various scenarios and conflicts.

[@dalekbumps]

The Flood can't infect Daleks for the same reason they can't infect Spartans, not only are they a partially cybernetic life form but they also have strong energy shields that burn any flesh that comes near it, so the Flood wouldn't really stand a chance

[@RowZilla42]

OK beware I'm not trying to be rude here when I say this, I can tell you're not as familiar with the expanded lore of Halo as you are with Doctor who, because both the flood and the forerunners would be more of a problem than you think. . Now let's start with a flood, a lot of people tend to look at what they're capable of doing in the games and miss out on the actual horror from the books because in the books, the flood aren't just able to infect organic organisms they're also capable of infecting synthetic constructs such as machines and AI through both physical means and corrupted data infested with a logic plague that will wear down over time and convert them to their side, and the only reason the infections out of the games were even stoppable was due to the fact that flood was in the early stages of its infection, if it had been allowed to go further than what was seen in the games it could have started to affect the very space-time around itself to its own benefit, because they did do that during the forerunner flood war. However beware I'm not saying the Daleks would be slaughtered, to be Frank there's one of the few Sci-Fi species that could not only hold the line but actually go bloat for blow with it, and the war would really be decided not by who could adapt to the other faster. . And when it comes to the forerunners honestly technology wise at their peak they were at least as powerful as the time lords if not more so depending on how you interpret it, and I say this because in the lore it is said that their power generators were designed to generate alternate realities and then consume them and all of their potential energy over and over again to fuel their contracts.