What Wild Camping Gear do you REALLY Need?

[@roybarnes-thewildlifeman1855]

I've been watching these camping and gear videos for a while now. I live in Australia and most I watch come from the US and UK. Some are fantastic and some are rather dismal. There is a UK producer who, with his dog, produce some wonderful videos that are spoiled by his continuous cheesy grin and saccharine commentary. But, I've just become a huge fan of your videos mate which are well filmed, filled with great commentary with a dash of humour and realism...no gormless laughter here (as I find with that bloke with the huge black earrings!). You've got the recipe down to perfection. Well done, keep it up, and thanks!

[@daleyoutdoors]

Thanks! Appreciate it 👍

[@chrishamilton2527]

Another great post. For a battery bank I moved from my trusty Anker, which was hefty, to a NiteCore generation 2 (the outlets have contrasting colours) which is literally ½ the weight. I’ve been using it for the last 13months and is great: really holds its power. I also moved over to the same Decathlon headlamp at the same time. My Fenix HM65R which is a fab headlight just doesnt get used anymore - all in an attempt to go lighter. Same had happened to much of my other gear: I’m discovering that a lot of budget gear is perfect - look at the Des Catty alcohol stove at 23 gms and under £10 including postage. My £150 jet boil hasn’t been used for over a year now. I could go on and on & it’s thanks to you and others doing similar, that I’ve become aware of alternatives. Thank you for the reviews - love them.

[@clear_gray_sky539]

It’s so relaxing to watch people camp in the uk . Here in america we have to carry our ar15’s to fight off bears alligators and rattlesnakes

[@GazBobTalks]

Wow yeah, other people is the main threat here eh.

[@audreythomson-love2]

I'd just like to say thank with you've video i managed to get a load of camping gear for a family of 6 under £150 for everything .you're video are so helpfull i just hope everyone can appreciate what you're telling and helping all us new camper's

[@daleyoutdoors]

That is awesome! So glad it was useful 👍

[@robertfreeman6082]

Another place to get gear is Freecycle where you may be able to pick up camping bits and pieces. Also it’s a nice way to give away old camping gear you no longer used

[@outdoorslifesurvivecraft5078]

I do like that you're not trying to tell people that they have to have high end gear to start out like some of the other people do!! No, you don't need any gear to go camping, but that's more for the harder survivalists and bushcrafters. Don't pay it any of your time. Some in our community for some reason really take issue with backpackers when they talk minimalist and ultra lite. It's crazy!

[@MyScottyboy1]

After spending a fortune on backpacks, my go-to favourite day-pack is a £5.99 10L Mountainwarehouse special! Light as a feather.

[@wr1120]

2:26 now that was a genuine pop up tent!

[@nathankent8945]

Cobb, Breadcake, Roll, Barm??? That was definitely a BAP!! 🤣👍

[@daleyoutdoors]

Damn it! I knew I’d forgotten one! 🤦‍♂️😆

[@kennethwilson8633]

Add a cheap pair of binoculars and you have your entertainment too between wildlife and night sky. Have fun stay safe.

[@Useaname]

Or the nearest lady camper

[@mickp3526]

Did my first stealth camp 2 weeks ago got to have a brew but as light as possible at seventy I can’t carry loads also forgot a pillow ended up using bin bag with grass in it. Need pillow!

[@robertleslie2467]

I'm a fly fisherman and like to simply car camp at my fishing destinations. I might have to hike some distance from where my car is parked but its usually not very far and thus I can have all the comforts of home like a warm meal using either a Svea 123 camp stove or a Coleman 533. Even use my small cast iron pans with them. Sometimes but not often I'll just sleep in my Subaru Outback but mostly I bring a small tent. Having a small camp table and a chair is also a nice luxury. All carried in the vehicle of course. As per your video flick, very well done and minimalist. Even with car camping I try still to not bring unnecessary items that won't be used. Just more stuff to sort through to get what you really need. Again, ver well done video flick!

[@NeilHorner]

Really interesting , just slowly gearing up for my first wild camp ... useful insight !

[@daleyoutdoors]

Glad it was helpful! 👍

[@Curlew-Corner]

Another honest and informative film Ben full of sensible advice. You found a nice spot too.

[@daleyoutdoors]

Thanks Emma 😊 Yes I’m very lucky to be able to camp there.

[@thewildcampolians]

I moved from a NatureHike inflatable pillow (which was fine) to the Thermarest compressible pillow. Never looking back! You'll have a great sleep on that.

[@craig3401]

Think I've said it before you can get by with a lot less gear and cheaper gear at this time of year it's when your start venturing up onto the fells in more unpredictable weather then you definitely need a step up in the amount of gear and the quality and then the price tends to increase.but also when your only walking an hour from home why not take a little camping chair a stove maybe a steak and all those extras that make it more enjoyable.but as for just start yes this is a good example of what basics you need.also a good attitude to leaving no trace and not been a knob setting fires and having big groups just having a party

[@daleyoutdoors]

Cheers Craig, yes I think if I was just starting out a pillow, stove, then chair would be my next buys 👍

[@simonward4520]

I have bought expensive stuff like jet boil, now gathering just with all my other gear, I use a £20 stove from amazon, sits close to floor with a tail to has canister. Much safer in my view. Does not always have to be expensive. My recommendation for a pillow and I have a few is one from mountain warehouse. Cheap but best I have, its not a blow up, foam type you compress, £5 I think.

[@daleyoutdoors]

Cheers Simon, I’ll have a look at that 👍

[@allsorts-]

I'm a fan of those pillows, slightly more space required but completely worth it for a better sleep and a un-sore neck!

[@georgiamiller6539]

Good advice, thinking of buying my first backpack from MW, any ideas. Osprey seem to be on a good sale. TIA

[@simonward4520]

@Georgia Miller I have a osprey and would not be without it, used to have OEX one that broke my back. Be careful as there are may and female versions of same rucksack, look identical !

[@georgiamiller6539]

@@simonward4520 Thanks!, any size options from a 1 day- 7 days hike? The options on MW are a bit overwhelming.

[@thewildones436]

Grizzly Gaz sent me. Very helpful and informative video, just liked and subscribed.

[@daleyoutdoors]

Welcome aboard 👍

[@mohsenmisdeeds6886]

I have the same rucksack, purchased a year ago with intentions of wild camping once I purchased more gear over time. I appreciate it's a 36L pack so have been utterly consumed by what type of gear I could fit in and what I needed to get started. Thank you for showing me what the pack is capable of holding.

[@daleyoutdoors]

No problem. Glad it was useful. I found it very comfortable as well 👍

[@sortedoutdoors]

Great advice for newbies 👍 had to laugh at the drink review 🤣🤣 class

[@daleyoutdoors]

😆

[@outdooradventuresdave]

Hi daley hope you safe and well I did tge same took bit to much gear just come back from anglesay I've got the portal outdoor apus 2 tent was ok but bad for condensation had to leave zippers open about foot apart weren't as bad then tent be ok for day trips . I recently just bought the forceaatt 1 to 2 person tent up to 3 to 4 season I love it gonna be my main tent from now on . I ve not little set up always keep looking round hoping to do coast to coast soon have you done it .look forward to hearing from you soon from sheffield I just

[@daleyoutdoors]

Thanks for watching mate. I haven’t done any long hikes yet. I’m working up to it 👍

[@morgulblade4]

Good cheap stove option for newbies is the bcb fire dragon with the gel like fuel. I even carry one just on a day out in a brew kit. Nothing like a hot brew to raise the spirits and just sit back and enjoy.

[@daleyoutdoors]

Yes the BCBs are great. I use one in most camps - just not this one 😆 Thanks for watching mate 👍 Ben

[@morgulblade4]

@@daleyoutdoors No probs fella.

[@GrizzlyGaz]

Good job I'm subscribed. Don't want my tent pegs snapping!!! 🤣

[@daleyoutdoors]

Fiverr FTW! 🤣

[@tonyhill4984]

Good back to the basics vid Ben, nice one mate.

[@daleyoutdoors]

Thanks Tony 👍

[@rialobran]

My go to pack is my Mountain Whorehouse 50L, 4 years old now and going strong, less than £50 if memory serves. In fact aside from my Hilleberg Akto I don't think anything I take out costs more than £50.

[@georgiamiller6539]

I'm so happy for this review and MW I'm a newbie hiker and want stay on a budget. Any ideas (backpack, utensils, gloves etc) you have from MW is much appreciated 👍

[@geocoupe8144]

Sweet chili sensations or a few bags of space raiders for me on a camp 😂 my pillow setup is now a trekology with a buff cover (cheers for that tip!) and a cheap go outdoors flannel pillow, pretty comfy and doesnt take up too much space

[@benhikescamps]

Good idea bringing sarnies. I might try that one. When you think of it, we don’t half take loads of gubbins on these camps we do. Good video Mr D. Thanks for podcast plug 👍😎

[@daleyoutdoors]

We sure do 😆 cheers mate 👍

[@justinsaint6786]

Nice video Ben. You can't beat salt & vinager McCoys, and i'd have definitely put some in my COB. The outro was 😂😂😂

[@broadlander1398]

Thoroughly enjoyed the open and honest video and have subscribed as a result. Keep up the good work, regards Broadlander

[@daleyoutdoors]

Welcome aboard! 👍

[@terrypatterson1481]

I have just purchased the Night Cat sleeping mat with built in pillow and lantern £34.99 I have two other sleeping mats. I'm a side sleeper and need comfort for my hips because of arthritis. I found I didn't get a comfortable nights sleep with the others so I'll let you know how this one fairs - You can pump it up by hand but I have a Flexi-gear pump which saves you the effort. I spent just short of £50 on the Aldi Aventuridge 2man tent. That makes 3 tents that I have now. Slowly building up my camping gear. I took my Tamar 2 which I love and it stood up quite well in some high wind conditions. plenty room- easy to assemble. The door in the rain being the only issue. Vestibule space good. it has enough pockets on both sides and a hook to hang your lantern. It is an outer pitch first but the inner doesn't take long to attach. I did use another tarp underneath to keep the footprint clean. I took two gas stoves and my Trangia burner. My three season tent was still cold even with a sleeping bag liner. I had to keep my thermal socks and down jacket on. I had a snood that doubled up as a hat. Most of my meals were packet and bought cheaply from Home bargains. Everything fitted neatly into my £30.00 Go Outdoors Nepal 65.

[@daleyoutdoors]

I used a Tamar tent on a recent video. Really liked it, especially for the price 👍

[@terrypatterson1481]

@@daleyoutdoors Not a bad bit of Kit for what i paid for it £42 .99- normally £60.

[@danny_dainton]

Great video! The drink review had my laughing...🤣😂

[@daleyoutdoors]

It’s gotta be done 😆

[@samanthaprice4537]

I love a back to basics camp! My favourite crisps are Oinks 😋

[@daleyoutdoors]

I’ve never tried those 😬

[@samanthaprice4537]

@@daleyoutdoors They are by Golden Wonder, bacon flavour maize based crisps. I buy them in a box of 36 for £13. Absolute heaven 🤤

[@ramblingracheltrailtales]

Great vid… really useful tips for newbies.

[@daleyoutdoors]

Thanks Rachel 😊 hopefully it’ll help people out 👍

[@Mickoutdoors]

Great vid Ben, I'd miss a brew in the morning tbf, crisp wise I never know what I'm buying since they changed all the colours around a few years back, when blue was salt and vinegar and green was cheese and onion but it's vice versa now, so it's a lottery what I grab 🤣🤣 also you know you've made it when Morgan Freeman is doing a voice over for you !!!

[@daleyoutdoors]

Thanks Mick! Yeah I’d ass a brew kit after a pillow 👍 More-gear Freeman 🤣

[@Mickoutdoors]

@@daleyoutdoors quality 🤣🤣

[@Rong-x2b]

What material poles do you think are best . ?

[@daleyoutdoors]

Aluminium

[@philward2196]

Adding a cheapo sit mat for 3 quid would also be a good shout

[@daleyoutdoors]

Agreed 👍

[@tourcheverybridge]

Charity Shops…..Have had some stunning bargains…. Ok I live in Newquay Cornwall and we have an abundance of them so that does help.

[@daleyoutdoors]

I’ve looked around me (Derby) but never found camping/outdoor stuff ☹️

[@lazzymclandrover4447]

Pipers, or Seabrooks crisps for the win... if you can't find blue cheese mini cheddars.

[@daleyoutdoors]

Ooh Seabrooks - good call! Ben 🤓

[@ksgonewild]

Hey lovely!!! Absolutely love this video, and it follows on from our conversation about not needing loads of expensive gear. Decathlon is fab for cheap but decent gear. Hahaha loving the Diet Coke review 😂🤣😂 “not very hoppy though” 😂🤣😂 you are a funny man!! I think you’ll love your Thermarest pillow, I’ve got one and i absolutely love it! Great vid Ben, hopefully you’ll inspire more people to give wild camping a go! 💕

[@daleyoutdoors]

Thanks Karen! Plenty more beverage reviews to come 😆

[@robs4516]

My favorite crisps are Lays sour cream and onion.

[@clearobsession3409]

Nice video, thanks for the great tips.. I was wondering if you do something special when packing a wet tent. I guess for a one night hike it won't be an issue, but what if I need the tent for another night..?

[@daleyoutdoors]

I take the inner out and pack the wet outer into dry bag 👍

[@888johnmac]

what , no morning Tea or Coffee .. i know you said back to basics , but come on there are limits .. lol

[@daleyoutdoors]

😆 that’s why I regretted not taking a stove

[@bobhead6243]

Hi Mate , Have you tried a Flextail gear mini Pump / Light , makes blowing things up so much easier , and no Mould from your Breath in the Mat ! , also many more uses .

[@daleyoutdoors]

Hi Bob, no i think I’m the only person on KZbin not to try one 🤣 I use a pump sack for my main mat 👍

[@taz2392]

Going wild solo camping in Scotland, looking for a good rain coat that does not cost an arm and a leg. Any ideas?

[@daleyoutdoors]

I use a Decathlon 'Quechua' waterproof at the minute. It's been good so far.

[@mulreid]

Get yourself the nemo fillo pillow. Recommended

[@TimelordUK]

Your hair is perfect! What's the best way to go about obtaining a 'permission spot'. FRISPS are my favourite crisps. I could not camp without a brew. My little tiny stove is essential. Not fussed about hot food but I must have a brew and biscuits and chocolate. You poor thing having a Regal size twix without a brew!!!

[@daleyoutdoors]

Best way is to watch my video on how to get permission 😉

[@TimelordUK]

@@daleyoutdoors can you post me the link please?

[@daleyoutdoors]

@@TimelordUK kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmLIZWeajNeKqJI

[@DJunclepaul2nd]

I like a prawn cocktail crisp. Tesco's own in the past but they've changed! Waiting here for my Lanshan 1 to arrive. Sales on everywhere right now, spent about £400 all in, still need a sleeping bag! Is 2.2 r pad (neoair) going to be enough for 3 season? Weighed everything and looking at about 7kg but will be cutting down to get to 6kg. Many items I have already but heavy.

[@daleyoutdoors]

Difficult to say about the R rating, it really depends if you’re a warm/cold sleeper. Id say worst case pair it with a foil mat and it should be fine.

[@paulranson6046]

The tent looks good, any info about it

[@daleyoutdoors]

I’ve done a few videos with it - camps, review, comparison with the Cloud Peak and a first look - have a look on the channel.

[@AnthonyJohnson1]

Helpful video as always Ben. Definitely agree that you don’t need to break the bank to start up. Favourite crisps is a tough choice, but I’m going for Quavers as they’re still edible into old age 😆

[@daleyoutdoors]

Haha Thanks for watching Anthony, hope you’re keeping well 👍

[@stevec-b6214]

I am quite shocked you didn`t cram some crisps into your bread roll, a great survival tactic.

[@daleyoutdoors]

True! I’m ashamed of myself.

[@roydollin6816]

Great vid. Bought a second hand tent, cheap cook kit & sleep mats all for £58 so far. Looking to get torch or lamp then good to go. Used go camping often at sites though. Not been in years,looking forward to my first wild camp in a couple of weeks

[@daleyoutdoors]

Nice one Roy! Enjoy 👍

[@Disorder1889]

How did ya get on dude?

[@cdesfusa]

Just love your videos, thank you

[@daleyoutdoors]

Thanks Gerry 😊

[@BrokenBackMountains]

I think I'd have to change the stuff sack for that sleeping bag. I misread it.. Again.

[@michaeltillman886]

What's up my friend? Nice video, I just wish you could have shown the tent set up. Outside of that I think the video was really good and informative. Peace my friend!

[@daleyoutdoors]

Thanks for watching mate. I’ve got loads of other videos going over the tent in detail 👍

[@davidlittle6600]

Crisps. Salt and vinegar squares 👍. Great video mate 👌

[@daleyoutdoors]

Good call 👍 Thanks for watching David 😊

[@GazBobTalks]

I always imagine our ancestors up there laughing their heads off at us.

[@dancinbear01]

Did you seam seal the 3f UL ? I'm just wondering how it will perform in heavy rain... Regards Stephen

[@daleyoutdoors]

No need to seal this one. It’s the Lanshan Pros that need sealing.

[@dancinbear01]

@@daleyoutdoors Thanks for getting back to me... I just thought the guy out points looked a bit suspect 👍

[@daleyoutdoors]

@@dancinbear01 no worries. The guy lines connect straight to the poles.

[@theadventurousallotmenteer6582]

Thanks for the video and the useful information. Like you, there's no way my phone will keep a decent charge overnight, due to the amount of photography, network use etc.. but I do wonder with the power bank, when you charge it through mains, how long does that one charge last? Will the powerbank generally be able to then charge a few pieces of electric through 2 or maybe 3 days? Enjoying the videos, keep up the good work!

[@daleyoutdoors]

I find the Anker power banks hold charge really well. I can do 3-4 camps, weeks apart and not need to recharge it… if that helps? Thanks for watching 👍

[@theadventurousallotmenteer6582]

@@daleyoutdoors wow that lasts a lot longer than I thought, brilliant.. I think I may have to get an Anker model in that case. Thanks for the help 👍👍

[@SuperdutyExplorer]

Never heard of that bug spray but I'll have to check US for it. I haven't found a thing that works for flys, we have large horse flying that when they bite draw blood sometimes... Wisconsin USA local

[@SuperdutyExplorer]

Also if you see this, what software do you use to make your videos? I've got a go-pro but gopro quick app doesn't do what I need....

[@daleyoutdoors]

I use Final Cut Pro X

[@markbiscuit]

Hi Ben I watched yor video and I really enjoyed it 😊

[@daleyoutdoors]

Thank you 😊👍

[@BorderRambler]

I do try and only take what I need for an overnighter , but somehow the crap appears back in my bag lol I got a decent memory foam camping pillow from Decathlon 👍atb Dave

[@daleyoutdoors]

I know the feeling lol. Thanks for watching Dave! Ben

[@phil.clarke]

Erm, I thought that in certain hilly areas of the UK (well, the Peak District) that there is a legal requirement to buy a Hilleberg Soulo and use that for your first wild camp? The only flexibility is whether one buys the BL or RL.

[@daleyoutdoors]

🤫don’t tell anyone 😆

[@lukejohnson2548]

Nice video. Hula hoops plain or bbq beef every time!

[@daleyoutdoors]

OMG I haven’t had bbq beef ones for years 🤤🤤🤤

[@whimpihastarobbi5700]

Great video my friendd.. good place.. nice videoo, greeting from Indonesia🇲🇨

[@daleyoutdoors]

Thanks for watching 🤓👍

[@timec2002]

Doritos Chilli Heatwave could be a good crisp choice..!! 🥵 😂

[@jasonmaddison6148]

my favourite crisps are a multi pack .😂👍

[@daleyoutdoors]

😆

[@QuakerJones268]

Enjoyed that Ben.

[@daleyoutdoors]

Thanks Mark! Appreciate it 😊👍

[@markperry222]

A very useful video. Even people who are not beginners can be tempted to carry too much gear. One thing you forgot to mention is what the trowel is for 💩😁

[@rossontinternet]

Salt and vinegar squares or hula hoops

[@daleyoutdoors]

Seems like Squares are a popular choice!

[@davidhudson7590]

Good advice video I find diet coke abit hoppy too haha

[@steveb1972]

Buying gear can be really addictive, but I tend to try and be fairly bare bones minimal.

[@daleyoutdoors]

I’m heading more towards that way. I’ve got far too much 🤦‍♂️

[@steveb1972]

@@daleyoutdoors sigh…

[@alanlee2751]

Favourite crisps ? Hmmm , probably Seabrooks

[@daleyoutdoors]

Ooh good choice Alan! 👍

[@rangatrips]

I don't know whats worse.... carrying too much stuff or too little. I've experienced both and its equally as bad either way.

[@daleyoutdoors]

That’s true. Personally I’d rather have a bit too much I think 🤔

[@rangatrips]

@@daleyoutdoors my back strongly dissagrees lol!

[@timec2002]

Well done Twix for ensuring they now have a politically correct, plus size chocolate bar. Other chocolate bars are available, but may not be as large. 😉 With so much kit to choose from, it’s good to see you suggesting reasonably priced entry level kit that will do the job. It’s worth doing a bit of trial and error with kit on local camps, before venturing further afield.

[@shinst1681]

POSS WOULDNT HAVE CAMPED NR that dead tree to be honest great video thou

[@RootsLion]

perfectly gd inflatable pillows in pound shop jus throw a snood buff over outside

[@rondunn4336]

No-one mentions the need for toiletries, a trowel and paper at least?

[@daleyoutdoors]

Yes they do. I e done a separate video in it. There are plenty of others on here too.

[@bri197]

Braw wee vid mate 👌

[@GrizzlyGaz]

Bet you wish you had a mesh inner for that tent don't you mate! 🤣

[@daleyoutdoors]

If only 🙄

[@gbarhip]

basic cheep gear and you use an Ospray?

[@daleyoutdoors]

Yep. It was £99...

[@danhaynes3210]

Cheese and Onion McCoy's 😋

[@daleyoutdoors]

Nom

[@peterdiebel7372]

Nice, your backpack is over $250. 00, the tent is about $275.00 can. off amazon canada. Not really what I would call budget my friend. Cheers from Canada , eh.

[@mulreid]

Cheese and onion squares!

[@daleyoutdoors]

Good shout 🙌

[@SpiritDK]

kinda same gear different brands but mostly the same with one big exception i will never go camping without a Burnaid gel spray

[@lesleystrahan4665]

Oohhh! Cheese & onion Frisps...mmmmmm.

[@daleyoutdoors]

Nice! 🙌

[@GrizzlyGaz]

It's a T-cake!!!! 😜

[@daleyoutdoors]

Tea cakes are for toasting and lathering with butter.

[@BurtonOutdoors]

I'd like to see a review of Pepsi Max, it's got a significant bouquet and a sweet taste 0% too 😁

[@daleyoutdoors]

Sounds nice! I’ll try one next time 😆

[@BurtonOutdoors]

@@daleyoutdoors 😉 Good viddy by the way 👍

[@nialloutdoors]

You're subtle jokes are hilarious, loved the brew review, so many pretentious channels out there that take beers way too seriously 😆 I hope Londoner Outdoors appreciates the plug for his new podcast 😉 Good video for a smile on a gloomy Saturday evening 👍👌🙂

[@daleyoutdoors]

Cheers Niall 👍 life’s too short to take it too seriously 😆

[@OutdoorFreedomDk]

12 hours camping, then you dont need much food fire wood or clochtin .

[@ProcyonAlpha]

"king size too sexist" 🤣🤣

[@RootsLion]

an tbh theres more food ina std size can b beans n soz or watever n cans even like ravioli way cheaper f wat u get

[@daleyoutdoors]

I didn’t take a stove

[@johnkelly6612]

your acting sa if your out in aussie land

[@daleyoutdoors]

I wish.

[@TwoShot.]

First!!

[@daleyoutdoors]

BOOM! 🙌🥇

[@TheUpsetter]

This guy looks like he works in the job centre and loves nothing better than sanctioning single mothers an old age folk with disabilities.

[@daleyoutdoors]

Thanks for watching 😘

[@benhikescamps]

I think Mr Von Dagger had a bad night’s sleep wild camping @DaleyOutdoors. Happens to us all. 😂

[@daleyoutdoors]

@@benhikescamps it does when I’m on the Exped 🤣

[@TheUpsetter]

@@benhikescamps Sorry didn't mean to insult your boyfriend what's it like being bum chums do you have to get a big double sleeping bag?

[@standingbear998]

this new term being used for drama, wild camping, is a joke.

[@daleyoutdoors]

New term?

[@benhikescamps]

Nearly 300 viewers for this video and 8000 subscribers seem to quite like this drama. Great vid Ben!

[@psps6623]

"Twix They/Them-Royal-Excellency-Sized"

[@RootsLion]

@daley oudoors them look what we found meals.. website dead fb page dead n other than bolognaise one in waitrose cant find the others at a sensible price think that companys dead n gone

[@daleyoutdoors]

I’d need a stove to warm those up though