the us probably could of won if it weren't for the trolls. It would be cool to see a similar set up but with medieval units charging the bridges and a smaller individual force to guard each bridge
@toupac31952 жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert!!!! 😡🤪
@northernranger0122 жыл бұрын
exactly what i was thinking
@Thomastownus05172 жыл бұрын
The moving shotgun should be on guard mode
@browneartistry98352 жыл бұрын
The trolls carried the zombies to victory, without them the US still would have lost due to the shear number of zombies, but it would have been way closer of a battle.
@SRMal87232 жыл бұрын
Most likely not. The bodypiles at the main bridge would have let more and more zombies connect over time.
@MLundy982 жыл бұрын
Those shotgunners on the other bridge nearly lost it to the trolls but pushed them back and reclaimed the bridge, then held onto it until everyone else lost their positions. Bravo to them. And just an eyeballing of them it seemed once they retook it, they lost little to none defending until they were flanked.
@Rosivok2 жыл бұрын
The damage on the thompsons and shotguns needs to be raised to at least the level of a roman with a sword, the fire rate needs to double, and the shermans need their machineguns, at least two if not all three of them. also the shermans need to have twice the fire rate that they have, one shot every 4 seconds.
@oOFoof-wo1vd2 жыл бұрын
The shot gunners are useless in ranged vs ranged battles in most battles they just get cut down immediately
@cooleyfitness132 жыл бұрын
What about 1 free roaming super tank
@inquisitorialcandidate-12372 жыл бұрын
That would make the entire WW2 faction untouchable which would render them unusable in battles. The shotgun and kar98 do need a damage buff, and thompson could have a slightly better RoF and dmg. Not sure about the shermans changes though, I think it would need direct dev intervention because it changes up a lot of mechanics (no unit has 2 weapons so far) and given how much they're working on (they want to double the units and maps currently in game), they wouldn't spend time to change a single unit, and I don't want them to. Daley has a lot of other more accurate WW2 sim videos, you should check them out if you want more realism :)
@marynewport52222 жыл бұрын
Just like be thankful
@enriquegarrido15802 жыл бұрын
@@oOFoof-wo1vd no
@dichterausversehen69852 жыл бұрын
Having a part of the defending army on attack mode was super fun. It keeps the fight way more dynamic. And also having the trolls as some kind of hero-zombie was very nice. It gives some personality to the faceless swarm.
@xenotypos2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's more fun, but when they attacked they scattered and at this point it was clear they would lose. An army with defensive units-only would win. Even if it would only be garanteed without trolls imho.
@dichterausversehen69852 жыл бұрын
@@xenotypos In general I agree with you. But in this case i feel like the offensive units holding the second bridge was very important.
@zainabsaad93872 жыл бұрын
@@xenotypos I generally agree with u my guy
@charliedolengewicz24002 жыл бұрын
You didn’t account for a lot sleep deprivation starvation zombies don’t have those issues
@majorkalashinikov12772 жыл бұрын
The downfall of the battle for the US was when the right wing got too overstreched and eventually died, making trolls and zombies pour in and destroy the scattered defenses. Also when the main bridge defense got so many kills that the body pile created a bridge over the river for the zombies to cross.
@speedy012472 жыл бұрын
This, had those units instead defended the right flank they could have held.
@scribeasriel28572 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@sanderdas94012 жыл бұрын
@@speedy01247 the zombies would probably break through the center anyway because the body pile creates a bridge
@johnsmith89062 жыл бұрын
The right wing will always be the downfall for the US.
@isisi65792 жыл бұрын
I think it wasn’t over-stretching that got the right flank but at the bridge thanks to the buildings American fire was separated leading to their defeat the Ai should have been less greedy on their approach or noted the problem and pushed forth. “That zombie bridge” also wrecked the Americans because now the zombies could take cover from Sherman and extra definitely not all but extra Thompson fire.
@Grumbo912 жыл бұрын
Dynamic fun battle. One thing I would suggest is I think a timelapse of defenses slowly getting overrun would be more interesting than some of the ones you chose. Focusing on the static rooftop fighters when the other flank was being overrun and missing that collapse entirely was an odd choice.
@creedrichards1372 жыл бұрын
In the future, you need to emphasize the static flanks more, and perhaps have a final reserve in the rear. With so many zombies and body piles negating fixed defensive emplacements (and blocking ranged weapons). I think you need to separate your forces in two; the meat shields and the final redoubt in the hills.
@pierrecurie2 жыл бұрын
Defense in depth
@TheRenofox2 жыл бұрын
My favorite battle thus far! The stations and chokepoints made the terrain interesting, and the attacking shotgunners made the whole thing more dynamic and surprising. I doubt the military would have survived nearly that far if they hadn't pushed through to the side bridges like that!
@orangegalen2 жыл бұрын
Might've gone better if you'd had one Sherman on the bridge, two providing support fire from higher elevation, and maybe have a Sherman on each flank attacking with the shotgunners. It was really the trolls and then the body pile(s) hindering line of fire that brought the U.S. down. "We killed so many we couldn't see the rest of them!"
@xzeratarx2 жыл бұрын
I had a feeling the body piles were going to be the ultimate undoing for the US. With so many zombies, they'd make their own bridges and the tactical advantage of the defenders would be gone.
@awesumness152 жыл бұрын
I wish you added more shermans to compensate for the number of trolls
@NJHamilton302 жыл бұрын
Loved this video! Absolutely LOVED IT! The surprise entrance of the Trolls was a thrill! You having the units of shotgunners working as counter-offensive really helped out! I think a mix of mobile defenders and a mystery attacker is going to make these battles MUCH more dynamic and memorable 😊
@phongthepro34482 жыл бұрын
Hehehehehehe
@SupComRaiden22 жыл бұрын
The piles are the reason why you want everything on assault. the bit of spreading out they do in order to fire makes things easier.
@inquisitorialcandidate-12372 жыл бұрын
The piles helped the zombies a little, but it the flank which completely destroyed the US. If the main bridge would be set to assualt, they would eventually push out (unlike the left flank, which couldn't because they had less support) and get surrounded after overextending, like the right flank.
@jjb2004mk22 жыл бұрын
If an army assaults into a horde of Zomebies then it spreads out in all directions until the line is too thin and the zombies overwhelm it.
@xenotypos2 жыл бұрын
The assault is obviously the main reason they lost. Firepower is everything in this game, since they're no friendly fire. A static concentrated mass is just 100x more powerful. That's actually why the first assault team on that second bridge did so well: they (mostly) stopped moving, overall I mean. And concentrated their fire, by some miracle.
@Alfawolfehunter2 жыл бұрын
I would really like to see, if you do this again, a main force on each bridge! If it's supposed to be a bridge defense then each bridge should be defended. So the zombies have to work for the flank. They were spread to thin over all the bridges on this map to give a accurate fight. Great video as always! Love your content!
@oblivionpb79522 жыл бұрын
This video was one of the most interesting UEBS 2 videos you have made
@AidanS992 жыл бұрын
I really think that the Army could’ve won if there were no trolls mixed in. And maybe if more troops were added to the right side attacking force. They did not have enough troops to defend all of those bridges to the right, where as the left all focused on one bridge and probably could’ve kept them at bay if they weren’t surrounded at the end.
@matthewfriedewald85512 жыл бұрын
The Trolls were to much of a force multiplier for the troopers to overcome... fun video to watch brother, thank you
@jamieb68142 жыл бұрын
You should do free for all: god archer, German sniper,god tank,super spartan, Tesla guy I forgot his name (Tesla guy) ,chunk Norris ,German light machine gun?,and any unit of your choice
@АлексейЛукашов-т7г2 жыл бұрын
8:00 - идея с троллями издалека - оч крутая))) солдаты закрепились) а те пришли их разносить)) норм 20:00 всё было круто) но солдат было мало и зря ты их послал в разные стороны + не показал как сдали левый мост ( было бы интересно глянуть)
@benanddadmechanical65732 жыл бұрын
So I think a lot of these things miss one thing. Tanks can probably crush more zombies under their tracks than they would ever have ammunition to shoot.
@purplestar42142 жыл бұрын
“A cornered animal is almost as dangerous as a wounded one.” -Cameron Dokey
@xenotypos2 жыл бұрын
I didn't believe it was possible as soon as I saw the shootgunners running towards the zombies. No chance to win at at all, despite the ones on bridge2 doing surprisingly well (because they stopped moving, actually), it was kind of a miracle honestly. No troll + static units would probably be a win. If the units are well placed.
@manny51402 жыл бұрын
I don't even know how I didn't know of the existence of these simulators, but you have made me be completely glued to the screen for the last 4 hours. For this battle I knew it was doomed pretty early on, the rate of losses for US was already proportionally higher and then the trolls appeared... RIP. lol love these good job bro
@endunamoo2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the Trolls broke the defense. No trolls, us wins
@JustAnotherRandomPersonOnline2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the same setup with only zombies (5 million) and then the same setup with only 2,000 trolls. I am curious (with the way the body piles were) if it would end up being closer, but still a US loss with only the zombies.
@NowLoading2472 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of defending troops with some assaulting troops. Also tanks vs catapults!!
@Sido75282 жыл бұрын
3:16 shoutout to your dog and that squeekie toy in the background haha
@RedneckRapture2 жыл бұрын
This looks familiar. Same map, I had the US Army hold with just 2,000 against 5 million zombies. You put shotgunners defending on the bridge itself, with riflemen overlooking them on the shore, and then tanks on either side of them along the river bank. Result I got was not one casualty among the US forces.
@KirbyZhang2 жыл бұрын
what about the other bridges, and the body piles?
@RedneckRapture2 жыл бұрын
@@KirbyZhang The zombies were killed on the far side of the bridges when I did it. The piles were tall, but the piles also didn't extend far onto the bridges. I haven't tried it with the most recent updates though, my version was before nukes got introduced.
@LifesGuardian2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the zombie's numbers were just too big. Trolls helped to soften the U.S. forces, but ultimately I don't think they really mattered. Once the body piles began to form secondary and tertiary bridges where the U.S. forces were weaker, it was over. It certainly didn't help that a huge portion of the U.S. shotgunners went and suicided themselves by taking additional bridges. The first group, sure, they did good. However, the second push on the "right" side shouldn't have happened. Once the first push were routed that plan should've been aborted and shotgunners should've stayed put and ran interference for the SMG gunners. Even then, the zombies numbers still would've overwhelmed them eventually, but it might've delayed the end a bit longer.
@pierrecurie2 жыл бұрын
Holding chokepoints is important, so the initial rush for bridges is right. However, it was dumb to charge across the bridge and die.
@LifesGuardian2 жыл бұрын
@@pierrecurie The first bridge and the second, sure. When they went for the third though they opened themselves up for flanking on the fourth which was very close by. Could've worked if they'd taken both at the same time, but failing and trying again cost them most of their shotgunners. I agree, crossing the bridges and fighting on the other side was dumb, but it didn't cost as many lives as failing to take the third bridge twice.
@davidmullins19052 жыл бұрын
@@LifesGuardian Someone in the comments said they used 2,000 USA troops vs 5 million zombies. They said they put shotgunners on hold with the rifleman behind them. Supposedly the USA won.
@LifesGuardian2 жыл бұрын
@@davidmullins1905 That's interesting. Same starting positions too?
@joshc58392 жыл бұрын
Hey man I made a custom coax Sherman that’s pretty balanced on battle like these if want the stats lemme know. Good for flank defense. A little tired of plain Sherman’s without using the coax gun
@zach15k202 жыл бұрын
Idea: Do 1 Spartan vs 5 zombies, if the spartan completes that task increase the zombies by 5 and see how far he can get
@slochmiller2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video. I wanted to compliment you on your narration of the battles. They are both informative and entertaining. I would love to see a few training videos or tutorials if that’s possible. Thank you so much again for a lot of good entertainment.
@RW1LD Жыл бұрын
these major choke point hour glass shape battles are awesome. The trolls were a nice touch to balance it back and forth.
@sonnyb76122 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine these million plus zombie hordes are coming from cities and army units are trying to take out as many as they can before the horde takes over more towns.
@ledanoir12392 жыл бұрын
putting trolls with the zombies was a fun idea
@Moredread252 жыл бұрын
I would love to see 2 million zombies fighting up a mountain road against a mix of WW2 ranged troops.
@hallrobk2 жыл бұрын
Suggestion.. same/similar bridge defense.. add some snipers (not to uber, but like 800 range-ish, + more damage per shot).. BUT make ALL the attackers TROLLS, plus some MEGA TROLLS (25,000 health, and buffed stats like attack speed). Maybe 20-30 tanks in defense.. and a mix of attack w/shotgunners like you did, plus guard with some, and hold with most.
@HaloJumper72 жыл бұрын
Next time no trolls, secure all bridges with more shermans, lets watch those zombies cover the river with their bodies.
@mathbydaygamerbynight81762 жыл бұрын
the one shot-gunner that ran across the bridge deserves an award
@cephalonplant40872 жыл бұрын
He was given an honorable death worthy of Valhalla
@StupidMorty_2 жыл бұрын
You should do 200,000 xenomorphs vs the entire us milltary
@innertubez2 жыл бұрын
I just discovered these battle simulations. Thanks! They're so fun. If possible I think spreading out 4 Sherman tanks (2 on the main bridge and one to advance on each flank) might help. Also, it looks like 2.5 millions zombies was the tipping point. The US forces collapsed after that. So maybe 30,000 US troops are needed, or maybe 20,000 but positioned differently. Anyway, thanks again.
@afluffywhitekitty85892 жыл бұрын
Personally I'd like to see more of you controlling individual units in particular advantageous situations
@enriquegarrido15802 жыл бұрын
agreed
@midnightexe72482 жыл бұрын
Zombies are never to be underestimated, the bigger the swarm, the more dangerous these ravenous and mindless zombies are
@colincurran24802 жыл бұрын
My favourite video to date! That body pile over the bridge was insane
@TB.1672 жыл бұрын
I loved the ending the way it looked 65 troops fireing into millions of zombies with no hope looked great
@Jamie_D2 жыл бұрын
I actually think it's good they glitch themselves up, otherwise it's unfair as there aren't any genuine ways to get up, so if they patch it then they also need to make it so troops can't stand up in those spots, as they aren't going to edit maps to add stairs at this point.
@Lucas_Antar2 жыл бұрын
Would a zombie be able to glitch its way up or would the people on the roof be safe. Advantages aren’t unfair.
@ScottieMacF2 жыл бұрын
@@Lucas_Antar the soldiers got up there somehow. Must be stairs.
@MrZyLeXx2 жыл бұрын
@@ScottieMacF dropped by helicopter lol
@TorstenAdair2 жыл бұрын
Eventually they would pile up and make a ramp.
@Jamie_D2 жыл бұрын
@@Lucas_Antar a building would have stairs climb which these don't, which is my point
@covercalls882 жыл бұрын
I have seen a few bridge battles and when there are millions of zombies as they die they are able to form body bridges. To limit it you set up the forces to kill not front line, but in the rear of the zombies.
@markpowers72142 жыл бұрын
Persians vs. Ducks, Chickens, and Mantis Shrimp
@vsgfilmgroup2 жыл бұрын
6:09 Yes sir, we DID have one lone shotgunner decide to rush the zombie line. Well, that's Sergeant Moronski, sir. We're all kind of worried about him.
@paultruesdale76802 жыл бұрын
It would be cool to reenact the British square, no troopers shooting through each other. First line fires, reloads the kneeler’s fire and so on. Maybe have the cavalry charge through the Zombies taking off heads. Great video’s loads of fun! 👍
@Jamie_D2 жыл бұрын
Here's some info for if you want to try and create more close/more even battles, the following units are ranked in this order (based on a round robin tournament i did of 1mil of each of the units: 1. Spartan (5/5 Wins/Battles) 2. Roman (4/5 Wins/Battles) 3. Egyptian Spearmen (3/5 Wins/Battles) 4. Egyptian Warrior (2/5 Wins/Battles) 5. Footman (1/5 Wins/Battles) 6. Persian (0/5 Wins/Battles)
@germankid8662 жыл бұрын
How about a before and after pic of certain spots on the map? Those body piles are insane
@Cesly-mo3uf2 жыл бұрын
I think it would be awesome if the river would eventually turn red from all the bodies falling into it. I have no idea why this is so entertaining!
@DBRAD69822 жыл бұрын
First did you see Markiplier posted an Epic battle simulator 2 vid and also some ideas (sorry if you have done them) 1. in the total war games there are historical battles you could do a playthrough and talk tactics and possible historical context. 2. Using total wars custom battle set up do some difficult seiges either attacking or defending. 3. Show some of the more funny warriors in Epic battle simulator 2 . Like do a massive battle between all the animals. 4. Set up some ranged hero units on top of towers and ro the body pile one the rower rather than the wall.
@Killacam_13192 жыл бұрын
Speaking of total war he should play total war empire and make every faction against each other
@blastoff20302 жыл бұрын
21:26 I mean, when you throw 40K against 5 million and they take out half of this number, we can give them a prize
@midnightexe72482 жыл бұрын
Battles like this are just absolute blood baths
@gamorean49032 жыл бұрын
The bodies sliding down the hill during the time lapse made my day
@mattlangford76512 жыл бұрын
16:37 you can see that the zombie bodies pilled up so much they made a bridge with there corpses 18:44 you cant even tell theirs a bridge there anymore
@shubashuba92092 жыл бұрын
It seems like there are two possible strategies to maximize the effectiveness of the US troops. 1) Bunch up the troops as tightly together as possible in order to minimize the cross-sectional perimeter that the zombies can attack from. 2) Send more assault troops in the beginning to take the flanking bridges asap. Having the units in the back is a waste of firepower because they were too far away to shoot at zombies. They should have been sent to the flanks with the assault team.
@shabanelingenieur42822 жыл бұрын
Je suis fan bro which app did you use to make this simulation
@oOFoof-wo1vd2 жыл бұрын
Daley just want to say I’m a huge fan, I’ve been subscribed since 2019
@Thelurpy12 жыл бұрын
Trolls are horribly unbalanced. 2,000 can turn the tide of a battle the US would have otherwise won.
@TheJestersRequiem2 жыл бұрын
Been enjoying your videos! I had high hopes for your US army, until i saw the trolls. Overkill man. Maybe 500, but 2000?! Nah man. I was hoping you'd blocaded the other bridges but sadly. I'd like to see you try smaller groups at each bridge and see what happens. Defence shotgun/smg/sniper/tank combo... if thats even possible. 100 shotguns, 250 smg, 4 snipers 2 tanks at each bridge, againt 5million zombos? Could be a cool try. Hell, one chuck norris vs as many zombos as you can spawn. Id be interested to see how big the mountain grows. None the less i'm loving your videos bud. Keep it up.
@lindseyspencer69822 жыл бұрын
Maybe have some sniper positions to overlook the long distances and a back rank that storms forward after the line of contact is established. Also smaller outpost squads for time for space type defense
@GregTheHuman14 ай бұрын
7:10 Me opens a KZbin comment section “There are about 2 thousand trolls on the battlefield”
@CatanMan2 жыл бұрын
I think it would be interesting if you simulated different battles of World War II, using both vanilla and modded units with fitting terrain.
@MrGBH2 жыл бұрын
I think the main issue was that flank, needed some dedicated defenders protecting that bridge, maybe a couple Shermans. Would be nice to see the dead piles be the deciding factor
@alexdyche11392 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a fort defense against zombies with any ranged Unit where the defenders are all inside a fortified position alamo style.
@celtic22warrior362 жыл бұрын
Could you do a battle of Troy type battle with the castle map that you had attacked by romans?
@JRH62712 жыл бұрын
Subbed. These concepts are so good.
@MLBBOYZPRODZZ2 жыл бұрын
These are the best vids
@davidjeanmichel83582 жыл бұрын
this game is insane, how you can run so many dead corps and give them all a physic and not even lag, when the game support millions of units and bullets at the same time.
@christophercarlone99452 жыл бұрын
Those stragglers on the roofs must have thought "well shit, guess we ain't getting out alive"
@historicalmilitaria75992 жыл бұрын
love your vids :)
@thomasstadler8472 жыл бұрын
I have a recommendation! What about a few hero units defending the town vs. every other battle unit? BTW I really love these videos! Thank you for taking the time to make these!
@emmanuelonofrei58002 жыл бұрын
The left flank was losing to trolls at first, but as they drove deeper the full mass of soliders were able to fire on them. I feel like one sherman per bridge could have increased kill count
@paultruesdale76802 жыл бұрын
This one was a good one, I liked the trolls, it gives the zombies a strategic possibility. Maybe less zombies, there where too many left at the end!
@elainareinshell77822 жыл бұрын
Thank you dude you cheered me up after this video I calmed down I was pretty mad
@paigeallocco58452 жыл бұрын
U. S. Army: okay guys. Let’s kill some zombies! 5 seconds later… U. S. Army: oh crap we ran out if bullets! Zombies: yay. Dinner!
@spartan078ben2 жыл бұрын
Next time try this, Germans on the shoreline, Shotgunners defending the bridges, Assault troops set on the attack, and then three units of Shermans/catapults at each bridge for fire support/artillery, and one free fire unit. Also, strengthen the flanking lines.
@Time-Spiral2 жыл бұрын
i love how so many zombies died they created a bridge of bodies
@darksunrise68622 жыл бұрын
I saw the bridge, saw the numbers and immediately thought: 'nope, the zombies r just gonna build their own bridges out of the bodies of their fallen' lol, my prediction came true!
@josiahcabello99442 жыл бұрын
Hey brother love your content it would be amazing if you can leave the camera at the more strategic parts of the battle. I feel like Im missing pivotal moments. Thanks bro keep up the good work.
@toupac31952 жыл бұрын
Yeah if you did Juno beach on the other vid, I don't think there was an option for Brits sipping tea after landing. 🤔
@TorstenAdair2 жыл бұрын
Given that the US has range weapons, all they need to do is slowly retreat as zombies approach? The tanks provide covering fire. And target the trolls. Send the frontline as far forward as possible to meet the zombies. (I’d also blow the bridges, but that makes it less interesting. Or you use them as choke points, ignoring the zombies on the shoreline until they begin to walk on water.)
@danielbrown50252 жыл бұрын
Never watched a video like this but enjoyed this one!
@vizualsbynick Жыл бұрын
I would love to see this exact battle again, but with the addition of smaller defence and attack forces spread out alongside the river. So the exact set up as you have now, but add multiple defence and attack groups spread out along the river on bridges and chokepoints. I would also sprinkle in some tanks or other hardware in with these smaller groups.
@SuperHammaren2 жыл бұрын
Romeros Zombies would be a different thing :)) awesome video!!
@mista_ke2 жыл бұрын
I thought from the beginning that the US totally didnt have this. And when you said Trolls, I was almost pissed haha.
@liamstubbins30002 жыл бұрын
Good video only critique would have been nice to have some of the timelapses over where the zombies where actually going to attack the US :)
@covercalls882 жыл бұрын
To keep the zombies from building the body bridges you might try loading up with long range hitters like tanks and catapults. Hold them at the bridge, but kill them in the rear.
@Jamie_D2 жыл бұрын
Trolls are crazy OP against melee units but weak against ranged, even archers
@NastyHudson2 жыл бұрын
Idea? The box in a box(or pentagon) formation with melee units on the inside who assault zombies only when the outside missile units become overwhelmed.
@thxcomeagain95522 жыл бұрын
transition at 8:20 you can see the bodies are piling further and further across the water lol
@sonnumber87332 жыл бұрын
Hey Daley in the video you said that you were running out of ideas, I would recommend playing a game by the dev group Paradox, they have published many games like Crusader kings three, Hearts of Iron 4, and my favorite game of all time, stellaris, I know rts is more of your style and these are more grand strategy but stellaris is what I would recommend because it combines a complex economical system and allows you to order and comprise fleets of warships in real time, it’s much more complex than what I have said but I would recommend checking it out.
@kainlettern2 жыл бұрын
Multiple team free for all with multiple bridges might be fun to watch if not done already. or teams of multiple factions assaulting different bridges
@nightcerberus7772 жыл бұрын
man i cant wait to see something like this with clone troopers
@mista_ke2 жыл бұрын
You can always recommend other videos in your infocart, Daley. Makes it easy for people to watch.
@willytv30672 жыл бұрын
Nobody can hold against 5 million zombies without a stream of reinforcements after initial engagement
@willytv30672 жыл бұрын
I recommend having forces a long way off on a big map to give the battle more momentum for the defenders as they come in later in the battle
@brotherkhrayn35252 жыл бұрын
Yeah, as soon as the trolls came up I was like “wait a minute… those are some big zombies…”
@marcw.48702 жыл бұрын
The main causality on these scenarios will always be the eardrums of the soldiers.